Re: Negative Effects of Apples??

[Guest guest]

Apples are high in salicylates.

But salicylates aren't gluten or casein, nor do they hit opiate receptors.

>

> Subject: Negative Effects of Apples??

> To: autism_in_girls

> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 11:18 PM

> I mentioned to Melody's ABA Therapist that we took her

> off dairy because we found that it affects her sleep

> negatively, and she said we should also think about taking

> her off of apples too. She said that apples act as an opiate

> (perhaps she meant they act LIKE an opiate), and can make

> her very hyper, and if she has leaky gut (which I suspect

> she does, because I have it too), that it would affect her

> negatively, and that it could be an allergy to apples....

>

> Does this sound right to any of you? , do you have any

> idea what she's talking about? My husband and I just did

> a bunch of searching on the internet and cannot find

> anything negative about apples, in fact, every search we

> did, indicated that apples were actually a GOOD thing for

> autistic people, especially....

>

> Thanks!

>

> Lynn Shoop

> Co-Director

> www.novatomothersclub.com

>

> Creative Memories Senior Consultant

> www.mycmsite.com/lynnshoop

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

As Kassi mentioned apples are high in natural salicylates, chemicals

produced by plants mainly to discourage insect predators. Many

people on the spectrum have an enzyme deficiency which causes the

body to have difficulty processing salicylates and phenols (both

natural and synthetic), and they can build up to toxic levels and

cause both behavioral and physical symptoms. Some common signs of PST

deficiency are red cheeks and ears, dark circles under the eyes,

hyperactivity, aggression, headaches/head-banging, insomnia, night

waking and night sweats, and inappropriate laughter. Some of these

may also be a sign of yeast overgrowth. Food dyes and flavorings,

many fruits, chocolate, peanuts, milk and many more....all should be

avoided in the case of PST deficiency. You can get more specific

info at the Feingold Diet site:

http://www.feingold.org/

Epsom salts baths can help detoxify phenols and salicylates, as well

as taking special enzymes such as Houston's No-Fenol.

> I mentioned to Melody's ABA Therapist that we took her off dairy

> because we found that it affects her sleep negatively, and she said

> we should also think about taking her off of apples too. She said

> that apples act as an opiate (perhaps she meant they act LIKE an

> opiate), and can make her very hyper, and if she has leaky gut

> (which I suspect she does, because I have it too), that it would

> affect her negatively, and that it could be an allergy to apples....

>

> Does this sound right to any of you? , do you have any idea

> what she's talking about? My husband and I just did a bunch of

> searching on the internet and cannot find anything negative about

> apples, in fact, every search we did, indicated that apples were

> actually a GOOD thing for autistic people, especially....

>

> Thanks!

>

> Lynn Shoop

> Co-Director

> www.novatomothersclub.com

>

> Creative Memories Senior Consultant

> www.mycmsite.com/lynnshoop

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

As Kassi mentioned apples are high in natural salicylates, chemicals

produced by plants mainly to discourage insect predators. Many

people on the spectrum have an enzyme deficiency which causes the

body to have difficulty processing salicylates and phenols (both

natural and synthetic), and they can build up to toxic levels and

cause both behavioral and physical symptoms. Some common signs of PST

deficiency are red cheeks and ears, dark circles under the eyes,

hyperactivity, aggression, headaches/head-banging, insomnia, night

waking and night sweats, and inappropriate laughter. Some of these

may also be a sign of yeast overgrowth. Food dyes and flavorings,

many fruits, chocolate, peanuts, milk and many more....all should be

avoided in the case of PST deficiency. You can get more specific

info at the Feingold Diet site:

http://www.feingold.org/

Epsom salts baths can help detoxify phenols and salicylates, as well

as taking special enzymes such as Houston's No-Fenol.

> I mentioned to Melody's ABA Therapist that we took her off dairy

> because we found that it affects her sleep negatively, and she said

> we should also think about taking her off of apples too. She said

> that apples act as an opiate (perhaps she meant they act LIKE an

> opiate), and can make her very hyper, and if she has leaky gut

> (which I suspect she does, because I have it too), that it would

> affect her negatively, and that it could be an allergy to apples....

>

> Does this sound right to any of you? , do you have any idea

> what she's talking about? My husband and I just did a bunch of

> searching on the internet and cannot find anything negative about

> apples, in fact, every search we did, indicated that apples were

> actually a GOOD thing for autistic people, especially....

>

> Thanks!

>

> Lynn Shoop

> Co-Director

> www.novatomothersclub.com

>

> Creative Memories Senior Consultant

> www.mycmsite.com/lynnshoop

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

www.danasview.net <http://www.danasview.net> has a page on phenols and

salycilates that you might find helpful...

>

> I mentioned to Melody's ABA Therapist that we took her off dairy

because we found that it affects her sleep negatively, and she said we

should also think about taking her off of apples too. She said that

apples act as an opiate (perhaps she meant they act LIKE an opiate), and

can make her very hyper, and if she has leaky gut (which I suspect she

does, because I have it too), that it would affect her negatively, and

that it could be an allergy to apples....

>

> Does this sound right to any of you? , do you have any idea what

she's talking about? My husband and I just did a bunch of searching on

the internet and cannot find anything negative about apples, in fact,

every search we did, indicated that apples were actually a GOOD thing

for autistic people, especially....

>

> Thanks!

>

> Lynn Shoop

> Co-Director

> www.novatomothersclub.com

>

> Creative Memories Senior Consultant

> www.mycmsite.com/lynnshoop

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, I used Dana's list after I realized Allie had a MAJOR salicylate

issue. For some reason it never seemed t surface (or I was too dumb to

see it) until we went gfcf. The only fruits Allie could tolerate were

pear and mango. Any others made her cry for 2-3 hrs with runny

diarrhea. Once we took that away a HUGE difference was found.

Debi