Re: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb/To

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, if you choose to go ahead with this, I think the ONLY dr. to follow you should be Dr. Kolb. Take Care, Of course I don't think any implants are safe. And, don't get them too big, stay small, they seem to be safer, watch for the little changes, such as 5 to 10 lbs in weight, sinus problems, etc. And plan on getting them out within 5 years TOPS, ok, Good luck, K. And don't go anywhere else except KOLB, that would be suicide. No one else will help you, they won't, face it, they've lied to us they'll lie to you. You're just a little girl and PS think they can take advantage of you. REally get a lift, there are ways they can use your own skin from your but and move it up to your breast area, have you checked into that? Be Careful, K.brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:

Hi I had resinged from this group but I chosen to come back to respond to yur post. I want to say that I am a bit hurt(maybe just sensitive) that you said and i will quote "Why would you call her? You are already planning on getting the implants, what will that prove anyway?" I guess I wanted to talk with her because she seems like a perfect person to discuss implants and the risks or problems with them right? Wasn't she your dr? Why wouldn't you want me to talk with her? I thank you Patty for your post and the others I think that were nice to me, but i felt hurt by her posts and her private emails were mean to me. I am just a young woman with deformed breasts looking for help. I thought the cohesives might be an answer and I am still undecided now and that they had less risks not NONE. But

I obviously am not 100% sure of what I am doing. I am still so mixed up and the emails have really mixed me up because of and s attitudes. All i asked for is help.But I will leave now and go where I can get some real support.Thanks again to those who were nice and cared.In , "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@m...> wrote:> , > you wouldn't understand why she implants or the full extent of it. You are simply too new to this whole topic of large lying manufactures (that as funny as it sounds-rule the world) and a silent doped up FDA that is supposed to be protecting us from harmful products, (Viox, phen phen, silicone implants, faulty valve salines) to fully understand why she is testing herself with implants in. I don't meant sound rude, but it's a complicated issue. It took over a year for me to get it, and it was after she answered

several questions. I would never do it, but she is risking her health so perhaps truths comes out. People will listen to a knowledgeable doctor, before they do one of us "Crazies" > I wasn't "alluding" anything. We don't do that here. I was filling in the girls that perhaps her "internal" study wont go much longer. She felt something was coming or not feeling her best. I never said she was sick.> Why would you call her? You are already planning on getting the implants, what will that prove anyway? > om: Lynda<mailto:coss@p...> > <mailto: > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:43 PM> Subject: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb> > > > Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it enough that > she

removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of any > doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, PLEASE!!!> > Lynda> > > > > > At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:> > <goingtolunch@y...<mailto:goingtolunch@y...>> wrote:> >I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds like you > >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make whatever > >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be inferring that > >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't she have > >the same rights as you do?> >> >> >> >brenda_franz

<brenda_franz@y...<mailto:brenda_franz@y...>> wrote:> >> >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could> >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her> >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, and> >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding to in> >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that mean> >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 year> >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of implants at> >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, but I> >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see what> >she thinks about

cohesives.> >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will she be> >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it seems to> >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why wait> >and let things get worse.> >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did not> >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to that> >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. I> >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really good> >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more> >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am reading> >are about.>

>thanks> >brenda> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Is telling the truth that hard for you? Until you do, leave my name out of anything else you post PLEASE!brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote:

Hi I had resinged from this group but I chosen to come back to respond to yur post. I want to say that I am a bit hurt(maybe just sensitive) that you said and i will quote "Why would you call her? You are already planning on getting the implants, what will that prove anyway?" I guess I wanted to talk with her because she seems like a perfect person to discuss implants and the risks or problems with them right? Wasn't she your dr? Why wouldn't you want me to talk with her? I thank you Patty for your post and the others I think that were nice to me, but i felt hurt by her posts and her private emails were mean to me. I am just a young woman with deformed breasts looking for help. I thought the cohesives might be an answer and I am still undecided now and that they had less risks not NONE. But

