Hi I have lots of questions about implants and am new here

October 19, 2004

Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.

I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to

find out more about implants.

I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do

have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am

looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that

anyone can recomend me to.

I need to hear the truth not just the " candy coated " stuff I have

heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.

I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top with

big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried about

going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to

balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.

Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running harder

to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also

wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.

I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want to

do in life.

I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a big

chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA!

What a big decision this is right now.

I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed

away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough

to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.

Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.

I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get

preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.

I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but in

the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.

thank you for your honest replies

October 19, 2004

Hi ,

I can't speak as someone who has implants, I can only speak for what I have seen with my best friend who I have watch helplessly as she suffers from the after effects of having implants then having them removed. It takes every ounce of strength she has just to get through the day, if there were any way possible for me to give her some of my strength, I would do so gladly.

I am not going to preach to you or harp at you, you should just know that God made you the way he wants you. Personally, I fought a weight battle all of my life, I lead an active lifestyle, walking about 4 miles a day, yet for some reason, I can not lose weight. This reason is unknown to me or anyone else, God made me this way and I have learned to accept it.

I am glad you have chosen to research this decision before plunging in. Good luck with your decision in this and in life.

My best, Janiebrenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to find out more about implants.I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that anyone can recomend me to.I need to hear the truth not just the "candy coated" stuff I have heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top with big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried about going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running

harder to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want to do in life.I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a big chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA! What a big decision this is right now.I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but in the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.thank you for your honest

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October 19, 2004

We are here only to help. I don't want to scare you away by being too boldly so I will try identifying with you first. I was 30 when I got my implants and landed some money also. I can understand you wanting to increase your bust size to even yourself out. First, though 105 lbs is ultra tiny. Before Breast implants I was 118, after I got them I went up to 127-130. Over the years my thyroid went bad which is a well known complication of saline or silicone breast implants. I now weigh 165, but was at my worst 207. At 44 is when I hit the big 207, but have dropped to 156, but went back up. Amongst, my problems I have a thyroid problem and can't loose weight now.

You are so young and have so much to look forward to. You're in college, how nice. After two years of my implants I was diagnoses with Attention Deficit Disorder, then depression. Breast implants affect your mental cognition and you can loose your short term memory. I had other emotional problems I relate to implants. Right after I put my implants in I had to have sinus surgery, never having sinus trouble before. I also developed asthma, which is a similar symptom like the mine workers who developed siliconosis. Look it up its been documented for years.

Any of us here have numerous articles concerning how implants increase your risks for painful conditions such as fibromyalgia (which I have, and is very disabiling,) unspecific arthritis, and Lupus. It's not a matter of IF you will get sick it's when you will get sick. I had initial warning signs but had "no clue" until I was debilitated. I had mine for 15 years. Do not think they are safe for any minute though. We've had women on this sight sho have immediate reactions to them. There are so many women with problems and all the same kinds, I would not risk putting those things in my chest for ALL the money in the world. You are luck you came here first. I wish I would have been so lucky.

We only want to save others lives. If you were to wait to see if you had a reaction to the implants it could be too late. By the time you know you may never ever regain your complete health. It affects our immune system. You must worry not to catch a cold or it could turn into asthmatic bronchitis, sinusitis or worse. And I have chronic sinusitis. Not to mention the migraines. Those who have had implants for less amount of time, with the least amount of symptoms, without ruptures have had greater success for improvement. Usually. However, Kacey never even had a rupture, and can''t even get in and out of the bathtub without help.

Not only is the silicone bad but a foreign body in your body is enough to cause an autoimmune response. In addition, the implants are being made with faulty valves. What happens is, they leak. They leak bacteria into the body. Because if the valves are faulty bacteria can also get in.

In addition, lets say you kept the implants in for 5 years TOPS and didn't notice any problems, you'd be super lucky, and unlikely to occur, but they are not for a life time that they told us, and you'll have to pay for removal. Removal by a trained Plastic Surgeon is at least 6,500.00. So you're looking at an added cost then. And at that time you'll want a lift which could then run you up to 15,000 for taking implants out and the lift. You'd be lucky if you could get the ins. to take them out but by then you'd have to have capsular contracture of 3 or 4 and if you did you have the other symptoms I'd mentioned above.

These are the symptoms that go along with Breast Implants: but check with our moderator Patty and Kacey for confirmaiton. Generalized pain (fibromyalgia, or arthritis), Chronic fatigue, cognitive impairment, short term memory problems, nuerological problems, thyroid disorders, vision changes, migraines, irritable bowel problems, mental health changes from irratability, depression, suicidal ideations, bipolar disorder, attention deficit disorder, candiditis and fungul problems, weakened immune systems, sinus and lung problems (astma) skins eruptions and rashes (malar rashes, similar to Lupus), photosensitvity, cold painful extremities, can't tolerate hot or cold, insomnia and other sleep disorders, dry eyes. And you can ask 25 other women here and they confirm that at one time they experienced to a certain extent most of these problems. This is a syndrome of problems and it is systemic (affecting the entire body). I wouldn't want to

test my fate with it. I use to be an athlete and landscaper but I'm not able to work now. We only want to help you. Should you decide to go ahead with the augmentation and experience problems, we are always here to help. God be with you in your decision. K. brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to find out more about implants.I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that anyone can recomend me to.I need to hear the truth not just the "candy coated" stuff I have heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top with big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried about going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running

harder to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want to do in life.I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a big chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA! What a big decision this is right now.I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but in the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.thank you for your honest

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October 19, 2004

, thank you for coming here. I am a 29 year old mother of a 4 year old. I can remember the time you are going through all too well. I got implants at the age of 19, and I was waitressing (I had to take off 3 weeks, as they place them under your muscle and I could not lift no tray for quite a while, let me tell you, very painful and sore) going to college, and working out a lot. Like you I was a jogger. I got them ,as I was very thin, worked out hard, felt I needed them as I was always a little hippy, and had that butt too! I thought I really needed them to balance out. I know look back and know I was so insecure. If only I hadnt.

There wasn’t much info on saline, this was 1994, I had no internet access, all that was out there (info) was silicone . I got them and never thought about the repercussions on when I would one day, want to have a kid. There is no illness in my family, and I know know I took my health for granted. I never thought I would get sick by them, it was only "salt water' as my ps told me.

So about 6 years into having them, I got pregnant and after a great pregnancy, I was getting these stiff joints and hair loss, dizzy spells and headaches! I thought maybe it was the pregnancy or something. just hormones. But things got bad, very fast. To sum it up, within a year-I was diagnosed, me a young, attractive healthy girl, with a new husband, the man of my dreams, and a new baby that I feel in love with, at the age of 26 with rheumatoid arthritis and hashimoto;s disease (thyroid auto immune disease) I was also showing symptoms of multiple sclerosis, went through about many horrific tests to rule it out, as it was highly suspected, and had a bells palsy attack, its like a stroke on your face. I was scared to death, All the docs kept telling me was that it wasn’t the implants. Couldn’t be. Yet, they didn't even know, they were in silicone shells. So, they knew nothing about them. But I had this feeling it was, as I was the only patient often in the waiting rooms, under 50. It was so strange. I had two auto immune illnesses at 26! Come on! I got all these infections, and I could not get rid of these damn ear infections and yeast infections. I started gaining all this weight, and no matter how hard I worked out, I couldn’t stoop gaining. I Work out 50 min a day! And I was gaining like 15 pounds per year. No one in my family had thyroid issues or auto immune illnesses. So it wasn’t genetic. I was getting sick very fast. I felt very fatigued, and had all these muscle twitches everywhere.

So, I went through hell, who has the time? I work , I have a family a house to take care of, big extended family- I found this support group, and everyone had the same exact symptoms I did. That was Enough for me- fought my insurance for three months to get it covered (its a lot more $$ to get those puppies out , then in) , researched like mad, traveled from IL to Georgia to get them out properly. My 2 hour explant surgery took almost 7 hours. I had infections everywhere. My ribs had to be manually scraped, yucky capsules formed around them, filling with gloppy dead tissue and full of infectious crap. Had I known what the inside of a implanted women's body looked like, I would have never gotten them. YUCK!

I have more scars, a lot less money and sickness to fight because of them. And guess what? I have my small breasts again. So why did I ever do it? I am back at square one, little breasts and now with more damage. I would tell you, they are not approved yet, they are high maintenance, they are hard to sleep with, they are weird feeling. I never slept one good night with them. No more belly sleeping!

