Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb

[Guest guest]

Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it enough that

she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of any

doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, PLEASE!!!

Lynda

At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:

> <goingtolunch@...> wrote:

>I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds like you

>think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make whatever

>choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be inferring that

>there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't she have

>the same rights as you do?

>

>

>

>brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:

>

>I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could

>please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her

>webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, and

>yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding to in

>your post about her now feeling smething is " brewing " does that mean

>she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 year

>mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of implants at

>7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, but I

>am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see what

>she thinks about cohesives.

>Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will she be

>taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it seems to

>me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why wait

>and let things get worse.

>I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did not

>end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to that

>did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. I

>have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really good

>since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more

>problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am reading

>are about.

>thanks

>brenda

>

>

>

>

>

>

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AMEN

I agree completely and think it was shameful to try to shift unwanted attention to Dr. Kolb's decision. Since chose to "go public" asking for advice, she got it -- then when she did not like what she heard she pulls this?? Dr. Kolb has the right to make her own decision with her body without someone discussing her behind her back. She should have the right to also decide when she wants to discuss publicly the why's of her decision -- should also respect that. should also be fully truthful with all of you. She misrepresented the woman at explantation.com -- who only "chose" the cohesive gel implants as a temporary solution to her disfigurement from her BA pair of implants. She did not recommend them to anyone. I can direct you to her story if you need this info.

In fact, there is a thread at explantation.com that condemns these gummy bear implants.

Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it enough that she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of any doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, PLEASE!!!LyndaAt 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:> <goingtolunch@...> wrote:>I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds like you >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make whatever >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be inferring that >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't she have >the same rights as you do?>>>>brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:>>I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you

could>please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her>webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, and>yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding to in>your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that mean>she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 year>mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of implants at>7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, but I>am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see what>she thinks about cohesives.>Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will she be>taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it seems to>me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why wait>and let things get worse.>I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did not>end up sick

for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to that>did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. I>have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really good>since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more>problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am reading>are about.>thanks>brenda>>>>>>

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Let's not start any fingerpointing and ridiculing of any member, please...I deplore these kinds of posts which puts people into crosshairs....it only serves to create unease. Please, no more....I think the tone here needs to remain positive and concerned for the welfare of all involved... and Dr. Kolb included....

Thanks to all of you who make that important effort!

Patty <goingtolunch@...> wrote:

AMEN

I agree completely and think it was shameful to try to shift unwanted attention to Dr. Kolb's decision. Since chose to "go public" asking for advice, she got it -- then when she did not like what she heard she pulls this?? Dr. Kolb has the right to make her own decision with her body without someone discussing her behind her back. She should have the right to also decide when she wants to discuss publicly the why's of her decision -- should also respect that. should also be fully truthful with all of you. She misrepresented the woman at explantation.com -- who only "chose" the cohesive gel implants as a temporary solution to her disfigurement from her BA pair of implants. She did not recommend them to anyone. I can direct you to her story if you need this info.

In fact, there is a thread at explantation.com that condemns these gummy bear implants.__________________________________________________

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I went to explantation.com after mentioned it and I didn't

find any encouraging info for implanting, but thought I must have

overlooked it. I didn't go thru the whole site. Just did some speed

reading on some random articles. Annie

> >

> >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could

> >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her

> >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, and

> >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding to

in

> >your post about her now feeling smething is " brewing " does that

mean

> >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 year

> >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of implants

at

> >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, but

I

> >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see

what

> >she thinks about cohesives.

> >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will she

be

> >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it seems

to

> >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why

wait

> >and let things get worse.

> >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did not

> >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to

that

> >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. I

> >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really

good

> >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more

> >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am reading

> >are about.

> >thanks

> >brenda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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,

you wouldn’t understand why she implants or the full extent of it. You are simply too new to this whole topic of large lying manufactures (that as funny as it sounds-rule the world) and a silent doped up FDA that is supposed to be protecting us from harmful products, (Viox, phen phen, silicone implants, faulty valve salines) to fully understand why she is testing herself with implants in. I don’t meant sound rude, but it's a complicated issue. It took over a year for me to get it, and it was after she answered several questions. I would never do it, but she is risking her health so perhaps truths comes out. People will listen to a knowledgeable doctor, before they do one of us "Crazies"

I wasn’t "alluding" anything. We don’t do that here. I was filling in the girls that perhaps her "internal" study wont go much longer. She felt something was coming or not feeling her best. I never said she was sick.

Why would you call her? You are already planning on getting the implants, what will that prove anyway?

om: Lynda

Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb

Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it enough that she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of any doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, PLEASE!!!LyndaAt 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:> <goingtolunch@...> wrote:>I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds like you >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make whatever >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be inferring that >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't she have >the same rights as you do?>>>>brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:>>I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could>please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her>webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, and>yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding to in>your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that mean>she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 year>mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of implants at>7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, but I>am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see what>she thinks about cohesives.>Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will she be>taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it seems to>me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why wait>and let things get worse.>I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did not>end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to that>did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. I>have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really good>since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more>problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am reading>are about.>thanks>brenda>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

, forgive me but is there a new block on contacting Dr. Kolb

that I am unaware of? I only ask for clarification's sake. Her email

address drkolb@... is posted on her website

www.plastikos.com and it was either you or Patty I think that

directed me to contact her at her personally when I responded to her

post rearding Arsenic when I first returned to the group.

Having been away, I did not know any better,

and I dont mind posting to her here or there or anywhere for that

matter, I would like to know something else.

Out of respect for Dr. Kolb, since she is not here to speak for

herself at present, (and I would do the same for any of you inthe

same circumstance if you were not here to speak foryourself) I pose a

question and will direct it to her if so directed, has Dr. Kolb

requested that her name, her website, her research not be mentioned

on this group site? I want to know what the problem is with

calling her or looking at her web site, I don't see this kind of

response about other doctors, this is confusing to me.

Please post your response to me publically.

Has Dr. Kolb asked not to be contacted? Can somebody step to the

plate here and tell me are other doctors in similar situation as Dr.

Kolb, what has happened since I left and came back guys, help me out

here, please. I found posts on this sight between alot of you and Dr.

Kolb of good will and good information, No wonder we are all confused.

Can we just get on with it please? I cannot understand why anyone is

questioned abount contacting a doctor or at least looking at a

website, is that not what seeking information is all about, getting

informed so we can make our own decisions?

Many in the support group have talked about having and wanting

plastic surgery maybe not the same type but it is your right to do as

you wish with your body isnt it? How would you feel if you were

questioned about who you called about your choices?

I thought we were to offer the best resources for information

available and share experiences in a positive truthful light to be

supportive so an adult can make a decision based on facts. Control is

not an issue, I dont know other doctors mentioned here but I do not

show disrespect by asking why they would be contacted.

A board certified surgeon's serives are available based on what they

make available to research, period. Is this group moving into a

referrals service, you guys need to bring me to speed PLEASE

I hope everyone that goes to each doctor of choice has the outcome

they desire without dictatorship and harrassment. Talk about added

stress!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a saline recipient I ask very sincerely from my heart, are women

who make decisions some of you do not agree with going to be treated

differently? We might have much information to share as balance is

lacking around here lately. Come on guys, what gives?

> >

> >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could

> >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her

> >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing,

and

> >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding

to in

> >your post about her now feeling smething is " brewing " does that

mean

> >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7

year

> >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of

implants at

> >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case,

but I

> >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see

what

> >she thinks about cohesives.

> >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will

she be

> >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it

seems to

> >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why

wait

> >and let things get worse.

> >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did

not

> >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to

that

> >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast.

I

> >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really

good

> >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more

> >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am

reading

> >are about.

> >thanks

> >brenda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

All I can say about Dr. Kolb is my personal experience with her. She is kind

and compassiionate and is the ONLY doctor who has picked up the phone and talked

me when I called asking for help.

We need more doctors like her.

Tejedor

Board Certified Civil Trial Lawyer

ez, Manglardi, Diez-Arguelles and Tejedor P.A.

540 Semoran Blvd.

Orlando, Fl 32807

407-381-4123

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Well said and very similar to my experience.

It was my hope clarification would come from my request.

I hope we can move forward productively.

If anyone deserves recognition it is Dr. Kolb. I have found her

website a valuable source of information, quite worthy of reference

with access to information on implants from all prospectives.

Dr. Kolb is the top surgeon in the country and expert in her field.

It is true, she saved my life and I am forever grateful for her care

and I am a better person for knowing her.

> All I can say about Dr. Kolb is my personal experience with her.

She is kind and compassiionate and is the ONLY doctor who has picked

up the phone and talked me when I called asking for help.

> We need more doctors like her.

> Tejedor

> Board Certified Civil Trial Lawyer

> ez, Manglardi, Diez-Arguelles and Tejedor P.A.

> 540 Semoran Blvd.

