Tumors

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I read once that a tumor is something encapsulated by the body in an effort

to keep things localized and controlled. Any opinions? J.

Re: Pleuricy

Even if one has a tumor, benign or otherwise, it doesn't necessarily have

to be removed. Tumors grow due to an overall poor state of health, a toxic

condition and low oxygen levels in the body. When those conditions are

reversed by proper nutrition and oxygen therapy such as medical ozone

therapy, the body will eliminate the tumor by itself.

Corny

[Guest guest]

> I read once that a tumor is something encapsulated by the body in

an effort

> to keep things localized and controlled. Any opinions? J.

I agree with that, but it seems like a rather unremarkable

opinion to me. It is more like an observation. The observation

is that tumors are localized and have clear boundaries. The

added opinion is " this is intentional " on the part of the body.

And also that the body does things for good reasons, always

seeking balance and health.

Your mileage may vary.

Moria

[Guest guest]

Ok, this is what Ive done so far. I made a Lite Godzilla using 2

rechargeable AA batteries. I'm using q-tips as my electrodes. If you

cut a q-tip in half its hollow inside and 20-22 gauge wire will slide

down the tube quite nicely and is easily replaced. . I tested this on

myself at first to see what the current draw would be and it was

around .020-.040 mA on my meter. Today I did 2 sessions with my son,

7-min each placing the electrodes around his lower lip area. No

adverse reactions so far. Tomorrow I want to start using three 10 min

sessions each day for 7 days. Hopefully this tumor can be reversed

without the surgery.

Sam L.

>

> Hi All.

> My 3 month old son has and I quote( Hemangioma is a benign tumor,

> usually in the shape of a ball, but sometimes a flatter mat, formed by

> a collection of excess blood vessels in an area. Because blood vessel

> cells are usually transparent in thin smooth muscle cells, hemangiomas

> are usually the color of the blood that runs through them. If the

> blood has a lot of oxygen, or is more arterial, the color is usually

> bright red. If the color is dark, the blood is usually low in oxygen,

> venous or possibly stagnated.

> Hemangiomas are relatively common in newborns, and tend to disappear

> without treatment. The appearance of the tumor may be mistaken for a

> sign of physical abuse.)

>

> This is on his lower lip and interferes with breast-feeding, it

hurts him.

> I did a search though the archives and found the recommended voltage

> is between 2-3 volts for tumor related problems.

> Any help with this or suggestions. The docs want to cut it out and I'm

> not very responsive to this.

>

> tia

>

> Sam L.

>

[Guest guest]

,

I have condrodystrophy and Jensens disease. They are just bone conditions. One

deals with the shortness of the bone and the other deals with the wideness of my

bones. My bones tend to grow wide instead of round like yours. That has been a

possible diagnosis but doctors aren't 100% definite that that would be the

cause.

The growths had biopsies on them and that's why the one on my cheek was

removed. And one thing you had misunderstood that I'll clear up. Mine formed on

the bone not on tissues. What ended up happening was extra tissue formed on the

bone and the one that was on my cheek just wrapped itself around the cheek bone

that's why it was removed because there was no other way to fix the problem on

my cheek and the one on my skull has just formed a mass of tissue and that yet

has not been removed. So each case was on the bone not just on tissue. I hope

that clears things up some for you mam.

I used to live in Michigan and I went to Detroit Children's Hospital and I saw

other doctors there as well. Now I live in Florida and haven't been able to find

any specialists here that take my insurance. If you like I can contact you at

your e-mail to give you further information and if you wanted to talk to me I'd

be glad to do that as well.

Lizzie

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Penni, Yours is the first I've heard of a tumor in the shoulder . . . but you never know. The doctor didn't do a biopsy, did he? I'd suggest taking our MRI to another doctor for a second opinion. . . Waiting six months, when you're in pain now, doesn't make sense . . . I'd try to find an implant-wise doctor at the same time! Hugs, Rogene

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Rogene,

No, he didn't do a biopsy. He did say that because of the location is it very difficult to get to. Their isn't an implant wise doctor in Arizona IMHO so I am emailing and faxing my results to Dr. Kolb. The Rheumatologist did say that the tumor is not the cause of the pain. It's coming from the frozen shoulder and the bursitis.

God what a nightmare!!! First breast cancer, than over 10 years of illness, explant and now this!!!

Love to you!

