Re: Gotu Kola

January 18, 2002

Hi Gail,

I'm not a diabetic but I use it daily, I really like it, it helps with

mental function, I use it along with tyrosine, to help speed my metabolism.

Just went off my thyroid pill so it helps a lot.

Laurie

Gotu Kola

>

> Hi Gang, Thought this might be of interest for any diabetics out there.

> Has anybody ever tried it? Gail

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ----------

> >

> > TROPICAL PLANT CAN PREVENT DIABETES COMPLICATIONS

> >

> ****************************************************************

> >

> > New research shows there's a natural, herbal remedy that can help

> > prevent and treat some of the most common complications of diabetes, a

> > condition that affects 16 million of us worldwide.

> >

> > It's gotu kola, a tropical creeping plant that's been a mainstay

of

> > ancient herbal medicine for centuries. (Gotu kola is also known by its

> Latin

> > name, centella asiatica, or as Indian pennywort.)

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> > Gotu kola can improve your circulation to help you avoid serious

> > problems

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > In older studies, this plant has been shown to lower blood

pressure,

> > improve varicose veins and hemorrhoids, reduce anxiety, and even improve

> > memory. And, in thousands of years of use, this natural therapy hasn't

> shown

> > any signs of adverse side effects. In India and Indonesia, it's often

used

> > to promote wound healing and to slow the progress of leprosy. Gotu kola

> has

> > also been used to treat keloids, the bulging, enlarged scars that

> sometimes

> > develop after surgery, and the connective tissue disease, scleroderma.

> >

> > Now new research coming out of England and Italy found that gotu

> kola

> > can help prevent and treat many of the complications of diabetes, such

as

> > swelling, poor circulation, nerve damage, and general vascular disease.

> This

> > is an urgent finding, because millions of people suffer with

> > diabetes-related health issues each year - ranging from skin ulcers to

> > amputation.

> >

> > While many are able to manage their diabetes effectively through

> > nutrition, exercise, and medication, the disease can take its toll on

the

> > body over the years. The problems are most often circulatory, resulting

in

> > nerve damage, skin ulcers, and vision problems. The American Diabetes

> > Association estimates that 60 to 70 percent of diabetics experience

> > neuropathy, a disease that damages the nerves in the arms and legs.

> > Sometimes the circulation to the feet is so poor that doctors are forced

> to

> > amputate. In fact, the ADA website states that more than 56,000 feet and

> > legs are amputated each year because of diabetes. Clearly, it's a

serious

> > problem - and one that mainstream medicine hasn't had much success in

> > curing.

> >

> > Some previous research (and many anecdotal reports) suggested that

> > gotu kola might be an answer. But the few studies that had been done

were

> > small and reportedly flawed. This time, researchers set out to conduct a

> > more thorough, scientific study to assess the herb's benefits.

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> > Even diabetics with existing nerve disease saw improvement with

gotu

> > kola

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > A total of 340 participants fell into three groups. Group A

> consisted

> > of 50 diabetics with peripheral neuropathy, a complication of diabetes

> that

> > impedes the function of the nerves in the arms and legs. Group B was

> > composed of 250 diabetics who did not yet show signs of neuropathy, and

> > group C was formed of 40 healthy non-diabetics, matched with the patient

> > groups for age and sex. Participants in groups A and B were randomly

> > assigned to take either 60 mg of gotu kola twice a day, or a placebo,

> while

> > all the participants in group C took placebo. The study continued for

one

> > year.

> >

> > The participants' conditions were assessed at baseline, and

> > periodically over the 12-month follow-up. The researchers tracked

> patients'

> > response by measuring four factors. Resting flux (RF) measured blood

flow

> to

> > the feet while sitting, and venoarteriolar response (VAR) assessed blood

> > flow to the feet after standing. Rate of ankle swelling (RAS) was

measured

> > with a device called a strain-gauge plethysmograph. Swelling (edema) was

> > also assessed by visual observation.

> >

> > After 12 months, the researchers noted impressive results.

Diabetics

> > both with and without neuropathy saw all of their markers improve,

> > suggesting that the herb can help treat AND prevent these common

> > complications of diabetes. In the group with neuropathy, circulation to

> the

> > feet while sitting and standing improved 38 percent, and the rate of

ankle

> > swelling improved 28 percent. Diabetics without neuropathy saw similar

> gains

> > in circulation and improvement in the rate of swelling. In contrast, the

> > rate of ankle swelling in diabetics using the placebo worsened.