I couldn’t breast feed, nobody knows the damage it does these babies born to implanted women, all we do know is that silicone is one of the few to cross the placenta, and is carcinogenetic. They are a lot of upkeep, time of work to replace when ruptured, most do by 6 years. Who has time? No long term studies have ever been done on them, as they got in ,before certain standards were started in the FDA. And now, we are finding, a little too late- most of them have leaky valves, making women very ill with infections that trigger disease. Its like russion roulette to me. I wished I never got them .That’s why I stay here over two years to help others get the other side, I never did. its just so wrong.

I have proof they were making me ill, too. The rheumatoid arthritis went into remission a year after the were removed ,and my blood work showed huge improvements on my thyroid disease. Now all the doctors believe me. (I did have two that did believe me towards the end, before I got them out, as I was so ill)I am on my way to remission. Listen any foreign object in your body, faulty or not, can trigger auto immune illnesses. Why risk it? I wish I had the options, as you do, and I would have never gotten them. Wondering, will I ever get cancer, as the NCCI states we are at a three time risk higher for cancers, or if Tyler will one day pay a price for being in a toxic mother, but all I can do is pray and hope. I am getting better. Love yourself, forget society, stay beautiful and real. You will thank yourself for the rest of your life! Love

Re: Hi I have lots of questions about implants and am new here

We are here only to help. I don't want to scare you away by being too boldly so I will try identifying with you first. I was 30 when I got my implants and landed some money also. I can understand you wanting to increase your bust size to even yourself out. First, though 105 lbs is ultra tiny. Before Breast implants I was 118, after I got them I went up to 127-130. Over the years my thyroid went bad which is a well known complication of saline or silicone breast implants. I now weigh 165, but was at my worst 207. At 44 is when I hit the big 207, but have dropped to 156, but went back up. Amongst, my problems I have a thyroid problem and can't loose weight now.

You are so young and have so much to look forward to. You're in college, how nice. After two years of my implants I was diagnoses with Attention Deficit Disorder, then depression. Breast implants affect your mental cognition and you can loose your short term memory. I had other emotional problems I relate to implants. Right after I put my implants in I had to have sinus surgery, never having sinus trouble before. I also developed asthma, which is a similar symptom like the mine workers who developed siliconosis. Look it up its been documented for years.

Any of us here have numerous articles concerning how implants increase your risks for painful conditions such as fibromyalgia (which I have, and is very disabiling,) unspecific arthritis, and Lupus. It's not a matter of IF you will get sick it's when you will get sick. I had initial warning signs but had "no clue" until I was debilitated. I had mine for 15 years. Do not think they are safe for any minute though. We've had women on this sight sho have immediate reactions to them. There are so many women with problems and all the same kinds, I would not risk putting those things in my chest for ALL the money in the world. You are luck you came here first. I wish I would have been so lucky.

We only want to save others lives. If you were to wait to see if you had a reaction to the implants it could be too late. By the time you know you may never ever regain your complete health. It affects our immune system. You must worry not to catch a cold or it could turn into asthmatic bronchitis, sinusitis or worse. And I have chronic sinusitis. Not to mention the migraines. Those who have had implants for less amount of time, with the least amount of symptoms, without ruptures have had greater success for improvement. Usually. However, Kacey never even had a rupture, and can''t even get in and out of the bathtub without help.

Not only is the silicone bad but a foreign body in your body is enough to cause an autoimmune response. In addition, the implants are being made with faulty valves. What happens is, they leak. They leak bacteria into the body. Because if the valves are faulty bacteria can also get in.

In addition, lets say you kept the implants in for 5 years TOPS and didn't notice any problems, you'd be super lucky, and unlikely to occur, but they are not for a life time that they told us, and you'll have to pay for removal. Removal by a trained Plastic Surgeon is at least 6,500.00. So you're looking at an added cost then. And at that time you'll want a lift which could then run you up to 15,000 for taking implants out and the lift. You'd be lucky if you could get the ins. to take them out but by then you'd have to have capsular contracture of 3 or 4 and if you did you have the other symptoms I'd mentioned above.

These are the symptoms that go along with Breast Implants: but check with our moderator Patty and Kacey for confirmaiton. Generalized pain (fibromyalgia, or arthritis), Chronic fatigue, cognitive impairment, short term memory problems, nuerological problems, thyroid disorders, vision changes, migraines, irritable bowel problems, mental health changes from irratability, depression, suicidal ideations, bipolar disorder, attention deficit disorder, candiditis and fungul problems, weakened immune systems, sinus and lung problems (astma) skins eruptions and rashes (malar rashes, similar to Lupus), photosensitvity, cold painful extremities, can't tolerate hot or cold, insomnia and other sleep disorders, dry eyes. And you can ask 25 other women here and they confirm that at one time they experienced to a certain extent most of these problems. This is a syndrome of problems and it is systemic (affecting the entire body). I wouldn't want to test my fate with it. I use to be an athlete and landscaper but I'm not able to work now. We only want to help you. Should you decide to go ahead with the augmentation and experience problems, we are always here to help. God be with you in your decision. K. brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to find out more about implants.I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that anyone can recomend me to.I need to hear the truth not just the "candy coated" stuff I have heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top with big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried about going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running harder to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want to do in life.I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a big chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA! What a big decision this is right now.I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but in the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.thank you for your honest replies

October 19, 2004

And , (I just posted to you) if you ever want to, my little sister is in Dallas, going to school there. Shes 21, and a trip and a half! You can meet up with her, if you ever want to .She'll tell you second hand, how ill I became. She hates implants now. She's says they almost took her sister away, Love,

Hi I have lots of questions about implants and am new here

Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to find out more about implants.I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that anyone can recomend me to.I need to hear the truth not just the "candy coated" stuff I have heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top with big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried about going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running harder to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want to do in life.I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a big chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA! What a big decision this is right now.I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but in the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.thank you for your honest replies

October 19, 2004

Dear , First of all I applaud you for being thoughtful and looking into this issue before rushing off and just blindly taking if for granted that because implants are available they must be safe. I assure you that the more you look into it the more you will realize that this is Not the case. There is a long history of lives ruined, sick children, women who have committed suicide and chemical companies denying any responsibility. And yet Dow Corning is now paying out billions of dollars to women who have had implants. The amount of money each woman will get is an insult when compared to what implants have done to their lives but the point is you can bet they would not be paying out one red cent if they could get away with it. Even if you happen to be one of the few lucky ones who (and I do mean few) who get implants and manage to stay in releatively good health you should know that implants do not last a lifetime. You will have to get them replaced along the line probably several times. I had mine for nineteen years and had three and a half sets. Many women get what's called "capsular contracture". This is when the body realizes there is a foreign object and tries to wall the implants off by forming scar tissue around them. What you end up with is two rock hard balls on your chest that are not only fake looking but extremely uncomfortable or downright painful. You will hear that saline implants are just salt water and therefore safer than silicone. The fact is that as poisonous as silicone is it seems that saline might just be worse. Women who have had their saline implants removed have had fungus, and bacteria growing in them. And the valves leak so this garbage is leaking into the body! Not only that but you get the double whammy of being exposed to silicone also because the shells are made of silicone! And to top it off once a woman gets sick it is almost impossible to find a doctor who will even admit that implants made you sick let alone know how to help you. I could go on and on . My advice is to just keep asking questions and keep an open mind about the pitfalls. I think you will find that all of us here wish we had saved ourselves and our families a great deal of suffering by being happy and accepting of the bodies God gave us. Love, Anita Hi I have lots of questions about implants and am new here Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to find out more about implants.I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that anyone can recomend me to.I need to hear the truth not just the "candy coated" stuff I have heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top with big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried about going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running harder to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want to do in life.I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a big chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA! What a big decision this is right now.I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me hereI am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but in the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.thank you for your honest replies

October 19, 2004

Thank you for your honesty. I am still not sure what I will do,

because as much as I see your point, sure god made us this way, there

are things out there i do believe are safe that we can do to change

things about ourselves some we do everyday, coloring our hair(not

that this is the same as surgery of course it is NOT) we wear make

up, we get contact lenses, we get nose jobs, we get face lifts as we

age, and they all seem ok to me. The implants are just a little

different because they really are invasive.

I am still listening and thinking about things.

thanks girl!

In , Janie <jammin_janiej@y...>

wrote:

> Hi ,

> I can't speak as someone who has implants, I can only speak for

what I have seen with my best friend who I have watch helplessly as

she suffers from the after effects of having implants then having

them removed. It takes every ounce of strength she has just to get

through the day, if there were any way possible for me to give her

some of my strength, I would do so gladly.

> I am not going to preach to you or harp at you, you should just

know that God made you the way he wants you. Personally, I fought a

weight battle all of my life, I lead an active lifestyle, walking

about 4 miles a day, yet for some reason, I can not lose weight. This

reason is unknown to me or anyone else, God made me this way and I

have learned to accept it.

> I am glad you have chosen to research this decision before plunging

in. Good luck with your decision in this and in life.

> My best, Janie

>

> brenda_franz <brenda_franz@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.

> I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to

> find out more about implants.

> I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do

> have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am

> looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that

> anyone can recomend me to.

> I need to hear the truth not just the " candy coated " stuff I have

> heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.

> I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top

with

> big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried

about

> going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to

> balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.

> Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running

harder

> to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also

> wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.

> I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want

to

> do in life.

> I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a

big

> chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA!

> What a big decision this is right now.

> I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed

> away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough

> to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.

> Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.

> I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get

> preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.

> I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but

in

> the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.

> thank you for your honest replies

>

October 19, 2004

Thank you for your response , that was very very informative.

The thing is that I do know not all women get ill. I wish they had a

test to show us if we would be one to get ill or not. They really

need to figure that out ya know. I mean I do know women with implants

for years that are ok. To be honest I have an Aunt in her late 40's

that has had silicone gels for years and she is totally fine. So it

is hard to say why so many do well and others don't.

I am still really just researching, but I have postponed my pre op

just for now, till I am feeling better about things.

It is nice that your not preachy I appreciate that. I am sorry for

your problems and struggles. What kind of implants did you have and

how long before you had issues with them?

Thank you for caring about me

PS I know 105 pounds is tiny but I am very short only barely 5' tall,

so on me it doesn't look as small as you might even think. I am also

a curvy women on the bottom, small waist and big butt hips etc,

nothing on top though, I feel so out of balance!

In , michelle king <michellerking1@y...>

wrote:

> We are here only to help. I don't want to scare you away by being

too boldly so I will try identifying with you first. I was 30 when I

got my implants and landed some money also. I can understand you

wanting to increase your bust size to even yourself out. First,

though 105 lbs is ultra tiny. Before Breast implants I was 118,

after I got them I went up to 127-130. Over the years my thyroid

went bad which is a well known complication of saline or silicone

breast implants. I now weigh 165, but was at my worst 207. At 44 is

when I hit the big 207, but have dropped to 156, but went back up.

Amongst, my problems I have a thyroid problem and can't loose weight

now.

>

> You are so young and have so much to look forward to. You're in

college, how nice. After two years of my implants I was diagnoses

with Attention Deficit Disorder, then depression. Breast implants

affect your mental cognition and you can loose your short term

memory. I had other emotional problems I relate to implants. Right

after I put my implants in I had to have sinus surgery, never having

sinus trouble before. I also developed asthma, which is a similar

symptom like the mine workers who developed siliconosis. Look it up

its been documented for years.

>

> Any of us here have numerous articles concerning how implants

increase your risks for painful conditions such as fibromyalgia

(which I have, and is very disabiling,) unspecific arthritis, and

Lupus. It's not a matter of IF you will get sick it's when you will

get sick. I had initial warning signs but had " no clue " until I was

debilitated. I had mine for 15 years. Do not think they are safe

for any minute though. We've had women on this sight sho have

immediate reactions to them. There are so many women with problems

and all the same kinds, I would not risk putting those things in my

chest for ALL the money in the world. You are luck you came here

first. I wish I would have been so lucky.

>

> We only want to save others lives. If you were to wait to see if

you had a reaction to the implants it could be too late. By the time

you know you may never ever regain your complete health. It affects

our immune system. You must worry not to catch a cold or it could

turn into asthmatic bronchitis, sinusitis or worse. And I have

chronic sinusitis. Not to mention the migraines. Those who have had

implants for less amount of time, with the least amount of symptoms,

without ruptures have had greater success for improvement. Usually.

However, Kacey never even had a rupture, and can''t even get in and

out of the bathtub without help.

>

> Not only is the silicone bad but a foreign body in your body is

enough to cause an autoimmune response. In addition, the implants

are being made with faulty valves. What happens is, they leak. They

leak bacteria into the body. Because if the valves are faulty

bacteria can also get in.

