Attachments

[Guest guest]

[This message contained attachments]

[Guest guest]

Hi , You may have selected HTML format to send mail. So your message have

two parts, one as HTML format, the other as text format. Text format is attached

for

the people who can't receive HTML format. IMHO text format is preferable in

mailing

list or News group. Please check as follow. In OutlookExpress menu of tool >

option

> send > sending format for mail, choose " text format " .

Regards,

Norio

> Ken and wrote:

>

> I need some feedback please. A friend told me my e-mails are accompanied by

6k attachments that repeat the message in a small

> format. Is this how my e-mails are coming through to the group?

>

>

--

Norio Ohki Nagoya Japan

http://www.okmicro.co.jp/norio/

[Guest guest]

Your writing is very small

Cooky

> Ken and wrote:

>

> I need some feedback please. A friend told me my e-mails are

> accompanied by 6k attachments that repeat the message in a small

> format. Is this how my e-mails are coming through to the group?

>

>

[Guest guest]

This gets very confusing. The print in what you returned to me is large.

And I have no idea why all the rest is there. Some people say there is no

repetition and the print size is fine. Is it just an incompatibility

between e-mail software?

rheumatic attachments

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi !

I still see your fonts as very small, however, all I do now is click on

" view " in my Netscape and increase " my " font viewing size; works great.

If I were you I would not worry about it anymore as I believe everyone

can do the same thing I am doing to combat the problem.

Have a great day!

Judy ( " ex-Lurker " )

[Guest guest]

Because attachments slow down the list, and in some cases cause people's

computers to crash. We had a strict rule against attachments on the old

list, but people violated that rule all the time. It's one of the reasons

we moved to ONElist.

Dan Kennedy

Internet services coordinator

Little People of America, Inc.

http://www.lpaonline.org

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Frey wrote:

> From: Frey <jfrey@...>

>

> Since we have changed over to new listserve providers I have noticed that

> e-mail attachments have been removed. I was just wondering why e-mail

> attachments are removed.

>

>

> " Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans... "

> Lennon

>

> " The Kiss of an angel's wings...

> is as the touch of a butterfly kiss.. "

>

> A cheerful heart is good medicine... (Prov 17:22a)

>

> Face piles of trials with smiles, for it riles them to believe that we

> perceive the web they weave, and keep on thinking free. Haywood -

> The Moody Blues

>

>

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

A gentle reminder to those who send attachments to the list- It does not

work!!! We can't receive them, so please do not send them.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

This is your list, if you want to send attachments please do. And I

understand about viruses. And they have become treacherous of late. But I

stand corrected and take back my request. But again I say know who you are

downloaded files from.

Have a great day, laugh and love a lot, laughter is healing and loving is

good for you. LOL...

Joan in Florida

AIH, Cirrhosis, HPB

[Guest guest]

This virus stuff is scarey. Especially being a person learning my computer.

Hoewever I enjoy the stuff being sent through this group, Trouble is how do

we know when things like this happen? I assume when I see emails with this

group name on them I never consider any of them to be harmful. Is there

something that will make a computer alert me? If so where do I go to get it?

Gayle

[Guest guest]

Hi Joan,

I'm a little confused. I don't understand how 'our'

not sending attachments will prevent our group from

receiving viruses. Most viruses attach themselves to

the poor soul's address book and mail themselves. We

are at risk of getting a virus from anyone who has our

personal or group email address in their book. I

suspect this is what happened today, I don't think

this member sent the email - it sent itself. We are

more likely to open and run an attachment from people

we do know. People have to have antivirus programs

and become familiar with the differences between

hoaxes and real viruses. I sent a URL earlier which

has all the information.

Regards,

Barbara Ann

AIH Transplant Recipient

[Guest guest]

Hi Joan,

I'm a little confused. I don't understand how 'our'

not sending attachments will prevent our group from

receiving viruses. Most viruses attach themselves to

the poor soul's address book and mail themselves. We

are at risk of getting a virus from anyone who has our

personal or group email address in their book. I

suspect this is what happened today, I don't think

this member sent the email - it sent itself. We are

more likely to open and run an attachment from people

we do know. People have to have antivirus programs

and become familiar with the differences between

hoaxes and real viruses. I sent a URL earlier which

has all the information.

Regards,

Barbara Ann

AIH Transplant Recipient

[Guest guest]

Gayle,

I bought and installed Eudora Pro a few months ago. I'd been using Eudora

Light (free by download from Qualcomm) for years so thought I owed 'em some

loyalty. I'm fairly sure that it was Eudora's built in Internet virus

program that spotted the PrettyPlace virus. I was so startled to get the

warning, I deleted the e-mail and attachment immediately. I don't know if

" Light " includes a virus protection, but considering Eudora has been

installed for several months, I'm impressed that it spotted the virus

characteristics and warned me.

