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Hi BJ

I actually saved an article at one point that gave the percentages:

http://www.imhr.org/news-currentnewsletter_detail.php?nd=61

(excerpt)

In addition, about 25% to 30% of patients who begin ERP drop out of

treatment prematurely. Of those who remain in treatment, about 20% do

not respond. Thus, about half of patients with OCD who are referred

for ERP treatment will not significantly improve. Factors that affect

treatment response include insight into OCD symptoms, depression, and

family expressed emotion. Some researchers have speculated that

patients who have poor insight into the irrationality of their

obsessional fears may have difficulty learning information that is

inconsistent with their OCD beliefs. Also, patients with extreme fear

may not adhere to ERP instructions as closely as do patients with a

better understanding that their fears are senseless. Depression may

hinder patients from having the decrease in anxiety and distress that

normally occurs following extended exposure to feared stimuli and

enables a patient with OCD to eventually feel comfortable in the

presence of this stimuli and realize their obsessive doubts are

unrealistic. Lack of motivation may also accompany depression and

partially account for poor treatment outcome. Expressed emotion is

the way in which family members respond to a relative with OCD. This

includes emotional overinvolvement, hostility and perceived

criticism. Of these, the most consistent indicator of negative

treatment outcome is hostility.

But if anything does work, it seems to be ERP, so before development

of CBT/ERP there were probably many more disabled (or unrecognized)

people with ocd.

nancy grace

> >

> > Well, you can guess my thoughts, Sinead. Four weeks didn't work so

> well for my son. In fact, six months haven't helped much,

> > but he is a tough case. I hope this research is true for most

people.

> >

> >

> >

> > New study on effectiveness of ERP

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> > Hi Everyone,

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> > I know this article will interest you all.

> >

> > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> >

> >

> >

> > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

on

> this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

short

> - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

still

> struggle with it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thoughts anyone?

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread.

That is a great article - it provides an excellent summary of treatment

options. I don't think there is any doubt that ERP can be a very effective

treatment, but as several of you have pointed out it is complicated by

co-existing conditions, personality, age, and degree of insight, among other

factors. It is also an extremely slow process that is not always linear. New

stresses can wipe out months of progress. I wish that ERP was a magic bullet for

all, but the picture is so much more complicated than that.

New study on effectiveness of ERP

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I know this article will interest you all.

> >

> > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> >

> >

> >

> > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

on

> this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

short

> - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

still

> struggle with it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thoughts anyone?

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> >

> > http://www.. com/r/hs

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Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread.

That is a great article - it provides an excellent summary of treatment

options. I don't think there is any doubt that ERP can be a very effective

treatment, but as several of you have pointed out it is complicated by

co-existing conditions, personality, age, and degree of insight, among other

factors. It is also an extremely slow process that is not always linear. New

stresses can wipe out months of progress. I wish that ERP was a magic bullet for

all, but the picture is so much more complicated than that.

New study on effectiveness of ERP

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I know this article will interest you all.

> >

> > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> >

> >

> >

> > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

on

> this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

short

> - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

still

> struggle with it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thoughts anyone?

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> >

> > http://www.. com/r/hs

> >

> >

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> > > Well, you can guess my thoughts, Sinead. Four weeks didn't work so

> > well for my son. In fact, six months haven't helped much,

> > > but he is a tough case. I hope this research is true for most

> people.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New study on effectiveness of ERP

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I know this article will interest you all.

> > >

> > > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> > therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

> on

> > this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

> short

> > - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> > effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> > intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

> still

> > struggle with it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thoughts anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > >

> > > http://www.. com/r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > Well, you can guess my thoughts, Sinead. Four weeks didn't work so

> > well for my son. In fact, six months haven't helped much,

> > > but he is a tough case. I hope this research is true for most

> people.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New study on effectiveness of ERP

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I know this article will interest you all.

