Jeanine

[Guest guest]

If you hear of any shows in our area, please let me know. I would like to get rid of some of my wood things. I might try a little soap too, just to see how it goes. Thanks, Kathy

[Guest guest]

Oh my God, I am so sorry to hear about your mom, I had no idea. I was wondering why I never heard from you again. I know how draining all this can be. And now you have your husband to worry about. Sometimes you think it will never end. I will keep you and your husband in my prayers, I am sure he will be fine. Try and keep in touch and let me know how you are doing. I am hoping when everything settles down, we can get together again. I really enjoyed meeting you. Take care of yourself too, because you are no good to anyone if you are worn out. Look who is talking, I am about ready to fall apart, and the worst of it hasn't even started.

Talk to you real soon. Kathy

[Guest guest]

So sorry to hear about your mom. Our thoughts will be with you, your husband,

and family. Please let us know how your husband's surgery goes!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

[Guest guest]

Wow, you've been thru a bad year, too. My first husband had testicular

cancer when we were 26 yrs old. He, too, is a survivor. He's now 50

years old and has never had any cancer come back. Of course, it put

the cabash to us having any more kids after receiving the radiation

treatments, so we just had the one daughter. I am remarried after a divorce

and we have one daughter together so my kids are 12 years apart.

Hopefully, they got my father's cancer in time and it will not have spread.

I was at my father's camp this weekend and we were discussing the

radiation treatments which he will start this week. I got him laughing because

I said to him real seriously, "You know, Dad. There's one bad side effect of

the radiation I want you to know about. You and Mom can't think of having

any more kids." I thought he was going to fall off the picnic table bench. I

also told him that if he starts getting nautious, we'd find someone to get some

"weed" from for him to smoke. It really does help. The doctor even told my

husband that when he went thru it and that was back in 1978. I can't believe

they won't legalize it for people with cancer. That's just plain dumb, in my

opinion.

M

Prostate Rx

, Hope your Dad does well with the prostate treatment. My husband had radical surgery 6 years ago at Roswell. No positive nodes and is now a survivor!! Unfortunately he had a positive tumor on his kidney (unrelated) that was just removed last Thursday at Sister's Hosp. What a great place! He's been in ICU since and is doing better. I'm not, but this too shall pass. It's been a bad year for illness. My Mom passing in June, DH with his surgery and now I find out my sister fell over her Rottweiler and has a broken leg. 2002 can't come fast enough. Would like some time to soap. Maybe next week after my husband comes home.....JeanineJeanine's Hummingbird Soap Works

[Guest guest]

Welcome Jeanine,

I am a new resident to an area near Tampa. I moved from AZ where I had been

for 8 yrs in hopes to ease the symptoms of RA but not much luck. I have had

RA for almost 20 yrs so feel like an old timer in the group.

This group is wonderful....there is not much more than I can say except I

sincerely believe that the prayers of this group is powerful and I am so glad

that you found us and are a part of the group. Hopefully your sister will do

the same.

You both are in my prayers. Have a speedy recovery and feel free to ask any

questions you have

Joanne

Plant City Florida

[Guest guest]

Jeanine

Congrats on a great show. One question: What are " herbies " that the

kids go bonkers over?

Many subjects

Terry, so sorry you're sick again. That virus is so hard to shake.

Maybe a few weeks on the beach with a large margarita.....Sounds good

to me and boy I'd go in a heartbeat. Seriously, I hope you feel

better soon.

, been sending the junk mail back for a long time, especially to

the power company. What nerve to send me all that junk mail about

checks,etc. I think when they are tired of paying the extra postage

they may stop this. If you put on at least the first class stamp,

anything over is collected at point of delivery. I just stuff all

the junk back in. For some of the other mail, if they send a

stamped envelope, just seal the empty envelope and mail it back, the

company then has to pay the postage.

