Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 thanks tess, sounds like you know just where i'm comming from. yes i can re-apply too, but i thought it was 55. but still a long ways off. kathy in il Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Tess, Yes our government seems to have a policy of not disclosing anything to anyone. I was on V.A. Non service connected disability, I told my VA counselor that I was returning to work, He said " Thats nice " . I went back to work thinking I was doing the right thing. Sometime later the V.A. found out I was working and demanded all their money back. It was somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000. About the same time I lost my job, The lupus flared back up and I was financially ruined. The good side (if you want to call it that)was the Va found out I was unemployed and granted me my disability again.... Which they kept till my debt to them was paid off!! Not able to work and with 2 children I found myself on welfare. Seems like sometimes there just is no easy way!! Huggs Lena > Dear Kathy (IL)...I am sorry for your struggles. I know it is hard. > When I first applied for Soc Sec, I was informed that since I had been a > stay-at-home mom to 4 children, I had no credits toward social security. > Therefore all I could qualify for was SSI. After my kids were grown, I > did work off and on as I could. I found out a few months ago that had I > chosen not to try to work, I would now be eligible for my deceased > husband's SS which is almost double what SSI is. But since I worked a > little, I have to wait til I am 60. (I was widowed at 24, divorced at > 39) I was trying to do the " right " thing. > > We've been on the low-income/sec. 8 list since 96, still waiting. Our > county has very little fed. funded. housing. I have considered moving > to another county, but our medical insurance is very good here compared > to other places. And Em knows this area, the buses, etc. It would be > hard to move. But, we may have to at some point. > > Em works part-time at Safeway, and is eligible for SSI when her hours > are down, but it is very little - sometimes $35. - 40 a month.. She > would make more if she didn't work and took the full SSI. But people > need to understand she is WAY more capable than she is disabled, and at > 24 she needs to be with people and have a life. Staying home all day > would hurt her terribly. > > This country, as much as I love it, does not make things easy for people > who are truly disabled and needy. We are so tight this month I'm short > for rent by a hundred. But I know God will take care of us. I don't > know what I'd do without my faith. Sometimes I do feel bitter, but I > really try to keep a hopeful outlook. > > A friend was complaining about how hard it was to live on $1700. a > month. We live on about half of that. Sometimes I feel like I'm going > to have to force myself back to work, no matter what. But I might be > able to keep it up a couple months then I pay for it a few years with so > many health problems. I also lose part of the SSI. Caught between a > rock & a hard place. > > Whew... didn't know all that needed to come out! > > Hang in there, Kathy...we are all hoping and praying things will get > better. > > Love & Hugs, Always... > > Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Lena...That must have been so very difficult, Lena. I guess life isn't necessarily supposed to be easy, but golly, a " little less difficult " would sure be nice! I am grateful to be able to share here, Thanks for your kindness. Hugs... Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Tess, At the time I thought I faced an impossible task, However we do seem to be able to adapt and overcome. Huggs Lena > Hi Lena...That must have been so very difficult, Lena. I guess life > isn't necessarily supposed to be easy, but golly, a " little less > difficult " would sure be nice! > > I am grateful to be able to share here, Thanks for your kindness. > > Hugs... > > Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hi ) I'm no pro (yet) and I haven't had the drastic results some have had. My advice would be to go a little slower on the treadmill so you aren't so uncomfortable you want to quit but still challenge yourself. I like to watch tv while I do the treadmill. I usually wake up early and do cardio (5:30) and the only thing I can find on is MTV and let me tell you, that is motivating, seeing all the scantly clad hotties dancing around. And knowing I wouldn't mind looking like that but would never have the guts to flaunt it ;o) I've lost 21 lbs (169-148) and only 7% body fat (32%-25%)in 6 months, some do more than that in 12 weeks. But I want to make this doable for me and not try to kill myself and get burned out. Good luck to you ) Sunshine > I haven't posted much about what I'm doing lately because I've been in limbo > and didn't want to set myself up for disappointment. I did BFL eating and > exercising for 10 weeks. It was incredible that I stuck to it for so long. I > have never exercised regularly although I've tried in the past. So this was > major accomplishment. Progress was very slow, but thanks to this group I kept > going realizing that the scale was not a good judge and that results would come > in time. I didn't see much change at all despite my dedication, but I still > want to try again. > After 2 weeks out of the program I'm starting again this week. It has been > so hard to get back into the routine of waking up at 5:30. I didn't do it for > the first few days and missed workouts. I did lower body yesterday and just > now I finished my first cardio in two weeks. It was awful. I'm so discouraged > because cardio is so difficult for me. It's hard enough to get out of bed to > start running, but then as I start I immediately want to quit. I have the > added pressure of feeling that I have to work harder with the exercise because I > didn't see much results the last 10 weeks. How in the world did these people > do it that are pictured in the book? I don't understand how they can be so > fit and muscular in 12 weeks. What do you think? So many people on this list > seem so dedicated and their progress is slow too. How can somebody else > following the same program have such dramatic results. > Anyway back to this exercise stuff. I only made it 16 minutes on the > treadmill. I guess that's better than quitting at 5 minutes which is what I wanted > to do every minute after that. How do you keep going when you're getting out > of breath and your throat is burning? I'm so afraid that if I don't keep the > intensity up I won't see results but then I can't increase the intensity > because I won't last. It's a catch 22. > One of the things that made the eating plan easy for me is that I always knew > I could eat again in a couple hours and I could eat at night. Also the free > days kept me from feeling deprived and I really looked forward to them. With > exercise I feel like there is no " light at the end of the tunnel " to keep me > going. It would be great to know that if I keep working at it I'll build the > stamina to make it through comfortably. But the nature of this program is that > you have to keep increasing the intensity so I never will be comfortable. I > feel like this will always be torture and I question myself everyday if it's > worth it. > > K > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hi , I have found diet is generally the culprit when folks aren't seeing results, not usually the exercise portion. Why don't you post a sample menu and we can take a look at it? I am not sure what is considered dramatic? The folks in the book, some of them took 2-3 challenges to get where they are at. This program is great because you are getting in shape while loosing weight so you may not see the 'dramatic' results that you do with say Atkins or Weight watchers, but you know that you are not loosing lean mass and you know you won't look like one of those 'Skinny Fat' folks. Keep in mind a loss of 1-2 lbs a week is healthy and sustainable, anything more then that signifies a lean mass loss. I know it took me 3 years to gain my weight and get out of shape so it will take me more then 12 weeks to get back into shape and drop the fat. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 The thing that kept me from succeeding last time was my belief that I was going to look like those people in the book once I was finished, and anything short of that was not acceptable. So guess what, I defined the term 'setting yourself up to fail'!! I am one week away from my 12 week goal this time, ate clean most of the time, and did not miss ONE workout. It's all about just doing YOUR best and not trying to live up to anyone else's results. You did the right thing by continuing the program, most people would just give up but you haven't!!! Congratulate yourself!! This is not about 12 weeks, it is about a lifetime of eating right and doing good for your body. Everyone goes through tough spots, it's who bounces back that has truly succeeded. (listen to me, like I'm some philosopher!) Anyway, IMHO, most of those people have trainers that push them, or additional help with diet, etc. I applaud them, and I'm sure it took a lot of work and dedication to get that way. But it's more important on focusing on what is going to work for you. Maybe post a few meals and exercises on this board and let some feedback guide you back into things. Everyone here is always willing to help out and you know you'll never be judged or criticized! Just given the boot to the rear that we all need sometimes!! Keep your chin up, you are doing something great for yourself!!! Jana > I haven't posted much about what I'm doing lately because I've been in limbo > and didn't want to set myself up for disappointment. I did BFL eating and > exercising for 10 weeks. It was incredible that I stuck to it for so long. I > have never exercised regularly although I've tried in the past. So this was > major accomplishment. Progress was very slow, but thanks to this group I kept > going realizing that the scale was not a good judge and that results would come > in time. I didn't see much change at all despite my dedication, but I still > want to try again. > After 2 weeks out of the program I'm starting again this week. It has been > so hard to get back into the routine of waking up at 5:30. I didn't do it for > the first few days and missed workouts. I did lower body yesterday and just > now I finished my first cardio in two weeks. It was awful. I'm so discouraged > because cardio is so difficult for me. It's hard enough to get out of bed to > start running, but then as I start I immediately want to quit. I have the > added pressure of feeling that I have to work harder with the exercise because I > didn't see much results the last 10 weeks. How in the world did these people > do it that are pictured in the book? I don't understand how they can be so > fit and muscular in 12 weeks. What do you think? So many people on this list > seem so dedicated and their progress is slow too. How can somebody else > following the same program have such dramatic results. > Anyway back to this exercise stuff. I only made it 16 minutes on the > treadmill. I guess that's better than quitting at 5 minutes which is what I wanted > to do every minute after that. How do you keep going when you're getting out > of breath and your throat is burning? I'm so afraid that if I don't keep the > intensity up I won't see results but then I can't increase the intensity > because I won't last. It's a catch 22. > One of the things that made the eating plan easy for me is that I always knew > I could eat again in a couple hours and I could eat at night. Also the free > days kept me from feeling deprived and I really looked forward to them. With > exercise I feel like there is no " light at the end of the tunnel " to keep me > going. It would be great to know that if I keep working at it I'll build the > stamina to make it through comfortably. But the nature of this program is that > you have to keep increasing the intensity so I never will be comfortable. I > feel like this will always be torture and I question myself everyday if it's > worth it. > > K > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hear Hear Jana! That's the Key to success you just stated there, do your best and don't give up. No matter what you will look better and feel better after 12 weeks, that's a gaurantee. So choose goals that are achievable and you will be a winner. Your number one goal should be to complete 12 weeks regardless of all other outcomes. That was my number one goal in challenge 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 In a message dated 4/1/2004 2:36:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I like to watch tv while I do the treadmill. I usually wake up early and do cardio (5:30) and the only thing I can find on is MTV and let me tell you, that is motivating, Hi Sunshine. I know everybody is different but would you mind telling me how you increase your intensity level with the treadmill. I'm just curious what some people judge as a 5, 6, 9 or 10. Again I know that depends on how fit you are. When I did the challenge the first time I was pretty conservative in how I increased my intensity because I wanted to make it through. I would start around level 5 for speed and then I would increase about every .4 - .5 as I went up a level so I would end up doing around level 7 as my 9 intensity. Today I tried starting at 5.5 and increasing by .5 each time. That was much harder for me. I've also considered changing incline instead of speed. I think maybe I could manage a brisk walk at a higher incline rather than the full out running. Would this work the same? K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: ltlmisscrankypants > I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Every time I get down to a low dose of prednisone, my throat hurts and the glands swell. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: ltlmisscrankypants > I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Every time I get down to a low dose of prednisone, my throat hurts and the glands swell. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 My prayer's for a speedy recovery are with you. Take it easy and take your med's. ltlmisscrankypants <ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote: Hi everyone. I had my tonsillectomy yesterday morning, and although initially I was told I would be kept in for a few days to be administered my meds via IV, I was let go yesterday evening, because I seemed to be doing okay. I was cranked up on pain meds....so of course I was feeling " fine " . I had been struggling since last night to get any fluids down at all. My throat started to swell shut and I couldn't even swallow my own saliva. As of today, I was on day 2 without Prednisone....and I could sure tell. I was in excruciating as every joint in my body decided to flare right up. Went back to the hospital this afternoon, and was just released again a little while ago. Had some lovely IV fluids and meds to help me out. Was feeling a lot better initially, but am going downhill again slowly here. Was switched to a liquid pain reliever, but I struggle to get it down as well. I was told to go back to the hospital in the morning if I am still unable to take my meds and swallow properly. I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. Needed to vent...thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 My prayer's for a speedy recovery are with you. Take it easy and take your med's. ltlmisscrankypants <ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote: Hi everyone. I had my tonsillectomy yesterday morning, and although initially I was told I would be kept in for a few days to be administered my meds via IV, I was let go yesterday evening, because I seemed to be doing okay. I was cranked up on pain meds....so of course I was feeling " fine " . I had been struggling since last night to get any fluids down at all. My throat started to swell shut and I couldn't even swallow my own saliva. As of today, I was on day 2 without Prednisone....and I could sure tell. I was in excruciating as every joint in my body decided to flare right up. Went back to the hospital this afternoon, and was just released again a little while ago. Had some lovely IV fluids and meds to help me out. Was feeling a lot better initially, but am going downhill again slowly here. Was switched to a liquid pain reliever, but I struggle to get it down as well. I was told to go back to the hospital in the morning if I am still unable to take my meds and swallow properly. I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. Needed to vent...thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 , Post-op care in adult tonsillectomy http://www.doctorhoffman.com/xton.htm This is an interesting site. It tells of the history of tonsillectomies and how they believed diseased tonsils caused rhuematism http://www.utmb.edu/otoref/Grnds/tnaprobs.htm What did the hospital say about the swelling? I would think a lot of swelling is normal so soon after the surgery. I hope you feel better soon. I know it must be very painful. a On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:55 AM, ltlmisscrankypants wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > I had my tonsillectomy yesterday morning, and although initially I was > told I would be kept in for a few days to be administered my meds via > IV, I was let go yesterday evening, because I seemed to be doing > okay. I was cranked up on pain meds....so of course I was > feeling " fine " . > > I had been struggling since last night to get any fluids down at > all. My > throat started to swell shut and I couldn't even swallow my own > saliva. > As of today, I was on day 2 without Prednisone....and I could sure > tell. > I was in excruciating as every joint in my body decided to flare > right up. > > Went back to the hospital this afternoon, and was just released again > a > little while ago. Had some lovely IV fluids and meds to help me out. > Was feeling a lot better initially, but am going downhill again slowly > here. Was switched to a liquid pain reliever, but I struggle to get > it > down as well. I was told to go back to the hospital in the morning > if I > am still unable to take my meds and swallow properly. > > I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some > way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed > to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. > > Needed to vent...thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 , Post-op care in adult tonsillectomy http://www.doctorhoffman.com/xton.htm This is an interesting site. It tells of the history of tonsillectomies and how they believed diseased tonsils caused rhuematism http://www.utmb.edu/otoref/Grnds/tnaprobs.htm What did the hospital say about the swelling? I would think a lot of swelling is normal so soon after the surgery. I hope you feel better soon. I know it must be very painful. a On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:55 AM, ltlmisscrankypants wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > I had my tonsillectomy yesterday morning, and although initially I was > told I would be kept in for a few days to be administered my meds via > IV, I was let go yesterday evening, because I seemed to be doing > okay. I was cranked up on pain meds....so of course I was > feeling " fine " . > > I had been struggling since last night to get any fluids down at > all. My > throat started to swell shut and I couldn't even swallow my own > saliva. > As of today, I was on day 2 without Prednisone....and I could sure > tell. > I was in excruciating as every joint in my body decided to flare > right up. > > Went back to the hospital this afternoon, and was just released again > a > little while ago. Had some lovely IV fluids and meds to help me out. > Was feeling a lot better initially, but am going downhill again slowly > here. Was switched to a liquid pain reliever, but I struggle to get > it > down as well. I was told to go back to the hospital in the morning > if I > am still unable to take my meds and swallow properly. > > I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some > way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed > to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. > > Needed to vent...thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 I HOPE YOU ARE FEELING BETTER SOON. GET AS MUCH REST AS YOU CAN. THE DOCTORS LET PEOPLE GO TO SOON SOMETIMES WHEN THEY NEED TO MONITER. GOOD LUCK AND GET WELL SOON. KIM a <a54@...> wrote: , Post-op care in adult tonsillectomy http://www.doctorhoffman.com/xton.htm This is an interesting site. It tells of the history of tonsillectomies and how they believed diseased tonsils caused rhuematism http://www.utmb.edu/otoref/Grnds/tnaprobs.htm What did the hospital say about the swelling? I would think a lot of swelling is normal so soon after the surgery. I hope you feel better soon. I know it must be very painful. a On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:55 AM, ltlmisscrankypants wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > I had my tonsillectomy yesterday morning, and although initially I was > told I would be kept in for a few days to be administered my meds via > IV, I was let go yesterday evening, because I seemed to be doing > okay. I was cranked up on pain meds....so of course I was > feeling " fine " . > > I had been struggling since last night to get any fluids down at > all. My > throat started to swell