I received PrettyPlace with a Liver Support return address, and of course,

we don't know all of the names since many people " lurk " and never post

online. I don't know if I'd have been suspicious if I hadn't had the

Eudora warning not to open the attachment. Since my e-mail also is

downloadable from three other places, the danger from PrettyPlace was still

there. Eudora has the option to not save any mail or attachments on your

server (AT & T Worldnet, Mindspring, AOL, etc.) so I changed my option and

now only have e-mail available through Eudora.

These viruses are malicious (and so are the people who create them) and all

of us who receive e-mail are vulnerable. And, probably it will get worse,

though maybe not if there are a few successful prosecutions. Of course,

PrettyPlace apparently originated in France, so what can US courts do?

A good virus protection program and updates at least offer some

protection. Don suggested McAffee's over Norton's, and his reasoning

sounded good to me though I'm stuck with Norton's Anti-virus for now unless

I want to shell out some more money.

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

I had lots of stuff in my recycle bin, but checked it after virus warning

and found it completely empty. Is that something a virus can do?

j

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>Gayle,

>I bought and installed Eudora Pro a few months ago. I'd been using Eudora

>Light (free by download from Qualcomm) for years so thought I owed 'em some

>loyalty. I'm fairly sure that it was Eudora's built in Internet virus

>program that spotted the PrettyPlace virus. I was so startled to get the

>warning, I deleted the e-mail and attachment immediately. I don't know if

> " Light " includes a virus protection, but considering Eudora has been

>installed for several months, I'm impressed that it spotted the virus

>characteristics and warned me.

>

>I received PrettyPlace with a Liver Support return address, and of course,

>we don't know all of the names since many people " lurk " and never post

>online. I don't know if I'd have been suspicious if I hadn't had the

>Eudora warning not to open the attachment. Since my e-mail also is

>downloadable from three other places, the danger from PrettyPlace was still

>there. Eudora has the option to not save any mail or attachments on your

>server (AT & T Worldnet, Mindspring, AOL, etc.) so I changed my option and

>now only have e-mail available through Eudora.

>

>These viruses are malicious (and so are the people who create them) and all

>of us who receive e-mail are vulnerable. And, probably it will get worse,

>though maybe not if there are a few successful prosecutions. Of course,

>PrettyPlace apparently originated in France, so what can US courts do?

>

>A good virus protection program and updates at least offer some

>protection. Don suggested McAffee's over Norton's, and his reasoning

>sounded good to me though I'm stuck with Norton's Anti-virus for now unless

>I want to shell out some more money.

>

>Take care,

>Geri

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes when I reply to a message, I get announcement that it is being

sent to half dozen places other than the one I am intending to reply to.

Wonder if that has anything to do with a virus.

J

>From: Geri Spang <spangs@...>

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>Subject: Re: [ ] re:Attachments

>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:08:16 -0800

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>11 Nov 1999 10:10:56 +0000

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>Gayle,

>I bought and installed Eudora Pro a few months ago. I'd been using Eudora

>Light (free by download from Qualcomm) for years so thought I owed 'em some

>loyalty. I'm fairly sure that it was Eudora's built in Internet virus

>program that spotted the PrettyPlace virus. I was so startled to get the

>warning, I deleted the e-mail and attachment immediately. I don't know if

> " Light " includes a virus protection, but considering Eudora has been

>installed for several months, I'm impressed that it spotted the virus

>characteristics and warned me.

>

>I received PrettyPlace with a Liver Support return address, and of course,

>we don't know all of the names since many people " lurk " and never post

>online. I don't know if I'd have been suspicious if I hadn't had the

>Eudora warning not to open the attachment. Since my e-mail also is

>downloadable from three other places, the danger from PrettyPlace was still

>there. Eudora has the option to not save any mail or attachments on your

>server (AT & T Worldnet, Mindspring, AOL, etc.) so I changed my option and

>now only have e-mail available through Eudora.

>

>These viruses are malicious (and so are the people who create them) and all

>of us who receive e-mail are vulnerable. And, probably it will get worse,

>though maybe not if there are a few successful prosecutions. Of course,

>PrettyPlace apparently originated in France, so what can US courts do?

>

>A good virus protection program and updates at least offer some

>protection. Don suggested McAffee's over Norton's, and his reasoning

>sounded good to me though I'm stuck with Norton's Anti-virus for now unless

>I want to shell out some more money.

>

>Take care,

>Geri

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Gayle,

I feel the current best antivirus program is McAfee Antivirus. You can

download their program from their web site: www.mcafee.com. Norton also

makes a popular program which is downloadable from their site.

www.symantec.com

Don

[Guest guest]

Dear :

Yes, it sounds like the virus at work. Did you see the instructions earlier

about how to get it off of your system?

