Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Thank you. geordie90631 wrote: > Hi, no Gluten. I think it says Gluten Free on the label. > Jules > > > > I've noticed that several of you have mentioned using Primal > Defense for > > your kids. When I read the ingredients, it looks like it has > gluten in > > it. Does anyone know if that is true? and those of you that use > it, are > > you on or off the GFCF diet? Thanks! > > > > Sharon > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Hi, no Gluten. I think it says Gluten Free on the label. Jules > I've noticed that several of you have mentioned using Primal Defense for > your kids. When I read the ingredients, it looks like it has gluten in > it. Does anyone know if that is true? and those of you that use it, are > you on or off the GFCF diet? Thanks! > > Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 >>>> I've noticed that several of you have mentioned using Primal Defense for your kids. When I read the ingredients, it looks like it has gluten in it. Does anyone know if that is true? Sharon, That is right, it has no gluten. It has wheat grass, right? and maybe some other grasses. Grass doesn't have gluten. By definition, gluten is part of the seed head or grain. None in the grass part. Those are two completely different botanical compositions. You can remember it this way, if you can't eat wheat, barley, rye or oat grass, then you couldn't eat any other green vegetable either. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I use the powdered form. The container states " gluten free " . Primal Defense > I've noticed that several of you have mentioned using Primal Defense for > your kids. When I read the ingredients, it looks like it has gluten in > it. Does anyone know if that is true? and those of you that use it, are > you on or off the GFCF diet? Thanks! > > Sharon > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Thank you. I just purchased some yesterday and was pleased to see that it is gluten and dairy free. We're going to try it and see what kind of results we get. Sharon dhooten wrote: > I use the powdered form. The container states " gluten free " . > > > Primal Defense > > > I've noticed that several of you have mentioned using Primal Defense for > > your kids. When I read the ingredients, it looks like it has gluten in > > it. Does anyone know if that is true? and those of you that use it, are > > you on or off the GFCF diet? Thanks! > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 my son is 3 yrs 9 months old. we gave one capsule of primal defense on an empty stomach and gradually moved up to 2 capsules on an empty stomach. we have seen awesome stools since taking it along with already taking the houston enzymes. i have heard primal defense's success with our kids is 50/50. they either do good or bad on this supplement. generally there is no in between. good luck. kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 I started my son on the Primal Defense when he was about 44 months old. He did fine. Actually, I give him about five of those scoops, heaping full. Primal Defense played a huge role in turning my son around. It also caused him to regress big time when I stupidly took him off of Primal Defense for about three weeks because a DAN doctor said to take him off it while getting several tests done. Primal Defense For anyone, I have a question about Garden of Life's Primal Defense. I bought it for my daughter because the label said safe for all ages, but when I emailed their customer service dept. to ask about the dosage for a three year old, they said they do not recommend for children under 4. My daughter is 3yrs, 4months old. Has anyone given this to their child around my daughter's age, and if so at what dosage. Right now, she is getting one capsule of Culterelle per day and HNI Enzymes. And I am taking the Primal Defense, thought what the heck, maybe it will do something good for me. If anyone has an answer I would be most grateful if you would share, Sincerely, Lesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 I wouldn't doubt it, Primal Defense is powerful stuff, people usually have to take it very slow with that. I get irritable from it, but i know it is doing some powerful detoxing. >Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is >causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and >am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, >not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you >think? > >Carla > -- Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever @..@ (----) ( >__< ) Ribbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 my son did, i am trying to remember what the problem swas, i believe it was milk based [ ] Primal Defense Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you think? Carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 A while back I was looking into Primal Defense for my daughter. I read many things and posts from people that stated if your child or self had " gut " issues, it seemed to aggravate them and didn't work very well. If you had minimal to no " gut " issues, it seemed to work wonders for those kids. Go figure. My daughter has " gut " probs so I never tried it. Karyn [ ] Primal Defense Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you think? Carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 My child has gut issues and it has been a great help. He has chronic colitis by the way... Sharon > A while back I was looking into Primal Defense for my daughter. I read many things and posts from people that stated if your child or self had " gut " issues, it seemed to aggravate them and didn't work very well. If you had minimal to no " gut " issues, it seemed to work wonders for those kids. Go figure. My daughter has " gut " probs so I never tried it. > > Karyn > [ ] Primal Defense > > > Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you think? > > Carla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 In what ways have you seen improvement? How much do you give? How long have you been using it? Like I said, I looked into but saw too many posts about it making thier kids worse, so I never tried. I'm one of those 8 out of 10 people, if 8 out of 10 have good results I usually will give something a shot. At the time I looked into Primal Defense, it wasn't an 8 out of 10 option. I have however, been looking at it again. She's been chelating for a year, and has been on enzymes and the diet for a year as well. Our biggest gut issue is yeast, do you feel (if your child has yeast probs) that this has been helpful? Karyn My child has gut issues and it has been a great help. He has chronic colitis by the way... Sharon > A while back I was looking into Primal Defense for my daughter. I read many things and posts from people that stated if your child or self had " gut " issues, it seemed to aggravate them and didn't work very well. If you had minimal to no " gut " issues, it seemed to work wonders for those kids. Go figure. My daughter has " gut " probs so I never tried it. > > Karyn > [ ] Primal Defense > > > Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you think? > > Carla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 It sounds like die off reactions to me. That means it is doing some good. Jennfer Ruston, Louisiana Re: [ ] Primal Defense I wouldn't doubt it, Primal Defense is powerful stuff, people usually have to take it very slow with that. I get irritable from it, but i know it is doing some powerful detoxing. >Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is >causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and >am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, >not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you >think? > >Carla > -- Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever @..@ (----) ( >__< ) Ribbit ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 If you want another testimony..... We use this product as well. When we started it, he was talking in one day. It killed lots of yeast, he was urinating through all his diapers, and started sleeping through the night. This was the very first medical intervention I tried, and what lit my fire back in April to treat Devon medically. The benefits we saw convinced us to go against what the doctors were telling us, and do it anyway. I have taken a short rest from it, and plan to purchase more this month. I have seen with Devon that rotating probiotics is very effective, so we use 3-4 brands. Re: [ ] Re: Primal Defense In what ways have you seen improvement? How much do you give? How long have you been using it? Like I said, I looked into but saw too many posts about it making thier kids worse, so I never tried. I'm one of those 8 out of 10 people, if 8 out of 10 have good results I usually will give something a shot. At the time I looked into Primal Defense, it wasn't an 8 out of 10 option. I have however, been looking at it again. She's been chelating for a year, and has been on enzymes and the diet for a year as well. Our biggest gut issue is yeast, do you feel (if your child has yeast probs) that this has been helpful? Karyn My child has gut issues and it has been a great help. He has chronic colitis by the way... Sharon > A while back I was looking into Primal Defense for my daughter. I read many things and posts from people that stated if your child or self had " gut " issues, it seemed to aggravate them and didn't work very well. If you had minimal to no " gut " issues, it seemed to work wonders for those kids. Go figure. My daughter has " gut " probs so I never tried it. > > Karyn > [ ] Primal Defense > > > Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you think? > > Carla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Karyn-- I'll give you my input on it too... My two boys do well on it also. They have multiple food allergies and one is autistic. I just give them one scoop a day. They are both in the 40 lb range. I have a friend that has yeast issues and she loves the product. She also gives it to her son and he does well on it. I guess you need to try it (start slow and work up). Buy it from a place that will let you return it if it does not work out-- it is pretty expensive, but it seems to last a long time since my boys only each get one scoop per day. [ ] Primal Defense > > > > > > Anyone had trouble using Primal Defense? I'm suspecting it is > causing irritibility in my son. I've only used it about 2 weeks and > am slowly built it up so we wouldn't see regression. He's just off, > not bad just off this week. Could it be that? If so, why do you > think? > > > > Carla > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I have a container of this in my fridge and wanted to know with a sensitive child(8, 75 pounds) what would be a good starting dose? Phyllis M. Kizner PMRSKizner@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Start out at a fraction of a scoop for a few days (maybe 1/4 or 1/2 scoop per day) and slowly work up. If you see problems with the amount you use, cut back even further. Re: [ ] Re: Primal Defense > I have a container of this in my fridge and wanted to know with a > sensitive child(8, 75 pounds) what would be a good starting dose? > > Phyllis M. Kizner > PMRSKizner@... > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 My son did horribly on Primal Defense. At first I thought it was die-off. After six weeks of him gradually getting worse and worse, I did some research on Primal Defense, then was kicking myself for not doing that research earlier. My very informal searches of PD showed me that roughly half of the reports I found from people who used it said they did wonderfully on it, but the other half did horribly on it. Obviously,my son fell into the latter category. One theory is that the chlorella in PD causes problems for kids who are mercury toxic. Whatever the reason, I stopped using PD on my son, and he very slowly got back to his previous level, except for one thing. His pupils became dilated when using PD for the first time ever. This was nearly two years ago, and they have never been perfectly normal since:( Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I did that and only got to 1/2 scoop with definite problems. I went slowly. Maybe he doesn't tolerate it. I'm just not sure why. I took it away for the last couple of days and things are almost back to normal. My gut says that if he regresses with it, then he probably needs it, but going this slowly I wasn't expecting him to have trouble with it. Carla Re: [ ] Re: Primal Defense > I have a container of this in my fridge and wanted to know with a > sensitive child(8, 75 pounds) what would be a good starting dose? > > Phyllis M. Kizner > PMRSKizner@... > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Thanks Sharon. I read that last post and thought I was crazy because I know I checked it for chlorella. We just started it with our 9 year old and have not seen anything yet - used a full scoop too for past 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 There's no chlorella in it any longer.. The ingredients in it are: HSO probiotic blend Poten-Zyme Superfood blend (dunaliella salina, barley grass juice, oat grass juice, yucca juice) ionic plant based minerals iron (fulvic acid source) If it had chlorella, I probably wouldn't have tried it in the first place. Sharon > My son did horribly on Primal Defense. At first I thought it was die-off. > After six weeks of him gradually getting worse and worse, I did some research on > Primal Defense, then was kicking myself for not doing that research earlier. > My very informal searches of PD showed me that roughly half of the reports I > found from people who used it said they did wonderfully on it, but the other > half did horribly on it. Obviously,my son fell into the latter category. One > theory is that the chlorella in PD causes problems for kids who are mercury toxic. > Whatever the reason, I stopped using PD on my son, and he very slowly got > back to his previous level, except for one thing. His pupils became dilated when > using PD for the first time ever. This was nearly two years ago, and they have > never been perfectly normal since:( > > Debbie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 I'm assuming the Primal Defense is GF/CF, correct??? Carla [ ] Re: Primal Defense There's no chlorella in it any longer.. The ingredients in it are: HSO probiotic blend Poten-Zyme Superfood blend (dunaliella salina, barley grass juice, oat grass juice, yucca juice) ionic plant based minerals iron (fulvic acid source) If it had chlorella, I probably wouldn't have tried it in the first place. Sharon > My son did horribly on Primal Defense. At first I thought it was die-off. > After six weeks of him gradually getting worse and worse, I did some research on > Primal Defense, then was kicking myself for not doing that research earlier. > My very informal searches of PD showed me that roughly half of the reports I > found from people who used it said they did wonderfully on it, but the other > half did horribly on it. Obviously,my son fell into the latter category. One > theory is that the chlorella in PD causes problems for kids who are mercury toxic. > Whatever the reason, I stopped using PD on my son, and he very slowly got > back to his previous level, except for one thing. His pupils became dilated when > using PD for the first time ever. This was nearly two years ago, and they have > never been perfectly normal since:( > > Debbie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 It is GFCF. Re: [ ] Re: Primal Defense > I'm assuming the Primal Defense is GF/CF, correct??? > Carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 , Thank you. Does the powder form also say to give on an empty stomach? We use the caplets. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Robin-- I actually give one scoop at lunch with my son's supplements and enzymes. It still seems to work this way. Primal Defense > Hello all, > > I need some help from those using Primal Defense, please. > > I can't seem to find a good time to give something on an empty stomach, which > is what is recommended. In the morning, we have enough time to eat to get > ready for school, not enough time to wait 30-60 minutes before eating. Then snack > after school, then dinner,etc. > > Does anyone give PD with food? I know Terri said to do it. I am curious about > the results for others, too. > > thank you, > Robin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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