Shaye, read about your coming craft show. Best of luck. I just did

a two day show in ton. OMG, one of the best shows I have ever

done in my short history. There were two other soapers at the show

also. Never saw so many twenty's and fifty's in my life! My best

seller? Goat milk green tea and the bars for kids with toys in

thrm. I also make little'herbies' The kids go bonkers over these.

I haven't done any lotion or lip balms yet but did finally get the

shrink wrap I was looking for. Your things look so professional (saw

them on your site) that I don't think you'll have any problem. Is

this an outdoor or indoor show? Hope you sell all you bring. Let us

know how things went. Hope someone is with you for that all

important potty-break. Best of luck.

Jeanine

Jeanine's Hummingbird Soap Works

[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

Still behind in replying to messages but late is better than never.

Congratulations on doing so well at your ton show!

H.

<< I just did a two day show in ton. OMG, one of the best shows I

have ever done in my short history. >>

[Guest guest]

Stacey,

Thanks for the welcome!

I have not ended up in the ER with my recovery, but I am 3 1/2 weeks post

op, and been completely bed ridden, gradually up, and then completely bed

ridden again! I am a fast paced person, and this is driving me nuts! I am

finally starting to deal with the pain without having to take the percoset,

but I still have muscle spasms in my hip which of course puts pressure on

the sciatic nerve (the whole reason I had to have surgery in the first

place) and that causes a great deal of pain in the leg. The PT had me do

some different excersices over the weekend, and they seem to be helping, so

maybe this week I can SLOWLY work my back to normal. I am supposed to

return to work on the 22nd?! I don't know if that is going to happen or

not, but I stil have hope!

Joanne,

My hair loss was not immediate, nor as severe. I pull out a good number of

hairs every time I wash, comb, or just run my fingers through my hair, but

my hair has always been very thick, so it shows mostly up front. My mother

lost a lot of hair as a result of meds years ago for her MS. It got bad

enough that she almost got a wig. It upset her at the time, but looking

back, she comments that it would have been a small price to pay not to hurt.

Good luck with the decision making!

Jeanine

[Guest guest]

Iris,

I had a very large herniated disk from a trip on the stairs this summer.

When the doctor did the surgery, he found that it had actualy fragmented

into 3 pieces since the MRI. He couldn't believe I was doing anything! Let

alone working the day before surgery.

My RA is very new, and as yet I have not had any problems with erosion, bone

spurs, or other bone problems. Do they have any ideas on how to take care

of yours? It wouls pretty extensive and painful to boot!

Jeanine

[Guest guest]

Iris,

I am on Arava & Enbrel for my RA. THey have been working well for me since

about March. Hopefully, they will continute to do so, and prevent any

further problems.

Good luck on the knee surgery, and definitely see a doctor about the SI

joint. I know the feeling about seeing too many drs. 1 1/2 years ago, when

I was having my early problems, I was also seeing a Eurologist,

Opthamolgist, ENT, PCP & Rheumy. My husband started teasing that I spent

more time with my drs than with him! FOrtunately, the PCP and Rheumy are

the only ones I have to see very often anymore.

Jeanine

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanine,

I am glad that you are following dr's orders. I certainly paid the price

when I didn't. Don't rush things, if you are not ready to go back to work,

then just talk with your doc and I'm sure he/she won't rush you. I hope you

get some comfort soon.

Love and Hugs

Stacey in PA

[Guest guest]

Grace,

Dan has only just gotten back on his supps, and is still missing most of them. At this point one cannot adequartely evaluate the entire protocol with regard to Dan. When he was denied Flanagan's silica hydride last year he began to lose all the progress he was making in his recovery. He's only just getting the Active H- going, I think since September. He hasn't had any of Flanaga's silica hydrides since at least October of 2001. So, please keep in mind what the denial of Flanagan's Silica Hydrides cost my friend and many others who just gave up during that shameful time. And that maybe why Flanagan doesn't set aside funds for certain studies....all his money is tied up in lawsuites.

