Re: /I pose a question............

[Guest guest]

Good point Annie, also people don't admire sick people even if they have good hearts. No one wants to hear about health problems, that's why we have each other. Hugs, And , you are very much welcome here. We really want to help you as Kathy said, if after you get implants if you do, of course we hope you won't but we will still love you.ann53ie <ann53ie@...> wrote:

Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about them that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit for life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs are. It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior. I'm pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh, that men and our society in general could be redirected towards what really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from the inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from the inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may shrivel, but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the dirt over us! Love,

Annie

[Guest guest]

,

Can you please explain what you mean here?

" Good point Annie, also people don't admire sick people even if they

have good hearts. "

> Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about

them

> that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit for

> life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs are.

> It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior. I'm

> pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,

that

> men and our society in general could be redirected towards what

> really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with

> improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from

the

> inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not

> bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from the

> inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may

shrivel,

> but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the dirt

> over us! Love, Annie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, people get very tired of sick people, they may have sympathy or

empathy, but they start to avoid them and they often pity them. They do

not admire them.

Lynda

At 08:07 AM 11/2/2004, you wrote:

>,

>Can you please explain what you mean here?

>

> " Good point Annie, also people don't admire sick people even if they

>have good hearts. "

>

>

>

> > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about

>them

> > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit for

> > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs are.

> > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior. I'm

> > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,

>that

> > men and our society in general could be redirected towards what

> > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with

> > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from

>the

> > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not

> > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from the

> > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may

>shrivel,

> > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the dirt

> > over us! Love, Annie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Guess that blows ideals set by many to support those that are sick

right out of the water, say... Reeves for instance-just

as an example, don't jump on me for picking the first one that comes

to mind, there are so many -

Perhaps you guys can help me out here, is this our inner selves

speaking? Thanks.

> > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about

> >them

> > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit

for

> > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs

are.

> > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior.

I'm

> > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,

> >that

> > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards what

> > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with

> > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from

> >the

> > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not

> > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from

the

> > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may

> >shrivel,

> > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the

dirt

> > > over us! Love, Annie

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ah, but Reeves fought back and tried hard not to be a

victim. That was the difference.

Many sick people are just sick, and not out there fighting to get well. I

knew people who refused to try to get better because it might affect any

settlement they might get on their breast implants. Now that is sick.

Lynda

At 08:23 AM 11/2/2004, you wrote:

>Guess that blows ideals set by many to support those that are sick

>right out of the water, say... Reeves for instance-just

>as an example, don't jump on me for picking the first one that comes

>to mind, there are so many -

>Perhaps you guys can help me out here, is this our inner selves

>speaking? Thanks.

>

> > > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about

> > >them

> > > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit

>for

> > > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs

>are.

> > > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior.

>I'm

> > > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,

> > >that

> > > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards what

> > > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with

> > > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from

> > >the

> > > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not

> > > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from

>the

> > > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may

> > >shrivel,

> > > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the

>dirt

> > > > over us! Love, Annie

> > > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Lynda,

Your point is well made and I thank you...the key is not the sick but

the sick with victim mentality?

> > >

> > >

> > > >,

> > > >Can you please explain what you mean here?

> > > >

> > > > " Good point Annie, also people don't admire sick people even if

> >they

> > > >have good hearts. "

[Guest guest]

Ah, yes, and there are many of those.

Lynda

At 08:53 AM 11/2/2004, you wrote:

>Dearest Lynda,

>Your point is well made and I thank you...the key is not the sick but

>the sick with victim mentality?

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >,

> > > > >Can you please explain what you mean here?

> > > > >

> > > > > " Good point Annie, also people don't admire sick people even if

> > >they

> > > > >have good hearts. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I read an article about dealing with long term illness. It appears to be human nature to be sympathic initially when someone is ill. . . But after a while, people often get worn down. It's our nature to care . . . but we want to help and to fix. We want to see people get well and back in the swing of things. Spending a lot of time with someone who doesn't feel up to doing anything, even carrying on a conversation, isn't all that exciting!

It's when an illness goes on and on, and it appears we can't help (sometimes it appears that they refuse to help themselves), that we gradually drift away. It's happened to soooooooo many implanted women as they get sick and can't find the answers. People offer suggestions . . . but unless they understand the connection to implants, their suggestions are often fruitless. . . It takes really understanding family and friends to hang in there with someone whose ill for years on end, especially when the illness is unexplainable.

I don't think it's a matter of not caring . . . But one of wearing down . . . Human nature. . . The exceptional people overcome this feeling and hang in for the long run, regardless!

Hugs,

RogeneRhonda <angelrayhome@...> wrote:

Guess that blows ideals set by many to support those that are sick right out of the water, say... Reeves for instance-just as an example, don't jump on me for picking the first one that comes to mind, there are so many -Perhaps you guys can help me out here, is this our inner selves speaking? Thanks.> > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about> >them> > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit for> > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs

are.> > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior. I'm> > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,> >that> > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards what> > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with> > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from> >the> > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not> > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from the> > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may> >shrivel,> > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the dirt> > > over us! Love, Annie> > >

[Guest guest]

Rogene, you are a very smart lady. We all love you. Reeves was a wonderful inspiration for us all; however, he had so much support and we have none, except from the wonderful women in these groups. We have all been abandoned by our society. Breast implants must remain a silent issue or we are accused of being obsessed with this HOT TOPIC....I will remain to be obsessed.

Much love....Lea

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Re: Re: /I pose a question............

Rhonda,

I read an article about dealing with long term illness. It appears to be human nature to be sympathic initially when someone is ill. . . But after a while, people often get worn down. It's our nature to care . . . but we want to help and to fix. We want to see people get well and back in the swing of things. Spending a lot of time with someone who doesn't feel up to doing anything, even carrying on a conversation, isn't all that exciting!

It's when an illness goes on and on, and it appears we can't help (sometimes it appears that they refuse to help themselves), that we gradually drift away. It's happened to soooooooo many implanted women as they get sick and can't find the answers. People offer suggestions . . . but unless they understand the connection to implants, their suggestions are often fruitless. . . It takes really understanding family and friends to hang in there with someone whose ill for years on end, especially when the illness is unexplainable.

I don't think it's a matter of not caring . . . But one of wearing down . . . Human nature. . . The exceptional people overcome this feeling and hang in for the long run, regardless!

Hugs,

RogeneRhonda <angelrayhome@...> wrote:

Guess that blows ideals set by many to support those that are sick right out of the water, say... Reeves for instance-just as an example, don't jump on me for picking the first one that comes to mind, there are so many -Perhaps you guys can help me out here, is this our inner selves speaking? Thanks.> > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about> >them> > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit for> > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs are.> > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior. I'm> > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,> >that> > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards what> > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with> > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from> >the> > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not> > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from the> > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may> >shrivel,> > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the dirt> > > over us! Love, Annie> > >

[Guest guest]

We had a family member with a life-threatening chronic illness for a number of years (more than I would ever have wanted). From our experience it seems that although many want to help (especially at first), the frustration of watching someone not get all better (remember when you believed that most of the time people do get fully well from most things) and even get worse, even when seeing some of the best medical people/experts try and fail -- becomes too heavy a burden for some (some of whom probably mean to remain helpful but just do not know what to do or say). For some, a complicated medical problem is too confusing and scary. For others who are less generous, it seems that they tire of feeling sorry for the sick person -- as if it becomes an inconvenience to be forced to think of this other person before their own interests anymore. It is just not fun to be with the chronically sick -- they have needs that must be met daily. Remember when

cancer victims used to complain about how people would (upon hearing their diagnosis) all but run from them as if they were contagious?

Sometimes I wish I could have told people that just a hug or a call asking how things are going is a great spirit lifter (and so simple to do) -- and of course those who were willing to push up their sleeves and help were the best of all (every little bit helps when you have something so serious to deal with -- there is no such thing as an offer/gesture that is too small to matter).

Regards,

Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

Rhonda,

I read an article about dealing with long term illness. It appears to be human nature to be sympathic initially when someone is ill. . . But after a while, people often get worn down. It's our nature to care . . . but we want to help and to fix. We want to see people get well and back in the swing of things. Spending a lot of time with someone who doesn't feel up to doing anything, even carrying on a conversation, isn't all that exciting!

It's when an illness goes on and on, and it appears we can't help (sometimes it appears that they refuse to help themselves), that we gradually drift away. It's happened to soooooooo many implanted women as they get sick and can't find the answers. People offer suggestions . . . but unless they understand the connection to implants, their suggestions are often fruitless. . . It takes really understanding family and friends to hang in there with someone whose ill for years on end, especially when the illness is unexplainable.

I don't think it's a matter of not caring . . . But one of wearing down . . . Human nature. . . The exceptional people overcome this feeling and hang in for the long run, regardless!

Hugs,

RogeneRhonda <angelrayhome@...> wrote:

Guess that blows ideals set by many to support those that are sick right out of the water, say... Reeves for instance-just as an example, don't jump on me for picking the first one that comes to mind, there are so many -Perhaps you guys can help me out here, is this our inner selves speaking? Thanks.> > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it about> >them> > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain, spirit for> > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their boobs

are.> > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their exterior. I'm> > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours. Oh,> >that> > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards what> > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with> > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful from> >the> > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place, not> > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come from the> > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may> >shrivel,> > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw the dirt> > > over us! Love, Annie> > >

[Guest guest]

So true! To be there for someone in the long run shows alot of

heart and perserverance. The people who don't run from adverse

situations and can be counted on no matter what are few in supply

and high in demand!

hugs, kathy

> > > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it

about

> > >them

> > > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain,

spirit

> for

> > > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their

boobs

> are.

> > > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their

exterior.

> I'm

> > > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just yours.

Oh,

> > >that

> > > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards

what

> > > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled with

> > > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful

from

> > >the

> > > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place,

not

> > > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come

from

> the

> > > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may

> > >shrivel,

> > > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw

the

> dirt

> > > > over us! Love, Annie

> > > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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I am so glad that your daughters are supportive. I want you to know

that I am proud of you. You have come through so much and have

worked so hard and are definitely not a malingerer! I have to tell

you that I admire your tenacity and spirit. Keep it up girl!

Love, kathy

-- In , michelle king

<michellerking1@y...> wrote:

> , I didn't respond right away because everyone seemed to

understand what I was saying without me being clearer. I personally

get very little support from my family for my illness. Most just

don't want to hear about it at all and only want to hear the good

and when I'm returning to work.

>

> I don't understand people like this. who can't take the good with

the bad. I know I'd be the kind of person to stick with someone

through the thick and thin.

>

> I have to act well and have a lot of pressure not to discuss my

health problems. People are just tired of hearing about it. Though

those who are closest to me, at least have a more sympathetic way,

more reasonable expectations and some tolerance for discussing

health issues as long as I keep things mild (not too heavy) and

never, ever say a diagnosis unless its medically documented. My

real father is probably my worst supporter and his wife. My two

girls are probably my greatest supporters. I have no husband. My

one daughter and her boyfriend are more supportive than my other

daughter but both daughters truely show the greatest endurance of

anyone and reasonable goals for me. Basically that means my future

prognosis for working PT in a low stress job. They would be happy

if I could do that rather than expect me to persue my area of

speciality that I've been trained for, which is special education.

I cannot jump into being a special education teacher, the stress

level is not

> practical. Working in an office 1 day a week sounds a lot more

feasible though I wish I could go full steam. I want to be

realistic. I am hopeful to work again, but I'm not sure I'm even

stabilized yet. I still have fears about my health, and am really

waiting to get MRI of breast and lymph to see if most of silicone is

out. So far ins. co. has denied my request but I fought it. I need

a higher frequency magnet that will eventually come to Pgh, Jan.

2005 and I may have to wait for that.

>

> I think we need to do our part and not malinger. We need to be

proactive with our health. When people see us trying hard they are

more willing to support us. And when they see improvements and we

can tell them of improvements that makes talking about conditions

more bearable. Hugs, K.

>

> mikat828 <mikat828@y...> wrote:

>

>

>

> So true! To be there for someone in the long run shows alot of

> heart and perserverance. The people who don't run from adverse

> situations and can be counted on no matter what are few in supply

> and high in demand!

> hugs, kathy

>

>

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>

> > > > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it

> about

> > > >them

> > > > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain,

> spirit

> > for

> > > > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their

> boobs

> > are.

> > > > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their

> exterior.

> > I'm

> > > > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just

yours.

> Oh,

> > > >that

> > > > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards

> what

> > > > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled

with

> > > > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more

beautiful

> from

> > > >the

> > > > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better

place,

> not

> > > > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come

> from

> > the

> > > > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs

may

> > > >shrivel,

> > > > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw

> the

> > dirt

> > > > > over us! Love, Annie

> > > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear , What a nice post, you know I was teasing you when I

replied to your other post because of the other post we laughed

about,oh well, that was about clear as mud wasn't it? LOL anyway I

hope it did not come off in a negative way as it was not meant as

such.

I do not have a husband or boyfriend by choice right now, and not

having children or family around makes for a different world. I am in

truly happy for anyone that has a life with support at home.

You are a sweety through and through- remember what we discussed

about being sisterly? I appreciate that and hope you will reciprocate

anytime you feel up to it, - take care

> > > > > Think of the 10 women you admire the most. Now, what is it

> about

> > > >them

> > > > > that you admire? It's likely their heart, soul, brain,

> spirit

> > for

> > > > > life, etc. You may not even have noticed what size their

> boobs

> > are.

> > > > > It is their INNER self that wins you over, not their

> exterior.

> > I'm

> > > > > pointing this out as fodder for my own mind, not just

yours.

> Oh,

> > > >that

> > > > > men and our society in general could be redirected towards

> what

> > > > > really matters! I pray that we all become more entangled

with

> > > > > improving our inner selves, making ourselves more beautiful

> from

> > > >the

> > > > > inside out.........THAT will make the world a better place,

> not

> > > > > bigger boobs. Want to leave a lasting legacy? It will come

> from

> > the

> > > > > inside, not the outside. Big boobs will sag, small boobs may

> > > >shrivel,

> > > > > but hearts can stay as big as all outdoors til they throw

> the

> > dirt

> > > > > over us! Love, Annie

> > > > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >