Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Hi. I am so glad you found this site. Your symptoms sound very typical of those suffered by people with implant illness. You are making a wise decision to get them out. I don't know of anyone in michigan, but Dr. Feng is in Ohio and that isn't real far away. I live in illinois and I travelled to see her. I wanted to make sure I went to someone competent and that also knew that implants make you sick. I would not go to your implanting surgeon. He almost certainly will insist that implants are safe and that your symptoms are not related. He will not be interested in taking them out properly either. That means removing the whole capsule along with the implant. Most women who get explanted are able to regain a good measure of their health. When that happens or how that happens is variable. Some women notice remarkable improvement as soon as they are out. Others may worsen, improve, worsen, improve ....until they start to make some steady progress getting better. Most of us on this site have had to make alot of changes besides getting explanted to recover health. In the files section you can find alot of info on ways to recover your health. We will support you in any way we can. Hugs, kathy > > Hi everyone. My sister and I had Mentor, smooth, round silicone > outer, saline filled implants just over two years ago. We both are > experiencing problems. My sister is worse than myself. She has > recently been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Today she saw her > orthodontist and they discussed my sister's symptoms. During this > discussion it was asked by the Dr. if my sister had implants. Upon > finding she did the Orthodontist suggested that our problems may be > due to the implants. Being the nosey one in the family, I went to > work on the internet to see if I could find anything out and > stumbled upon this site. Both of our problems began immediately > after the implants were put in, but neither my sister nor I gave a > thought as to it could be the implants. Our symptoms began > gradually, but over the course of two years here is what some of my > sister's symptoms are: forgetfulness, dizziness, horrible > body/muscle/joint aches, near constant pain all over her body, hair > loss, extreme fatique, yeast infections (one right after the other), > slurred speech at times, anxiety, foginess in her head...the list > does go on. > > As for myself, I'm just beginning to feel symptoms similar to my > sisters. My sisters began right after the implants and have gotten > much worse over the past 2 years. My symptoms include frequent > sinus infections that will not go away...I've had sinus problems for > about 10 years, but never as frequent and never ones that required > the use of steroids to go away. I get upper respiratory infections > frequently. I'm dizzy and it's getting worse...I usually have to > hold on to the sides of the wall as I'm going downstairs, blurred > vision at times, my head seems to be in a constant fog, my feet hurt > when I first get up for about a half an hour or so, my legs are > getting achy and are staying that way; the left is worse than the > right, my left implant has never felt right...it feels as if > something is rubbing on my skin and wants to get out...I'm very, > very tired...it's all I can do most mornings to drag myself out of > bed and get to work, but I have to so I do. My hair is falling out > in droves...thank God I've always had an extremely thick head of > hair...I can honestly say if I didn't have, I would be bald by now. > Honestly. I also have a rash that comes and goes. Now I have one > on my face that I got immediately after a facial I had gotten in my > PS's office...done by a licensed estician. As each day goes by I > feel both myself, and definitely my sister, getting worse. I'm not > bad now, but my sister is very bad and getting worse. > > Does anyone know of anyone in southeast Michigan that could help > us. We did have what we believe to be a good plastic surgeon who > did our implant surgery, but not sure if we should bring > this up to him. When I told him right after my surgery that my left > implant doesn't feel right (and I went back a few times because of > it)the final outcome of those visits was it was the imperfections of > having something done. They do look good, but that's not what I > wanted to hear. What should we do? We're at a loss as to where to > proceed from here. > > Thank you so much for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they covered the whole procedure. Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Elaine, I had Mcghan textured implants and had very bad capsular contraction, I really wouldnt recommend them. Are you experiencing any symptoms? I went to Dr. Darrow in Massachusetts. I have heard of Dr. Huang but I dont know anything about her. What state are you in? Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth types now.Part of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture. You are fortunate to have good insurance. Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. ElaineBARBY4271@... wrote: My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they covered the whole procedure. Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Implants with texture are more prone to infection. Lynda At 04:22 PM 11/6/2004, you wrote: >Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It >will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an >implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth >types now.Part of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant >and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with >texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture. >You are fortunate to have good insurance. >Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good >and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. Elaine > >BARBY4271@... wrote: >My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular >contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they >covered the whole procedure. >Barby > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Elaine, I had textured implants and immediately got capsular contracture. Anita Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth types now.Part of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture. You are fortunate to have good insurance. Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. ElaineBARBY4271@... wrote: My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they covered the whole procedure. Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Elaine, If salines are safe then why are so many of us sick from them? I also dont believe textured are any better I had them and got cap. contraction within a couple of yrs. What are you going to do if you get it again? Just having to think about facing another surgery is scary and its going to cost more in the long run if you have them replaced. Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Barby, I have Mentor smooth. Dr. Huang in Denver suggests the implants with the added texture to prevent capsular. The symptoms I have a shooting pain and hardness. I live in Michigan. I thought about getting them out and a lift . On Ileans group many women went to Dr. Feng and got good results but I can't sell the farm to pay for this. Replacement might be my best option. Dr. Huang does replacement with good results this is what they tell me. Her website shows good implant replacement photos. There is also an informative link on her sire all about implants. I am glad that I asked about silicone implants because her assistant told me there are problems with these but the salines are safe except for infection or capsular. Read all about it on her site. I am impressed with the thorough information on Dr. Huang's site. I need to find out the whole cost for replacement before I decide what to do.Thanks.ElaineBARBY4271@... wrote: Elaine,I had Mcghan textured implants and had very bad capsular contraction, I really wouldnt recommend them. Are you experiencing any symptoms? I went to Dr. Darrow in Massachusetts. I have heard of Dr. Huang but I dont know anything about her. What state are you in? Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Elaine, I think in the end you will find that explantation and lift will be more cost effective as well as healthy. Anita Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems Barby, I have Mentor smooth. Dr. Huang in Denver suggests the implants with the added texture to prevent capsular. The symptoms I have a shooting pain and hardness. I live in Michigan. I thought about getting them out and a lift . On Ileans group many women went to Dr. Feng and got good results but I can't sell the farm to pay for this. Replacement might be my best option. Dr. Huang does replacement with good results this is what they tell me. Her website shows good implant replacement photos. There is also an informative link on her sire all about implants. I am glad that I asked about silicone implants because her assistant told me there are problems with these but the salines are safe except for infection or capsular. Read all about it on her site. I am impressed with the thorough information on Dr. Huang's site. I need to find out the whole cost for replacement before I decide what to do.Thanks.ElaineBARBY4271@... wrote: Elaine,I had Mcghan textured implants and had very bad capsular contraction, I really wouldnt recommend them Are you experiencing any symptoms? I went to Dr. Darrow in Massachusetts. I have heard of Dr. Huang but I dont know anything about her. What state are you in? Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Anita, Where were your implants placed? Maybe your plastic surgeon didn't do your surgery very well?How long ago was your implants put in and taken out? Elaine.anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote: Elaine, I had textured implants and immediately got capsular contracture. Anita Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth types now.Part of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture. You are fortunate to have good insurance. Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. ElaineBARBY4271@... wrote: My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they covered the whole procedure. Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Lynda, Who are these biochemists and where can I read their publications?Does Dr. Huang know these biochemists?ElaineLynda <coss@...> wrote: I have heard doctors say this, but the women do not agree. They seem to have as many problems, and the little areas in the textured surface are what seems to cause problems with infection, according to the biochemists we have spoken with.LyndaAt 11:43 AM 11/7/2004, you wrote:>Lynda,> Where did you get that information because I did not hear that from Dr. > Huang's assistant. She told me that they are the same as smooth as but > much less risk of capsular.I was told about infection because that is the > big risk with implants that and capsular but otherwise saltwater implants > are safe. Also improper positioning is the other problem. I am so glad I > don't have that problem too. Thank you for your help with Dr. Huang. I am > glad you wrote to me about her. I think the photos on her website are > impressive and she has talent.I showed my husband and he agrees. I like > the liposuction results too but mainly the breast surgeries, both the > breast reductions and augmentations. I hope I can get a good price on > the texture replacements or I'll be back in the same rut. I would not > care if I were working but I am in school dependent on my husband. If I > didn't have the pain with the capsular, I would leave it alone until > school is out. Thank you again.Elaine>>Lynda wrote:>>Implants with texture are more prone to infection.>>Lynda>>>At 04:22 PM 11/6/2004, you wrote:> >Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It> >will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an> >implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth> >types now.Part of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant> >and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with> >texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture.> >You are fortunate to have good insurance.> >Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good> >and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. > Elaine> >> >BARBY4271@... wrote:> >My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular> >contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they> >covered the whole procedure.> >Barby> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 There is always a bias among plastic surgeons, but Dr. Pierre Blais is in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, and knows a great deal about implants. I am sure Dr. Huang has heard all this, and yes, she does know Dr. Blais, as she did conferences many times when he also presented. Lynda At 12:25 PM 11/7/2004, you wrote: >Lynda, >Who are these biochemists and where can I read their publications?Does Dr. >Huang know these biochemists?Elaine > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: > >I have heard doctors say this, but the women do not agree. They seem to >have as many problems, and the little areas in the textured surface are >what seems to cause problems with infection, according to the biochemists >we have spoken with. > >Lynda > >At 11:43 AM 11/7/2004, you wrote: > >Lynda, > > Where did you get that information because I did not hear that from Dr. > > Huang's assistant. She told me that they are the same as smooth as but > > much less risk of capsular.I was told about infection because that is the > > big risk with implants that and capsular but otherwise saltwater implants > > are safe. Also improper positioning is the other problem. I am so glad I > > don't have that problem too. Thank you for your help with Dr. Huang. I am > > glad you wrote to me about her. I think the photos on her website are > > impressive and she has talent.I showed my husband and he agrees. I like > > the liposuction results too but mainly the breast surgeries, both the > > breast reductions and augmentations. I hope I can get a good price on > > the texture replacements or I'll be back in the same rut. I would not > > care if I were working but I am in school dependent on my husband. If I > > didn't have the pain with the capsular, I would leave it alone until > > school is out. Thank you again.Elaine > > > >Lynda wrote: > > > >Implants with texture are more prone to infection. > > > >Lynda > > > > > >At 04:22 PM 11/6/2004, you wrote: > > >Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It > > >will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an > > >implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth > > >types n ow.Part of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant > > >and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with > > >texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture. > > >You are fortunate to have good insurance. > > >Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good > > >and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. > > Elaine > > > > > >BARBY4271@... wrote: > > >My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular > > >contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they > > >covered the whole procedure. > > >Barby > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 I had them put in in 1990. They were my third set of implants. I finally was explanted for good in 1993. Love, Anita Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems Barby, I have an HMO through my husband's work. My capsular is over 4. It will be less money to replace them. Dr. Huang's assistant suggested an implant with texture to prevent capsular contractor. I have saline smooth types nowPart of me wants to just get them out for good but the explant and mastopexcy is so costly. I might just get the better implants with texture on them so I don't get a repeat of the capsular contracture. You are fortunate to have good insurance. Who is your doctor? Have you heard of Dr Huang?Lynda said she is very good and her website says she has been on the news in Denver which is good. ElaineBARBY4271@... wrote: My health ins. paid for my explant also due to the grade IV capsular contraction. I have Blue Cross Health mate coast to coast and they covered the whole procedure. Barby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who all re-implant and all tell us how " safe " either the smooth or the textured saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed. I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because to dwell on it would make me crazy. By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang with it. Lynda At 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: >Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells >you that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died >from implants? Love, Anita > > Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems > > >Hi, >I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and >women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at >working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably >priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said. > >All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when they are >good at removal. > >Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding >capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur, >because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants. > >Lynda > > > >At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I > >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote to me > >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go > >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and > >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you > >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular > >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out on her > >website <http://www.lindahuangmd.com>www.lindahuangmd.com and she > >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. Huang's > >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough > >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you > >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture > >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am > >gett > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Someone tell me about Dr. Malmed please. I asked you in my email but you said Dr. Huang was the one who was best for this and less expensive then Malmed or Dr. Feng in Ohio.ElaineLynda <coss@...> wrote: I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who all re-implant and all tell us how "safe" either the smooth or the textured saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed.I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because to dwell on it would make me crazy.By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang with it.LyndaAt 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:>Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells >you that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died >from implants? Love, Anita>> Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems>>>Hi,>I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and>women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at>working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably>priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said.>>All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when they are>good at removal.>>Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding>capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur,>because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants.>>Lynda>>>>At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:> >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I> >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote to me> >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go> >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and> >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you> >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular> >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out on her> >website www.lindahuangmd.com and she> >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. Huang's> >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough> >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you> >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture> >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am> >gett>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Yes, I said she was ONE of the best and less expensive. Lynda At 10:46 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: >Someone tell me about Dr. Malmed please. I asked you in my email but you >said Dr. Huang was the one who was best for this and less expensive then >Malmed or Dr. Feng in Ohio.Elaine > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: > >I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who >all re-implant and all tell us how " safe " either the smooth or the textured >saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do >it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed. > >I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes >them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because >to dwell on it would make me crazy. > >By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang with it. > >Lynda > >At 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > >Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is > >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with > >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells > >y ou that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture > >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured > >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is > >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them > >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that > >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died > >from implants? Love, Anita > > > > Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems > > > > > >Hi, > >I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and > >women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at > >working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably > >priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said. > > > >All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when they are > >good at removal. > > > >Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding > >capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur, > >because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants. > > > >Lynda > > > > > > > >At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > > >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I > > >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote to me > > >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go > > >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and > > >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you > > >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular > > >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out on her > > >website www.lindahuangmd.com and she > > >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. Huang's > > >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough > > >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you > > >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture > > >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am > > >gett > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Elaine, Read all the stories in our files section from women who have had implants. This will reveal volumes. Here is the link: /files/Implant%20and%20Explant%20Stories/ Pattyl love <briansgirl302@...> wrote: Anita, When you say implants can make you sick and many have died, do you mean by disease or suicide? Do you mean silicone's or saline implants? Where can I read this? Elaine__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Elaine, Excellent....we recommend explant with no replacement on this group for the many reasons you will see when you read the stories from women who have suffered. It's the smart thing to do for long term health and peace. It's your choice, and we wish you the best. Pattyl love <briansgirl302@...> wrote: Tricia, I was given both options. Explant and lift or replacement. Elaine__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 HI , I am glad you are researching this. Be prepared to get objections from your plastic surgeon about every one of our concerns. He will pooh pooh them. My implanting doctor had pat answers for all of these after I got sick, but I was sick nonetheless! My answers are below.stacydel34 <stacydel34@...> wrote: I am open minded to all of this, like I said in the beginning my goal is to get information and be very knowledgable by the time I see my Plastic surgeon for consult. You missed a few of my questions so I will list them here for you to answer ok?1. Is there any implant that is safe? Not that we know of, none at all. All have silicone, just different fillers, and all those fillers have their own problems. Every kind of implant that has ever been used has had reactions reported to the FDA. 2. What are the types of lifts that can be done, or can they do anything else to lift and make breasts fuller? There are several different kinds of lifts, but you will have to ask your doctor about them. I think the lollipop is the best way to go. The anchor is outdated. There is also the donut lift, but I have heard these leave puckers, much like when you try to sew too much fabric into a hemline. Your doctor can offer his/her professional advice on the best for you. 3. What do you know about the Dr's mentioned? There are some very excellent doctors out there. I tend to recommend Dr. LuFeng most highly. She seems to be the most ethical, trustworthy doctor we know of when it comes to implants, and is exceptionally talented. I believe you can find her email on her web address: www.drfeng.com Do you have email addresses so I can write to them all and ask about their opinions? 's doctor was Dr. Kolb. Her email address can be found at www.plastikos.com You will also find more information there about the silicone controversy. 4. do any health problems run in your family history that could explain your sickness? Most of us would answer that question NO. There was no history of autoimmune disease in my family at all. None.5. What do you know about liposuction? Have any of you had it? I haven't had it done. A few members have. I hope they write you.6. Have any of the women with implants that got sick been 100% cured after getting them out? In the 6+ years that I have been involved in the breast implant issue, I have not seen anyone get 100% better. Many get ALOT better, but still struggle with some residual health issues. Meaning no left over diseases? Not that I know of. I thought I read somewhere that some women have been cured after removal but maybe that was on another site. I guess it depends on how you want to define "cured". I consider myself cured for the most part. But it is not 100%. Maybe 99%! But I still have Hashimoto's disease. 