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In a message dated 8/16/2002 1:44:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, taime@... writes:

getting 's tort dx. (4 months and 3 diff drs) He asked me if

ever had a vision test

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Some tort can be caused by vision impairment, if one eye is having vision problems, I'm told that they will use that tilted posture to compensate with the vision problems. I think your Doc MAY be mixing apples and oranges. If you definetly felt that the muscle was tight, your probably talking only muscular tort. Sometimes hip displasia causes tort, and they compensate their posture because of it. Has been going to pt? Has it helped? Is there any indication of a problem with her vision? He may be saying that since it was so hard to detect, the vision may be the underlying cause, and he may be right if you haven't seen results with pt. How old is again (11 mos.?)

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In a message dated 8/16/2002 2:36:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, taime@... writes:

Another member also suggested have her

vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then on

CPAP for over a week.

Oh I'm glad you mentioned this- I was going to post and totally forgot this came up. I think was telling you to get this done because of the oxygen level for preemies? Not to scare you with too much information, but I was watching a quip on Stevie Wonder and was surprised to learn that he actually lost his vision due to too much oxygen when he was a preemie! It can be very toxic if too much is used or something to that effect. If was a preemie, it would be a good idea to just get it checked out, if not just to rule this out. If her tort is resolved, I wonder if perhaps vision could be causing delays? Are you talking motor skills delays? I know some tort kids do not use that side of the body, and have balance issues. Is this what's going on?

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Hi All,

At the new dr yesterday I was telling him what a hard time I had

getting 's tort dx. (4 months and 3 diff drs) He asked me if

ever had a vision test. I said no why, he said b/c it's

ususally a good idea to check the vision of a baby that has had/has

tort. Anyone ():o) ever hear of this?

Thanks,

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Hi ,

was in physical therapy for 3 months X 2x a week. She's

getting PT now..for the next 6 months through early intervention b/c

she is delayed in her fine and gross motor skills.

Her tort is resolved. Yea!!! It wasn't b/c her tort was hard to

detect, it's that the drs were WRONG! I knew from the time she came

home from the NICU that something was wrong! I was told twice " it

isn't what you think it is' But I knew what it was. These LI doctors

just don't have a clue! Another member also suggested have her

vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then on

CPAP for over a week.

I guess at her next well baby check up, I'll ask about it.

Thanks,

> In a message dated 8/16/2002 1:44:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> taime@o... writes:

>

>

> > getting 's tort dx. (4 months and 3 diff drs) He asked me

if

> > ever had a vision test

>

> ,

> Some tort can be caused by vision impairment, if one eye is having

vision

> problems, I'm told that they will use that tilted posture to

compensate with

> the vision problems. I think your Doc MAY be mixing apples and

oranges. If

> you definetly felt that the muscle was tight, your probably talking

only

> muscular tort. Sometimes hip displasia causes tort, and they

compensate

> their posture because of it. Has been going to pt? Has it

helped?

> Is there any indication of a problem with her vision? He may be

saying that

> since it was so hard to detect, the vision may be the underlying

cause, and

> he may be right if you haven't seen results with pt. How old is

again

> (11 mos.?)

>

> ' Mom

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Our specialist automatically ordered an appointment with an eye doctor when he

diagnosed plagio. He said there was often a condition called " vision field

neglect " present in plagio babies. did not have this, but we did go to the

appointment with the specialist. also did not have tort.

Marci

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Hi ,

No, wasn't a preemie. I'm going to ask her ped about getting

her a vision test!! She has a delay in her fine motor skills and her

gross motor skills. She also has a problem with balance.

> In a message dated 8/16/2002 2:36:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> taime@o... writes:

>

>

> > Another member also suggested have her

> > vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then

on

> > CPAP for over a week.

> >

>

> Oh I'm glad you mentioned this- I was going to post and totally

forgot this

> came up. I think was telling you to get this done because

of the

> oxygen level for preemies? Not to scare you with too much

information, but I

> was watching a quip on Stevie Wonder and was surprised to learn

that he

> actually lost his vision due to too much oxygen when he was a

preemie! It

> can be very toxic if too much is used or something to that effect.

If

> was a preemie, it would be a good idea to just get it checked out,

if not

> just to rule this out. If her tort is resolved, I wonder if

perhaps vision

> could be causing delays? Are you talking motor skills delays? I

know some

> tort kids do not use that side of the body, and have balance

issues. Is this

> what's going on?