Kathy (AIH)

Seattle area

[Guest guest]

> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:25:48 EST

> From: CTNATIVE@...

> Subject: Re: Attachments

>

> A gentle reminder to those who send attachments to the list- It does not

> work!!! We can't receive them, so please do not send them.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

Hi ,

Thanks for this note. I didn't understand why i kept getting the messages

that read ( this message contained attachements). I thought I was doing

something wrong or there was somwething wrong with my PC. As you can

probably tell, I'm no computer whiz! Anyway, now I know. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Geri,

As soon as all of you warned of the virus I found a 14 day free trial for

macafee and put it on. Then a friend of mine sent me another program to clean

my computer, then I went to scandisk which took 2 hours. I am just freaked by

this, I am finding my computer " I have waited for for years " to be my life

and my new career. I CAN NOT understand what benefit anyone gets by sending

or even creating a virus. No one will see a computer crash. Yet I do

understand. It is so unfair to do to people especially the ones who can't

afford to replace programs or buy parts. And I agree I look forward to all

the things this group has offered and shared in their letters. So when that

virus came with this address I had no reason otherwise to question the

download. Being the exclusive and type of group this is I felt totally

protected I thought. However I have decided not to allow this incident to

rattle me, I have a wonderful computer wizard who takes care of my computer.

Even though I did download this virus I couldn't access it got bored and went

to something else. I love the cards you all send and have recieved so many

cool web sites I pass on as soon as I get them. The special ones I collect on

disk for my electronic scrapbook. Every day I am thrilled to have tons of

email to read and so far have met some really great people.

Gayle

[Guest guest]

Don,

Thankyou for telling us about the macafee web page. I downloaded the 14 day

free trial. Pisses me off that things like this happens.

Gayle

[Guest guest]

Gayle,

Apparently this group was hit hard by the PrettyPlace virus. I talked to

Norton Anti-Virus people on the phone today and they didn't seem to be

especially aware of it.

My son, with his limited income and isolation, is getting so much pleasure

out of his month old computer. It infuriates me that he was hit with a

virus, but I'm not so sure it's the same one because he didn't get any

e-mail with attachments, he said. On my recommendation (from Don and

others in this group) he called this afternoon to tell me he'd just

purchased and was downloading the McAfee anti-virus program. I reinstalled

my Norton's and now have to find out from Don how to keep it from causing

system problems.

This group is very important to all of us and I think we all resent having

to feel suspicious of our incoming e-mail, attachments and links. My son

is now afraid to even open his e-mail until he has McAffee's installed.

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

Gayle,

Don't let it rattle you. I've been on the net for over 10 years. I've only

been infected once. I've seen many attempts pass my way. But a little

caution has kept me safe.

Don

[Guest guest]

Gayle,

Computer viruses go with the territory, they've been

around since the early 80's. They're primarily

directed at big corporations and governments, we're

just innocent bystanders. It's the nature of the

virus to replicate itself and it can do different

types of damage. The way prettypark got into our

group is by infecting the computer of the group

member. Then, it replicated and sent itself to the

email addresses on file in the victims computer

without his/her knowledge.

If the attachment has the extension .exe it's an

executable program. You would have to save it and run

it to activate it. Be especially careful of that

type.

There are other viruses as well, the more you learn,

the more protected you'll be. There's no such thing

as the 'simple life' any more.

Barbara Ann

AIH Transplant Recipient

[Guest guest]

Geri, my computer got infected with the virus, too, it was the post I opened

right before Barbara Ann's warning post. I immediately deleted all the

addresses in my email address book and ran McAfee. It was certainly trying

to dial into ICQ's constantly, until I got it off my system. Amen to what

you said.

KayK

> This group is very important to all of us and I think we all resent

having

> to feel suspicious of our incoming e-mail, attachments and links.

[Guest guest]

Janet,

I can never read any of your posts. They come as [This message

contained attachments] and that's it. Can you not send attachments

so I can read what you have to say? Thank you. Z.

[Guest guest]

Hi Leigh,

How are you today sweetie?

Since you are using , I dont know how to help you with attachments or colours or any of that as I use Outlook Express. However I am sure someone else here must know....

Anyone here also using mail and knows how to do what Leigh needs??

"Could anyone tell me how to do attachments, graphics, different font colors and sizes?"

I'll try to find out. Is there a selection for options? Usually there is a link or button for attachments that you press and then choose the graphic/pick that you want to attach. As for colours... I'm not sure that you can do that using internet web browsers....???

Janalise or Sonja might know more - they are both whizzes at this stuff

*HUGS*

Love Aisha.

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