> Orlando, Fl 32807

> 407-381-4123

[Guest guest]

Good report, K.Rhonda <angelrayhome@...> wrote:

Dear , Well said and very similar to my experience. It was my hope clarification would come from my request.I hope we can move forward productively.If anyone deserves recognition it is Dr. Kolb. I have found her website a valuable source of information, quite worthy of reference with access to information on implants from all prospectives.Dr. Kolb is the top surgeon in the country and expert in her field. It is true, she saved my life and I am forever grateful for her care and I am a better person for knowing her. > All I can say about Dr. Kolb is my personal experience with her. She is kind and compassiionate and is the ONLY doctor who has picked up the phone and talked me when I called asking for help. > We need more doctors

like her. > Tejedor > Board Certified Civil Trial Lawyer> ez, Manglardi, Diez-Arguelles and Tejedor P.A.> 540 Semoran Blvd. > Orlando, Fl 32807 > 407-381-4123

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, Maybe you werent here when it all went down with Dr Kolb. Although , I was a patient of Dr Kolbs, I think as you, and believe I could not have made a better choice- as she saved my life and continues to help me with insightful ways to heal. But I ask-please do not take offense to how Patty felt she had to handle the whole Dr Kolb situation. Dr Kolb had to email Patty of the agreements and rights according to groups, as a few of the members, more like one, IMO- was arguring and coming dangerously close, to slandering Dr Kolb's work. Claiming hers was not the best choice,bla bla. Wont go there. This member is no longer here. Anyway-I think this placed Patty in a bad situation and had to handle it the only was she felt was right to do so.

I admire both Patty and Dr Kolb and am greatly thankful for both of them. I realy am. I realy love them both. I believe Pattys heart is in the right place, and that God placed her here to be our group moderator an leader for a reason. You should be able to reach Dr Kolb at drkolb@.... I think her email changed. I know how you are feeling Rhonda, I am also faithful to trying to show all of Dr Kolb's qualities and good points,as I had a great experience, but with that we also have to respect how this group needs to be run for now. Patty has never stpeed me from telling my postive experience, and had never said one bad thing about Dr kolb .When girls come foreward to say they are going to explant to her , she always reassures them , they have made a good choice ."She is one of our best." I agree with everything you are saying, but I hope this helps. If you ever want, feel free to chat with me, by phone or email! You are always welcome!

>From: "Rhonda" <angelrayhome@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb >Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:17:39 -0000 > > > >, forgive me but is there a new block on contacting Dr. Kolb >that I am unaware of? I only ask for clarification's sake. Her email >address drkolb@... is posted on her website >www.plastikos.com and it was either you or Patty I think that >directed me to contact her at her personally when I responded to her >post rearding Arsenic when I first returned to the group. >Having been away, I did not know any better, >and I dont mind posting to her here or there or anywhere for that >matter, I would like to know something else. >Out of respect for Dr. Kolb, since she is not here to speak for >herself at present, (and I would do the same for any of you inthe >same circumstance if you were not here to speak foryourself) I pose a >question and will direct it to her if so directed, has Dr. Kolb >requested that her name, her website, her research not be mentioned >on this group site? I want to know what the problem is with >calling her or looking at her web site, I don't see this kind of >response about other doctors, this is confusing to me. > >Please post your response to me publically. > >Has Dr. Kolb asked not to be contacted? Can somebody step to the >plate here and tell me are other doctors in similar situation as Dr. >Kolb, what has happened since I left and came back guys, help me out >here, please. I found posts on this sight between alot of you and Dr. >Kolb of good will and good information, No wonder we are all confused. > >Can we just get on with it please? I cannot understand why anyone is >questioned abount contacting a doctor or at least looking at a >website, is that not what seeking information is all about, getting >informed so we can make our own decisions? >Many in the support group have talked about having and wanting >plastic surgery maybe not the same type but it is your right to do as >you wish with your body isnt it? How would you feel if you were >questioned about who you called about your choices? > >I thought we were to offer the best resources for information >available and share experiences in a positive truthful light to be >supportive so an adult can make a decision based on facts. Control is >not an issue, I dont know other doctors mentioned here but I do not >show disrespect by asking why they would be contacted. >A board certified surgeon's serives are available based on what they >make available to research, period. Is this group moving into a >referrals service, you guys need to bring me to speed PLEASE >I hope everyone that goes to each doctor of choice has the outcome >they desire without dictatorship and harrassment. Talk about added >stress!!!!!!!!!!!! > >As a saline recipient I ask very sincerely from my heart, are women >who make decisions some of you do not agree with going to be treated >differently? We might have much information to share as balance is >lacking around here lately. Come on guys, what gives? > > > > > > > >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could > > >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her > > >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, >and > > >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding >to in > > >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that >mean > > >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 >year > > >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of >implants at > > >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, >but I > > >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see >what > > >she thinks about cohesives. > > >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will >she be > > >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it >seems to > > >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why >wait > > >and let things get worse. > > >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did >not > > >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to >that > > >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. >I > > >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really >good > > >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more > > >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am >reading > > >are about. > > >thanks > > >brenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >