Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 You might want to find some raw goat milk, too. Usually children who have been diagnosed with failure to thrive do better on the goat milk than on the cow milk. You can go to the American Dairy Goat Association website at www.adga.org to find out info about local goat club and breeders in your area. The goat milk should taste like the best milk you ever had in your life, too. SWEET. CLEAN taste without any hint of ANY off taste. I want to emphasize that because many commercially available, pasteurized goat dairy products have a really awful capriolic acid bite. Tastes like a buck goat smells! Your local raw, homegrown goat milk dairy products SHOULD NOT have this awful bite. The reason the commercial products do is that goat milk is fragile and doesn't take handling/shipping well. When the goat milk is bruised from all that travel, pastuerizing, pumping tank to tank, etc.... the fat globules burst and release free capriolic acid. Donna Safehaven Nubian Dairy Goats and Jersey Cows Dandridge, TN > > Hi, my name is Tricia. I'm new to raw milk. I bought my first gallon last night, straight from the cow. I let it cool over night in the fridge and tried it first thing this morning. I couldn't taste a difference in the milk. My hubby said the store bought milk tasted a little sweeter. I don't know why though, since it was 2%. > > I have a 14 month old who was diagnosed with failure to thrive a month ago or so. The doctor wants me to give him soy formula since he is allergic to regular milk. I'm hoping that his body will be able to handle the raw milk, even though the homogenized milk gives him diahrea and vomiting. We should know by tomorrow > > I found a local farm through realmilk.com. I was surprised to find out that raw milk is nearly half the price of milk in the store. I've told some friends and family and it sounds like a lot of them are interested in switching too. > > Anyway, I joined this group to keep up on political issues as well as get recipes and other general information about raw milk. > _________________________________________________________________ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx? icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I've been looking for local goat milk but haven't been able to get ahold of it. I have a list of people but only one person has called me back and that person said she didn't have any lactating goats right now but was hoping to get one soon. So, cows milk will have to do for now. Thank you for the information though, I will definitely still keep my eye out for goats milk. In all actuality I would prefer to give him human milk... if I could give him anything that's what it'd be. Our doctor forced me to stop breastfeeding at 7 months. He was losing weight. It didn't help much. He stopped losing but didn't gain until I switched him from the soy formula to the rice milk. He drank approx 8oz of the cow milk today with no vomiting. If we clear tomorrow without diarrhea then I am betting that he'll thrive on the cow milk. He had a great day today. He looked healthy and was soooo happy. To: RawDairy From: safehavennubians@...Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:12:05 +0000Subject: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS You might want to find some raw goat milk, too. Usually children who have been diagnosed with failure to thrive do better on the goat milk than on the cow milk. You can go to the American Dairy Goat Association website at www.adga.org to find out info about local goat club and breeders in your area. The goat milk should taste like the best milk you ever had in your life, too. SWEET. CLEAN taste without any hint of ANY off taste. I want to emphasize that because many commercially available, pasteurized goat dairy products have a really awful capriolic acid bite. Tastes like a buck goat smells! Your local raw, homegrown goat milk dairy products SHOULD NOT have this awful bite. The reason the commercial products do is that goat milk is fragile and doesn't take handling/shipping well. When the goat milk is bruised from all that travel, pastuerizing, pumping tank to tank, etc.... the fat globules burst and release free capriolic acid. DonnaSafehaven Nubian Dairy Goats and Jersey CowsDandridge, TN>> Hi, my name is Tricia. I'm new to raw milk. I bought my first gallon last night, straight from the cow. I let it cool over night in the fridge and tried it first thing this morning. I couldn't taste a difference in the milk. My hubby said the store bought milk tasted a little sweeter. I don't know why though, since it was 2%.> > I have a 14 month old who was diagnosed with failure to thrive a month ago or so. The doctor wants me to give him soy formula since he is allergic to regular milk. I'm hoping that his body will be able to handle the raw milk, even though the homogenized milk gives him diahrea and vomiting. We should know by tomorrow > > I found a local farm through realmilk.com. I was surprised to find out that raw milk is nearly half the price of milk in the store. I've told some friends and family and it sounds like a lot of them are interested in switching too.