>

> In addition, lets say you kept the implants in for 5 years TOPS and

didn't notice any problems, you'd be super lucky, and unlikely to

occur, but they are not for a life time that they told us, and you'll

have to pay for removal. Removal by a trained Plastic Surgeon is at

least 6,500.00. So you're looking at an added cost then. And at

that time you'll want a lift which could then run you up to 15,000

for taking implants out and the lift. You'd be lucky if you could

get the ins. to take them out but by then you'd have to have capsular

contracture of 3 or 4 and if you did you have the other symptoms I'd

mentioned above.

>

> These are the symptoms that go along with Breast Implants: but

check with our moderator Patty and Kacey for confirmaiton.

Generalized pain (fibromyalgia, or arthritis), Chronic fatigue,

cognitive impairment, short term memory problems, nuerological

problems, thyroid disorders, vision changes, migraines, irritable

bowel problems, mental health changes from irratability, depression,

suicidal ideations, bipolar disorder, attention deficit disorder,

candiditis and fungul problems, weakened immune systems, sinus and

lung problems (astma) skins eruptions and rashes (malar rashes,

similar to Lupus), photosensitvity, cold painful extremities, can't

tolerate hot or cold, insomnia and other sleep disorders, dry eyes.

And you can ask 25 other women here and they confirm that at one time

they experienced to a certain extent most of these problems. This is

a syndrome of problems and it is systemic (affecting the entire

body). I wouldn't want to test my fate with it. I use to be an

athlete

> and landscaper but I'm not able to work now. We only want to help

you. Should you decide to go ahead with the augmentation and

experience problems, we are always here to help. God be with you in

your decision. K.

>

> brenda_franz <brenda_franz@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone, My name is and I am from Dallas Texas.

> I heard about Kacey's story through a mutual friend and wanted to

> find out more about implants.

> I am a single female 27 years old and have not had any kids. I do

> have a boyfriend but he doesnt think I should get implants. I am

> looking for some feedback on this group and any other others that

> anyone can recomend me to.

> I need to hear the truth not just the " candy coated " stuff I have

> heard from the plastic surgeons i have aleady consulted with.

> I really want to get the implants because I am very tiny on top

with

> big hips ( i am only 105 pounds and because of that am worried

about

> going to big) I was thinking of a small C cup, but just enough to

> balance out thise Jlo body I have going on around the butt hip area.

> Anyhow I am also very into running, would this make my running

harder

> to have the implants? I work right now as a waitress so I am also

> wondering how much time one needs to take off of work etc.

> I am a part time student, still having to find what I really want

to

> do in life.

> I have changed my major 3 times already. I am considering again a

big

> chance and going for a business degree maybe even earning my CPA!

> What a big decision this is right now.

> I inherited a small amount of money from my grandmother who passed

> away last year, and while it is not allot , it is just about enough

> to cover the cost of surgery and the little Jeep that I just bought.

> Anyhow I am hoping someone can help me here.

> I am asking for advice and am a little nervous that I might get

> preached too, so please just try to be nice about this.

> I am coming to you for information, the other side of the coin but

in

> the end the final decision of course will have to be mine.

> thank you for your honest replies

>

October 19, 2004

Thankyou . You know I really don't feel insecure about my body

so much as I want to enhance it and to balance it out. But I sure do

worry about my health. I also worry that i won't like them, I have

never felt an implant and am concerned they will feel hard or

uncomfortable.

I would never be comfortable with gel implants, which my PS in Texas

says he could get me in the study for the new gummy gel types. Has

anyone heard of these? They are supposed to be better cause they

don't leak if they break, but they still make me nervous.

Anyhow I am sorry for all you went through. I really wish that

this did not have to be such a hard thing for all of us. I just may

have to get used to wearing this silly padded bras forever!

thanks dear

In , " JOSEPH PALANCA " <juliejp61@m...>

wrote:

> , thank you for coming here. I am a 29 year old mother of a 4

year old. I can remember the time you are going through all too well.

I got implants at the age of 19, and I was waitressing (I had to

take off 3 weeks, as they place them under your muscle and I could

not lift no tray for quite a while, let me tell you, very painful and

sore) going to college, and working out a lot. Like you I was a

jogger. I got them ,as I was very thin, worked out hard, felt I

needed them as I was always a little hippy, and had that butt too! I

thought I really needed them to balance out. I know look back and

know I was so insecure. If only I hadnt.

