Re: Re: hypercoagulation

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Kathy, All I can tell you is to keep doing what you are doing but just back off on the amounts and work up gradually. That's what we are having to do with my son. I give him the garlic in capsules (fresh) and sometimes he gets a headache too. Have you ever done a coffee enema? I think all this herxing shows just how toxic you are. That;s what my son's doctor said. He said we just have to go slower. Have you done much liver and lymph detox? These are two of the main pathways the body uses to eliminate toxins. I will pray for you. Love, Anita Re: hypercoagulation -AnitaI am glad to see that you and your son are still hanging in there!! Since your son is so much like me, I am just waiting to see how he does with this protocol. If he can make it through it and improve, then I certainly will give it a go!! I have been making the Brasco Broth that Jordin Rubin discusses in his books on getting well. I was working my way up with the ingredients because they contain things I know I will react to. For example, it calls for 4-6 cloves of garlic, at least 4 tbsp of coconut oil, lots of onion, etc. Well I did ok until I made the last soup. In that one I used 4 cloves of garlic and 2tbsp of coconut oil. The first time I ate it, within 15 minutes my hands started getting shooting pains and aching. The next day, I took it again, along with one milk thistle (just started taking one a day for the last couple of days.) Anyway, by that evening I had my herx headache and was soon in agony and vomiting. The next 2 days I ached alot more than normal. I had to take it easy as the headache was back too. I just can't tolerate the excruciating headaches/vomiting from detoxing etc. I just feel sometimes I willnever get past this and then I get really really down. So believe me, I can so feel for you and your son. I will keep you in my prayers. And I would appreciate it if all of you ladies would put me in yours to help me get past this block of progress from these incessant terrible herxes.love, kathy-- In , "anita kessler" <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> Rogene, I am pretty excited about this. It seems that most of us who have had the live cell analysis have had the hypercoagulation problem. As you may remember my son's was completely coagulated. When Dr. Brodsky pricked his finger he had to squeeze for several minutes just to get one drop of blood! And even now when he gets the IV's it takes a while for the blood to back up into the tube. Also, the post from Kathy about Hugh's Syndrome fits perfectly with this theory. One thing that I read that is a little scary is that if hypercoagulation is addressed using Warfarin and the patient happens to have an issue with candida it can throw them into toxic shock!> This protocol addresses heavy metal toxicity, biotoxins, hypercoagulation, toxic buildup in the liver and gallbladder and fibrin. All things that we all seem to be dealing with. And there is a very simple and inexpensive test called the visual contrast sensitivity test that will tell you if you have this. You can even take it on the net at DR. Richie Shoemaker's web site for about $9. > We are having to go slowly with my son as it seems he is extremely toxic. He herx's badly if we try to go too fast. Last week he had his first glutathione IV with 10cc and did fine. Then yesterday he had 12cc and herxed. It is very scary. He gets very angry and even violent. It breaks my heart because I know he can't control it. He is also getting mild silver protein IV's to address the enormous amount of bacteria in his blood and candida. I am supposed to do coffee enemas at home but I haven't yet because I am afraid of the herx. The heavy metal test should be back soon and I am anxious to see what it shows. I had them add platinum to the test but I don't know if it will be testing for the right kind of platinum. I'm kind of sketchy on that.> Anyway, as I said I have info for anyone who is interested in pursuing this. There is a place called Body Bio who I think does the testing for Kane, the lady who came up with the protocol. She is recommended on Mercola's site. Body Bio maintains a list of Drs. who have taken the course on this protocol. The more I read about it the more I think it would address many of our problems. They are using this protocol to address Chronic Fatigue, Fibro, Lyme, MS, and many ofther chronic conditions. http://wwwlymediseaseaudio.com/ Here is a link that has an audio of Dr. Shoemaker speaking about Lyme Disease. Scroll down to the bottom left and click on where it mentions Dr. Shoemaker's name. It is quite interesting. Even though he is talking about Lyme the info also pertains to all neurotoxins. Let me know what you think. Love, Anita> >

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Kathy, That is why I have been afraid to do one on my son. I know he would benefit greatly from it but as I have said when he herx's he just gets angry and even violent. You can look at his face and tell that he is being tortured by it. Once I was going to try to do a liver flush and he took on sip of the salty mixture and instantly got a headache. Now that is toxic in my estimation! It just means you have to go more slowly. Maybe a coffe enema for five minutes instead of fifteen or maybe some herbal cleanses. Just keep going. I think that is the important thing. You said you had a reaction to the sweating. Maybe you could do it for a shorter period. I haven't done much for my self lately but I am still benefitting from the ones that I did last year. At least now I can go for a short walk. Before I felt like I was going to faint just walking around the grocery store. Right now I am trying to get a green juice in and some garlic every day and I just bought a sleep formula from enxymatic therapies that seems to help me. Other than that I am concentrating on my son and it's a rocky road. One thing I will tell you about the chronic neurotoxic syndrome is that the poisons just keep circulating in the blood because the liver is blocked and that would lead me to believe that anything one does to cleanse the liver would be beneficial. Just keep going girl. Slowly. Love, Anita Re: hypercoagulation> > > > -> Anita> I am glad to see that you and your son are still hanging in there!! > Since your son is so much like me, I am just waiting to see how he > does with this protocol. If he can make it through it and improve, > then I certainly will give it a go!! > I have been making the Brasco Broth that Jordin Rubin discusses in > his books on getting well. I was working my way up with the > ingredients because they contain things I know I will react to. For > example, it calls for 4-6 cloves of garlic, at least 4 tbsp of > coconut oil, lots of onion, etc. Well I did ok until I made the > last soup. In that one I used 4 cloves of garlic and 2tbsp of > coconut oil. The first time I ate it, within 15 minutes my hands > started getting shooting pains and aching. The next day, I took it > again, along with one milk thistle (just started taking one a day > for the last couple of days.) Anyway, by that evening I had my herx > headache and was soon in agony and vomiting. The next 2 days I > ached alot more than normal. I had to take it easy as the headache > was back too. I just can't tolerate the excruciating > headaches/vomiting from detoxing etc. I just feel sometimes I > willnever get past this and then I get really really down. So > believe me, I can so feel for you and your son. I will keep you in > my prayers. And I would appreciate it if all of you ladies would > put me in yours to help me get past this block of progress from > these incessant terrible herxes.> love, kathy> > > > > > > > > > -- In , "anita kessler" > <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> > Rogene, I am pretty excited about this. It seems that most of us > who have had the live cell analysis have had the hypercoagulation > problem. As you may remember my son's was completely coagulated. > When Dr. Brodsky pricked his finger he had to squeeze for several > minutes just to get one drop of blood! And even now when he gets the > IV's it takes a while for the blood to back up into the tube. Also, > the post from Kathy about Hugh's Syndrome fits perfectly with this > theory. One thing that I read that is a little scary is that if > hypercoagulation is addressed using Warfarin and the patient happens > to have an issue with candida it can throw them into toxic shock!> > This protocol addresses heavy metal toxicity, biotoxins, > hypercoagulation, toxic buildup in the liver and gallbladder and > fibrin. All things that we all seem to be dealing with. And there > is a very simple and inexpensive test called the visual contrast > sensitivity test that will tell you if you have this. You can even > take it on the net at DR. Richie Shoemaker's web site for about $9. > > We are having to go slowly with my son as it seems he is extremely > toxic. He herx's badly if we try to go too fast. Last week he had > his first glutathione IV with 10cc and did fine. Then yesterday he > had 12cc and herxed. It is very scary. He gets very angry and even > violent. It breaks my heart because I know he can't control it. He > is also getting mild silver protein IV's to address the enormous > amount of bacteria in his blood and candida. I am supposed to do > coffee enemas at home but I haven't yet because I am afraid of the > herx. The heavy metal test should be back soon and I am anxious to > see what it shows. I had them add platinum to the test but I don't > know if it will be testing for the right kind of platinum. I'm kind > of sketchy on that.> > Anyway, as I said I have info for anyone who is interested in > pursuing this. There is a place called Body Bio who I think does > the testing for Kane, the lady who came up with the > protocol. She is recommended on Mercola's site. Body Bio maintains > a list of Drs. who have taken the course on this protocol. The > more I read about it the more I think it would address many of our > problems. They are using this protocol to address Chronic Fatigue, > Fibro, Lyme, MS, and many ofther chronic conditions. > http://www.lymediseaseaudio.com/ Here is a link that has an audio > of Dr. Shoemaker speaking about Lyme Disease. Scroll down to the > bottom left and click on where it mentions Dr. Shoemaker's name. It > is quite interesting. Even though he is talking about Lyme the info > also pertains to all neurotoxins. Let me know what you think. > Love, Anita> > > >> > > > > >