7. What are the most common illnesses that come with implants and is there a way to test or to know if you are prone to these ahead of implating so that you can be watchful of signs and symptoms. Check the manufacturers insert regarding this question. It may be a good idea to get a baseline autoimmune panel before getting implants (I wish they would require this in fact), so that you can have a way to compare if you do get sick and know that the implants were the cause. The most common illnesses are autoimmune in nature, but they don't always fit the mold for those diseases entirely. They mimic them in alot of cases. That is why there was a new disease that was named when this all first started hitting the media, but politics got in the way and it was not recognized. Autoimmune diseases themselves are hard to diagnose, and may take years to actually become manifest, as they share alot of common symptoms. This would include lupus, scleroderma, multiple sclerosis, sjogrens syndrome, fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, all very frightening diseases, with no known cures.allot of questions! I am sorry about that! this way you can answer them more thoroughly in a list.I am also wondering what type of lifts for scaring and results. Do the results last or can you sag again in a few years? I had an anchor lift, which left scars along the crease in my breasts. They say that over time you can sag again in a few years, but so far, so good for me, they are quite perky. I don't see any kind of sag happening for a long time. I wish I had just gotten a lift instead of implants from the beginning.Thank you I appreciate your time You're welcome!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 I wish I knew! I think textured are bad for sure, but I think it also depends on other factors, such as an individual persons toxic load at the time of implantation, and how well their liver detoxification pathways work. Some people just have a more sluggish liver or a generally less vital immune system. Hormones fit into the picture here probably as well, and that might be tied into the liver function, since the liver has to break down hormones. Genetics also can possibly play a role, I wish somehow they would get this figured out so we have something to go on that is solid! You sure got very sick with the smooth ones, once your body decided it couldn't take it anymore. I am so happy you have healed as much as you have already. I was really surprised at the results of our poll, which showed that women with smooth salines were getting just as sick as women with textured. I think it is so utterly careless of the plastic surgery field to be pushing implants so gleefully before they have answers to these important questions. Pure foolishness, but they are smiling all the way to the bank, so they have no reason to stop. PattyJOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote: Patty, I have noticed the girls that get sick real fast are the textured ones. .Like and you ,while it took me almost 7 years to react with smooths. I know I have been told that there is more silicone flaking, right away, and more amounts of it with textured- so I'm wondering if this is why there was a reaction so quickly. While, the smooth reaction time can be slower, unless a leak with the valve. What do you think? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Patty, Thank you. Are you feeling as confused as I am about my last post? ElaineTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Elaine, Read all the stories in our files section from women who have had implants. This will reveal volumes. Here is the link: /files/Implant%20and%20Explant%20Stories/ Pattyl love <briansgirl302@...> wrote: Anita, When you say implants can make you sick and many have died, do you mean by disease or suicide? Do you mean silicone's or saline implants? Where can I read this? Elaine __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Lynda, Not exactly. I looked back at my email and you said that Dr. Huang is "excellent" and in another letter "I sincerely think you could not do better." That tells me she is the best choice even if the words are different. I hope she is because I am going to Denver to see her.You said Dr. Melmed was "good", but somewhat expensive. Feng is expensive, I do know that because I called them. ElaineLynda <coss@...> wrote: Yes, I said she was ONE of the best and less expensive.LyndaAt 10:46 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:>Someone tell me about Dr. Malmed please. I asked you in my email but you >said Dr. Huang was the one who was best for this and less expensive then >Malmed or Dr. Feng in Ohio.Elaine>>Lynda wrote:>>I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who>all re-implant and all tell us how "safe" either the smooth or the textured>saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do>it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed.>>I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes>them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because>to dwell on it would make me crazy.>>By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang with it.>>Lynda>>At 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:> >Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is> >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with> >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells> >y ou that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture> >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured> >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is> >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them> >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that> >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died> >from implants? Love, Anita> >> >----- Original Message -----> >From: Lynda> >Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:00 PM> > > >Subject: Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems> >> >> >Hi,> >I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and> >women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at> >working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably> >priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said.> >> >All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when they are> >good at removal.> >> >Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding> >capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur,> >because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants.> >> >Lynda> >> >> >> >At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:> > >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I> > >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote to me> > >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go> > >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and> > >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you> > >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular> > >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out on her> > >website www.lindahuangmd.com and she> > >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. Huang's> > >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough> > >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you> > >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture> > >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am> > >gett> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Yes, she is excellent, and you could not do better. Others are also excellent. It is not mutually exclusive to have an excellent doctor. I do not wish to argue over doctors. It gets us nowhere. Lynda At 05:44 PM 11/9/2004, you wrote: >Lynda, >Not exactly. I looked back at my email and you said that Dr. Huang is > " excellent " and in another letter " I sincerely think you could not do >better. " That tells me she is the best choice even if the words are >different. I hope she is because I am going to Denver to see her.You said >Dr. Melmed was " good " , but somewhat expensive. Feng is expensive, I do >know that because I called them. Elaine > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: > >Yes, I said she was ONE of the best and less expensive. > >Lynda > > >At 10:46 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > >Someone tell me about Dr. Malmed please. I asked you in my email but you > >said Dr. Huang was the one who was best for this and less expensive then > >Malmed or Dr. Feng in Ohio.Elaine > > > >Lynda wrote: > > > >I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who > >all re-implant and all tell us how " safe " either the smooth or the textured > >saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do > >it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed. > > > >I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes > >them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because > >to dwell on it would make me crazy. > > > >By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang > with it. > > > >Lynda > > > >At 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > > >Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is > > >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with > > >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells > > >y ou that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture > > >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured > > >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is > > >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them > > >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that > > >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died > > >from implants? Love, Anita > > > > > > Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > >I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and > > >women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at > > >working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably > > >priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said. > > > > > >All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when > they are > > >good at removal. > > > > > >Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding > > >capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur, > > >because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants. > > > > > >Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > >At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > > > >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I > > > >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote > to me > > > >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go > > > >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and > > > >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you > > > >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular > > > >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out > on her > > > >website www.lindahuangmd.com and she > > > >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. > Huang's > > > >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough > > > >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you > > > >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture > > > >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am > > > >gett > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Lynda I am not here to argue I came here to get educated about implants and possible risks. My question to you was simple, if a surgeon does not discuss these risks to the patient then how can the patient be getting informed? Isn't it Dr Huangs and these others responsibility to inform those like me researching implants? I feel that my surgeon is looking worse and worse every minute. He has not once mentioned anything about health risks only local complications. If you are really a woman that was sickened by implants I am shocked that you would feel it is not important for the surgeon we chose to tell us the facts. does Dr Huang tell patients the truth about implants possibly causing health problems? I am wating for her to email me back, so if you don't know, I am sure when she emails me I will have an answer for you and then I can share it here with everyone.We can all be happy that way. In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > Yes, she is excellent, and you could not do better. Others are also > excellent. It is not mutually exclusive to have an excellent doctor. > > I do not wish to argue over doctors. It gets us nowhere. > > Lynda > > > At 05:44 PM 11/9/2004, you wrote: > >Lynda, > >Not exactly. I looked back at my email and you said that Dr. Huang is > > " excellent " and in another letter " I sincerely think you could not do > >better. " That tells me she is the best choice even if the words are > >different. I hope she is because I am going to Denver to see her.You said > >Dr. Melmed was " good " , but somewhat expensive. Feng is expensive, I do > >know that because I called them. Elaine > > > >Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > >Yes, I said she was ONE of the best and less expensive. > > > >Lynda > > > > > >At 10:46 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > > >Someone tell me about Dr. Malmed please. I asked you in my email but you > > >said Dr. Huang was the one who was best for this and less expensive then > > >Malmed or Dr. Feng in Ohio.Elaine > > > > > >Lynda wrote: > > > > > >I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who > > >all re-implant and all tell us how " safe " either the smooth or the textured > > >saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do > > >it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed. > > > > > >I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes > > >them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because > > >to dwell on it would make me crazy. > > > > > >By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang > > with it. > > > > > >Lynda > > > > > >At 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > > > >Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is > > > >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with > > > >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells > > > >y ou that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture > > > >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured > > > >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is > > > >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them > > > >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that > > > >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died > > > >from implants? Love, Anita > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and > > > >women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at > > > >working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably > > > >priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said. > > > > > > > >All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when > > they are > > > >good at removal. > > > > > > > >Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding > > > >capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur, > > > >because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants. > > > > > > > >Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote: > > > > >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I > > > > >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote > > to me > > > > >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go > > > > >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and > > > > >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you > > > > >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular > > > > >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out > > on her > > > > >website www.lindahuangmd.com and she > > > > >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. > > Huang's > > > > >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough > > > > >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you > > > > >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture > > > > >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am > > > > >gett > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Lynda, I don't either because if she is good, I am going! ElaineLynda <coss@...> wrote: Yes, she is excellent, and you could not do better. Others are also excellent. It is not mutually exclusive to have an excellent doctor.I do not wish to argue over doctors. It gets us nowhere.LyndaAt 05:44 PM 11/9/2004, you wrote:>Lynda,>Not exactly. I looked back at my email and you said that Dr. Huang is >"excellent" and in another letter "I sincerely think you could not do >better." That tells me she is the best choice even if the words are >different. I hope she is because I am going to Denver to see her.You said >Dr. Melmed was "good", but somewhat expensive. Feng is expensive, I do >know that because I called them. Elaine>>Lynda wrote:>>Yes, I said she was ONE of the best and less expensive.>>Lynda>>>At 10:46 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:> >Someone tell me about Dr. Malmed please. I asked you in my email but you> >said Dr. Huang was the one who was best for this and less expensive then> >Malmed or Dr. Feng in Ohio.Elaine> >> >Lynda wrote:> >> >I have been discouraged for years with almost all our plastic surgeons who> >all re-implant and all tell us how "safe" either the smooth or the textured> >saline implants are. I have just given up on fighting it, as they ALL do> >it. If there is one that does not, it may be Dr. Melmed.> >> >I am generally just grateful that we can find someone who actually removes> >them properly. So, I focus on the good points and let the rest go, because> >to dwell on it would make me crazy.> >> >By the way, if I had to have plastic surgery, I would trust Dr. Huang > with it.> >> >Lynda> >> >At 05:55 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:> > >Elaine, I think we need to make a distinction. It seems that Dr. Huang is> > >a good surgeon as many women have been pleased with their outcomes with> > >her. However, most if not all of us would disagree with anyone who tells> > >y ou that any implant is safe or that there is less capsular contracture> > >with the textured versus the smooth. As I said before I had the textured> > >implants and experienced contracture within weeks and I think Lynda is> > >right in saying that once you have had it the body seems to react to them> > >faster. Do you really want to gamble with your health knowing that> > >thousands and thousand of women have become seriously ill and even died> > >from implants? Love, Anita> > >> > > Re: Re: Sisters...Experiencing health problems> > >> > >> > >Hi,> > >I think that many of us care about what happens to all implanted women and> > >women thinking about implants. And there are many doctors who are good at> > >working on capsular contracture, Huang is one of the most reasonably> > >priced. She is one of the best, which is what I said.> > >> > >All doctors seem to put in implants and make $$ from it, even when > they are> > >good at removal.> > >> > >Most of us would disagree that textured implants are better at avoiding> > >capsular contracture. Once that you have this problem, it seems to recur,> > >because it is a sign that you body is rejecting implants.> > >> > >Lynda> > >> > >> > >> > >At 01:44 PM 11/8/2004, you wrote:> > > >Patty, I never even knew what an implant with texture was until I> > > >contacted Dr. Huang in Denver. Lynda the leader of this group wrote > to me> > > >in a personal email and told me that Dr. Huang was the best doctor to go> > > >to for my problem which is capsular contracture. I took her advice and> > > >called Dr. Huang and I have I'm am getting a cold vibe from some of you> > > >because the choice I am making because of my problem of capsular> > > >contracture. I explained why which is in plain English spelled out > on her> > > >website www.lindahuangmd.com and she> > > >explains the risks of breast implants very well. If you think Dr. > Huang's> > > >material is not truthful, why is the group member Lynda who cared enough> > > >to write to me, in fact the only person to write to me, why are you> > > >recommending this doctor and have her patients pictures in your picture> > > >box if you don't seem to appreciate what she is telling me? I feel I am> > > >gett> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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