Re: Re: Prednisone/Rogene, , Shari, Beth, anyone else?

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Thanks for your input !

When I first got sick and started reading Dr. Weil's books, I remember his strong caution against taking any steroid based drugs. He even cautioned against taking over the counter steroid creams. He has a chapter in his book, "Natural Health, Natural Medicine", on How to Protect Your Immune System. He has several guidelines, and he states that all of the recommendations he gives for decreasing your risks of cancer also hold for protecting your immune system. Additionally, he gives these guidelines:

1. Do not allow infections to persist.

2. Do not use antibiotics indiscriminately

3. Avoid Immunosuppresive drugs (more on this below, check out the bold highlights)

4. Avoid blood transfusions

5. Avoid exposure to radiation

6. Avoid exposure to harmful chemicals

7. Eat a healthy diet

8. Take antioxidant supplements

9. Learn about foods and herbs that enhance immunity

10. Work at improving your mental and emotional health.

Here's the highlights from #3, avoiding immunosuppresive drugs in Dr. Weil's book:

"Examples of immunosuppressive drugs are the drugs used in cancer chemotherapy and those used to suppress rejection in patients receiving organ transplants. Another class of drugs with similar effects is cause for greater concern because it is much more commonly used. It is the corticosteroids, or steroids, derivatives and relatives of cortisone in widespread use for the treatment of allergies, autoimmune diseases, and inflammatory conditions. I consider them dangerous drugs, much misunderstood, abused, and overprescribed.

(Short discussion here of technical cortisone description, then continues with....)

Steroids cause allergies and inflammation to disappear as if by magic. In fact, the magic is nothing other than direct suppression of immune function. I have no objection to giving these strong drugs for very severe or life-threatening problems, but even then I think they should be limited to short-term use: no more than two or three weeks. I deplore prescription of steroids for illnesses of mild or moderate severity or for months and years at a time. I have known them to be given to patients with mild cases of poison ivy, infants with diaper rash, and adults with back pain and undiagnosable fatigue. Steroids are terribly toxic, cause dependence, suppress rather than cure disease, and reduce the chance of healing by natural methods of treatment. Moreover, they weaken immunity.

Even topical steroids are dangerous in my opinion. The medical profession is so unconscious of the hazards of these drugs that it allows steroidal ointments and creams to be sold over the counter. Many people apply them every day to skin rashes and irritations that could be much better dealt with by simple remedies. All of these products are absorbed through the skin to one degree or another, and all of them can suppress activity of the thymus, the lymph nodes, and the white blood cells.

In summary, do not use steroids in any form until you have exhausted all other possible treatments. If you must take a steroid for a severe problem, limit its use to a few weeks at most."

I found his book to be instrumental in setting me on the right path of healing. I highly recommend this book to everyone on the group.

For those interested in the recommendations for avoiding cancer, they are:

1. Avoid estrogen replacement therapy

2. Stay in good general health

3. Avoid exposure to harmful radiation (there is no such thing as a safe dose of radiation. Never believe anyone who tells you that the amount of radiation coming at you from any source is too small to matter.)

4.Protect your skin from Ultraviolet (tanning) radiation

5.Avoid exposure to harmful chemicals

6. Do not smoke

7. Do not drink alcohol heavily

8. Do not eat carcinogenic foods

9. Eat a healthy diet

10. Take antioxidant supplements

11. Exercise!

12. Practice safe sex

13. Work with your emotions

14. Protect your immune system

I love this stuff....Dr. Weil is one of my medical heroes.

PattyJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

Patty, you are so right. Prednisone works in a way to stop reaction and also and anything that stops us from reacting, is stopping us from healing. It is also very hard on the liver and kidney (with all the excess water) and when my cat Smokie had realy bad asthma for years, my vet would give him a prenisone shot about three times per year. I remember her telling me, his chances of getting diabetes were much greater, as the prednisone caused huge insulin surges and is so hard on the kidneys.(Not to mention the cancer risks) I read on it, ands it is one of the most commonly used meds, but also the most potent and risky Forget that! He is my favorite cat in the whole wide -a big all blue gray 20 pound male with green green eyes, who loves to be cuddles and held.I changed his diet, read alot that cats can be allergic to yellow corn or chicken, thuscreating alergies in other forms to come out-and put him on a turkey and barley. With more

fresh meats. I also put him on Fish oil and he no longer has this severe asthma issue.My vet is very impressed with me to say the least and asked me to type up a type of program that Smokey is following for her asthma patients. You know I did!

You so right, Patty. it is so bad, esp for us. Prednisone is an "immunosupressive corticosteriod." It is a suopressor on the immune system .We have have enough of that with those implants! It is used to stop and supress reactions, and functions. Mercolas articlea says it damages the immnue system , meaning it stops it from doing its job- and sets you up for cancers, osteoprosis and renal failure. Forget it. I was on it for I think 3 days after I had the bells pasly attack (the last year I had my implants) was supssed to be on for three weeks-and went off it, as I was feeling so darn angry!Pent up, and nervous.And I AM Not like that. Love __________________________________________________

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Hey, he covers all the bases. What a great read! Which book was it? I don’t use over the counter cortisone creams on my son's eczema. As I have read , this stops the body from doing its job of reacting and growing out of it, at the young age when they can do that. Thanks for the info RE: Re: Prednisone/Rogene, , Shari, Beth, anyone else?

Thanks for your input !

When I first got sick and started reading Dr. Weil's books, I remember his strong caution against taking any steroid based drugs. He even cautioned against taking over the counter steroid creams. He has a chapter in his book, "Natural Health, Natural Medicine", on How to Protect Your Immune System. He has several guidelines, and he states that all of the recommendations he gives for decreasing your risks of cancer also hold for protecting your immune system. Additionally, he gives these guidelines:

1. Do not allow infections to persist.

2. Do not use antibiotics indiscriminately

3. Avoid Immunosuppresive drugs (more on this below, check out the bold highlights)

4. Avoid blood transfusions

5. Avoid exposure to radiation

6. Avoid exposure to harmful chemicals

7. Eat a healthy diet

8. Take antioxidant supplements

9. Learn about foods and herbs that enhance immunity

10. Work at improving your mental and emotional health.

Here's the highlights from #3, avoiding immunosuppresive drugs in Dr. Weil's book:

"Examples of immunosuppressive drugs are the drugs used in cancer chemotherapy and those used to suppress rejection in patients receiving organ transplants. Another class of drugs with similar effects is cause for greater concern because it is much more commonly used. It is the corticosteroids, or steroids, derivatives and relatives of cortisone in widespread use for the treatment of allergies, autoimmune diseases, and inflammatory conditions. I consider them dangerous drugs, much misunderstood, abused, and overprescribed.

(Short discussion here of technical cortisone description, then continues with....)

Steroids cause allergies and inflammation to disappear as if by magic. In fact, the magic is nothing other than direct suppression of immune function. I have no objection to giving these strong drugs for very severe or life-threatening problems, but even then I think they should be limited to short-term use: no more than two or three weeks. I deplore prescription of steroids for illnesses of mild or moderate severity or for months and years at a time. I have known them to be given to patients with mild cases of poison ivy, infants with diaper rash, and adults with back pain and undiagnosable fatigue. Steroids are terribly toxic, cause dependence, suppress rather than cure disease, and reduce the chance of healing by natural methods of treatment. Moreover, they weaken immunity.

Even topical steroids are dangerous in my opinion. The medical profession is so unconscious of the hazards of these drugs that it allows steroidal ointments and creams to be sold over the counter. Many people apply them every day to skin rashes and irritations that could be much better dealt with by simple remedies. All of these products are absorbed through the skin to one degree or another, and all of them can suppress activity of the thymus, the lymph nodes, and the white blood cells.

In summary, do not use steroids in any form until you have exhausted all other possible treatments. If you must take a steroid for a severe problem, limit its use to a few weeks at most."

I found his book to be instrumental in setting me on the right path of healing. I highly recommend this book to everyone on the group.

For those interested in the recommendations for avoiding cancer, they are:

1. Avoid estrogen replacement therapy

2. Stay in good general health

3. Avoid exposure to harmful radiation (there is no such thing as a safe dose of radiation. Never believe anyone who tells you that the amount of radiation coming at you from any source is too small to matter.)

4.Protect your skin from Ultraviolet (tanning) radiation

5.Avoid exposure to harmful chemicals

6. Do not smoke

7. Do not drink alcohol heavily

8. Do not eat carcinogenic foods

9. Eat a healthy diet

10. Take antioxidant supplements

11. Exercise!

12. Practice safe sex

13. Work with your emotions

14. Protect your immune system

I love this stuff....Dr. Weil is one of my medical heroes.

PattyJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

Patty, you are so right. Prednisone works in a way to stop reaction and also and anything that stops us from reacting, is stopping us from healing. It is also very hard on the liver and kidney (with all the excess water) and when my cat Smokie had realy bad asthma for years, my vet would give him a prenisone shot about three times per year. I remember her telling me, his chances of getting diabetes were much greater, as the prednisone caused huge insulin surges and is so hard on the kidneys.(Not to mention the cancer risks) I read on it, ands it is one of the most commonly used meds, but also the most potent and risky Forget that! He is my favorite cat in the whole wide -a big all blue gray 20 pound male with green green eyes, who loves to be cuddles and held.I changed his diet, read alot that cats can be allergic to yellow corn or chicken, thuscreating alergies in other forms to come out-and put him on a turkey and barley. With more fresh meats. I also put him on Fish oil and he no longer has this severe asthma issue.My vet is very impressed with me to say the least and asked me to type up a type of program that Smokey is following for her asthma patients. You know I did!

You so right, Patty. it is so bad, esp for us. Prednisone is an "immunosupressive corticosteriod." It is a suopressor on the immune system .We have have enough of that with those implants! It is used to stop and supress reactions, and functions. Mercolas articlea says it damages the immnue system , meaning it stops it from doing its job- and sets you up for cancers, osteoprosis and renal failure. Forget it. I was on it for I think 3 days after I had the bells pasly attack (the last year I had my implants) was supssed to be on for three weeks-and went off it, as I was feeling so darn angry!Pent up, and nervous.And I AM Not like that. Love

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