Penni

Re: Tumors

Penni,

Yours is the first I've heard of a tumor in the shoulder . . . but you never know. The doctor didn't do a biopsy, did he?

I'd suggest taking our MRI to another doctor for a second opinion. . . Waiting six months, when you're in pain now, doesn't make sense . . . I'd try to find an implant-wise doctor at the same time!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Penni, I know it's upsetting . . . but the good part is that, instead of spending years wondering what's going on, you now know and you're addressing the issues. I've long felt that getting better after implants is like peeling an onion . . . Under every layer, there's another . . . Thankfully, it gets better all the time! Love, Rogene

[Guest guest]

I am sorry about this Penni and am sure you are in shock. If I

remember correctly, you drained for a very long time after the

implants were out with Dr. Kolb. Sometimes I have a hard time

keeping up with everyone so please correct me if I am wrong.

I'd be interested in knowing what Dr. Kolb says. I would also be

very anxious about waiting 6 months. Do you think they could do a

biopsy or something to give you more information on just what type

of tumor it is.

Thinking of you,

>

> Ladies,

>

> I saw my Rheumatologist today. Besides my frozen shoulder I have

bursitis in both shoulders but worse in the left shoulder. My MRI

also shows that I have a tumor in my left shoulder. It's hard to

explain where it is but I saw it. It's between the bone of the arm

and the socket. Course once again the doctor says this has nothing

to do with my implants, scar tissue. He only says that the bursitis

and the breast infection that I had could be from the implants.

> So for now the plan of action is to wait 6 months and then first

do an X-Ray and depending on how it looks than another MRI.

> Anyone here know or heard of anyone having a tumor in their

shoulder from implants, infections etc?

> I'm in pretty much in shock right now.

> I plan on sending Dr. Kolb my MRI report and get her opinion.

> Thanks for helping me so much.

>

> Blessings,

> Penni

>

> Do It Afraid

> --Joyce Meyer

>

[Guest guest]

Penni,

This post answered my question about the biopsy. I am so sorry.

Please let us know what Dr. Kolb says.

>

> Rogene,

>

> No, he didn't do a biopsy. He did say that because of the

location is it very difficult to get to. Their isn't an implant

wise doctor in Arizona IMHO so I am emailing and faxing my results

to Dr. Kolb. The Rheumatologist did say that the tumor is not the

cause of the pain. It's coming from the frozen shoulder and the

bursitis.

>

> God what a nightmare!!! First breast cancer, than over 10 years

of illness, explant and now this!!!

>

> Love to you!

> Penni

> Re: Tumors

>

>

>

> Penni,

>

> Yours is the first I've heard of a tumor in the shoulder . . .

but you never know. The doctor didn't do a biopsy, did he?

>

> I'd suggest taking our MRI to another doctor for a second

opinion. . . Waiting six months, when you're in pain now, doesn't

make sense . . . I'd try to find an implant-wise doctor at the same

time!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Wonderful supportive comments Rogene. Penni....you are a

fighter....and this is something else you will get answers for and

have taken care of. You go lady!!!

I know you are in shock...at least you know about this and can take

action now.!!!

Hugs

>

> Penni,

>

> I know it's upsetting . . . but the good part is that, instead

of spending years wondering what's going on, you now know and you're

addressing the issues.

>

> I've long felt that getting better after implants is like

peeling an onion . . . Under every layer, there's another . . .

>

> Thankfully, it gets better all the time!

>

> Love,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Denyse - CLL can appear in a number of places. I also have not heard of it appearing in bone. On one hand you say "bone", and then later you say "soft tissue". Hurry up and get the biopsy done. Dr. Furman, what do you think?

In a message dated 4/28/2009 12:44:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Denysew@... writes:

Hi and all,

I am facing a unique situation and would like to find out if anyone else has been through this. Recently I was told that the bones in my arms are full of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see if it is CLL or some other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this is very rare for CLL to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in several million.

Has anyone else had this experience and if so did the chemo take care of the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The Onc. says it would be really really rare for me to have some totally separate soft tissue cancer and that it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of course that it is the CLL but won't know until the biopsy.

Any information or comments on folks that have heard of this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much,

Denyse

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Denyse

I had some lesions found on my bones about

a year ago, just before I started RFC.

They performed a Bone Biopsy under CT Scan

conditions to draw off a sample from the suspect area of the bone (Aspirate).

It was under a local anesthetic and was

quite painless.

I was lucky that the lesions were only CLL cells, so no

transformations to a higher grade lymphoma.