> > Anyway, I joined this group to keep up on political issues as well as get recipes and other general information about raw milk. > __________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi Tricia, Welcome to the group! I don't know anything about failure to thrive. However you might want to check out Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon. There is also a group DiscussingNT. She does have a recipe for baby formula. In it is goat milk, cod liver oil, and some other ingredients. A lot of mothers on that group say their children do very very well on it. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi Tricia, Let me get my two cents worth in. When it comes to raw cow's milk don't worry. I raised 12 children on it. We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely is an aquired taste. Over the 27 years that we have been drinking raw, we have bought it from countless sources. For a time, we would even make 2000 mile round trips and get 1 month's worth. People thought we were crazy but we were stuck with facts. Another suggestion is to buy only raw, unfiltered, and pollenated honey as the only sweetener in the house. Raw honey and raw milk combined are awesome for healing whatever ails you. When honey is not heated, it is considered a food. Milk and honey are mentioned several times in the Bible. That is certainly not trivial. You will enjoy your calm child. His nervous system will grow from real milk. I am happy for your family. God Bless, Barb KTricia Henry wrote: I've been looking for local goat milk but haven't been able to get ahold of it. I have a list of people but only one person has called me back and that person said she didn't have any lactating goats right now but was hoping to get one soon. So, cows milk will have to do for now. Thank you for the information though, I will definitely still keep my eye out for goats milk. In all actuality I would prefer to give him human milk... if I could give him anything that's what it'd be. Our doctor forced me to stop breastfeeding at 7 months. He was losing weight. It didn't help much. He stopped losing but didn't gain until I switched him from the soy formula to the rice milk. He drank approx 8oz of the cow milk today with no vomiting. If we clear tomorrow without diarrhea then I am betting that he'll thrive on the cow milk. He had a great day today. He looked healthy and was soooo happy. To: RawDairy From: safehavennubiansjunoDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:12:05 +0000Subject: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS You might want to find some raw goat milk, too. Usually children who have been diagnosed with failure to thrive do better on the goat milk than on the cow milk. You can go to the American Dairy Goat Association website at www.adga.org to find out info about local goat club and breeders in your area. The goat milk should taste like the best milk you ever had in your life, too. SWEET. CLEAN taste without any hint of ANY off taste. I want to emphasize that because many commercially available, pasteurized goat dairy products have a really awful capriolic acid bite. Tastes like a buck goat smells! Your local raw, homegrown goat milk dairy products SHOULD NOT have this awful bite. The reason the commercial products do is that goat milk is fragile and doesn't take handling/shipping well. When the goat milk is bruised from all that travel, pastuerizing, pumping tank to tank, etc.... the fat globules burst and release free capriolic acid. DonnaSafehaven Nubian Dairy Goats and Jersey CowsDandridge, TN>> Hi, my name is Tricia. I'm new to raw milk. I bought my first gallon last night, straight from the cow. I let it cool over night in the fridge and tried it first thing this morning. I couldn't taste a difference in the milk. My hubby said the store bought milk tasted a little sweeter. I don't know why though, since it was 2%.> > I have a 14 month old who was diagnosed with failure to thrive a month ago or so. The doctor wants me to give him soy formula since he is allergic to regular milk. I'm hoping that his body will be able to handle the raw milk, even though the homogenized milk gives him diahrea and vomiting. We should know by tomorrow > > I found a local farm through realmilk.com. I was surprised to find out that raw milk is nearly half the price of milk in the store. I've told some friends and family and it sounds like a lot of them are interested in switching too.> > Anyway, I joined this group to keep up on political issues as well as get recipes and other general information about raw milk. > __________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 That's awesome! I appreciate your '2 cents', Thank you! I will look for some honey in my local health food store. Do you have any recipes you put the honey in or do you eat it on toast or something? To: RawDairy From: bjkeithbjkeith@...Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:48:34 -0700Subject: RE: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS Hi Tricia, Let me get my two cents worth in. When it comes to raw cow's milk don't worry. I raised 12 children on it. We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely is an aquired taste. Over the 27 years that we have been drinking raw, we have bought it from countless sources. For a time, we would even make 2000 mile round trips and get 1 month's worth. People thought we were crazy but we were stuck with facts. Another suggestion is to buy only raw, unfiltered, and pollenated honey as the only sweetener in the house. Raw honey and raw milk combined are awesome for healing whatever ails you. When honey is not heated, it is considered a food. Milk and honey are mentioned several times in the Bible. That is certainly not trivial. You will enjoy your calm child. His nervous system will grow from real milk. I am happy for your family. God Bless, Barb KTricia Henry <shudderettehotmail> wrote: I've been looking for local goat milk but haven't been able to get ahold of it. I have a list of people but only one person has called me back and that person said she didn't have any lactating goats right now but was hoping to get one soon. So, cows milk will have to do for now. Thank you for the information though, I will definitely still keep my eye out for goats milk. In all actuality I would prefer to give him human milk... if I could give him anything that's what it'd be. Our doctor forced me to stop breastfeeding at 7 months. He was losing weight. It didn't help much. He stopped losing but didn't gain until I switched him from the soy formula to the rice milk. He drank approx 8oz of the cow milk today with no vomiting. If we clear tomorrow without diarrhea then I am betting that he'll thrive on the cow milk. He had a great day today. He looked healthy and was soooo happy. To: RawDairy From: safehavennubiansjunoDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:12:05 +0000Subject: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS You might want to find some raw goat milk, too. Usually children who have been diagnosed with failure to thrive do better on the goat milk than on the cow milk. You can go to the American Dairy Goat Association website at www.adga.org to find out info about local goat club and breeders in your area. The goat milk should taste like the best milk you ever had in your life, too. SWEET. CLEAN taste without any hint of ANY off taste. I want to emphasize that because many commercially available, pasteurized goat dairy products have a really awful capriolic acid bite. Tastes like a buck goat smells! Your local raw, homegrown goat milk dairy products SHOULD NOT have this awful bite. The reason the commercial products do is that goat milk is fragile and doesn't take handling/shipping well. When the goat milk is bruised from all that travel, pastuerizing, pumping tank to tank, etc.... the fat globules burst and release free capriolic acid. DonnaSafehaven Nubian Dairy Goats and Jersey CowsDandridge, TN>> Hi, my name is Tricia. I'm new to raw milk. I bought my first gallon last night, straight from the cow. I let it cool over night in the fridge and tried it first thing this morning. I couldn't taste a difference in the milk. My hubby said the store bought milk tasted a little sweeter. I don't know why though, since it was 2%.> > I have a 14 month old who was diagnosed with failure to thrive a month ago or so. The doctor wants me to give him soy formula since he is allergic to regular milk. I'm hoping that his body will be able to handle the raw milk, even though the homogenized milk gives him diahrea and vomiting. We should know by tomorrow > > I found a local farm through realmilk.com. I was surprised to find out that raw milk is nearly half the price of milk in the store. I've told some friends and family and it sounds like a lot of them are interested in switching too.> > Anyway, I joined this group to keep up on political issues as well as get recipes and other general information about raw milk. > __________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 That's awesome! I appreciate your '2 cents', Thank you! I will look for some honey in my local health food store. Do you have any recipes you put the honey in or do you eat it on toast or something? To: RawDairy From: bjkeithbjkeith@...Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:48:34 -0700Subject: RE: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS Hi Tricia, Let me get my two cents worth in. When it comes to raw cow's milk don't worry. I raised 12 children on it. We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely is an aquired taste. Over the 27 years that we have been drinking raw, we have bought it from countless sources. For a time, we would even make 2000 mile round trips and get 1 month's worth. People thought we were crazy but we were stuck with facts. Another suggestion is to buy only raw, unfiltered, and pollenated honey as the only sweetener in the house. Raw honey and raw milk combined are awesome for healing whatever ails you. When honey is not heated, it is considered a food. Milk and honey are mentioned several times in the Bible. That is certainly not trivial. You will enjoy your calm child. His nervous system will grow from real milk. I am happy for your family. God Bless, Barb KTricia Henry <shudderettehotmail> wrote: I've been looking for local goat milk but haven't been able to get ahold of it. I have a list of people but only one person has called me back and that person said she didn't have any lactating goats right now but was hoping to get one soon. So, cows milk will have to do for now. Thank you for the information though, I will definitely still keep my eye out for goats milk. In all actuality I would prefer to give him human milk... if I could give him anything that's what it'd be. Our doctor forced me to stop breastfeeding at 7 months. He was losing weight. It didn't help much. He stopped losing but didn't gain until I switched him from the soy formula to the rice milk. He drank approx 8oz of the cow milk today with no vomiting. If we clear tomorrow without diarrhea then I am betting that he'll thrive on the cow milk. He had a great day today. He looked healthy and was soooo happy. To: RawDairy From: safehavennubiansjunoDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:12:05 +0000Subject: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS You might want to find some raw goat milk, too. Usually children who have been diagnosed with failure to thrive do better on the goat milk than on the cow milk. You can go to the American Dairy Goat Association website at www.adga.org to find out info about local goat club and breeders in your area. The goat milk should taste like the best milk you ever had in your life, too. SWEET. CLEAN taste without any hint of ANY off taste. I want to emphasize that because many commercially available, pasteurized goat dairy products have a really awful capriolic acid bite. Tastes like a buck goat smells! Your local raw, homegrown goat milk dairy products SHOULD NOT have this awful bite. The reason the commercial products do is that goat milk is fragile and doesn't take handling/shipping well. When the goat milk is bruised from all that travel, pastuerizing, pumping tank to tank, etc.... the fat globules burst and release free capriolic acid. DonnaSafehaven Nubian Dairy Goats and Jersey CowsDandridge, TN>> Hi, my name is Tricia. I'm new to raw milk. I bought my first gallon last night, straight from the cow. I let it cool over night in the fridge and tried it first thing this morning. I couldn't taste a difference in the milk. My hubby said the store bought milk tasted a little sweeter. I don't know why though, since it was 2%.> > I have a 14 month old who was diagnosed with failure to thrive a month ago or so. The doctor wants me to give him soy formula since he is allergic to regular milk. I'm hoping that his body will be able to handle the raw milk, even though the homogenized milk gives him diahrea and vomiting. We should know by tomorrow > > I found a local farm through realmilk.com. I was surprised to find out that raw milk is nearly half the price of milk in the store. I've told some friends and family and it sounds like a lot of them are interested in switching too.> > Anyway, I joined this group to keep up on political issues as well as get recipes and other general information about raw milk. > __________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Yes I do. In fact, I have a Betty Crocker cookbook that I convert many recipes over from sugar to honey. Over time, you will become an expert. You will also enjoy how your taste buds will "clean up" over a period of time. I am co-owner if a health products company that manufactures a protein bar that is made of organic honey and organic fresh peanut butter. I honestly don't mean to "advertise", but I am proud of our products. Our website is www.perfectfoodsbar.com . People use this bar to take care of their sweet tooth because it has 18+ grams of raw food protein which helps to combat sugar cravings. You may be able to find a local beekeeper who would be willing to sell you honey at a reasonable price. Find one who allows pollen to enter the hives because it will contain local pollen to help your body build immunities to allergies that are common in your area. God Bless, Barb KTricia Henry wrote: That's awesome! I appreciate your '2 cents', Thank you!I will look for some honey in my local health food store. Do you have any recipes you put the honey in or do you eat it on toast or something? To: RawDairy From: bjkeithbjkeithDate: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:48:34 -0700Subject: RE: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS Hi Tricia, Let me get my two cents worth in. When it comes to raw cow's milk don't worry. I raised 12 children on it. We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely is an aquired taste. Over the 27 years that we have been drinking raw, we have bought it from countless sources. For a time, we would even make 2000 mile round trips and get 1 month's worth. People thought we were crazy but we were stuck with facts. Another suggestion is to buy only raw, unfiltered, and pollenated honey as the only sweetener in the house. Raw honey and raw milk combined are awesome for healing whatever ails you. When honey is not heated, it is considered a food. Milk and honey are mentioned several times in the Bible. That is certainly not trivial. You will enjoy your calm child. His nervous system will grow from real milk. I am happy for your family. God Bless, Barb KTricia Henry <shudderettehotmail> wrote: I've been looking for local goat milk but haven't been able to get ahold of it. I have a list of people but only one person has called me back and that person said she didn't have any lactating goats right now but was hoping to get one soon. So, cows milk will have to do for now. Thank you for the information though, I will definitely still keep my eye out for goats milk. In all actuality I would prefer to give him human milk... if I could give him anything that's what it'd be. Our doctor forced me to stop breastfeeding at 7 months. He was losing weight. It didn't help much. He stopped losing but didn't gain until I switched him from the soy formula to the rice milk. He drank approx 8oz of the cow milk today with no vomiting. If we clear tomorrow without diarrhea then I am betting that he'll thrive on the cow milk. He had a great day today. He looked healthy and was soooo happy. To: RawDairy From: safehavennubiansjunoDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:12:05 +0000Subject: Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS You might want to find some raw goat milk, too. Usually children who have been diagnosed with failure to thrive do better on the goat milk than on the cow milk. You can go to the American Dairy Goat Association website at www.adga.org to find out info about local goat club and breeders in your area. The goat milk should taste like the best milk you ever had in your life, too. SWEET. CLEAN taste without any hint of ANY off taste. I want to emphasize that because many commercially available, pasteurized goat dairy products have a really awful capriolic acid bite. Tastes like a buck goat smells! Your local raw, homegrown goat milk dairy products SHOULD NOT have this awful bite. The reason the commercial products do is that goat milk is fragile and doesn't take handling/shipping well. When the goat milk is bruised from all that travel, pastuerizing, pumping tank to tank, etc.... the fat globules burst and release free capriolic acid. DonnaSafehaven Nubian Dairy Goats and Jersey CowsDandridge, TN>> Hi, my name is Tricia. I'm new to raw milk. I bought my first gallon last night, straight from the cow. I let it cool over night in the fridge and tried it first thing this morning. I couldn't taste a difference in the milk. My hubby said the store bought milk tasted a little sweeter. I don't know why though, since it was 2%.> > I have a 14 month old who was diagnosed with failure to thrive a month ago or so. The doctor wants me to give him soy formula since he is allergic to regular milk. I'm hoping that his body will be able to handle the raw milk, even though the homogenized milk gives him diahrea and vomiting. We should know by tomorrow > > I found a local farm through realmilk.com. I was surprised to find out that raw milk is nearly half the price of milk in the store. I've told some friends and family and it sounds like a lot of them are interested in switching too.> > Anyway, I joined this group to keep up on political issues as well as get recipes and other general information about raw milk. > __________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". Check it out. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Helo all, I must Step In here and State that any Raw Milk that doesnt taste Delishiously Sweet when fresh is not " Normal " ! Raw Goat Milk Does not " Normally " taste Strong or " Goaty " Normal Raw goats Milk is Sometimes even Sweeter and faintly saltier with a pleasant Nutty undertone! but definatly not gamey or worse! most people cant even tell the difference between Goat and oow other than color or cream line as goat milk doesnt fully seperate (lacks an aglutinating protein) So many people are too willing to Fault an entire species of Dairy Animal just because a few give bad milk Some cows give " Cowey " tasting Milk (Ewwwwwww!) but almost noone writes of Cows milk becase of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 > > Helo all, I must Step In here and State that any Raw Milk that doesnt taste Delishiously Sweet when fresh is not " Normal " ! Raw Goat Milk Does not " Normally " taste Strong or " Goaty " Normal Raw goats Milk is Sometimes even Sweeter and faintly saltier with a pleasant Nutty undertone! but definatly not gamey or worse I'd have to agree! Raw goat's milk is wonderful. Our goat's have great milk and we'll never go back to store bought. Cow's are way too big for our land, therefore we won't own one. Besides cow's have one calf and goat's can have between 1-5 kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 How much land for a goat or two? And are there any good websites or good books to read up on goat care? Thanks Dora Besides cow's have one calf and > goat's can have between 1-5 kids. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi Dora, In general (I say that because everyone's land is different) you can have 8 goats for every acre of land. In general you can have one cow for every acre of land. A good Yahoo group to get you started is NubianTalk. Nubians are a breed of goat, but they talk goat it doesn't have to be just Nubians. Although they are known for high butterfat (Nigeran Dwarfs too, but way smaller). A good book to get started would be Storey's Guide to Raising Dairy Goats. It's a good general book. I also like Holistic Goats group. If there's something you'd like to know in particular, ask, if I don't know it I might know where to direct you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi Dora, In general (I say that because everyone's land is different) you can have 8 goats for every acre of land. In general you can have one cow for every acre of land. A good Yahoo group to get you started is NubianTalk. Nubians are a breed of goat, but they talk goat it doesn't have to be just Nubians. Although they are known for high butterfat (Nigeran Dwarfs too, but way smaller). A good book to get started would be Storey's Guide to Raising Dairy Goats. It's a good general book. I also like Holistic Goats group. If there's something you'd like to know in particular, ask, if I don't know it I might know where to direct you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I've been raising goat's for years for their milk and if the milk is fresh, clean and cooled properly most people can't even tell the difference, unless it's Oberhausli milk then that's a different story. Most times the milk is not handled properly and that's when there is a smell or an off taste to it. Lucinda in PA We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely is an aquired taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I've been raising goat's for years for their milk and if the milk is fresh, clean and cooled properly most people can't even tell the difference, unless it's Oberhausli milk then that's a different story. Most times the milk is not handled properly and that's when there is a smell or an off taste to it. Lucinda in PA We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely is an aquired taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 So, in your opinion, what is so different about Oberhasli milk, other than it is naturally lower in butterfat? I find that the taste of any milk depends largely on diet and cleanliness. The Obi milk I have had, (over the course of 10 years or so) always out tasted nubian milk, in my opinion.... Micah > We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the > taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely > is an aquired taste. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 So, in your opinion, what is so different about Oberhasli milk, other than it is naturally lower in butterfat? I find that the taste of any milk depends largely on diet and cleanliness. The Obi milk I have had, (over the course of 10 years or so) always out tasted nubian milk, in my opinion.... Micah > We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the > taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely > is an aquired taste. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Micah, I have never had Ober milk myself. I do know of 2 people that raise them that have cross bred them because they said the milk was just too strong and have heard that from other people before. I just took it for granted after hearing the same more than a few times about ober milk in particular. Maybe they complain about the thing that you refer to as 'out tasting' which I assume means tastes better to you? I guess I should have included 'so I am told' rather than a blanket statement. My apologies for any misleading I may have done. Lucinda in PA > > So, in your opinion, what is so different about Oberhasli milk, > other than it is naturally lower in butterfat? > I find that the taste of any milk depends largely on diet and > cleanliness. The