>

> ' Mom

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Marci,

Unfortunately isn't under a doctors care for her plagio. I'm

going by the expertise and advice of CT. I'm going to talk to

's ped and see what she thinks.

> ,

>

> Our specialist automatically ordered an appointment with an eye

doctor when he diagnosed plagio. He said there was often a condition

called " vision field neglect " present in plagio babies. did not

have this, but we did go to the appointment with the specialist.

also did not have tort.

>

> Marci

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Oh my ...Lucas was a preemie and was on oxyen for 3 or 4 days. No one has ever mentioned this do I need to be concerned. He has both plagio and tort.

Caleb 2 and Lucas 6mths (soon to be in a starband)

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In a message dated 8/16/2002 2:36:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, taime@... writes:

Another member also suggested have her vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then on CPAP for over a week.Oh I'm glad you mentioned this- I was going to post and totally forgot this came up. I think was telling you to get this done because of the oxygen level for preemies? Not to scare you with too much information, but I was watching a quip on Stevie Wonder and was surprised to learn that he actually lost his vision due to too much oxygen when he was a preemie! It can be very toxic if too much is used or something to that effect. If was a preemie, it would be a good idea to just get it checked out, if not just to rule this out. If her tort is resolved, I wonder if perhaps vision could be causing delays? Are you talking motor skills delays? I know some tort kids do not use that side of the body, and have balance issues. Is this what's going on?' MomFor more plagio info

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Hi ,

I really don't know if you should be concerned or not. I'm going to

mention it to my NEW ped and see what he has to say, I'll probably

ask to have a vision test done,just to err on the side of caution!

I'd rather be safe than sorry!

> Oh my ...Lucas was a preemie and was on oxyen for 3 or 4 days. No

one has ever mentioned this do I need to be concerned. He has both

plagio and tort.

>

> Caleb 2 and Lucas 6mths (soon to be in a starband)

>

> Re: Torticollis and vision

>

>

> In a message dated 8/16/2002 2:36:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

taime@o... writes:

>

>

>

> Another member also suggested have her

> vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then

on

> CPAP for over a week.

>

>

>

> Oh I'm glad you mentioned this- I was going to post and totally

forgot this came up. I think was telling you to get this done

because of the oxygen level for preemies? Not to scare you with too

much information, but I was watching a quip on Stevie Wonder and was

surprised to learn that he actually lost his vision due to too much

oxygen when he was a preemie! It can be very toxic if too much is

used or something to that effect. If was a preemie, it would

be a good idea to just get it checked out, if not just to rule this

out. If her tort is resolved, I wonder if perhaps vision could be

causing delays? Are you talking motor skills delays? I know some

tort kids do not use that side of the body, and have balance issues.

Is this what's going on?

>

> ' Mom

>

>

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Okay how do they do a vision test on a 6mth old. He seems to track well with eyes, but I remember it seemed like it was a little late in Lucas being able to do that well.

Re: Torticollis and vision> > > In a message dated 8/16/2002 2:36:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, taime@o... writes:> > > > Another member also suggested have her > vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then on > CPAP for over a week.> > > > Oh I'm glad you mentioned this- I was going to post and totally forgot this came up. I think was telling you to get this done because of the oxygen level for preemies? Not to scare you with too much information, but I was watching a quip on Stevie Wonder and was surprised to learn that he actually lost his vision due to too much oxygen when he was a preemie! It can be very toxic if too much is used or something to that effect. If was a preemie, it would be a good idea to just get it checked out, if not just to rule this out. If her tort is resolved, I wonder if perhaps vision could be causing delays? Are you talking motor skills delays? I know some tort kids do not use that side of the body, and have balance issues. Is this what's going on?> > ' Mom> >

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I don't have any idea! LOL

Sorry, I'm just as stumped as you are. Hopefully someone that knows

will fill us in!

> > Oh my ...Lucas was a preemie and was on oxyen for 3 or 4 days. No

> one has ever mentioned this do I need to be concerned. He has both

> plagio and tort.

> >

> > Caleb 2 and Lucas 6mths (soon to be in a starband)

> >

> > Re: Torticollis and vision

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2002 2:36:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> taime@o... writes:

> >

> >

> >

> > Another member also suggested have her

> > vision tested b/c she was put on a respirator at birth and then

> on

> > CPAP for over a week.