> >

> > Over the course of the study, there were no reports of adverse

side

> > effects from taking gotu kola. Even from other sources, there are few

> > reported side effects. Some manufacturers say the herb may cause

headache;

> > others do not recommend taking gotu kola if you have an overactive

thyroid

> > or if you are taking tranquilizers or sedatives. Also most sources do

not

> > recommend the herb for pregnant and lactating women, as the herb's

effects

> > on the fetus and breast milk are not known. In rare cases, the topical

> > application of gotu kola can cause a mild allergic reaction.

> >

> > Gotu kola is widely available in health food stores and from

> > supplement suppliers. Some sources report that it can take up to four

> weeks

> > to see results from gotu kola; remember that the results in the study

were

> > seen after one year.

> >

> > But if you suffer from complications of diabetes, the relief is

> likely

> > worth the wait. And, as this study shows, a preventative dose may help

you

> > avoid serious complications in the future. If you have diabetes, there

are

> > many things you can do to help manage your disease. Now adding gotu kola

> to

> > your regimen is another proven step you can take to regain control over

> your

> > health.

> >

>

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January 19, 2002

SCIENCE NEWS, March 30 1991, pg 207

Shocking Treatment Proposed For AIDS

Zapping the AIDS virus with low voltage electric current can nearly eliminate

its ability to infect human white blood cells cultured in the laboratory,

reports a research team at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New

York City. D Lyman and his colleagues found that exposure to 50 to

100 microamperes of electricity - comparable to that produced by a cardiac

pacemaker - reduced the infectivity of the AIDS virus (HIV) by 50 to 95

percent. Their experiments, described March 14 in Washington D.C., at the

First International Symposium on Combination Therapies, showed that the

shocked viruses lost the ability to make an enzyme crucial to their

reproduction, and could no longer cause the white cells to clump together -

two key signs of virus infection. The finding could lead to tests of

implantable electrical devices or dialysis-like blood treatments in

HIV-infected patients Lyman says. In addition, he suggests that blood banks

might use electricity to zap HIV, and vaccine developers might use

electrically incapacitated viruses as the basis for an AIDS vaccine.

LONGEVITY, Dec 1992, pg 14

" Electrocuting " The AIDS Virus, A Safer-Yet Blood Supply

Despite official reassurances about the safety of the nation's blood supply,

concern lingers that small amounts of HIV-infected blood may be sneaking

through, especially since current screening detects only antibodies to the

virus, which can take months to form. But now a new electrical process for

cleaning blood of viruses may solve the problem. At the Albert Einstein

College of Medicine in New York City, Kaali, M.D., has found that most

of the AIDS viruses in a blood sample will lose their infectious capability

after being zapped by a very low-level current. Repeated exposure appears to

leave blood virtually free of HIV, as well as Hepatitis- without harming

blood cells. Kaali cautions that it will take years of testing before a

virus-electrocuting device is ready for use. But, ultimately, he predicts, it

could be used not just to purify blood, but to treat people with AIDS, by

channeling their blood out of the body, exposing it to virus-killing current

and then returning it. - Sharon McAuliffe

THE HOUSTON POST, March 20, 1991, section A-10 Your Health/Medicine

Scientists say Electric Current may help fight AIDS

Reuters News Service New York - Doctors at a prestigious New York medical

center are testing a new way to fight AIDS - using electrical energy to

weaken the killer virus - and say their first results are encouraging.

Researchers Lyman and Kaali of the Albert Einstein College of

Medicine said Tuesday that initial laboratory tests have shown electrical

current can weaken the virus believed to cause acquired immune deficiency

syndrome. The two men said they plan to move to the next phase of the

experiment in April using blood samples from people with AIDS. If their tests

are successful, the researchers hope it could lead to a new way to treat AIDS

patients, possibly involving a dialysis-type machine in which an AIDS

patient's blood would be treated with electrical current outside the body.

" What we have done is expose the AIDS virus in laboratory circumstances to

electrical current and then incubated the virus with white blood cells

susceptible to the virus. We found that the virus became much more

ineffective, " Kaali, a specialist in the medical use of electrical current,

said. He added that the use of electrical energy has no toxic side effects

and that a similar technique has been used as a treatment for reducing

Herpes.

