Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 That sounds like it would be a PT issue. Does he see a PT? We've never experienced this, but it doesn't mean it is not related. Noelle (12-2-01) Ian (8-15-04) Toeing Out? My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination)? __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 He does see a PT. I don't know whether she has fully seen the toeing out issue or not. He just got his walker last week and I haven't had a chance to really discuss it with her. I plan on bringing it up this Friday. I think in general she's probably not going to have a whole lot of insight into it though. She's a very bright PT and will probably have some good exercises for us to do with him to help. But she hasn't really dealt with the scoliosis and casting before and Dylan seems to have a lot of quirky issues, so when it comes to the why is he doing this, we will have to defer to the doctors at this point, because she does not see any obvious muscular assymetries, etc. [infantile_scoliosi s] Toeing Out? My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination) ? ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 What does 'toeing out' mean exactly? 's (17 m.o., right-sided scoliosis) feet are both very pronated, and his always starts with his left foot...lifts that knee up high... and drags the right somewhat. The right leg almost seems longer when he stands (kind of propped out). He's not walking yet, but a little bit in his walker. The ortho doesn't think it's the scoliosis? (maybe weakness from chemotherapy or could be normal baby feet that will straighten out), my PT thinks it is b/c of the scoliosis b/c his hips are off and recommended orthotics (shoe inserts to stablize the ankle) so that the feet correct as he's in the cast....in sum, I don't really have a clear answer. It did seem to get better with the cast. We just keep trying everything. - > > He does see a PT. I don't know whether she has fully seen the toeing out issue or not. He just got his walker last week and I haven't had a chance to really discuss it with her. I plan on bringing it up this Friday. I think in general she's probably not going to have a whole lot of insight into it though. She's a very bright PT and will probably have some good exercises for us to do with him to help. But she hasn't really dealt with the scoliosis and casting before and Dylan seems to have a lot of quirky issues, so when it comes to the why is he doing this, we will have to defer to the doctors at this point, because she does not see any obvious muscular assymetries, etc. > > > > [infantile_scoliosi s] Toeing Out? > > My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination) ? > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Kind of the opposite of pigeon toed. He points his right foot outwards. [infantile_scoliosi s] Toeing Out? > > My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination) ? > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Evan walked like that for a long time, I " ll upload a pic to his folder...you can take a look. His PT said it was " normal " for him b/c he felt like Evan was compensating. HTH and Evan Dolley wrote: Kind of the opposite of pigeon toed. He points his right foot outwards. [infantile_scoliosi s] Toeing Out? > > My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination) ? > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 interesting you mention this. My son Devyn uses his left foot for everyhing. When he first got his cast in May I noticed more that his right foot turned inwards when he walked. He see's a Physical therapist twice a month. She works on using the right foot as much as possible. We walk him up and down the stairs and try to make him put his right foot first then left to follow. They also took a drawing of his feet and have determined he is very flat footed. They are trying to get him orthotics to see if it will help. Rochelle mom to Devyn 2yrs infantile scoliosis, chiari 1. Tiffanni 10yrs. Dominic 7yrs. > > My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination)? > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi , My son Finn walks (assisted) with his left foot pointing out. I was told that he was trying to balance himself. Dolley wrote: My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination)? __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hi - I'm considering a orthopedic walker for who is not walking at 18 months. His feet are pronated, he always leads with his left (right-sided scoliosis), and his right foot drags behind and seems longer/weaker. I'm wondering if the walker was recommended by your ortho or PT? Has it been helpful? Thank you > > He does see a PT. I don't know whether she has fully seen the toeing out issue or not. He just got his walker last week and I haven't had a chance to really discuss it with her. I plan on bringing it up this Friday. I think in general she's probably not going to have a whole lot of insight into it though. She's a very bright PT and will probably have some good exercises for us to do with him to help. But she hasn't really dealt with the scoliosis and casting before and Dylan seems to have a lot of quirky issues, so when it comes to the why is he doing this, we will have to defer to the doctors at this point, because she does not see any obvious muscular assymetries, etc. > > > > [infantile_scoliosi s] Toeing Out? > > My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination) ? > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 The walker was recommended by my PT. Not so much for the unusual gait, but just for the gross motor delay in general. Before we got the walker, he could not cruise around pushing push toys, because they were just too fast for him and he didn't have the balance and would just fall right over. However, by the time we got the walker he was cruising all over the place and can now use his push toys, etc. We probably haven't used his walker as much as we should, but we are starting to use it more frequently now. I think the main thing it helps him with is balance. [infantile_scoliosi s] Toeing Out? > > My son just got a pediatric orthopedic walker last week and has been using it to walk around the house. I am noticing that he always seems to start off with his left foot and follow with his right. The right foot seems to lag behind (he picks it up and steps with it, but it seems to be a slower movement than with the left foot) and that his right foot toes out quite a bit. I had posted a couple weeks ago about how we have noticed an assymetry with his army crawling (mostly dragging the right foot) and I got quite a few responses back about people noticing the same with their children, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this same walking issue that we are noticing? I'm trying to figure out if these issues are related to the cast, the scoliosis, or an underlying disorder (or a combination) ? > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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