Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Anita, I just took the test at https://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/. My total VCS Score is 78, which is negative, and the overall indicator score is 33. Would you mind sharing your results or what would indicate a positive? I think some of my problems may still lie with the tin toxicity. What a great test! Also, are you taking digestive enzymes and if so, can you recommend a gentle brand? The last batch I tried really hurt my stomach. Thanks! Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Beth, that is great that you are negative. My son just has done the preliminary so far with positive results. I took the test and had a 70 which also was positive. One other thing when you have CNS taking fish oil is not a good idea because you would also be low on Omega 6 and the fish oil only has Omega 3. That is probably why you get such good results with the fish oil. Do you know if you have hypercoagulation of your blood? Probably not. From what I have read all chronically ill people have hypercoagulation. In the PK protocol the IV lipids balance the lipids and in doing so do not let the blood cells stick together. For temporary relief of hypercoagulation digestive enzymes taken away from food, natto or lumbrokinase will unstick the cells. I have an exzyme supp. from twinlabs called super enzyme caps that doesn't seem to bother us. Love, Anita ANITA: took the test! Anita,I just took the test at https://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/. My total VCS Score is 78, which is negative, and the overall indicator score is 33. Would you mind sharing your results or what would indicate a positive? I think some of my problems may still lie with the tin toxicity. What a great test! Also, are you taking digestive enzymes and if so, can you recommend a gentle brand? The last batch I tried really hurt my stomach.Thanks!Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Anita I did that test and I came out negative. I was really surprised because it sure sounded like my problem. Did you ever think about trying the cholestyramine? (sp?) It supposedly binds the recirculating toxins. kathy > Beth, that is great that you are negative. My son just has done the preliminary so far with positive results. I took the test and had a 70 which also was positive. One other thing when you have CNS taking fish oil is not a good idea because you would also be low on Omega 6 and the fish oil only has Omega 3. That is probably why you get such good results with the fish oil. Do you know if you have hypercoagulation of your blood? Probably not. From what I have read all chronically ill people have hypercoagulation. In the PK protocol the IV lipids balance the lipids and in doing so do not let the blood cells stick together. For temporary relief of hypercoagulation digestive enzymes taken away from food, natto or lumbrokinase will unstick the cells. I have an exzyme supp. from twinlabs called super enzyme caps that doesn't seem to bother us. Love, Anita > > ANITA: took the test! > > > > Anita, > > I just took the test at https://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/. My > total VCS Score is 78, which is negative, and the overall indicator > score is 33. Would you mind sharing your results or what would > indicate a positive? I think some of my problems may still lie with > the tin toxicity. What a great test! > > Also, are you taking digestive enzymes and if so, can you recommend > a gentle brand? The last batch I tried really hurt my stomach. > > Thanks! > Beth > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Yes and I asked Dr. about it but he seems to think we have to do other stuff first. I just realized that Dr. Shoemaker and Kane have quite different protocols. I am getting very frustrated, very confused and very broke from all this. Every time I call to get questions answers I seem to bomb out. I finally gave my son a coffee enema yesterday and he did quite well. Maybe I should just try to take him to Mercola. Any ideas? Love, Anita PS the cholestyramine is a prescription isn't it? ANITA: took the test!> > > > Anita,> > I just took the test at https://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/. My > total VCS Score is 78, which is negative, and the overall indicator > score is 33. Would you mind sharing your results or what would > indicate a positive? I think some of my problems may still lie with > the tin toxicity. What a great test! > > Also, are you taking digestive enzymes and if so, can you recommend > a gentle brand? The last batch I tried really hurt my stomach.> > Thanks!