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January 19, 2002

Hi Laurie.....How much of the gotu kola do you take daily? The article

mentiones 60mg. Good luck on the lack of thyroid medication. Thanks, Gail

Re: Gotu Kola

> Hi Gail,

> I'm not a diabetic but I use it daily, I really like it, it helps with

> mental function, I use it along with tyrosine, to help speed my

metabolism.

> Just went off my thyroid pill so it helps a lot.

> Laurie

January 20, 2002

Kosmostarr, that all well and good if it works, doesn't necessarily sound

safe, but what's that have to do with Gotu Kola?

Re: Gotu Kola

> SCIENCE NEWS, March 30 1991, pg 207

> Shocking Treatment Proposed For AIDS

> Zapping the AIDS virus with low voltage electric current can nearly

eliminate

> its ability to infect human white blood cells cultured in the laboratory,

> reports a research team at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New

> York City. D Lyman and his colleagues found that exposure to 50 to

> 100 microamperes of electricity - comparable to that produced by a cardiac

> pacemaker - reduced the infectivity of the AIDS virus (HIV) by 50 to 95

> percent. Their experiments, described March 14 in Washington D.C., at the

> First International Symposium on Combination Therapies, showed that the

> shocked viruses lost the ability to make an enzyme crucial to their

> reproduction, and could no longer cause the white cells to clump

together -

> two key signs of virus infection. The finding could lead to tests of

> implantable electrical devices or dialysis-like blood treatments in

> HIV-infected patients Lyman says. In addition, he suggests that blood

banks

> might use electricity to zap HIV, and vaccine developers might use

> electrically incapacitated viruses as the basis for an AIDS vaccine.

> LONGEVITY, Dec 1992, pg 14

> " Electrocuting " The AIDS Virus, A Safer-Yet Blood Supply

> Despite official reassurances about the safety of the nation's blood

supply,

> concern lingers that small amounts of HIV-infected blood may be sneaking

> through, especially since current screening detects only antibodies to the

> virus, which can take months to form. But now a new electrical process for

> cleaning blood of viruses may solve the problem. At the Albert Einstein

> College of Medicine in New York City, Kaali, M.D., has found that

most

> of the AIDS viruses in a blood sample will lose their infectious

capability

> after being zapped by a very low-level current. Repeated exposure appears

to

> leave blood virtually free of HIV, as well as Hepatitis- without harming

> blood cells. Kaali cautions that it will take years of testing before a

> virus-electrocuting device is ready for use. But, ultimately, he predicts,

it

> could be used not just to purify blood, but to treat people with AIDS, by

> channeling their blood out of the body, exposing it to virus-killing

current

> and then returning it. - Sharon McAuliffe

>

> THE HOUSTON POST, March 20, 1991, section A-10 Your Health/Medicine

> Scientists say Electric Current may help fight AIDS

> Reuters News Service New York - Doctors at a prestigious New York medical

> center are testing a new way to fight AIDS - using electrical energy to

> weaken the killer virus - and say their first results are encouraging.

> Researchers Lyman and Kaali of the Albert Einstein College

of

> Medicine said Tuesday that initial laboratory tests have shown electrical

> current can weaken the virus believed to cause acquired immune deficiency

> syndrome. The two men said they plan to move to the next phase of the

> experiment in April using blood samples from people with AIDS. If their

tests

> are successful, the researchers hope it could lead to a new way to treat

AIDS

> patients, possibly involving a dialysis-type machine in which an AIDS

> patient's blood would be treated with electrical current outside the body.

> " What we have done is expose the AIDS virus in laboratory circumstances to

> electrical current and then incubated the virus with white blood cells

> susceptible to the virus. We found that the virus became much more

> ineffective, " Kaali, a specialist in the medical use of electrical

current,

> said. He added that the use of electrical energy has no toxic side effects

> and that a similar technique has been used as a treatment for reducing

> Herpes.

>

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>

> Back to the top of the page.

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January 30, 2002

Obie,

In trying to improve your circulation, did you try exercise in fresh air

& sunshine. WHat I have found is that all efforts to improve circulation

are minimal, temporary, and " pie in the sky " without regular exercise!

jim

Obie wrote:

>

> Well, I thought I'd make a little report about what's happening to me with

this. I'm trying to increase my blood circulation and was using Flax Seed Oil

capsules which, after a while, didn't seem to continue to work and then I began

to read about " ...too much EFAs " . Well, someone mentioned Gotu Kola and I tried

it, glad to say boot feet nice and toasty, completely off FSO caps; hoping GK

works for a long while. Whoever wrote that post, Thank you. Obie.

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January 30, 2002

Jim, I'm sure you're right. I'm putting that off right now because I'm away

from my own home and I'm so busy trying to catch up in my work. I mean, I'm

swamped. I'll try to improve. Obie.

Re: Gotu Kola

Obie,

In trying to improve your circulation, did you try exercise in fresh air

& sunshine. WHat I have found is that all efforts to improve circulation

are minimal, temporary, and " pie in the sky " without regular exercise!

jim

Obie wrote:

>

> Well, I thought I'd make a little report about what's happening to me with

this. I'm trying to increase my blood circulation and was using Flax Seed Oil

capsules which, after a while, didn't seem to continue to work and then I began

to read about " ...too much EFAs " . Well, someone mentioned Gotu Kola and I tried

it, glad to say boot feet nice and toasty, completely off FSO caps; hoping GK

works for a long while. Whoever wrote that post, Thank you. Obie.

--

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http://www.entrance.to/poetry

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January 30, 2002

Hi Obie,

I went back an reread the article I sent. The study was done with 60mg.

twice a day, not once daily as I stated before; my mistake. It also stated

there has been no adverse side effect, but is not recommended for pregnant

and lactating women, or those with an overactive thyroid, or if taking

tranquilizers or sedatives. The brand I got was from Solary and states to

take two or three capsules two time a day with meals or a glass of water, so

I would assume you can take at least that amount. The capsules are 450mg.

each.

In the study done, some diabetics with peripheral neuropathy and diabetics

without were randomly given the herb or a placebo. The results were very

incourageing: Those with neuropathy improved 38% and ankle swelling

improved 28%. Those without neuropathy also improved. However, those

taking the placebo had ankle swelling worsened. It did not mention if

exercise was included or not.

The herb has also been helpful to lower blood pressure, improve vericose

veins and hemorrhoids, reduce anxiety, & improve memory (could use some help

myself with that one. Ha!).

On a little side note: I'm doing my own study. Since coming down with

cfids, I've always have had a low body temp., running anywhere from high

95's to low 97's. This morning I took my temp before getting out of bed; it

was 98. Now I don't know if it was just because the bed was warm and toasty

or what, but I'm going to keep an eye on it. Any I really don't have a

clue as to or if it is because of the herb.

On a more personal side note: In my humble opinion, I happen to think you

are a credit to the male gender in the way that you cherish your lady wife.

It is most pleasurable to observe and a credit to the good-hearted man that

you are.

Take care,

Gail

Re: Gotu Kola

> Hi, Sonshine:

> Well, my bottle of Gotu Kola came from Walmart. I figured cheap and

cheerful. The caps contain 435 mg each; says take one per day. Hey, do I

appreciate your getting back to me; for 2 reasons. I wanted to ask if I

take more will I ruin something since you indicated 60 mg per day; evidently

not if your bottle says take 2 or 3 per day @ 450 mg each.

>

> I want to try to rev up this circulation a little more because I feel the

warmth of better blood circulation almost every place. I just gotta get on

with . what's left. Secondly, I wanted to thank you personally, Gail. I'm

sure those who give out certain details on this list don't realize the good

it does for some of us who receive it.

>

> Oh, by the way my " lady " is my wife. Years ago I heard the one about

asking Bubba " Hey, who was that lady I saw you with last night " and Bubba

says " That was no lady, that was my wife " . Well, I made up my mind long ago

that I would view her as a lady and, you know, she is certainly every bit a

lady today. You'd enjoy knowing her. She's taking GK, too.

>

January 30, 2002

So, what is considered too much. On average.

Thanks,

Donna

Re: Gotu Kola

Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:03:34 -0800

What are the dangers of too much EFA " s?

Donna

----- Original Message -----

and then I began to read about " ...too much EFAs " .

January 30, 2002

Dear Donna,

With Udo's Ultimate Oil Blend, they recommend 1 or 2 capsules

three times per day with meals.

There is 1000 mg in the bottle which is 180 gelatin capsules (with carob).

