Lab results

[Guest guest]

Joe my Ferritin was below the normal range and my Iron levels were OK but from

what I know about this if your Ferritin levels are low you need Iron pills.

Here is a link to Hypopituitary Problem the forum is closed but the site if full

of info about Pituitary Problems the guy that did work helped me a lot.

Read all the links in this it will help you understand this Problem.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewforum.php?f=12

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: noonanjg <jgnoonan@...>

> Subject: Re: Lab Results

>

> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 6:52 PM

> Phil:  Thanks for the

> info.  My estradiol levels were not tested, but based

> on the dosage I am taking I am getting solid night time and

> morning erections so I think I am good there.  Will

> have it tested next time to confirm.

>

> I guess the thing that bothers me is that I don't feel

> anything from the shots anymore.  I feel the same way

> back on them as I do when I missed the week.  I am

> tired all the time.  I am leaning towards the adrenal

> fatigue that you talked about.

>

> The other thing is that my current doctor is treating

> symptoms.  Low Thyroid, give synthroid, low T give

> testosterone.  She has done some testing to rule out

> things like a prolactinoma, but she has not done

> comprehensive testing to identify if this is a functional or

> non-function adenoma.  She did order, and I just took,

> a HG suppression test and a glucose tolerance test. 

> She also mentioned the cortisol saliva test as well, but

> hasn't ordered it yet.  I will pick up the item you

> mentioned below and test it myself.  It seems to me

> that the pituitary gland has a set of functions, and there

> are a range of tests to determine the state of those

> functions.  She done some, but not all, and some

> results are inferred.  I did electronics and software

> testing for years and you have to approach systems testing

> in a methodical fashion and I don't think she has done

> that.

>

> I did get an appointment with a pituitary specialist at

> Yale (one of his specialties is treating adults with Growth

> Hormone) and he has experience treating hypogonadal

> males.  I am going to bring Dr. 's treatise with me

> and ask him to read it and also render an opinion on what he

> sees based on the results so far.  You mention ferritin

> levels, and mine were low yet my serum iron was high. 

> She had no answer for that and said we'll have to retest it

> because it must be a fluke.  Yet it seems that as you

> point out, it is connected to the whole thing yet she was

> not up on it and didn't seem concerned.

>

> Thanks again for the info.  I will order the kit and

> bring Dr. 's doc with me to this new doctor.

>

> Regards,

>

> Joe

>

>

> >

> > > From: noonanjg <jgnoonan@...>

> > > Subject: Lab Results

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 9:08 PM

> > > I tried to post this last night but

> > > it never showed up on the list.  In any case, I

> went to

> > > my endo yesterday and got a lot of surprises. 

> After

> > > missing just one shot, my T levels fell through

> the

> > > floor.  My doctor was stunned at the results. 

> I

> > > am also taking arimidex which had raised my T by

> over 200

> > > points to 900 for total.  Here are the results

> of the

> > > key tests:

> > >

> > > T Total       

> > >    217 

> > >    (250-1100)  LOW

> > > T Free            52.6 

> > >   (46-224)    LOW NORMAL

> > > T BIOAV       

> > >    101.3   (110-575)   LOW

> > > SHBG             

> > > 13      (9-45)  THIS HASN " T CHANGE

> > > EVER!

> > > Albumin       

> > >    4.2 

> > >    (3.6-5.1)   Normal

> > > IGF-1         

> > >    244     (86-220) 

> > >   HIGH

> > > Cortisol Urine    59.5   

> > > (4.0-50)    HIGH

> > > Creatinine Urine  4.01g   (0.63-2.50)

> > > HIGH

> > >

> > > My hematocrit was also high, although barely. 

> My

> > > doctor is at a loss at this point and want me to

> get another

> > > doctor to look at my case because she does not

> understand

> > > why I am still feeling fatigued.  I don't even

> feel the

> > > T shots anymore.  It's like getting injected

> with

> > > water.  THe week I missed the shot felt the same

> as

> > > when I did have the shot.  I am on 150mg a

> week! 

> > > I am going to look for another doctor who has

> more

> > > experience in TRT and pituitary issues (I have

> an

> > > adenoma).  She sent me today for a glucose

> tolerance

> > > test and a GH suppression test.  The MRI also

> showed I

> > > had a tiny stroke, which I was not aware of. 

> Any

> > > insight would be appreciated.  She wants to

> retest T

> > > levels in 2 weeks once I've been getting the

> shots again

> > > (got one last week, will get one tomorrow).

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Joe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

 

Hi Amy, You are too fixated on treating the symptoms and not concentrating on

removing the cause of the disease.  The symptoms will come and go until all the

bugs are gone.  And that can only be achieved with doing the antibiotic

protocol.  The purpose for taking the antibiotic protocol is to weaken

the bacteria/virus so that the immune system will regain its' strengthen and do

the work.of killing the bugs.  By using Plaquenil & Prednisone you are further

depleting the Immune system. By relying on Plaquenil & Prednisone, you are

stretching the problem and may never get to remission that way.  Reaccess your

priorities for better results.  Dolores

From: Amy and Jay Willis <tknbychance26@...>

Subject: rheumatic Lab Results

dermatomyositissupport , OurMyositis ,

lupies , rheumatic

Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 4:07 PM

 

Ok, so according to the uneducated nurse to called to give me my CT date and

time, my myositis test was positive and my SLE test that was positive the first

time was negative this time. I have an appointment for my CT next week and with

my rheumatologist in September.

Now, I am on Plaquenil 400 mg and Prednisone 20mg daily, is there anything I

should be asking about? The muscle weakness isn't as bad as it was but I can

feel it coming back. I can feel the rash coming back on my scalp but not on my

chest. The chest pain has eased up but the muscle cramps came back last night. I

think it's because 1.) I missed my supplements yesterday and 2.) I had a mental

meltdown last night.

Amy

[Guest guest]

Amy was your ana or anti dna test for lupus positive. I ask because my ana was

positive but anti dna was negative and they said no lupus in October. I am

retesting these test soon.

________________________________

From: Amy and Jay Willis <tknbychance26@...>

dermatomyositissupport ; OurMyositis ;

lupies ; rheumatic

Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 3:07:34 PM

Subject: rheumatic Lab Results

 

Ok, so according to the uneducated nurse to called to give me my CT date and

time, my myositis test was positive and my SLE test that was positive the first

time was negative this time. I have an appointment for my CT next week and with

my rheumatologist in September.

Now, I am on Plaquenil 400 mg and Prednisone 20mg daily, is there anything I

should be asking about? The muscle weakness isn't as bad as it was but I can

feel it coming back. I can feel the rash coming back on my scalp but not on my

chest. The chest pain has eased up but the muscle cramps came back last night. I

think it's because 1.) I missed my supplements yesterday and 2.) I had a mental

meltdown last night.

Amy

[Guest guest]

I know they tested ANA first and it was positive, I'm not sure what test they

did this time. All he said was my SLE test was negative where it was positive

the first time.

Amy

________________________________

From: karen chatman <karenchatman@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 6:18:10 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Lab Results

Amy was your ana or anti dna test for lupus positive. I ask because my ana was

positive but anti dna was negative and they said no lupus in October. I am

retesting these test soon.

________________________________

From: Amy and Jay Willis <tknbychance26@...>

dermatomyositissupport ; OurMyositis ;

lupies ; rheumatic

Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 3:07:34 PM

Subject: rheumatic Lab Results

Ok, so according to the uneducated nurse to called to give me my CT date and

time, my myositis test was positive and my SLE test that was positive the first

time was negative this time. I have an appointment for my CT next week and with

my rheumatologist in September.

Now, I am on Plaquenil 400 mg and Prednisone 20mg daily, is there anything I

should be asking about? The muscle weakness isn't as bad as it was but I can

feel it coming back. I can feel the rash coming back on my scalp but not on my

chest. The chest pain has eased up but the muscle cramps came back last night. I

think it's because 1.) I missed my supplements yesterday and 2.) I had a mental

meltdown last night.

Amy

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been on this program for about 3 months now and am doing great. While

I have some unpleasant detoxing symptoms, in general I feel more normal than I

have in years. Recently, I had to have some lab work done for insurance

purposes through my work. The results showed that my AST and ALT, which I

learned have to do with liver enzymes, are significantly elevated. I am

thinking that this is connected to my increased intake of good fats. What do

you think? And should I be concerned about these numbers being elevated?

+++Hi ,

It is very common for people on this program to have higher liver enzymes

because the liver is one of the major organs responsible for detoxifying your

body.

Yes, it is connected to the increased good fats, since those good fats along

with the rest of the program, are so very important for liver health, so they

actually make the liver more able to detoxify like it should.

In order to help your liver do coffee enemas:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/enema1.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to tell me

that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back as -3.15

log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite know what it

meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa

Eva

[Guest guest]

yes it it a good thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Eva

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:39 PM

Subject: [ ] Lab results

Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to

tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back

as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite

know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa

Eva

[Guest guest]

wonderfull news Eva I'm very happy for you

Esther

>

> Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to tell

me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back as

-3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite know what

it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa

> Eva

>

>

[Guest guest]

O!!! YIPPEEE!!!

Zavie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Eva

Sent: January-06-11 4:39 PM

Subject: [ ] Lab results

Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to

tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back

as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite

know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa

Eva

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all the congrats . My previous tests were -1.87 . And then -2.09

.. And now -3.15. I am on 100 mg Sprycel and was diagnosed in March of 08. I

have been on Sprycel for a year.

Eva xo

From: Zavie

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:30 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Lab results

O!!! YIPPEEE!!!

Zavie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Eva

Sent: January-06-11 4:39 PM

Subject: [ ] Lab results

Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to

tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back

as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite

know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa

Eva

[Guest guest]

That's a lie ...LOL I have been on Sprycel since June 09 !!! And I have a

really bad memory!!!

Eva

From: Eva

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Lab results

Thank you for all the congrats . My previous tests were -1.87 . And then -2.09 .

And now -3.15. I am on 100 mg Sprycel and was diagnosed in March of 08. I have

been on Sprycel for a year.

Eva xo

From: Zavie

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:30 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Lab results

O!!! YIPPEEE!!!

Zavie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Eva

Sent: January-06-11 4:39 PM

Subject: [ ] Lab results

Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to

tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back

as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite

know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa

Eva

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam so much. I will try and supplement 10,000 a day of vit D. I haven't

heard people raise their numbers much on 5,000. I had a positive ANA test

recently and need to be tested for lyme and infections as well. I do have the

hair loss and cold hands, feet, energy, depression, thought it was thyroid. I'm

sure my liver needs help and will try some dmg, milk thistle, etc. My liver

enzymes were not elevated in Jan.

Is the doctor's data iodine test kit reputable?

Thanks again,

>

> >

> >

> > Just wondering if anyone could give some thoughts on these labs, I am

> > waiting on a doctors data iodine kit(my doc recommended). I don't take any

> > meds yet but have some hypothyroid symptoms.

> >

> > Thanks in advance. Would appreciate any thoughts on what supps, I can start

> > also. Still having hair loss issues, my hair is very thin now, have mercury

> > fillings still.

> >

> > TSH- 1.76 (.4-4.5)

> > T4 Total 10.3 (4.5-12.0)

> > FREE T3 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > Reverse T3 30 (11-32)

> >

> > Vit. D Low 29 (30-100)

> > Ferritin 32 (10-154)

> > Fibrinogen 338

> > Alpha II Antiplasmin 131

> > Protein C Activity 146

> > Protein S acttivity 74

> > Lipoprotein 54

> >

> > J.

> >

> > PS- Background is, I took a product in Aug,(when hair loss started) called

> > thyro-balance(has iodine in it) and was using selenium too. I did not know

> > the iodine protocol then.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If your iron is low, thyroid hormones cannot enter the cells and you

will feel hypo... which can affect sleep issues.

laura

On 4/15/2011 3:57 PM, Pamela Valley wrote:

 

Your vitamin D3 is pretty low. 60-80 is the recommended

range by 15 researchers in the vitamin D counsil. That

would prevent 8 types of cancer and MS and possibly RA. I

was at 13 which is bottom 1%, 4 years ago and just finally

got to 59 by taking 10,000 a day at my dr insistence. That

or a weekly shot.

Ferritin is pretty low which must make sleep iffy and

low energy during the day. Standard Process Ferrofood

tends to help me with that. 

Your reverse T3 may indicate that you need to support

your liver. DMG, TMG and the metagenics ultra ph shake

and advaclear capsules helped me to heal my liver

enzymes. They were sky high 4 years ago from blockage

and 2 surgeries to fix that. Left my liver crabby. Now

my liver is totally healthy which healed up gout

completely. When it was worse gave me dizziness ten

times a day, yellow skin and eyes and just stopped

eating. Not fun then it was swollen and pushing my ribs

out of place for couple of years. Not fun either. Sick

liver also added 45 pounds. Now I am 93 pounds lighter

and HS weight again. 

Hope this helps. Pam

Ranges on last 5 tests may help someone give ideas

for those.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:25

AM, laura19982005 <laura19982005@...>

wrote:

 

Just wondering if anyone could give some

thoughts on these labs, I am waiting on a

doctors data iodine kit(my doc

recommended). I don't take any meds yet

but have some hypothyroid symptoms.

Thanks in advance. Would appreciate any

thoughts on what supps, I can start also.

Still having hair loss issues, my hair is

very thin now, have mercury fillings

still.

TSH- 1.76 (.4-4.5)

T4 Total 10.3 (4.5-12.0)

FREE T3 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

Reverse T3 30 (11-32)

Vit. D Low 29 (30-100)

Ferritin 32 (10-154)

Fibrinogen 338

Alpha II Antiplasmin 131

Protein C Activity 146

Protein S acttivity 74

Lipoprotein 54

J.

PS- Background is, I took a product in

Aug,(when hair loss started) called

thyro-balance(has iodine in it) and was

using selenium too. I did not know the

iodine protocol then.

[Guest guest]

How can I raise ferritin/iron?

> >

> > Just wondering if anyone could give some thoughts on these labs, I

> > am waiting on a doctors data iodine kit(my doc recommended). I

> > don't take any meds yet but have some hypothyroid symptoms.

> >

> > Thanks in advance. Would appreciate any thoughts on what supps, I

> > can start also. Still having hair loss issues, my hair is very

> > thin now, have mercury fillings still.

> >

> > TSH- 1.76 (.4-4.5)

> > T4 Total 10.3 (4.5-12.0)

> > FREE T3 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > Reverse T3 30 (11-32)

> >

> > Vit. D Low 29 (30-100)

> > Ferritin 32 (10-154)

> > Fibrinogen 338

> > Alpha II Antiplasmin 131

> > Protein C Activity 146

> > Protein S acttivity 74

> > Lipoprotein 54

> >

> > J.

> >

> > PS- Background is, I took a product in Aug,(when hair loss

> > started) called thyro-balance(has iodine in it) and was using

> > selenium too. I did not know the iodine protocol then.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was recommended to take Solgar's Gentle Iron - you can take at

least 4 a day, and it helps to take it with Vitamin C. But do not

take it at the same time as any thyroid hormone as it will bind to

in and not allow the thyroid to be digested. I have not had

digestion issues from it...

On 4/16/2011 6:47 PM, laura19982005 wrote:

How can I raise ferritin/iron?

> >

> > Just wondering if anyone could give some

thoughts on these labs, I

> > am waiting on a doctors data iodine kit(my doc

recommended). I

> > don't take any meds yet but have some

hypothyroid symptoms.

> >

> > Thanks in advance. Would appreciate any thoughts

on what supps, I

> > can start also. Still having hair loss issues,

my hair is very

> > thin now, have mercury fillings still.

> >

> > TSH- 1.76 (.4-4.5)

> > T4 Total 10.3 (4.5-12.0)

> > FREE T3 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > Reverse T3 30 (11-32)

> >

> > Vit. D Low 29 (30-100)

> > Ferritin 32 (10-154)

> > Fibrinogen 338

> > Alpha II Antiplasmin 131

> > Protein C Activity 146

> > Protein S acttivity 74

> > Lipoprotein 54

> >

> > J.

> >

> > PS- Background is, I took a product in Aug,(when

hair loss

> > started) called thyro-balance(has iodine in it)

and was using

> > selenium too. I did not know the iodine protocol

then.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The original poster did not have info on other iron levels, it would not be

prudent to advise iron supplementation based on a ferritin only lab. Iron can

inhibit thyroid meds absorption but it doesn't totally block it. When thyroid

meds are not able to enter the cells properly it can cause the meds to pool in

the blood and will actually cause symptoms of hyper. A ferritin of 32 without

the results of an iron panel and and CBC/diff is not necessarily indicative of

needing iron. Supplementing iron could actually be the wrong thing to do and

lead to more problems. Iodine, B vitamins, Vit C, trace minerals and spirulina

will help iron issues.

Linn

> > > >

> > > > Just wondering if anyone could give some thoughts on these labs, I

> > > > am waiting on a doctors data iodine kit(my doc recommended). I

> > > > don't take any meds yet but have some hypothyroid symptoms.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance. Would appreciate any thoughts on what supps, I

> > > > can start also. Still having hair loss issues, my hair is very

> > > > thin now, have mercury fillings still.

> > > >

> > > > TSH- 1.76 (.4-4.5)

> > > > T4 Total 10.3 (4.5-12.0)

> > > > FREE T3 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > > > Reverse T3 30 (11-32)

> > > >

> > > > Vit. D Low 29 (30-100)

> > > > Ferritin 32 (10-154)

> > > > Fibrinogen 338

> > > > Alpha II Antiplasmin 131

> > > > Protein C Activity 146

> > > > Protein S acttivity 74

> > > > Lipoprotein 54

> > > >

> > > > J.

> > > >

> > > > PS- Background is, I took a product in Aug,(when hair loss

> > > > started) called thyro-balance(has iodine in it) and was using

> > > > selenium too. I did not know the iodine protocol then.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just to clarify on what Lynn says... yes, it is true that you should

have an iron panel done to see what your saturation is and other

markers.

However, Iron only inhibits thyroid in the digestion process as it

binds to the thyroid hormone, so you do need to take it several

hours after taking thyroid medicines.

On the other hand, Iron is what ushers the T3 into each cell where

it can work its job on the cell. If you do not have enough iron

overall in your system, you will not be able to get any thyroid into

each cell period. It is the gate keeper of getting T3 through the

cell membrane.

So in the end, it is very important to know exactly where your iron

level is, but in my estimation, every woman who menstruates is

losing iron every month so the extreme caution about taking iron can

be a little over the top. Women need iron, and most of us do not

get enough. Just be cautious as too much of a good thing, iron, can

cause other problems.

T.

On 4/17/2011 4:25 AM, laura19982005 wrote:

I am original poster and I do not take thyroid meds. This

was the first time, I could get someone to run a FREE T3.

I had a CBC last April, no anemia. She did not run an iron

panel tho. I have had terrible hair loss and am looking to

fix it.

Now I am confused.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just wondering if anyone could

give some thoughts on these labs, I

> > > > > am waiting on a doctors data

iodine kit(my doc recommended). I

> > > > > don't take any meds yet but have

some hypothyroid symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance. Would

appreciate any thoughts on what supps, I

> > > > > can start also. Still having hair

loss issues, my hair is very

> > > > > thin now, have mercury fillings

still.

> > > > >

> > > > > TSH- 1.76 (.4-4.5)

> > > > > T4 Total 10.3 (4.5-12.0)

> > > > > FREE T3 3.2 (2.3-4.2)

> > > > > Reverse T3 30 (11-32)

> > > > >

> > > > > Vit. D Low 29 (30-100)

> > > > > Ferritin 32 (10-154)

> > > > > Fibrinogen 338

> > > > > Alpha II Antiplasmin 131

> > > > > Protein C Activity 146

> > > > > Protein S acttivity 74

> > > > > Lipoprotein 54

> > > > >

> > > > > J.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS- Background is, I took a

product in Aug,(when hair loss

> > > > > started) called thyro-balance(has

iodine in it) and was using

> > > > > selenium too. I did not know the

iodine protocol then.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>