> Beth> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 - Anita sorry they have you so confused. It really is frustrating trying to get well isn't it? I guess that is why I gave up on doctors. It never seemed like they were as helpful as I thought they would be. Now I try to do my own research and just get what I can without them unless I really have to have their help. I know julie had good luck with Dr. Mercola. I also know some other people who didn't think he helped. Each case is different. So, you might just keep trying to find someone locally to work with you. I had a pretty positive reaction to the coffee enema the first time too. For some reason, it seems to work that way with me at least half the time. I try something and I feel better, then next time I feel worse. But I keep plugging away. I am making that Brasco Broth again that jordin Rubin recommends. I think it is pretty potent with the garlic, coconut oil, and other goodies. So far I haven't had a terrible reaction to it! And it tastes really good---homemade chicken soup. My daughter loves it too! Hugs, kathy -- In , " anita kessler " <AnitaK001@m...> wrote: > Yes and I asked Dr. about it but he seems to think we have to do other stuff first. I just realized that Dr. Shoemaker and Kane have quite different protocols. I am getting very frustrated, very confused and very broke from all this. Every time I call to get questions answers I seem to bomb out. I finally gave my son a coffee enema yesterday and he did quite well. Maybe I should just try to take him to Mercola. Any ideas? Love, Anita PS the cholestyramine is a prescription isn't it? > > ANITA: took the test! > > > > > > > > Anita, > > > > I just took the test at https://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/. My > > total VCS Score is 78, which is negative, and the overall > indicator > > score is 33. Would you mind sharing your results or what would > > indicate a positive? I think some of my problems may still lie > with > > the tin toxicity. What a great test! > > > > Also, are you taking digestive enzymes and if so, can you > recommend > > a gentle brand? The last batch I tried really hurt my stomach. > > > > Thanks! > > Beth > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Try a product called Gabachild or GabaCalm. Lynda At 09:00 AM 11/20/2004, you wrote: >Hi Patty, >I am seeing progress with my son but he still has lots of issues. I think >the most distressing is the insomnia. I bought a supplement called Holy >Basil which is an adaptogenic herb and I am going to try that. It calms >down cortisol release which I think is what is keeping him from >sleeping. I'll let you know how it works. >I definitely think Dr. is helping him however it is getting very >expensive and I am anxious to proceed with the lipid therapy I am going >to talk to him about it next time I see him. There is a lipid test from >s Hopkins that assesses 64 different lipids and then gives >recommendations on balancing them. I am also anxiously awaiting the heavy >metals test that we did. That should be back any day now. >Yes, Dr. is giving him glutathione IV's so I am going to try to >keep doing the coffee enemas and juices with the IV's. My son is very >cooperative. He wants very badly to get well and is willing to try almost >anything. The hardest thing is trying to keep him on the diet which is so >important as you well know. >I found a very interesting product that I thought you might want to check >out. It is called the detoxx box and it was put together by Patircia >Kane. Here is the link ><http://www.detoxxbook.com/>http://www.detoxxbook.com/ . Let me know what >you all think. It comes with a detox book written by PK. The only thing >I see missing is some kind of liver cleanse but we all know how to do >that anyway. However I'm sure there must be something in there that >addresses the liver as that is an important part of her protocol I still >don't understand this all fully but I think I'm getting there. >I think it would be great for us to get together for lunch. I would love >to meet both of you. Let me know. Love, Anita > Re: Re: ANITA: took the test! > >Anita, >I am glad to hear your son did well on the coffee enema. It's hard to get >kids to do some of these things, but I hope he will see that it is helping >him. Are you doing any glutathione supplementation? > >How are you feeling about Dr. ? Still feel like things are moving >forward? > >I am sure Dr. Mercola would be a good doctor to go to, but it seems a long >way to go. There's got to be good help h > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Thank you Lynda. I will get some today. Love, Anita Re: Re: ANITA: took the test!>>Anita,>I am glad to hear your son did well on the coffee enema. It's hard to get >kids to do some of these things, but I hope he will see that it is helping >him. Are you doing any glutathione supplementation?>>How are you feeling about Dr. ? Still feel like things are moving >forward?>>I am sure Dr. Mercola would be a good doctor to go to, but it seems a long >way to go. There's got to be good help h>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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