Regards

UK, Bournemouth. Dx May 2000. Age 52.

2002 Oral Fludarabine.

June 04 and Jan 05 4 weeks of Rituxan.

Oct 05/Feb 06 monthly Rituxan and Chlorambucil.

July/Dec 08 RFC.

Trisomy 12, IgVH mutated, ZAP70 –ve, CD38

–ve.

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Sent: 28 April 2009 17:43

Subject: Tumors

Hi and all,

I am facing a unique situation and would

like to find out if anyone else has been through this. Recently I was told that

the bones in my arms are full of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see

if it is CLL or some other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this

is very rare for CLL to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in

several million.

Has anyone else had this experience and

if so did the chemo take care of the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The

Onc. says it would be really really rare for me to have some totally separate

soft tissue cancer and that it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of

course that it is the CLL but won't know until the biopsy.

Any information or comments on folks that

have heard of this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much,

Denyse

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Denyse,

It is possible for CLL to cause lesions in the bones. In essence, CLL is always

in the bones as it involves the bone marrow. The distinction is that CLL does

not cause what should be seen as lesions in the bone. These lesions should be

biopsied in all likelihood.

Rick Furman, MD

>

> Hi and all,

>

> I am facing a unique situation and would like to find out if anyone else

> has been through this. Recently I was told that the bones in my arms are full

> of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see if it is CLL or some

> other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this is very rare for

CLL

> to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in several million.

>

> Has anyone else had this experience and if so did the chemo take care of

> the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The Onc. says it would be really

> really rare for me to have some totally separate soft tissue cancer and that

> it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of course that it is the CLL

> but won't know until the biopsy.

>

> Any information or comments on folks that have heard of this would be

> greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks so much,

> Denyse

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[Guest guest]

,

Perhaps you could ask Dr. Furman if what he's saying is that if CLL is

the cause of lesions they wouldn't show up as lesions? If not, would

you ask him please to clarify what looks likes two contradictory

sentences In his last post? I'm sure that when he says " in all

likelihood " he's saying " in any case. "

-Ellen D.

On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:05 PM, rrfman wrote:

>

>

> Denyse,

> It is possible for CLL to cause lesions in the bones. In essence, CLL

> is always in the bones as it involves the bone marrow. The distinction

> is that CLL does not cause what should be seen as lesions in the bone.

> These lesions should be biopsied in all likelihood.

>

> Rick Furman, MD

>

>

> >

> > Hi and all,

> >

> > I am facing a unique situation and would like to find out if anyone

> else

> > has been through this. Recently I was told that the bones in my

> arms are full

> > of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see if it is CLL or

> some

> > other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this is very

> rare for CLL

> > to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in several

> million.

> >

> > Has anyone else had this experience and if so did the chemo take

> care of

> > the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The Onc. says it would be

> really

> > really rare for me to have some totally separate soft tissue cancer

> and that

> > it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of course that it is

> the CLL

> > but won't know until the biopsy.

> >

> > Any information or comments on folks that have heard of this would

> be

> > greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks so much,

> > Denyse

> > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2

> Easy

> > Steps!

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> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

The lesions that Denyse has should be biopsied because it would be unlikely that

they are CLL. While CLL always involves the bone marrow, and therefore, the

bones, it almost never produces areas of erosion in the bone that would be seen

as " lesions " on imaging.

I hope that helps.

> > >

> > > Hi and all,

> > >

> > > I am facing a unique situation and would like to find out if anyone

> > else

> > > has been through this. Recently I was told that the bones in my

> > arms are full

> > > of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see if it is CLL or

> > some

> > > other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this is very

> > rare for CLL

> > > to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in several

> > million.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else had this experience and if so did the chemo take

> > care of

> > > the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The Onc. says it would be

> > really

> > > really rare for me to have some totally separate soft tissue cancer

> > and that

> > > it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of course that it is

> > the CLL

> > > but won't know until the biopsy.

> > >

> > > Any information or comments on folks that have heard of this would

> > be

> > > greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much,

> > > Denyse

> > > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2

> > Easy

> > > Steps!

> > >

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> > > ilExcScore428NO62)

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks — I'm clearer now.

-Ellen

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:47 PM, rrfman wrote:

>

>

> The lesions that Denyse has should be biopsied because it would be

> unlikely that they are CLL. While CLL always involves the bone marrow,

> and therefore, the bones, it almost never produces areas of erosion in

> the bone that would be seen as " lesions " on imaging.