> > >

> > > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> > therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

> on

> > this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

> short

> > - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> > effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> > intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

> still

> > struggle with it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thoughts anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > >

> > > http://www.. com/r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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This was really interesting, Sinead. Thanks for sharing it. Whether

fast or slow, it seems the important objective is that they learn how

to apply ERP to their lives, for the rest of their lives. I know our

son's psychologist has been working with Josh to have him recognize

OCD as it pops up (new stuff or old), and use the tools of ERP that he

has learned to apply them early and nip it in the bud. I hope he is

able to do that, because what he has learned so far has been helpful.

BJ

> > >

> > > Well, you can guess my thoughts, Sinead. Four weeks didn't work so

> > well for my son. In fact, six months haven't helped much,

> > > but he is a tough case. I hope this research is true for most

> people.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New study on effectiveness of ERP

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I know this article will interest you all.

> > >

> > > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> > therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

> on

> > this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

> short

> > - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> > effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> > intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

> still

> > struggle with it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thoughts anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > >

> > > http://www.. com/r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <!--

> > >

> > > #ygrp-mkp{

> > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px

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> > > #ygrp-mkp hr{

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> > >

> > >

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> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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> ____________ __

> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > Find them fast with Search.

> > http://tools. search.. com/newsearch/ category. php?

> category=shopping

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This was really interesting, Sinead. Thanks for sharing it. Whether

fast or slow, it seems the important objective is that they learn how

to apply ERP to their lives, for the rest of their lives. I know our

son's psychologist has been working with Josh to have him recognize

OCD as it pops up (new stuff or old), and use the tools of ERP that he

has learned to apply them early and nip it in the bud. I hope he is

able to do that, because what he has learned so far has been helpful.

BJ

> > >

> > > Well, you can guess my thoughts, Sinead. Four weeks didn't work so

> > well for my son. In fact, six months haven't helped much,

> > > but he is a tough case. I hope this research is true for most

> people.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New study on effectiveness of ERP

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I know this article will interest you all.

> > >

> > > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive ERP

> > therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts

> on

> > this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

> short

> > - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> > effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> > intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

> still

> > struggle with it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thoughts anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > >

> > > http://www.. com/r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <!--

> > >

> > > #ygrp-mkp{

> > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px

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> > > #ygrp-mkp hr{

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> > 0px;}

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> > > margin-bottom: 10px;}

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> > > padding:0 0;}

> > > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{

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> > > -->

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <!--

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> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{

> > > margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;}

> > > -->

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <!--

> > >

> > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean,

> > sans-serif;}

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Hi Sinead, I usually refer to 3 of my kid as having ocd based on

level or resistance/disability, but my 13 yr daugter old has OCD

(somewhat transient spells, but obviously CD, when under greater

stress-as when she switched to independent study from private

homeschooling) and uses ERP to boss it back, so thre's little little

disruption to her lifestyle. I would not say she is happy go lucky

carefree extrovert, and some peopel seem to think she needs be

more " out there " competing or something I guess, but she does fine.

She even tried meds but decided knowing about OCD and not letting it

boss her was enough. She has good insight and motivation, so I do not

even refer to her as having OCD. So the personality " context " for the

OCD, and comorbidities, can have a significant effect.

nancy grace

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> > > Well, you can guess my thoughts, Sinead. Four weeks didn't work

so

> > well for my son. In fact, six months haven't helped much,

> > > but he is a tough case. I hope this research is true for most

> people.

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> > > New study on effectiveness of ERP

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> > > Hi Everyone,

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> > > I know this article will interest you all.

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> > > http://ucsdnews. ucsd.edu/ newsrel/health/ 01-08OCD. asp

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> > > I know a number of have children who have undergone intensive

ERP

> > therapy for OCD and I would be interested in hearing your

thoughts

> on

> > this. From our experience, the 4-week treatment seems extremely

> short

> > - it may begin to effect changes in the brain but I wonder how

> > effective it would be in the long run. Our son had four months of

> > intensive treatment and his OCD improved enormously, but he does

> still

> > struggle with it.

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