Obi milk I have had, (over the course of 10 years > or so) always out tasted nubian milk, in my opinion.... > Micah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Micah, I have never had Ober milk myself. I do know of 2 people that raise them that have cross bred them because they said the milk was just too strong and have heard that from other people before. I just took it for granted after hearing the same more than a few times about ober milk in particular. Maybe they complain about the thing that you refer to as 'out tasting' which I assume means tastes better to you? I guess I should have included 'so I am told' rather than a blanket statement. My apologies for any misleading I may have done. Lucinda in PA > > So, in your opinion, what is so different about Oberhasli milk, > other than it is naturally lower in butterfat? > I find that the taste of any milk depends largely on diet and > cleanliness. The Obi milk I have had, (over the course of 10 years > or so) always out tasted nubian milk, in my opinion.... > Micah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I have 5 does in milk at this time. 19 goats total. Only 1 goat has had a strong flavor ( " buck-y " is being kind) and that's because she had a staph infection. Treated that and she's just as sweet and delicious as the others. It has been stated on another yahoo group that too high protein intake can cause an off flavor. Back off the grain and add more hay. And please do not drink the pasteurized stuff in the stores. I've yet to taste a milk or cheese from the local groceries that tasted even as good as the staph infected goat's!!!! Carol in Fla > We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the > taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely > is an aquired taste. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I have 5 does in milk at this time. 19 goats total. Only 1 goat has had a strong flavor ( " buck-y " is being kind) and that's because she had a staph infection. Treated that and she's just as sweet and delicious as the others. It has been stated on another yahoo group that too high protein intake can cause an off flavor. Back off the grain and add more hay. And please do not drink the pasteurized stuff in the stores. I've yet to taste a milk or cheese from the local groceries that tasted even as good as the staph infected goat's!!!! Carol in Fla > We tried goat's milk from time to time but couldn't fathom the > taste. Goat's milk is easier to digest and is great but it definitely > is an aquired taste. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yahoo Group, Homedairygoats. Wonderfully knowledgeable. And http://fiascofarm.com Carol > > How much land for a goat or two? And are there any good websites or > good books to read up on goat care? > > Thanks > > Dora > > > > Besides cow's have one calf and > > goat's can have between 1-5 kids. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yahoo Group, Homedairygoats. Wonderfully knowledgeable. And http://fiascofarm.com Carol > > How much land for a goat or two? And are there any good websites or > good books to read up on goat care? > > Thanks > > Dora > > > > Besides cow's have one calf and > > goat's can have between 1-5 kids. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 No appology necessary. I was just wondering what experience it was that prompted the comment, that's all. On another group I am on, a lady is complaining about her Alpine's milk, so maybe it varies from goat to goat as well as diet. The Obi milk was the reason my parents started raising them. It is naturally lower in butterfat and the most mild taste of any milk we had, goat or cow. This might be why they didn't like the milk as well, as I am told butterfat makes the milk taste sweeter (is that a word?, maybe more sweet) so the obi milk might have less flavor, rather than more? Anyway, just curious about other's experiences, Micah Re: Self intro - Tricia from McPherson, KS Micah,I have never had Ober milk myself. I do know of 2 people that raise them that have cross bred them because they said the milk was just too strong and have heard that from other people before. I just took it for granted after hearing the same more than a few times about ober milk in particular. Maybe they complain about the thing that you refer to as 'out tasting' which I assume means tastes better to you? I guess I should have included 'so I am told' rather than a blanket statement. My apologies for any misleading I may have done.Lucinda in PA>> So, in your opinion, what is so different about Oberhasli milk, > other than it is naturally lower in butterfat?> I find that the taste of any milk depends largely on diet and > cleanliness. The Obi milk I have had, (over the course of 10 years > or so) always out tasted nubian milk, in my opinion....> Micah Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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