Re: hypercoagulation

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Anita

I am glad to see that you and your son are still hanging in there!!

Since your son is so much like me, I am just waiting to see how he

does with this protocol. If he can make it through it and improve,

then I certainly will give it a go!!

I have been making the Brasco Broth that Jordin Rubin discusses in

his books on getting well. I was working my way up with the

ingredients because they contain things I know I will react to. For

example, it calls for 4-6 cloves of garlic, at least 4 tbsp of

coconut oil, lots of onion, etc. Well I did ok until I made the

last soup. In that one I used 4 cloves of garlic and 2tbsp of

coconut oil. The first time I ate it, within 15 minutes my hands

started getting shooting pains and aching. The next day, I took it

again, along with one milk thistle (just started taking one a day

for the last couple of days.) Anyway, by that evening I had my herx

headache and was soon in agony and vomiting. The next 2 days I

ached alot more than normal. I had to take it easy as the headache

was back too. I just can't tolerate the excruciating

headaches/vomiting from detoxing etc. I just feel sometimes I

willnever get past this and then I get really really down. So

believe me, I can so feel for you and your son. I will keep you in

my prayers. And I would appreciate it if all of you ladies would

put me in yours to help me get past this block of progress from

these incessant terrible herxes.

love, kathy

-- In , " anita kessler "

<AnitaK001@m...> wrote:

> Rogene, I am pretty excited about this. It seems that most of us

who have had the live cell analysis have had the hypercoagulation

problem. As you may remember my son's was completely coagulated.

When Dr. Brodsky pricked his finger he had to squeeze for several

minutes just to get one drop of blood! And even now when he gets the

IV's it takes a while for the blood to back up into the tube. Also,

the post from Kathy about Hugh's Syndrome fits perfectly with this

theory. One thing that I read that is a little scary is that if

hypercoagulation is addressed using Warfarin and the patient happens

to have an issue with candida it can throw them into toxic shock!

> This protocol addresses heavy metal toxicity, biotoxins,

hypercoagulation, toxic buildup in the liver and gallbladder and

fibrin. All things that we all seem to be dealing with. And there

is a very simple and inexpensive test called the visual contrast

sensitivity test that will tell you if you have this. You can even

take it on the net at DR. Richie Shoemaker's web site for about $9.

> We are having to go slowly with my son as it seems he is extremely

toxic. He herx's badly if we try to go too fast. Last week he had

his first glutathione IV with 10cc and did fine. Then yesterday he

had 12cc and herxed. It is very scary. He gets very angry and even

violent. It breaks my heart because I know he can't control it. He

is also getting mild silver protein IV's to address the enormous

amount of bacteria in his blood and candida. I am supposed to do

coffee enemas at home but I haven't yet because I am afraid of the

herx. The heavy metal test should be back soon and I am anxious to

see what it shows. I had them add platinum to the test but I don't

know if it will be testing for the right kind of platinum. I'm kind

of sketchy on that.

> Anyway, as I said I have info for anyone who is interested in

pursuing this. There is a place called Body Bio who I think does

the testing for Kane, the lady who came up with the

protocol. She is recommended on Mercola's site. Body Bio maintains

a list of Drs. who have taken the course on this protocol. The

more I read about it the more I think it would address many of our

problems. They are using this protocol to address Chronic Fatigue,

Fibro, Lyme, MS, and many ofther chronic conditions.

http://www.lymediseaseaudio.com/ Here is a link that has an audio

of Dr. Shoemaker speaking about Lyme Disease. Scroll down to the

bottom left and click on where it mentions Dr. Shoemaker's name. It

is quite interesting. Even though he is talking about Lyme the info

also pertains to all neurotoxins. Let me know what you think.