> There wasn't much info on saline, this was 1994, I had no internet

access, all that was out there (info) was silicone . I got them and

never thought about the repercussions on when I would one day, want

to have a kid. There is no illness in my family, and I know know I

took my health for granted. I never thought I would get sick by them,

it was only " salt water' as my ps told me.

> So about 6 years into having them, I got pregnant and after a great

pregnancy, I was getting these stiff joints and hair loss, dizzy

spells and headaches! I thought maybe it was the pregnancy or

something. just hormones. But things got bad, very fast. To sum it

up, within a year-I was diagnosed, me a young, attractive healthy

girl, with a new husband, the man of my dreams, and a new baby that I

feel in love with, at the age of 26 with rheumatoid arthritis and

hashimoto;s disease (thyroid auto immune disease) I was also showing

symptoms of multiple sclerosis, went through about many horrific

tests to rule it out, as it was highly suspected, and had a bells

palsy attack, its like a stroke on your face. I was scared to death,

All the docs kept telling me was that it wasn't the implants.

Couldn't be. Yet, they didn't even know, they were in silicone

shells. So, they knew nothing about them. But I had this feeling it

was, as I was the only patient often in the waiting rooms, under 50.

It was so strange. I had two auto immune illnesses at 26! Come on! I

got all these infections, and I could not get rid of these damn ear

infections and yeast infections. I started gaining all this weight,

and no matter how hard I worked out, I couldn't stoop gaining. I Work

out 50 min a day! And I was gaining like 15 pounds per year. No one

in my family had thyroid issues or auto immune illnesses. So it

wasn't genetic. I was getting sick very fast. I felt very fatigued,

and had all these muscle twitches everywhere.

>

> So, I went through hell, who has the time? I work , I have a family

a house to take care of, big extended family- I found this support

group, and everyone had the same exact symptoms I did. That was

Enough for me- fought my insurance for three months to get it covered

(its a lot more $$ to get those puppies out , then in) , researched

like mad, traveled from IL to Georgia to get them out properly. My 2

hour explant surgery took almost 7 hours. I had infections

everywhere. My ribs had to be manually scraped, yucky capsules formed

around them, filling with gloppy dead tissue and full of infectious

crap. Had I known what the inside of a implanted women's body looked

like, I would have never gotten them. YUCK!

> I have more scars, a lot less money and sickness to fight because

of them. And guess what? I have my small breasts again. So why did I

ever do it? I am back at square one, little breasts and now with more

damage. I would tell you, they are not approved yet, they are high

maintenance, they are hard to sleep with, they are weird feeling. I

never slept one good night with them. No more belly sleeping!

> I couldn't breast feed, nobody knows the damage it does these

babies born to implanted women, all we do know is that silicone is

one of the few to cross the placenta, and is carcinogenetic. They are

a lot of upkeep, time of work to replace when ruptured, most do by 6

years. Who has time? No long term studies have ever been done on

them, as they got in ,before certain standards were started in the

FDA. And now, we are finding, a little too late- most of them have

leaky valves, making women very ill with infections that trigger

disease. Its like russion roulette to me. I wished I never got

them .That's why I stay here over two years to help others get the

other side, I never did. its just so wrong.

> I have proof they were making me ill, too. The rheumatoid

arthritis went into remission a year after the were removed ,and my

blood work showed huge improvements on my thyroid disease. Now all

the doctors believe me. (I did have two that did believe me towards

the end, before I got them out, as I was so ill)I am on my way to

remission. Listen any foreign object in your body, faulty or not, can

trigger auto immune illnesses. Why risk it? I wish I had the options,

as you do, and I would have never gotten them. Wondering, will I ever

get cancer, as the NCCI states we are at a three time risk higher for

cancers, or if Tyler will one day pay a price for being in a toxic

mother, but all I can do is pray and hope. I am getting better. Love

yourself, forget society, stay beautiful and real. You will thank

yourself for the rest of your life! Love

> Re: Hi I have lots of questions about

implants and am new here

>

> We are here only to help. I don't want to scare you away by

being too boldly so I will try identifying with you first. I was 30

when I got my implants and landed some money also. I can understand

you wanting to increase your bust size to even yourself out. First,