They say 14 capsules is equivalent to 15 ml which is 1 tablespoon of oil.

Therefore six capsules per day would be just under

a half tablespoon.

Udo's (from Flora) is a blend of several oils. It has:

flax oil

sunflower oil

sesame oil

medium chain triglycerides

evening primrose oil

soy lecithin (guaranteed gmo free)

rice bran oil

rice germ oil

oat bran oil

oat germ oil

rosemary extract

tocotrienol

The ratio is 2:1:1 of Omega 3:6:9

All oils are cold pressed in a nitrogen atmosphere.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

-------------------------------------------------------

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: Re: Gotu Kola

Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:53:23 -0800

So, what is considered too much. On average.

Thanks,

Donna

Re: Gotu Kola

Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:03:34 -0800

What are the dangers of too much EFA " s?

Donna

----- Original Message -----

and then I began to read about " ...too much EFAs " .

January 30, 2002

Donna,

Are you willing to eat the fish raw? I do! If you aren't, take the

capsules, because cooked fish has heated oil and that won't work!

jim

Donna wrote:

>

Since we are supposed to be able to eat fish a few times a week and get

good efa's, shouldn't we be able to do fish oils/ omega 3's from fish

oils 3-5 times a week and be getting enough?

>

> Thanks,

> Donna

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January 30, 2002

Hi Dr. Pressman. I don't do flax, because it makes me depressed. Udo's has

other things in it and so I can do a little of it, but still, eventually it

starts to work against me. So I do fish oil. Actually Omega 3's by Carlson. I

am wondering what is a useful/safe amount. Since we are supposed to be able to

eat fish a few times a week and get good efa's, shouldn't we be able to do fish

oils/ omega 3's from fish oils 3-5 times a week and be getting enough?

Also, if a person has high blood pressure, what would be an average amount of

omega 3's to take to lower bp?

Thanks,

Donna

----- Original Message -----

Dear Donna,

With Udo's Ultimate Oil Blend, they recommend 1 or 2 capsules

three times per day with meals.

There is 1000 mg in the bottle which is 180 gelatin capsules (with carob).

They say 14 capsules is equivalent to 15 ml which is 1 tablespoon of oil.

Therefore six capsules per day would be just under

a half tablespoon.

Udo's (from Flora) is a blend of several oils. It has:

flax oil

sunflower oil

sesame oil

medium chain triglycerides

evening primrose oil

soy lecithin (guaranteed gmo free)

rice bran oil

rice germ oil

oat bran oil

oat germ oil

rosemary extract

tocotrienol

The ratio is 2:1:1 of Omega 3:6:9

All oils are cold pressed in a nitrogen atmosphere.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

-------------------------------------------------------

January 30, 2002

Gail, thank you, M'Lady. I wish Jim would let me, I'd tell the list how I

changed my own personal standards, how I searched for her, found her, who she

is. In fact, if I don't get a go ahead this week, I'll post you personally and

tell you what happened. I mean, using this method, who can get the wrong mate?

Obie.

Hi Obie,

I went back an reread the article I sent. The study was done with 60mg.

twice a day, not once daily as I stated before; my mistake. It

January 30, 2002

Donna, I got up to 12-1000 mg FSO capsules per day. In the beginning, it was

wonderful. I'd had cold feet for 35 years. After starting this, some days my

feet were warm, some not. Ocassionally, one foot was warm, one was cool. I

asked Dr. Saul if I should go up to 15; five three times per day. He suggested

I stay at 12. Before long after that, something inside started going " Oh, no,

not again..........please ! " I stopped all FSO capsules. I'm now at about 3

weeks without any and feeling much better; taking the GK about 10 days; much

happier this way. I'm going to start with FO and cottage cheese in about 3

weeks and see how that goes. Starting today, I'm going up to 2 435 mg GK caps

per day to see if everything else gets and stays warmer for a period of time.

Your question, for FSO capsules only, for me 12 was max over 7 - 8 months. More

later. Obie.

So, what is considered too much. On average.

Thanks,

Donna

January 30, 2002

I tried straight fish oil caps and had nose bleeds immediately. I don't know

what was up with that, but it happened with several different cod liver oils.

So I switched to omega 3's from fish oil and don't seem to have a problem.

So when you noticed a problem, exactly what was it, Obie. I am not clear on that

from what you wrote.