Love, Anita

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Hi Everybody,,

I agree that this is more widespread among implant women. I found out I had

hypercoagulated blood and since have been taking aspirin, vitamin E and

natakkonaise (that japanese enzyme that eats the fibrin out of your blood and

tissue. Since starting this I too feel a lot better, My doctor didn't want to

put me on standard blood thinners because my fibrin level was in the normal

range but when I had a love blood analysis done it showed up. I still have some

pain but it is much better Ihaven't had to take any pain medication in a long

while). Other natural blood thinners are garlic and tumeric.. I hope after

continued detoxing and exercise my body will go back to normal. I went to sooo

many doctors and none of them knew anything about this, Let's all get well!!! I

feel like this was the main thing that was causing most of my symptoms.

Definately from silicone exposure.

Love to all

Judi

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Hi Rogene,

Nattokainase is an enzyme made fro the soybean and discovered in Japan to

dissolve the fibrin in your blood. This is what makes your blood thick. There

are many different brands and I have only found it on the Internet not in any

health food stores yet. There has been studies done on it in Japan and it is

suppose to work very well. Tumeric is a spice but you can buy that at any health

food store in the herb section. Tumeric is also good for inflammation. It is

probably all connected the diminished oxygen and inflammation. Anyway, I think

we are getting to the bottom of this disease and we have to do it on our own.

Love to all,

Judi

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If and I do say if one has chronic neurotoxic syndrome then thinning the blood alone will probably not be a permanent solution. As Dr. Brodsky told me "implant women"s blood seems to go right back once the blood thinner is discontinued. " From what I am getting from this protocol not only does the blood need to be thinned but the membrane needs to be strengthened. If anyone else wants to read the info and help me figure this out I will resend the links. Love, Anita Re: hypercoagulation Hi Rogene,Nattokainase is an enzyme made fro the soybean and discovered in Japan to dissolve the fibrin in your blood. This is what makes your blood thick. There are many different brands and I have only found it on the Internet not in any health food stores yet. There has been studies done on it in Japan and it is suppose to work very well. Tumeric is a spice but you can buy that at any health food store in the herb section. Tumeric is also good for inflammation. It is probably all connected the diminished oxygen and inflammation. Anyway, I think we are getting to the bottom of this disease and we have to do it on our own.Love to all,Judi

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Judi, What does natto look and taste like? Do you cook it? I am also curious why you mention inflammation. Both my son and I have chronic hives. Thank you Judi, Anita Re: hypercoagulation Hi Rogene,Nattokainase is an enzyme made fro the soybean and discovered in Japan to dissolve the fibrin in your blood. This is what makes your blood thick. There are many different brands and I have only found it on the Internet not in any health food stores yet. There has been studies done on it in Japan and it is suppose to work very well. Tumeric is a spice but you can buy that at any health food store in the herb section. Tumeric is also good for inflammation. It is probably all connected the diminished oxygen and inflammation. Anyway, I think we are getting to the bottom of this disease and we have to do it on our own.Love to all,Judi

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Anita

I have done a coffee enema a couple of times. One time I did it I

threw up bile several hours later. Another time I did a coffee

enema I felt better right away and then hours later hurt so bad

everywhere I could hardly get up and leave my Bible study group. I

went on to develop a massive headache. I was hypersenstive sore

everywhere in my shoulders, neck, and head. I am afraid to do

another one. I have heard from others that I must be very toxic.

It is just so frustrating as you well know. I feel like I have been

backing off of things for 3 years. I sometimes doubt that I can

ever become untoxic.

love,

kathy

-- In , " anita kessler "

<AnitaK001@m...> wrote:

> Kathy, All I can tell you is to keep doing what you are doing but

just back off on the amounts and work up gradually. That's what we

are having to do with my son. I give him the garlic in capsules

(fresh) and sometimes he gets a headache too. Have you ever done a

coffee enema? I think all this herxing shows just how toxic you

are. That;s what my son's doctor said. He said we just have to go

slower. Have you done much liver and lymph detox? These are two of

the main pathways the body uses to eliminate toxins. I will pray

for you. Love, Anita

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> Anita

> I am glad to see that you and your son are still hanging in

there!!

> Since your son is so much like me, I am just waiting to see how

he

> does with this protocol. If he can make it through it and

improve,

> then I certainly will give it a go!!

> I have been making the Brasco Broth that Jordin Rubin discusses

in

> his books on getting well. I was working my way up with the

> ingredients because they contain things I know I will react to.

For

> example, it calls for 4-6 cloves of garlic, at least 4 tbsp of

> coconut oil, lots of onion, etc. Well I did ok until I made the

> last soup. In that one I used 4 cloves of garlic and 2tbsp of

> coconut oil. The first time I ate it, within 15 minutes my hands

> started getting shooting pains and aching. The next day, I took

it

> again, along with one milk thistle (just started taking one a day

> for the last couple of days.) Anyway, by that evening I had my

herx

> headache and was soon in agony and vomiting. The next 2 days I

> ached alot more than normal. I had to take it easy as the

headache

> was back too. I just can't tolerate the excruciating

> headaches/vomiting from detoxing etc. I just feel sometimes I

> willnever get past this and then I get really really down. So

> believe me, I can so feel for you and your son. I will keep you

in

> my prayers. And I would appreciate it if all of you ladies would

> put me in yours to help me get past this block of progress from

> these incessant terrible herxes.

> love, kathy

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> -- In , " anita kessler "

> <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:

> > Rogene, I am pretty excited about this. It seems that most of

us

> who have had the live cell analysis have had the hypercoagulation

> problem. As you may remember my son's was completely

coagulated.

> When Dr. Brodsky pricked his finger he had to squeeze for several

> minutes just to get one drop of blood! And even now when he gets

the

> IV's it takes a while for the blood to back up into the tube.

Also,

> the post from Kathy about Hugh's Syndrome fits perfectly with

this

> theory. One thing that I read that is a little scary is that if

> hypercoagulation is addressed using Warfarin and the patient

happens

> to have an issue with candida it can throw them into toxic shock!

> > This protocol addresses heavy metal toxicity, biotoxins,

> hypercoagulation, toxic buildup in the liver and gallbladder and

> fibrin. All things that we all seem to be dealing with. And

there

> is a very simple and inexpensive test called the visual contrast

> sensitivity test that will tell you if you have this. You can

even

> take it on the net at DR. Richie Shoemaker's web site for about

$9.

> > We are having to go slowly with my son as it seems he is

extremely

> toxic. He herx's badly if we try to go too fast. Last week he

had

> his first glutathione IV with 10cc and did fine. Then yesterday

he

> had 12cc and herxed. It is very scary. He gets very angry and

even

> violent. It breaks my heart because I know he can't control it.

He

> is also getting mild silver protein IV's to address the enormous

> amount of bacteria in his blood and candida. I am supposed to do

> coffee enemas at home but I haven't yet because I am afraid of

the

> herx. The heavy metal test should be back soon and I am anxious

to

> see what it shows. I had them add platinum to the test but I

don't

> know if it will be testing for the right kind of platinum. I'm

kind

> of sketchy on that.

> > Anyway, as I said I have info for anyone who is interested in

> pursuing this. There is a place called Body Bio who I think does

> the testing for Kane, the lady who came up with the

> protocol. She is recommended on Mercola's site. Body Bio

maintains

> a list of Drs. who have taken the course on this protocol. The

> more I read about it the more I think it would address many of

our

> problems. They are using this protocol to address Chronic

Fatigue,

> Fibro, Lyme, MS, and many ofther chronic conditions.

> http://www.lymediseaseaudio.com/ Here is a link that has an

audio

> of Dr. Shoemaker speaking about Lyme Disease. Scroll down to the

> bottom left and click on where it mentions Dr. Shoemaker's name.

It

> is quite interesting. Even though he is talking about Lyme the

info

> also pertains to all neurotoxins. Let me know what you think.

> Love, Anita

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