>

> I hope that helps.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi and all,

> > > >

> > > > I am facing a unique situation and would like to find out if

> anyone

> > > else

> > > > has been through this. Recently I was told that the bones in my

> > > arms are full

> > > > of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see if it is CLL

> or

> > > some

> > > > other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this is

> very

> > > rare for CLL

> > > > to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in several

> > > million.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone else had this experience and if so did the chemo take

> > > care of

> > > > the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The Onc. says it would

> be

> > > really

> > > > really rare for me to have some totally separate soft tissue

> cancer

> > > and that

> > > > it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of course that it

> is

> > > the CLL

> > > > but won't know until the biopsy.

> > > >

> > > > Any information or comments on folks that have heard of this

> would

> > > be

> > > > greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much,

> > > > Denyse

> > > > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in

> Just 2

> > > Easy

> > > > Steps!

> > > >

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dr. Furman and everyone. I will have a biopsy done this week I believe and am fearing the worst here because I definitely have erosion of the bone. I have a crack in the humorous bone which is breaking from the inside out due to the cancer. We have only MRI'd one arm but both arms had been hurting me so I assume that the cancer is in both arms and who knows, maybe everywhere. Dr. says he sees tumors on my spine also but I cannot see that in any MRI report. Hope he is wrong there.

I am very nervous about this and afraid to find out what the biopsy will tell us. I guess I have no choice but to face this head on and see if there is anything we can do about it.

I'll keep you posted and I really appreciate your comments.

Denyse

In a message dated 4/28/2009 6:47:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rrfurman@... writes:

The lesions that Denyse has should be biopsied because it would be unlikely that they are CLL. While CLL always involves the bone marrow, and therefore, the bones, it almost never produces areas of erosion in the bone that would be seen as "lesions" on imaging.I hope that helps.> > >> > > Hi and all,> > >> > > I am facing a unique situation and would like to find out if anyone > > else> > > has been through this. Recently I was told that the bones in my > > arms are full> > > of tumors. I will still need a biopsy done to see if it is CLL or > > some> > > other totally separate cancer. My Onc. tells me that this is very > > rare for CLL> > > to go into the bones and that it only happens to 1 in several > > million.> > >> > > Has anyone else had this experience and if so did the chemo take > > care of> > > the tumors and the CLL at the same time? The Onc. says it would be > > really> > > really rare for me to have some totally separate soft tissue cancer > > and that> > > it would be really bad luck. So, I am hoping of course that it is > > the CLL> > > but won't know until the biopsy.> > >> > > Any information or comments on folks that have heard of this would > > be> > > greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks so much,> > > Denyse> > > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 > > Easy> > > Steps!> > > > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol? > > redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx? > > sc=668072 & hmpgID=62 & bcd=Apr> > > ilExcScore428NO62)> > >> >> >>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Gloria

Sounds like you had a fun day.

Me too. [Not]

What is HCC?

Your on the downhill slope now, yayyyyyyyyy.

Just a bit longer Gloria.

You can do this.

I really look forward to the late Christmas news from you, saying that you are now 'officially' HCV free.

[im so excited. lol]

Well, Im getting better from my mouth surgery....finally.

I can real eat again.

Im feeling more alive.

I hope your tumors are just growths that can be ignored or removed with ease.

Maybe they are just scaring type things from the HCV.

Know that you will be in my prayers.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: [ ] Tumors Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 12:17 AM

Hi Gang:Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway, it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for this Clinical. The news from

the last CT Scan was not the best that I could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension (lol) and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going

to have some upset clients; but, that's life.Gloria

[Guest guest]

Oh no Gloria! HCC is hepatocellular carcinoma, liver cancer in layman's terms.

But I think the primary thing to remember here Gloria is they said it MAY

indicate right? It may not be that. (The docs once told my Dad he had lung

cancer and less than six months to live, turns out he had pnuemonia and he is

just fine years and years later!) Sometimes I think they are so crazy to tell

people stuff like that when they are not sure! So anyway, stay positive and

keep doing good stuff for your liver. It may just be fibrosis which is of

course common with Hep C and which can heal when you kick the Hep C. But, of

course, stay on top of your docs and make sure you get follow up.