I obviously am not 100% sure of what I am doing. I am still so mixed up and the emails have really mixed me up because of and s attitudes. All i asked for is help.But I will leave now and go where I can get some real support.Thanks again to those who were nice and cared.In , "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@m...> wrote:> , > you wouldn't understand why she implants or the full extent of it. You are simply too new to this whole topic of large lying manufactures (that as funny as it sounds-rule the world) and a silent doped up FDA that is supposed to be protecting us from harmful products, (Viox, phen phen, silicone implants, faulty valve salines) to fully understand why she is testing herself with implants in. I don't meant sound rude, but it's a complicated issue. It took over a year for me to get it, and it was after she answered

several questions. I would never do it, but she is risking her health so perhaps truths comes out. People will listen to a knowledgeable doctor, before they do one of us "Crazies" > I wasn't "alluding" anything. We don't do that here. I was filling in the girls that perhaps her "internal" study wont go much longer. She felt something was coming or not feeling her best. I never said she was sick.> Why would you call her? You are already planning on getting the implants, what will that prove anyway? > om: Lynda<mailto:coss@p...> > <mailto: > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:43 PM> Subject: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb> > > > Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it enough that > she

removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of any > doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, PLEASE!!!> > Lynda> > > > > > At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:> > <goingtolunch@y...<mailto:goingtolunch@y...>> wrote:> >I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds like you > >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make whatever > >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be inferring that > >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't she have > >the same rights as you do?> >> >> >> >brenda_franz

<brenda_franz@y...<mailto:brenda_franz@y...>> wrote:> >> >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could> >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her> >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, and> >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding to in> >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that mean> >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 year> >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of implants at> >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, but I> >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see what> >she thinks about

cohesives.> >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will she be> >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it seems to> >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why wait> >and let things get worse.> >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did not> >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to that> >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. I> >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really good> >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more> >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am reading> >are about.>

>thanks> >brenda> >> >> >> >> >> >

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, I think you should call Dr. Feng and Dr. Kolb and ask away. They both come highly recommended and do great work and if anyone would be able to provide you with great results if you choose an atlernative to implants it would most likely be one of them. Good luck with whatever your decision . Anita Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb> > > > > > > > Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it > enough that > > she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of > any > > doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, > PLEASE!!!> > > > Lynda> > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:> > > <goingtolunch@y...<mailto:goingtolunch@y...>> wrote:> > >I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds > like you > > >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make > whatever > > >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be > inferring that > > >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't > she have > > >the same rights as you do?> > >> > >> > >> > >brenda_franz <brenda_franz@y...<mailto:brenda_franz@y...>> wrote:> > >> > >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could> > >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her> > >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, > and> > >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding > to in> > >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that > mean> > >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 > year> > >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of > implants at> > >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, > but I> > >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see > what> > >she thinks about cohesives> > >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will > she be> > >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it > seems to> > >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why > wait> > >and let things get worse.> > >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did > not> > >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to > that> > >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. > I> > >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really > good> > >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more> > >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am > reading> > >are about.> > >thanks> > >brenda> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

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', on this site we agree to disagree. Since my post suggesting you go to Dr. Kolb others have spoke highly of her. I apologize for calling you a little girl, I really meant it in an endearing way, as I have two girls ages 23 and 21. Yes, you are a grown women and compared to what I expect from a 20 year old these days if you are like my two girls in quit a competent person. However, in the sceme of things you are still very young.

We'd hate to see you may a mistake of a life time. And though we may have been confused, but we did not have the informaiton you have regarding implants. We were told they were safe and would last a life time. You on the other hand are well aware of the risks. If you pursue implants, and it seems you are determined to do so, only let Kolb put them in. God Bless, Sincerely, K.anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

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I think you should call Dr. Feng and Dr. Kolb and ask away. They both come highly recommended and do great work and if anyone would be able to provide you with great results if you choose an atlernative to implants it would most likely be one of them. Good luck with whatever your decision . Anita

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Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it > enough that > > she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of > any > > doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, > PLEASE!!!> > > > Lynda> > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:> > > <goingtolunch@y...<mailto:goingtolunch@y...>> wrote:> > >I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds > like you > > >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make > whatever > > >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be > inferring that > > >there must be something

wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't > she have > > >the same rights as you do?> > >> > >> > >> > >brenda_franz <brenda_franz@y...<mailto:brenda_franz@y...>> wrote:> > >> > >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could> > >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her> > >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, > and> > >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding > to in> > >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that > mean> > >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 > year> >

>mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of > implants at> > >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, > but I> > >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see > what> > >she thinks about cohesives> > >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will > she be> > >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it > seems to> > >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why > wait> > >and let things get worse.> > >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did > not> > >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to > that> > >did get ill

seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. > I> > >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really > good> > >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more> > >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am > reading> > >are about.> > >thanks> > >brenda> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >

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, i am sorry if you took my posts wrong. I hope this gets posted to the board.So everyone here sees my apology to you. The whole thing with Dr Kolb makes some, myself included often defensive, and in this situation was perhaps not needed. You simply did not know or mean to intend anything.

I did not mean to hurt you, if you knew me, you would believe me. I realy have a heart of gold and mean well. I just know you seem you like you are going to get them anyway. And wondered what difference it would make to check with another ps/ Thats all. I know you are in tough situation with your deformed breasts ,but there are other options. A breast lift may do wonders! Besides, women survived many years with inperfect breasts before there were implants, and lived wonderful lives. Do you think they may look so terrible because you are so focused on them and they are realy not that bad? And there are options available? You know, just because there are options, does not mean they are good ones. I know at 20, I thought my breasts were was too small,and now I look back ,and think they were perfect and cute! Especially without the scars!

Good luck, brenda, I mean it. I hope and wish there will be a safer alternative implant, and that your cohesive will be the ones, and will work out for you! Just understand I do not believe it, Im just too skeptical. Love, >From: michelle king <michellerking1@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb/To >Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:44:05 -0800 (PST) > >, if you choose to go ahead with this, I think the ONLY dr. to follow you should be Dr. Kolb. Take Care, Of course I don't think any implants are safe. And, don't get them too big, stay small, they seem to be safer, watch for the little changes, such as 5 to 10 lbs in weight, sinus problems, etc. And plan on getting them out within 5 years TOPS, ok, Good luck, K. And don't go anywhere else except KOLB, that would be suicide. No one else will help you, they won't, face it, they've lied to us they'll lie to you. You're just a little girl and PS think they can take advantage of you. REally get a lift, there are ways they can use your own skin from your but and move it up to your breast area, have you checked into that? Be Careful, K. > >brenda_franz <brenda_franz@...> wrote: >Hi >I had resinged from this group but I chosen to come back to respond >to yur post. I want to say that I am a bit hurt(maybe just sensitive) >that you said and i will quote "Why would you call her? You are >already planning on getting the implants, what will that prove >anyway?" >I guess I wanted to talk with her because she seems like a perfect >person to discuss implants and the risks or problems with them right? >Wasn't she your dr? Why wouldn't you want me to talk with her? >I thank you Patty for your post and the others I think that were >nice to me, but i felt hurt by her posts and her private >emails were mean to me. I am just a young woman with deformed breasts >looking for help. I thought the cohesives might be an answer and I >am still undecided now and that they had less risks not NONE. But I >obviously am not 100% sure of what I am doing. I am still so mixed up >and the emails have really mixed me up because of and s >attitudes. All i asked for is help. >But I will leave now and go where I can get some real support. >Thanks again to those who were nice and cared. > > > > > > > >In , "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@m...> >wrote: > > , > > you wouldn't understand why she implants or the full extent of it. >You are simply too new to this whole topic of large lying >manufactures (that as funny as it sounds-rule the world) and a silent >doped up FDA that is supposed to be protecting us from harmful >products, (Viox, phen phen, silicone implants, faulty valve salines) >to fully understand why she is testing herself with implants in. I >don't meant sound rude, but it's a complicated issue. It took over a >year for me to get it, and it was after she answered several >questions. I would never do it, but she is risking her health so >perhaps truths comes out. People will listen to a knowledgeable >doctor, before they do one of us "Crazies" > > I wasn't "alluding" anything. We don't do that here. I was filling >in the girls that perhaps her "internal" study wont go much longer. >She felt something was coming or not feeling her best. I never said >she was sick. > > Why would you call her? You are already planning on getting the >implants, what will that prove anyway? > > om: Lynda<mailto:coss@p...> > > > <mailto: > > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:43 PM > > Subject: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb > > > > > > > > Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it >enough that > > she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask of >any > > doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, >PLEASE!!! > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote: > > > <goingtolunch@y...<mailto:goingtolunch@y...>> wrote: > > >I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure sounds >like you > > >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make >whatever > > >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be >inferring that > > >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- shouldn't >she have > > >the same rights as you do? > > > > > > > > > > > >brenda_franz <brenda_franz@y...<mailto:brenda_franz@y...>> wrote: > > > > > >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could > > >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her > > >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, >and > > >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were alluding >to in > > >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does that >mean > > >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 >year > > >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of >implants at > > >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, >but I > > >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and see >what > > >she thinks about cohesives. > > >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will >she be > > >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it >seems to > > >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , why >wait > > >and let things get worse. > > >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did >not > > >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken to >that > > >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them fast. >I > > >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing really >good > > >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more > > >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am >reading > > >are about. > > >thanks > > >brenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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, I never said not to call Dr Kolb.Please reread my post. There isnt anything "fishy" going on here at al-l to hmm about. She is one of our best plastic surgeons recommended here. Esp for explant. All I said was why bother calling, when you are so intent on getting them. Thats all.