> >

> >

> >

> > Oh I'm glad you mentioned this- I was going to post and totally

> forgot this came up. I think was telling you to get this

done

> because of the oxygen level for preemies? Not to scare you with

too

> much information, but I was watching a quip on Stevie Wonder and

was

> surprised to learn that he actually lost his vision due to too much

> oxygen when he was a preemie! It can be very toxic if too much is

> used or something to that effect. If was a preemie, it

would

> be a good idea to just get it checked out, if not just to rule this

> out. If her tort is resolved, I wonder if perhaps vision could be

> causing delays? Are you talking motor skills delays? I know some

> tort kids do not use that side of the body, and have balance

issues.

> Is this what's going on?

> >

> > ' Mom

> >

> >

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In a message dated 8/19/2002 12:47:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, aleys@... writes:

Oh my ...Lucas was a preemie and was on oxyen for 3 or 4 days. No one has ever mentioned this do I need to be concerned.

,

I really don't know anything about this- I was just commenting on Stevie Wonder's dilemma- I don't know how much oxygen was too much or how exactly he was exposed to it. It sure wouldn't hurt to ask your ped about this, especially as your other post said he was a little late with tracking. I don't know how well other than tracking they can determine vision, but I would think better safe than sorry too. Didn't mean to panic you!

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In a message dated 8/16/2002 4:10:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, taime@... writes:

Does she favor using the non-tort side? Totally!!

,

Work on making her use that tort side with her arms, legs- have reach high up with her tort sided arm, and make sure when crawling she's pushing that leg forward- try helping her if its dragging. If I can help with any tips, please let me know.

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In a message dated 8/16/2002 5:47:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marcisch@... writes:

He said that babies with plagio often "neglect" one side or the other as far as vision goes. You can wave something around on the right side and then on the left and see if your baby notices it on one side and not the other.

Marci,

Thanks for elaborating on this for me- I have always heard that plagio may cause vision problems, but I never knew how/why, just assumed since the back of the head is responsible for vision, flatness may have damaged something. This sounds much less worrisome! Thanks!

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In a message dated 8/19/2002 10:48:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, aleys@... writes:

I took Lucas for his 6mth check up last week and the Dr made it obvious she didnt agree with what we were doing but she didnt say she would not give the referalls for EI either.

,

Hang in there, and push for any referral you feel is necessary. My Doc was the exact same, not with us, but not against us either, so she wrote the rx for the DOC band. Does she not want to give the referral for pt for tort?

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indy,

No you didnt really panic me. I am just soooo frustrated with everything concerning the palgio. I took Lucas for his 6mth check up last week and the Dr made it obvious she didnt agree with what we were doing but she didnt say she would not give the referalls for EI either. I just wish she was more supportive, up unitl now she has been the best Ped.

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In a message dated 8/19/2002 12:47:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, aleys@... writes:

Oh my ...Lucas was a preemie and was on oxyen for 3 or 4 days. No one has ever mentioned this do I need to be concerned. ,I really don't know anything about this- I was just commenting on Stevie Wonder's dilemma- I don't know how much oxygen was too much or how exactly he was exposed to it. It sure wouldn't hurt to ask your ped about this, especially as your other post said he was a little late with tracking. I don't know how well other than tracking they can determine vision, but I would think better safe than sorry too. Didn't mean to panic you!' MomFor more plagio info

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What I'm just starting to realize is, as long as you agree w/your ped

everything is fine. The minute you disagree and want to do something

more to help your child (banding/PT/OT and so on) or request a

referral for something you feel strongly about, but the ped

disagrees, you have a problem! In my opinion if you have to " fight "

for what you want for your child,than you don't have the support of

your ped. Why go to a dr that can't be supportive?

Just my 2 cents!

> indy,

> No you didnt really panic me. I am just soooo frustrated with

everything concerning the palgio. I took Lucas for his 6mth check up

last week and the Dr made it obvious she didnt agree with what we

were doing but she didnt say she would not give the referalls for EI

either. I just wish she was more supportive, up unitl now she has

been the best Ped.

> Re: Torticollis and vision

>

>

> In a message dated 8/19/2002 12:47:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

aleys@t... writes:

>

>

>

> Oh my ...Lucas was a preemie and was on oxyen for 3 or 4 days. No

one has ever mentioned this do I need to be concerned.

>

>

> ,

> I really don't know anything about this- I was just commenting on

Stevie Wonder's dilemma- I don't know how much oxygen was too much or

how exactly he was exposed to it. It sure wouldn't hurt to ask your

ped about this, especially as your other post said he was a little

late with tracking. I don't know how well other than tracking they

can determine vision, but I would think better safe than sorry too.

Didn't mean to panic you!

>

> ' Mom

>

>

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