Have you even written to Dan? Did you give him a chance to tell you what it was like for him when he first experienced Flanagan's SH? He will be in detox for some time, and once he can afford to get the rest of the tools for the job, you will have a chance to see what we saw last year. That still leaves Glynda, hep2c@... whom you seemed to forget, or johnatoms@... who also received a clean bill of health from his docs.

And, I guess you can say any claim is unsubstantiated if you were not willing to look at all the evidence. I won't argue with you. But, if you don't beleive me, why not just leave me alone or provide proof of my fraud...and then let it be. Calling me a liar helps no one. Proving I have misrepresented myself, my recovery, or Nature will lay it all to rest. Let's leave personalities out of it, or leave it alone.

Peace, Jeanine

http://hepchelp.homestead.com

Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. Click Here

[Guest guest]

Yet more of the same, nothing but excuses and a bunch of verbal

diarrhea.

You hold Dan up as one of your 'recoveries', now when it's discovered

that he is not doing well – you have oh so many excuses for it.

Apparently now we are to only listen to how he was doing during a

particular time within this protocol – matters not that he may be

dying now? Let's just skip over that little detail, eh? You're the

one that held him up as an example, not me - I'm just merely doing my

homework. So, let me get this straight… one will do fine when taking

this protocol, however once you stop – within months you will be

dying again.

Doesn't hold water, whether there are hydrides in it or not... plain

and simple.

Jeanine - you're the one that came to this board making claims of

complete recovery from HCV, not I. Therefore you do have something

to prove. Back up what YOU say - or back off. I've never called you

a liar – I've only asked for proof of your claims that are not

testimonials.

Now we're down to one, MAYBE two people (that you're willing to refer

folks to anyway) that this protocol has helped. Let's see now… how

many are buying it? I'm not a math wizard, but the odds are not

looking good.

How long is it now that this protocol has been around? Where are all

the recoveries? With the claims you have made, I would assume there

would be hundreds if not thousands of these folks. Where are they?

[Guest guest]

Wow! These Doctors are so wonderful....huh??? Saw this at the forum you

recommended Amazing Grace.

Margie.

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From: Leeslady (CONNIE_LEE) Oct-21 7:41 pm

ALL (1 of 14)

3980.1

GMA1964, our beloved Terri, has missed 4 days of work in 8 weeks

due to tx.

Her job has written her up!

Her hepatologist, AND i say that grudgingly, refuses to help

her or fill out the Family Medical Leave Act...as does her family doc.

Instead her Hepatologist, Dr. Mallpeddi in lawrenceburg, Tn.

says he'll pull her off tx. if she needs to miss days!

Please help this hepper my friends! Thanks.

[ ] Jeanine

No thanks - you won't be making any deals with me... I've seen you

take enough heppers money with absolutely NO proof that your products

work, you will not be adding my name to your list . I question

everything and red flags are immediately raised when anyone touts

unsubstantiated claims, especially for cure alls.

I would venture to guess though that if this product does indeed do

all of things you testify it does - the maker of the product could

certainly set aside a small portion of their earnings and put all the

skeptics to rest by paying for your tests, especially considering

that you're one of the very rare ones (maybe the only one?) that went

from mild fibrosis to end stage and death's door in 18 months.

Now let's see... you mentioned 2 names that I recall that have

recovered from 'end stage' with this product. Glynda and Dan. Dan

has his own site at Delphi and for anyone interested in finding out

just how well his recovery is going, you might want to read this

recent post by his wife....

http://forums.delphiforums.com/Hepatitis Cen1/messages?msg=3804.1

So if that's your definition of 'recovery' - I'm not convinced the

Active H is working for him.

And I just want to clarify one other thing... " 90% of heppers are not

online, and most of people get back to life and work when they

recover, and don't live for the list anymore. " ... So all of these

many people to whom you refer to have 'recovered' from HepC via an

alternative method and have just gone quietly away? Sounds like more

excuses Jeanine and quite frankly - I think most people would scream

it from the rooftops if they were able to do it this way. I have a

tendency to think that it's quite the opposite - it didn't work for

them in the end and they won't talk about it - they probably feel

foolish for wasting money - that's the more likely story.

I'm not wrapped up in discrediting you - I'd love to know that this

product works. I want proof, I'm sure I'd even order it if it was

proven to work. Something tangible that makes sense to me and

doesn't insult my soul.

It's interesting how you view it as 'tearing down' though. I wonder

what you would say if ANY pharm company made the claims that you do

and had absolutely no proof to back it up with the exception of one

or two testimonials, now that I'd like to see. I call it doing my

homework and being informed.

Jeanine - I have run into you all over the net and on many message

boards. You're quite the cheerleader for anyone that does not

question you and you ultimately and always result to name calling

when some one does, rather than have an intelligent conversation.

Interesting tactic. I have found in my experiences that when one

gets defensive - they are usually in the wrong or guilty of something.

I remain,

Skeptical and glad to be.

[Guest guest]

Jeanine: I am so thankful that you are able to visit Debs. I know that must

have been a comfort for her. I just got back on the group list this week so

have been out of touch. Please tell her I am praying for her.

PS I am also glad that you are doing so well. Hope you have a painfree

week.

Jan in SC

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/28/2002 8:17:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, marjiro@... writes:

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From: Leeslady (CONNIE_LEE) Oct-21 7:41 pm

ALL (1 of 14)

3980.1

GMA1964, our beloved Terri, has missed 4 days of work in 8 weeks

due to tx.

Her job has written her up!

Her hepatologist, AND i say that grudgingly, refuses to help

her or fill out the Family Medical Leave Act...as does her family doc.

Instead her Hepatologist, Dr. Mallpeddi in lawrenceburg, Tn.

says he'll pull her off tx. if she needs to miss days!

Please help this hepper my friends! Thanks.

Find a new dr...........he is not worth it..........

[Guest guest]

I don't know Jeanine, personally --. I have never purchased anything from her nor has she pressured me to buy anything. IN fact, once I asked a question to the site regarding fluid build-up and she was the only one who answered me--where were you andy?--she had some very good advice which did not include any brand name products. She went on at length to help when clearly I was not going to buy anything.. I did not hear anything from you that was constructive, andy. Jeanine offers encouragement. She is generous with her time, kind and passionate about winning the battle against this disease. She's inspiring for that and you cant stand it. She has been positive, informative and funny--Please stop your constant cat fighting in your attempts to take over this site, andy-- and stop trying to police the rest of us-- and take control..

You claim your motives are true. You spend way to much time on only one subject. This is odd. You sound like you are playing an angle, Andy. I don't want to receive messages from you off the board, either. If you have anything to say please make it public or do not write me. You are not a friend I have a personal relationship with.

Re: [ ] ANDY do you need a quater for the

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[Guest guest]

Bottom line is....

1. I don't sell cures.

2. I sell nothing.

3. People have asked many times for Jenine to remove the links from her postings.

4. Her replies are generally laced with links to sites that sell product.

5. My motives are very simple. HCV is a very complicated disease. There are

no simple cures. Suggesting there are and profiting from that inference either

directly or indirectly will not be tolerated by me on my pharm boy soapbox.

Dpc wrote:

I don't know Jeanine, personally --. I have never purchased

anything from her nor has she pressured me to buy anything. IN fact, once

I asked a question to the site regarding fluid build-up and she was the

only one who answered me--where were you andy?--she had some very good advice

which did not include any brand name products. She went on at length to

help when clearly I was not going to buy anything.. I did not hear anything

from you that was constructive, andy. Jeanine offers encouragement. She

is generous with her time, kind and passionate about winning the battle

against this disease. She's inspiring for that and you cant stand it. She

has been positive, informative and funny--Please stop your constant cat

fighting in your attempts to take over this site, andy-- and stop trying

to police the rest of us-- and take control..

You claim your motives are true. You spend way to much time

on only one subject. This is odd. You sound like you are playing an angle,

Andy. I don't want to receive messages from you off the board, either.