Best Wishes,

Scarlet

>

>

>

> Hi Gang:

>

> Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I

> still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant

> price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is

> October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever

> back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll

> booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the

> booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so

> stunned that I pulled the " but, I have 3 months worth of medication on

> ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a

> certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway,

> it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.

>

> However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for

> this Clinical. The news from the last CT Scan was not the best that I

> could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the

> liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement

> that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for

> another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said " fine " .

>

> The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they

> would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to

> finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not

> going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.

>

> Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in

> getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or

> two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over

> totally to my assistant and " retire " on my hugh government pension (lol)

> and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going to have some

> upset clients; but, that's life.

>

> Gloria

>

[Guest guest]

Gloria,

Stay positive....I have a bunch of cysts...maybe that's what they are.Do you need another biopsy? uggg I'm praying for ya. Sounds like TX is going great so your absolutley right..Get the Hep out and then go from there. Pam

[ ] Tumors

Hi Gang:Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway, it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for this Clinical. The news from the last CT Scan was not the best that I could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension (lol) and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going to have some upset clients; but, that's life.Gloria

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DonNOT!!!HCC = heptocellular carcinomaGloria

Hi Gloria

Sounds like you had a fun day.

Me too. [Not]

What is HCC?

Your on the downhill slope now, yayyyyyyyyy.

Just a bit longer Gloria.

You can do this.

I really look forward to the late Christmas news from you, saying that you are now 'officially' HCV free.

[im so excited. lol]

Well, Im getting better from my mouth surgery....finally.

I can real eat again.

Im feeling more alive.

I hope your tumors are just growths that can be ignored or removed with ease.

Maybe they are just scaring type things from the HCV.

Know that you will be in my prayers.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: [ ] Tumors Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 12:17 AM

Hi Gang:Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway, it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for this Clinical. The news

from

the last CT Scan was not the best that I could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension (lol) and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going

to have some upset clients; but, that's life.Gloria

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PamThanks for the words of encouragement and no they are definitely not cycts, they are tumours. At this point the next step is just another CT Scan to keep an eye on their growth. I could only imagine that at some point they will want to biopsy exactly those two areas; but, maybe they don't because they wouldn't want to cause them to grow any faster. Anyway, my last biopsy was so absolutely painless that it wouldn't bother me in the least.Gloria

Gloria,

Stay positive.... I have a bunch of cysts...maybe that's what they are.Do you need another biopsy? uggg I'm praying for ya. Sounds like TX is going great so your absolutley right..Get the Hep out and then go from there. Pam

[ ] Tumors

Hi Gang:Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway, it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for this Clinical. The news from the last CT Scan was not the best that I could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension (lol) and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going to have some upset clients; but, that's life.Gloria

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Thanks Scarlet:I am going to try very hard not to get stuck in the negative place. However, I will allow those moments when I just want to scream and hit the bed, that all this isn't fair!!! But, who says it's supposed to be fair? PS - it is not fibrosis, I passed into cirrhosis before this particular treatment and so this Clinic has know about these spots still last January Now, I'm going to dissect the results to so that I can understand some or those big medical terms.At the end of this report, it clearly says these are suggestive of multifocal HCC.Gloria

Oh no Gloria! HCC is hepatocellular carcinoma, liver cancer in layman's terms. But I think the primary thing to remember here Gloria is they said it MAY indicate right? It may not be that. (The docs once told my Dad he had lung cancer and less than six months to live, turns out he had pnuemonia and he is just fine years and years later!) Sometimes I think they are so crazy to tell people stuff like that when they are not sure! So anyway, stay positive and keep doing good stuff for your liver. It may just be fibrosis which is of course common with Hep C and which can heal when you kick the Hep C. But, of course, stay on top of your docs and make sure you get follow up.

Best Wishes,

Scarlet

>

>

>

> Hi Gang:

>

> Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I

> still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant

> price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is

> October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever

> back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll

> booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the

> booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so

> stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on

> ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a

> certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway,

> it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.

>

> However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for

> this Clinical. The news from the last CT Scan was not the best that I

> could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the

> liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement

> that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for

> another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".

>

> The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they

> would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to

> finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not

> going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.

>

> Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in

> getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or

> two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over

> totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension (lol)

> and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going to have some

> upset clients; but, that's life.

>

> Gloria

>

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Dont freak out Gloria.

It may not be as bad as it sounds.

There is always hope.

As Scarlet suggested, keep staying positive, and take care of yourself.

Here is search results for - multifocal hcc + liver disease:

http://search./search?ei=utf-8 & fr=slv8-tyc7 & p=multifocal%20hcc%20%2b%20liver%20disease & type=

Here is the whole folder in the links section:

http://health.dir./group/ /links/CANCER_and_TRANSPLANTING_001245936741/

You know that I am rooting for you 1000%.

Please tell me if you need more info, and I will research for you.

love

don in ks

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: [ ] Tumors Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 12:17 AM

Hi Gang:Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway, it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for this

Clinical. The news from the last CT Scan was not the best that I could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension (lol) and not till the end of the

year. Ohh am I ever going to have some upset clients; but, that's life.Gloria

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Gloria,

So sorry to hear the latest with you, stay positive, I cant imagine that they would have allowed you to continue the last three months if they were definitly sure of the dcc. So lets pray that the MAYBE is all that it is. Just thinking back to when my husband was diagnosed with HIV, no one could convince me that I was negative for HIV, ps they also couldnt diagnose the hepc for 15 yrs later. So i have had the fear that I am going to die from HIV, which thank GOD was and still is negative 17 yrs later, Then there is the battle with the HEPC, then failing tx, well i sorta expect that with my track record cancer of some sort will be next, and I will fight that one with all I have too. Life sucks if you stay in that sucky place, or life is ok if you choose to believe it is. Either way its an ongoing battle with something . Make the best of everyday, i look forward to your trail being over so you can have some quality of life

again. As we both know you will start feeling better real soon, your 75% complete. Keep up the good work and know that we are all here for you to lean on. My prayers are with you, I know im following in your footsteps as im one trial away and i will do it regardless. We damn sure cant be accused of being a quiter or not trying. Betty

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...> Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 1:34:50 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: Tumors

Thanks Scarlet:I am going to try very hard not to get stuck in the negative place. However, I will allow those moments when I just want to scream and hit the bed, that all this isn't fair!!! But, who says it's supposed to be fair? PS - it is not fibrosis, I passed into cirrhosis before this particular treatment and so this Clinic has know about these spots still last January Now, I'm going to dissect the results to so that I can understand some or those big medical terms.At the end of this report, it clearly says these are suggestive of multifocal HCC.Gloria

Oh no Gloria! HCC is hepatocellular carcinoma, liver cancer in layman's terms. But I think the primary thing to remember here Gloria is they said it MAY indicate right? It may not be that. (The docs once told my Dad he had lung cancer and less than six months to live, turns out he had pnuemonia and he is just fine years and years later!) Sometimes I think they are so crazy to tell people stuff like that when they are not sure! So anyway, stay positive and keep doing good stuff for your liver. It may just be fibrosis which is of course common with Hep C and which can heal when you kick the Hep C. But, of course, stay on top of your docs and make sure you get follow up.Best Wishes,Scarlet>> > > Hi

Gang:> > Well I just got back from the 14 hours trip to Vancouver and home. I> still have to wonder why so many people want to pay that exorbitant> price for a ferry to bring you over to Vancouver Island!!! This is> October, so I'm sure they are not coming to go camping but do they ever> back the ferries up on a Friday. When I finally got down to the toll> booth, we had already missed the 3:00 ferry and then the girl in the> booth tells me that we probably wouldn't even get the 5:00. I was so> stunned that I pulled the "but, I have 3 months worth of medication on> ice in here that has to get home plus, I have to take medication at a> certain time (hell, that medication was what had to get home). Anyway,> it worked and they put us on the 5:00 ferry.> > However, besides that I had to go over to get the last 3 months meds for> this Clinical. The news

from the last CT Scan was not the best that I> could have hoped for. Apparently, I have a couple of tumors on the> liver which indicate HCC.. The Hep Dr. actually displayed amazement> that I didn't react horribly to the news. They want me back over for> another CT Scan at the end of treatment. I just said "fine".> > The cousin that was in with me also couldn't get over the fact that they> would still want me to wait another 3 months. I told her - I have to> finish this treatment first and get rid of the virus or the HCC is not> going to amount to a hill of beans in the end.> > Anyway, I'm still absorbing the news and what comes next!! No sense in> getting into a panic about something that I've probably had a year or> two already. However, I do believe that I will hand my business over> totally to my assistant and "retire" on my hugh government pension

(lol)> and not till the end of the year. Ohh am I ever going to have some> upset clients; but, that's life.> > Gloria>

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