Call her.

>From: michelle king <michellerking1@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb/To >Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 00:16:53 -0800 (PST) > >', on this site we agree to disagree. Since my post suggesting you go to Dr. Kolb others have spoke highly of her. I apologize for calling you a little girl, I really meant it in an endearing way, as I have two girls ages 23 and 21. Yes, you are a grown women and compared to what I expect from a 20 year old these days if you are like my two girls in quit a competent person. However, in the sceme of things you are still very young. >We'd hate to see you may a mistake of a life time. And though we may have been confused, but we did not have the informaiton you have regarding implants. We were told they were safe and would last a life time. You on the other hand are well aware of the risks. If you pursue implants, and it seems you are determined to do so, only let Kolb put them in. God Bless, Sincerely, K. > >anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote: >, >I think you should call Dr. Feng and Dr. Kolb and ask away. They both come highly recommended and do great work and if anyone would be able to provide you with great results if you choose an atlernative to implants it would most likely be one of them. Good luck with whatever your decision . Anita > > Re: Saline implants & Dr. Kolb > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, let us not stir up a problem over Dr. Kolb. Isn't it > > enough that > > > she removes our implants and does it right? That is all I ask >of > > any > > > doctor. She is on our side. Let her problems be her problems, > > PLEASE!!! > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:40 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote: > > > > <goingtolunch@y...<mailto:goingtolunch@y...>> >wrote: > > > >I really do not like the tone of this -- , it sure >sounds > > like you > > > >think that while it is fine for you to have the right to make > > whatever > > > >choice you want regarding your implants, you seem to be > > inferring that > > > >there must be something wrong with Dr Kolb's choice -- >shouldn't > > she have > > > >the same rights as you do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >brenda_franz <brenda_franz@y...<mailto:brenda_franz@y...>> >wrote: > > > > > > > >I did some research on this Dr Kolb and am curious if you could > > > >please tell me what is going on with her. From the looks of her > > > >webpage she apparently believes in this implant illness thing, > > and > > > >yet she still also has implants. Is this what you were >alluding > > to in > > > >your post about her now feeling smething is "brewing" does >that > > mean > > > >she feels she is getting ill? Is this because she is at the 7 > > year > > > >mark? I knew there was a risk of rupture in these type of > > implants at > > > >7 years or longer, with cohesives that really is not the case, > > but I > > > >am interested in this Dr. Maybe i will write or call her and >see > > what > > > >she thinks about cohesives > > > >Can you tell me more about what is going on with her now? Will > > she be > > > >taking her implants out now that she is having probelms? it > > seems to > > > >me that if I had problems I would just get them taken out , >why > > wait > > > >and let things get worse. > > > >I would remove them at the firt sign of problems so that I did > > not > > > >end up sick for the rest of my life. The women I have spoken >to > > that > > > >did get ill seemed to get better fast if they removed them >fast. > > I > > > >have spoken to a few women on other sites that are doing >really > > good > > > >since removal of saline implants. It does seem saline are more > > > >problematic. Or at least that is what all the stories I am > > reading > > > >are about. > > > >thanks > > > >brenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >