Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 *Howdy y'all,** * *This is an advertisement .. and a post that will educate a lot of folks. The list owner is not responsible for any claims made in this advertisement or the outcome of any transactions made as a result of this advertisement, nor do she profit from it. All product claims and information contained in this advertisement are factual and made in good faith. I guarantee the quality and purity of what I sell and for close to 14 years now my word has been sufficient for those who know me. All correspondence in reply to this ad must be done off list.* *I can be contacted at: ButchOwen @ AV-AT .com .. or .. ButchOwen @ Gmail .com .. of course, you must close the spaces in those e-mail addresses .. I put them there because sometimes corrupts e-mail addresses.* * This post contains a Price List and it will explain why it is Very Necessary to test Hydrosols. We have been out of stock of ALL Hydrosols for some time now. If I had had 200 gallons of Rose Hydrosol I would have been able to sell it in a few months because I have Back Orders for way over 150 gallons already. But high quality Rose Hydrosol has been a tough one to get because it is produced but one time each year .. from late May through the latter part of June. I had been unable to get any Rose Hydrosol this year because (as was the case last year) there is a shortage and Turkish producers are selling theirs in country to the Retail stores .. Turks use a lot of Rose Hydrosol. But I will have Rose Hydrosol .. and other Hydrosols in the next 10 days There are many people on Back Order for all of them. More important is the question of WHY I was out of Hydrosols. It is not because there are none to be found. I could have purchased many Hydrosols from many sources. So why did I not do that? Below is a note I sent to a number of Major Hydrosol Producers .. a few of them replied and we ordered 16 oz bottles of various Hydrosols from those who did reply and sent the samples to the lab for testing. The fact that the other producers did NOT respond to my request tells me that they were not sure of their products and/or they were too greedy to spend the money needed to test them! I demand proven quality and I have always sold only proven quality products. Testing is important for Essential Oils but it is more than important for Hydrosols because they can become contaminated and if that happens the Hydrosol can be dangerous!! See the letter below .. and then below that .. see the results of the lab tests .. which we just received on 17 November .. and you will realize the importance of testing Hydrosols. The letter e-mail I sent to the producers is below: > Since 1995 I have tested our Hydrosols every 90 days at Superior > Labs, Inc., Galloway, Ohio ... which is an authorized testing agency > holding Ohio EPA Water Approval No. 890 and USDA Accreditation > 3983. The standard for drinking water is a Plate Count of bacteria > as high as 500 per 100 ml of pure water. Except for 6 occasions in all > those years, the highest plate count we had on any of our Hydrosols > was 27, which is FAR MORE PURE than even bottled drinking water. > > In all my time in Turkey, I had my own barrels produced new and > stamped with my seal .. that effort ensured no contamination. As you > well know, Hydrosols exit the still Sterile .. the only way they can > be contaminated prior to reaching an end user is through improper > storage (old barrels) or improper handling while being stored, or if > they are cut with water that was not distilled .. or distilled water > that was not properly stored. > > Three of those 6 occasions mentioned above were in 1996 when I > purchased three each different Hydrosols from the same foreign > producer. When they arrived I suspected that they would be > contaminated because it was obvious that the barrels were NOT > new barrels .. I was correct .. they were terribly contaminated > with bacteria. > > Of the other three bad results .. one was a short time ago when I > purchased a barrel of Lavender Hydrosol from someone .. the test > results were the worst I have ever seen .. I would have feared even > putting my hand in that Hydrosol. After some back and forth > discussion this seller finally, reluctantly, agreed to reimburse me .. > but they wanted the Hydrosol returned .. I paid the return freight .. > and .. they sold that contaminated Hydrosol. I will never purchase > from them again .. not because they had a contaminated Hydrosol .. > that can happen .. but because they did not care and allowed greed > to get in the way of safety and logic and good business sense. > > The other two bad results were our fault .. once during a move in > 1999, we stored our barrels in an area that obviously had some fungal > spores .. which, of course, were drawn into the barrels via the vacuum > when they were opened. We dumped all of those Hydrosols. > > I wish to purchase a large amount of the following Hydrosols .. some > may be from you: > > (List of Hydrosols Clipped) > > What I would want from you is a guarantee that if your Hydrosol tests > UNSAFE, you will allow me to return it to you and you will reimburse > me. An alternative would be for you to test your own Hydrosols and > provide a copy of the test to me. Later .. after sending this .. I decided to not gamble .. I purchased only 16 oz from those who replied and told them that if the Hydrosol tested well I would purchase more. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The laboratory test results were returned to us on 17 November 08 .. they are as follows. Keep in mind the following three points. 1. When a Hydrosol leaves the still it will be sterile. Only improper handling or storage .. or adulteration with water that was not distilled can contaminate a Hydrosol. 2. The Ohio State standard for bottled drinking water is Plate Count of bacteria no higher than 500 parts per million in 100 ml of pure water. 3. All of the Hydrosols below .. except the Sandalwood .. tested as being More Pure than bottled drinking water. Sample total plate total yeast mold count coliform count count Clary Sage ... 8 ............. <1 .......... 1 ......... 3 Peppermint ... 4 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... <1 Rosemary ... 1 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... <1 Lavender Bul ... 7 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... 1 ..... <1 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... <1 Lavender USA .. 10 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... <1 Rose ......... 4 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... <1 Sandalwood 22,000,000 ...... <1 .......... <1 ......... 1 Witch Hazel ...... 5 ............. <1 .......... <1 ......... 1 < means Less than 1* ** *Is the Plate Count in the Sandalwood extremely high? FOR SURE IT IS!! Is such a finding unusual? Sort of .. I have tested many Hydrosols that were worse. It does not take long for cultures of various bacteria to form.* ** *Could use of a preservative prevent Bacterial contamination? NO! It can only slow it down. The best way is to begin with a sterile product .. then contamination is not an issue unless the end user contaminates it. Besides that, use of a preservative WILL change the pH of a Hydrosol .. we conducted many such tests while in Turkey .. and that is when I decided to NEVER use a preservative and I have used none to date. If you want Hydrosols that contain preservatives then you should not purchase from me. * *If I had not sent these Hydrosols for testing prior to purchasing them I could have been selling Sandalwood Hydrosol that is HIGHLY Contaminated with who knows what type(s) of bacteria. I say who knows what type(s) because it would cost a lot more money to find out what type(s) and since I would not offer that Hydrosol in any case I don't care what the type(s) of bacterial contamination are. ;-) The Hydrosols will be available for sale in approximately 10 days. Prices will be: 1/2 gal 1 gal 8 oz 16 oz (4 lbs) (8 lbs) Clary Sage, USA 7.90 12.90 39.90 66.90 Lavender, Bulgaria 7.90 12.90 38.90 64.90 , USA 11.90 18.90 65.90 99.99 * Peppermint, USA 7.90 12.90 39.90 66.90 Rose, Turkish 8.90 13.90 48.90 79.90 Rosemary, USA 10.90 17.90 63.90 99.99 * Witch Hazel, USA 5.90 9.90 35.90 58.90 * Special Price on Gallons of and Rosemary Hydrosol. Sandalwood, Mysore .. Will NOT be offered now! Neroli can NOT be offered now! I have tested some and the results were almost as bad as the Sandalwood. I am still looking for Quality Sandalwood and Neroli Hydrosols. There are a large number of people on Back Order for Hydrosols now .. so if you wish to order you can place an advance order and I will hold it until the Hydrosols are in our hands. If your order, do not expect to hear back from me immediately .. it might be 48 hours or more before I contact you because: 1. I have notified all the people on the Back Order list and I am processing well over 100 of those orders now .. plus .. some of those people were members of an international News Group and when the word got out on that one .. I received over 80 more orders. ;-) 2. Tomorrow afternoon I will be going out to zero the scope on my new Remington Model 770 30.06 Rifle. Muzzle Loading deer season closed here 10 days or so ago .. Rifle season opens Saturday morning so at Zero Light Thirty on Saturday I will be freezing my butt off in a tree stand. If things go as they did the two times I went out during Muzzle Loading season, I'll be back home by noon .. with a nice buck .. then I will work on processing Hydrosol orders. ;-) None of us like to play e-mail ping pong .. especially when we are overwhelmed with work .. so .. when you order .. PLEASE .. I say PLEASE .. make sure to include the following information: 1. Your Full Name 2. A Complete Shipping Address .. Post Office Boxes are no good. The weight of almost any Hydrosol order requires it be shipped via the least costly method .. FedEx Ground. 3. A Telephone Number .. FedEx Ground will not take a shipment without one. Recommend you make your orders now .. I will confirm the order and lock you in for product. I can not know how long these products will be available ... there are MANY orders now. Have a nice day .. and keep smiling. :-) Butch ... **http://www.AV-AT.com* <http://www.av-at.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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