shut and I couldn't even swallow my own > saliva. > As of today, I was on day 2 without Prednisone....and I could sure > tell. > I was in excruciating as every joint in my body decided to flare > right up. > > Went back to the hospital this afternoon, and was just released again > a > little while ago. Had some lovely IV fluids and meds to help me out. > Was feeling a lot better initially, but am going downhill again slowly > here. Was switched to a liquid pain reliever, but I struggle to get > it > down as well. I was told to go back to the hospital in the morning > if I > am still unable to take my meds and swallow properly. > > I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some > way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed > to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. > > Needed to vent...thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 I HOPE YOU ARE FEELING BETTER SOON. GET AS MUCH REST AS YOU CAN. THE DOCTORS LET PEOPLE GO TO SOON SOMETIMES WHEN THEY NEED TO MONITER. GOOD LUCK AND GET WELL SOON. KIM a <a54@...> wrote: , Post-op care in adult tonsillectomy http://www.doctorhoffman.com/xton.htm This is an interesting site. It tells of the history of tonsillectomies and how they believed diseased tonsils caused rhuematism http://www.utmb.edu/otoref/Grnds/tnaprobs.htm What did the hospital say about the swelling? I would think a lot of swelling is normal so soon after the surgery. I hope you feel better soon. I know it must be very painful. a On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:55 AM, ltlmisscrankypants wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > I had my tonsillectomy yesterday morning, and although initially I was > told I would be kept in for a few days to be administered my meds via > IV, I was let go yesterday evening, because I seemed to be doing > okay. I was cranked up on pain meds....so of course I was > feeling " fine " . > > I had been struggling since last night to get any fluids down at > all. My > throat started to swell shut and I couldn't even swallow my own > saliva. > As of today, I was on day 2 without Prednisone....and I could sure > tell. > I was in excruciating as every joint in my body decided to flare > right up. > > Went back to the hospital this afternoon, and was just released again > a > little while ago. Had some lovely IV fluids and meds to help me out. > Was feeling a lot better initially, but am going downhill again slowly > here. Was switched to a liquid pain reliever, but I struggle to get > it > down as well. I was told to go back to the hospital in the morning > if I > am still unable to take my meds and swallow properly. > > I am wondering if the excessing swelling in my throat could in some > way have to do with missing 2 days of Prednisone. Sure, I'm supposed > to swell after a tonsillectomy...but this is ridiculous. > > Needed to vent...thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 a: Thank you so much for the link. I will read it as soon as I am done posting here. Strangely, my lymph nodes and tonsils started to swell up last year prior to being diagnosed with RA. I had biopsies done on two of my lymph nodes as they thought I might have Lymphoma. Thankfully, the tests came back okay. I've been certain for a while now that my tonsils/lymph nodes and my RA were in some way connected. As much as I wanted to run from the hospital on Thursday and NOT have the surgery, I knew that I had to go through with it in the off chance that it would somehow make me healthier. Right now is rough, and I was told I would need about 4 weeks to recover due to the meds I am on. I guess we don't heal as well with the Methotrexate and the Prednisone. The extreme swelling was due to the surgery as well as the fact that I had gone 2 full days without any Prednisone. Someone messed up and didn't make sure to give it to me via IV. I'm back on it now...and the swelling is down. Thank you for your concern... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 a: Thank you so much for the link. I will read it as soon as I am done posting here. Strangely, my lymph nodes and tonsils started to swell up last year prior to being diagnosed with RA. I had biopsies done on two of my lymph nodes as they thought I might have Lymphoma. Thankfully, the tests came back okay. I've been certain for a while now that my tonsils/lymph nodes and my RA were in some way connected. As much as I wanted to run from the hospital on Thursday and NOT have the surgery, I knew that I had to go through with it in the off chance that it would somehow make me healthier. Right now is rough, and I was told I would need about 4 weeks to recover due to the meds I am on. I guess we don't heal as well with the Methotrexate and the Prednisone. The extreme swelling was due to the surgery as well as the fact that I had gone 2 full days without any Prednisone. Someone messed up and didn't make sure to give it to me via IV. I'm back on it now...and the swelling is down. Thank you for your concern... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 In a message dated 6/5/2005 3:20:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, firesprite68@... writes: Unfortunately I can't afford organic so I know darn well my meat did suffer as an animal That's not necessarily true. I grew up in the country and the cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. always looked pretty happy to me. You have to kill to live. Why vegans select out animals over plants or fish doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 They don't eat fish either so don't single them out but I do take your point about plants. thanks ) http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 --- wrote: > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:21:56 +0100 > From: " \) " <firesprite68@...> > Subject: struggling > > It's not that I can't abstain from avoids but after being vegetarian > for 14 yrs I am really not enjoying meat. > I never really liked meat as a child, It was more a texture than a > taste to me, the only meats I enjoyed were chicken and lamb. > I am squeamish over bits of fat, grisle, stringy bits, bone etc. etc. > and it is actually a struggle now to eat beef at all as I just don't > like it and am not far off gagging if I try and make myself eat it. > I'm not saying that all my meat has all the above bits in it but > every so often I will get some good quality beef sausages and > sometimes you get a tiny hard bit in them and that is enough to turn > me right off them. Or when I cook chicken, there are stringy bits as > you take it apart or eat a leg and I just can't eat anymore then. > I've been trying to shut-up and give myself time to get used to it > but am finding it hard, coupled with that all the ethical reasons why > I went veggie in the first place and I still believe them and it is > hard to marry it all together. > Any ideas ? > Unfortunately I can't afford organic so I know darn well my meat did > suffer as an animal and it was probably not grassfed anyway. > > ) > > http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 In a message dated 6/7/2005 12:02:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mtnmusicmama@... writes: Don't eat beef if you dont want to. Stick with lamb or whatever appeals. IMHO if you're a slender, healthy person, you can pretty much follow the diet as a loose guideline. But if you want to regain your health or lose weight, you need to cram your diet with beneficials. Beef is a beneficial red meat and, like lamb, is really good for you. Most of the protein/fat sources you mentioned are neutrals for Os. I agree with you that it is more important to remove the avoid foods but to really bolster your immune system and feel in optimum health, beneficial protein/fat sources are essential. You need to eat the right foods to rebuild your immune system. The older you get or the sicker you are the more important it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 > It's not that I can't abstain from avoids but after being vegetarian for 14 yrs I am really not enjoying meat. I, too, was a long time vegetarian. I'm married to an A and both our children are A's, so the pesco-vegetarian diet (vegetarian diet plus fish) has suited them very well. My opposition to meat started out as outrage at the apparent waste of feeding grain to cattle and the suffering associated with industrial farming. I thought grass-fed was a good alternative, but a closer look revealed a host of environmental concerns. I still don't eat beef. One very important thing I found as I tried to follow ER4YT as best as I could was that as I stopped eating wheat & corn and cut my potato & dairy consumption way back, I began liking foods such as salmon that previously didn't appeal to me. I still adore tofu but now recognize the stress my body feels when I eat too much of it. I eat a lot more eggs and fish than I used to. Fish is difficult because after taking into account O avoids, A avoids, mercury threats, environmental concerns and local availability, my family is pretty much down to Wild Salmon, Tilapia, Pacific Cod, Tongol Tuna, and Wild Trout. I've been negotiating with my husband about adding turkey. He's starting to warm up to the idea of Wild Turkey. I think the important things are to get the wheat out of your life and try to get connected to your food source. Maybe you could try and find a specific organic farmer to buy your meat from. Visit the place. Talk to the farmer their philosphy. Don't eat beef if you dont want to. Stick with lamb or whatever appeals. That's my opinion, anyway. -Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Thanks Robin and all else who have answered, It's good to hear from another long-term veggie's perspective. It's marrying up my ethical beliefs and cares with the diet and that is a mental thing. I have been reviewing and trying to 'look in from the outside' at my eating habits also and I think that when I am not sure about do's and don't's I keep things very restricted and because of time constraints and stresses of the moment, things are staying that way which means very little variety for me. Thankyou for being 'so understanding' to an ex-veggie Viking ;o) I will review and put up a list somewhere of all the beneficials available over here to jog my memory I think. I am somewhat restricted as we only have one supermarket anywhere near us and as they have no competition they are a little slack. Internet is always an option but buying from specialists over the web pushes up cost a lot and we are at the stage where we have three teenagers eating us out of house and home and another close on their heels and one who is not a big eater. Thanks folks. ) http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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