If you have anything to say please make it public or do not write me. You

are not a friend I have a personal relationship with.

Re: [ ] 1-888-806-5263, call Jeanine

>Homestead costs $60.00 a year? You account costs $44.99. per

month

>minimum. Your toll free number seems to work just fine. I suppose

I

>dialled the wrong number.

[Guest guest]

(Okay Andy---I see you want more -- (insatiable is the word for the day.) I dont know how many times you are required by your handlers to repeat this mantra, but I hear you & I understand what you are saying and I am hoping not to hear it for awhile.)

>Bottom line is....>1. I don't sell cures. nope, you use scare tactics to herd people into the pharm borg>2. I sell nothing. only fear and chaos>3. People have asked many times for Jenine to remove the links from her postings. Thats what this site was about, or dont you remember in your zeal for take-over? It's all about links---If you dont like links being posted you should unsubscribe and move on.>4. Her replies are generally laced with links to sites that sell product. SO what? Most sites sell something, I dont have to buy and neither do you, andy! I also can change the station on the radio or unsub from this site if I like... Are you also on viagra, andy? Do you believe in better life through chemistry? Do you also think television, movies, books and radio are dangerous and should be sensored? Do you believe everything your government tells you? Do you regularly punch your fists into air at the inanity of the First Amndment? Do you also feel, andy, that jeanine should be banished to the 3rd rock from the sun and are you now or have you ever been a kicker for the Oakland Raiders--known for playing dirty? If you answered yes to any of the above, you need to sit yourself down and take a moment, better yet, take a bong along with you and sit yourself down, some quiet private place, andy, and try to let go, your knuckles must be white!....try to trust...in the universe--that it is indeed wiser than all of us put together. um...wouldn't that be nice? Just agree to disagree?

>5. My motives are very simple. HCV is a very complicated disease. There are no simple cures. Suggesting there are and profiting from that inference either directly or indirectly will not be tolerated by me on my pharm boy soapbox. So that must mean that every time a "new person" arrives I have to endure the soapbox pot debate and the natural vs. pharm angle--initiated by you or this "new person"???? If only the arguement was conclusive. It is not. Give it a rest, andy. please. We are all grown ups here. You promised!

[Guest guest]

That was outstanding!

> >(Okay Andy---I see you want more -- (insatiable is the word for the day.) I dont know how many times you are required by your handlers to repeat this mantra, but I hear you & I understand what you are saying and I am hoping not to hear it for awhile.) > > > >Bottom line is.... > > > >1. I don't sell cures. nope, you use scare tactics to herd people into the pharm borg > > >2. I sell nothing. only fear and chaos > > >3. People have asked many times for Jenine to remove the links from her postings. Thats what this site was about, or dont you remember in your zeal for take-over? It's all about links---If you dont like links being posted you should unsubscribe and move on. > > >4. Her replies are generally laced with links to sites that sell product. SO what? Most sites sell something, I dont have to buy and neither do you, andy! I also can change the station on the radio or unsub from this site if I like... Are you also on viagra, andy? Do you believe in better life through chemistry? Do you also think television, movies, books and radio are dangerous and should be sensored? Do you believe everything your government tells you? Do you regularly punch your fists into air at the inanity of the First Amndment? Do you also feel, andy, that jeanine should be banished to the 3rd rock from the sun and are you now or have you ever been a kicker for the Oakland Raiders--known for playing dirty? If you answered yes to any of the above, you need to sit yourself down and take a moment, better yet, take a bong along with you and sit yourself down, some quiet private place, andy, and try to let go, your knuckles must be white!....try to trust...in the universe--that it is indeed wiser than all of us put together. um...wouldn't that be nice? Just agree to disagree? > > >5. My motives are very simple. HCV is a very complicated disease. There are no simple cures. Suggesting there are and profiting from that inference either directly or indirectly will not be tolerated by me on my pharm boy soapbox. So that must mean that every time a "new person" arrives I have to endure the soapbox pot debate and the natural vs. pharm angle--initiated by you or this "new person"???? If only the arguement was conclusive. It is not. Give it a rest, andy. please. We are all grown ups here. You promised! > > > >

[Guest guest]

I agree, dpc----and personally, I'm using "delete" more and more with and Andy, because they're just here to confront and threaten, not to engage in constructive conversation....Satya

Re: [ ] Jeanine

(Okay Andy---I see you want more -- (insatiable is the word for the day.) I dont know how many times you are required by your handlers to repeat this mantra, but I hear you & I understand what you are saying and I am hoping not to hear it for awhile.)

>Bottom line is....>1. I don't sell cures. nope, you use scare tactics to herd people into the pharm borg>2. I sell nothing. only fear and chaos>3. People have asked many times for Jenine to remove the links from her postings. Thats what this site was about, or dont you remember in your zeal for take-over? It's all about links---If you dont like links being posted you should unsubscribe and move on.>4. Her replies are generally laced with links to sites that sell product. SO what? Most sites sell something, I dont have to buy and neither do you, andy! I also can change the station on the radio or unsub from this site if I like... Are you also on viagra, andy? Do you believe in better life through chemistry? Do you also think television, movies, books and radio are dangerous and should be sensored? Do you believe everything your government tells you? Do you regularly punch your fists into air at the inanity of the First Amndment? Do you also feel, andy, that jeanine should be banished to the 3rd rock from the sun and are you now or have you ever been a kicker for the Oakland Raiders--known for playing dirty? If you answered yes to any of the above, you need to sit yourself down and take a moment, better yet, take a bong along with you and sit yourself down, some quiet private place, andy, and try to let go, your knuckles must be white!....try to trust...in the universe--that it is indeed wiser than all of us put together. um...wouldn't that be nice? Just agree to disagree?

>5. My motives are very simple. HCV is a very complicated disease. There are no simple cures. Suggesting there are and profiting from that inference either directly or indirectly will not be tolerated by me on my pharm boy soapbox. So that must mean that every time a "new person" arrives I have to endure the soapbox pot debate and the natural vs. pharm angle--initiated by you or this "new person"???? If only the arguement was conclusive. It is not. Give it a rest, andy. please. We are all grown ups here. You promised!

[Guest guest]

Now I'm really stumped!!!!

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Hi , I use Outlook Express and am getting the strange characters

and fonts in your messages. Wonder what this phenomenon is?

Jeanine

[Guest guest]

So glad to hear your husband is improving. How is your hand? Talk

about your plate being full!!! Prayers to you both. Next weekend Oct.

11 & 12 is at the Niagara County Co-Operative Extension fair grounds

in Lockport...formerly the AppleFest now the Autumn Fest. Would be

great if you could stop in. I am inside the Marketplace building.Is

your hand in a cast...would make it easier for me to identify you.

(You are so clever...your soaps are 'too pretty to use'. Don't you

just hate that expression?) Hate that...I tell them...use them, I can

always make more.Kim C

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanine-good luck with your hand. Sounds like it takes a lot to slow you

down!

I'm really glad to hear that is getting good care, and is progressing

with his speech. Isn't it amazing what can be done? Who would have thought

that singing was the key to recover speech? Sending warmest wishes for a speedy

and full recovery for both of you!

Apples pies, swirling leaves, sweaters, couch time curled up with a hot cup

of coffee and good book by the fire, dramatic cloud formations in the sky-I

love this time of year!!

Carol J

[Guest guest]

Gee, I thought she would have had it by now and you were too busy to let

us all know. Well, at least you know she'll DEFINITELY be having it

probably by tonight. Best wishes to her and all your family.

Shaye

Your pics are awesome!! You never know what's going to sell. I sell

alot of Patchouli at town. Some on the Island. The pansies are

beautiful. Did you hear alot of 'oh, too pretty to use'? I keep

telling folks that soap is a renewable resource.

Still no baby but Val is in the hospital being induced as we speak.

Jeanine