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Sodium, and coffee. Yes, I have cut back on coffee, however, just noticed

that oatmeal cookies have 8% SODIUM! I stopped them immediately, after

realizing t his. Is there any short-cut way to get this swelling down. Yes,

I am drinking more water, and am about to go onto my apple cider vinegar and

honey fast again, as last year.

Is there anything else I can do. My foot won't fit into my shoes! I have

been too inactive lately on computor. Will begin walking, and taking asprin

again for clots. Rose, thanks you all...

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amazing, I was prescribed two aspirin daily, when I had a clot in my leg. I

thought that was alot, so I didn't do it all the time. I would take aspirin

vacations. Thank you soooo MUCH Saul, Rose

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I recalled reading in a booklet by A. Passwater, PhD. 'The New

Superantioxidant --- Plus " that a study was done in Italy using Pycnogenol,

which yielded positive results with venous congestion in the legs.

Here is what Passwater wrote, based on a report from Prof Arcangeli of the

Univ. of Florence (June 16, 1989). From page 32 of the booklet:

--------------------------

EDEMA

" Italian scientists from the University of Florence studied the effect of

Pycnogenol on venous congestion in the legs --- leg edema. The study

involved 40 subjects consisting of 13 men and 27 women between the ages of

34 and 74, having an average age of 60 years. The subjects were randomly

divided into two groups. One group served as the control group and received

a placebo supplement . . . The other group received 300 milligrams of

Pycnogenol daily for 60 days.

All of those taking the Pycnogenol had relief from at least some of the

symptoms. There was a decrease in the feeling of heaviness in lower limbs in

11 percent of those receiving Pycnogenol after 30 days, and in 33% after 60

days.

The swelling disappeared in 26 percent of those taking the Pycnogenol after

30 days, and in 63 percent after 60 days (circumference measured above the

ankle before and after test). Pain in the lower limbs was totally relieved

in 38 percent of those taking Pycnogenol after 30 days, and in 67 percent

after 60 days. "

-------------------------

I presume that these people were not given any additional supplements in

order to keep the test " pure. " If you were to take 800 units of vitamin E

and 1000 mg of vitamin C simultaneously with the Pycnogenol each day I think

your chances of better and faster results would be enhanced. And you might

not have to take as much Pycnogenol, which is the most expensive part of

this plan.

If you are interested and send me your snail mail address privately I will

mail you a copy of Passwater's 46-page booklet which was published by Keats

Publishing Inc. in New Canaan CT.

WARNING --- When you take this bunch of effective oral antioxidants

simultaneously --- that work synergistically --- for the first time you may

cause a patch of plaque or a clot to break loose. Behind the plaque is gooey

stuff that will suddenly thicken your blood. You may then feel tremendous

pressure in your head and all over. You must have on hand in the house ---

ready to take immediately --- two adult aspirin with three or four ounces of

wine. This will thin out your blood in 30 minutes or less and the crisis

will be over. You do it only once. Just once gives me a bit of a nose bleed.

If you elect to take Pycnogenol with Vitamin C and E, you should

discontinue the aspirin while doing this to avoid internal bleeding.

Dr. Passwater cites another study that demonstrated that Pycnogenol

strengthened the walls of arteries, veins and capillaries. It did this for

me --- made a bulging vein in the calf of my right leg disappear in four

months. I had the one-inch long bulge for more than ten years.

Consequently I believe that Pycnogenol is great for strengthening the walls

of veins and arteries. At any rate it certainly worked for me. I suggest

that you give Pycnogenol WITH vitamins C and E a six month trial but WITHOUT

the daily aspirin.

Passwater advocated Pycnogenol INSTEAD of aspirin for blood thinning ---

safer but more expensive. And he said it is best taken simultaneously with

vitamin E and vitamin C.

Donsbach warned years ago that powerful oral antioxidants can cause a

breaking loose of a patch of plaque resulting in a sudden thickening of the

blood. He therefore advocated intravenous chelation as a start and then

switch to oral chelation with oral antioxidants after about ten IV chelation

treatments.

swollen leg--plus

> Sodium, and coffee. Yes, I have cut back on coffee, however, just noticed

> that oatmeal cookies have 8% SODIUM! I stopped them immediately, after

> realizing t his. Is there any short-cut way to get this swelling down.

Yes,

> I am drinking more water, and am about to go onto my apple cider vinegar

and

> honey fast again, as last year.

> Is there anything else I can do. My foot won't fit into my shoes! I have

> been too inactive lately on computor. Will begin walking, and taking

asprin

> again for clots. Rose, thanks you all...

>

>

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Dear Rose,

Skip the aspirin. The reports on its effectiveness in

preventing blood clots and heart attacks were fudged by Bayer.

7000 people a year die from aspirin.

Natural diuretics are :

& #61623; Vitamin C with bioflavinoids;

& #61623; Vitamin B6

& #61623; Niacin

& #61623; Magnesium

& #61623; Silica

& #61623; Watermelon (juiced)

& #61623; Horse chestnut extract

& #61623; Parsley tea

& #61623; Bitter melon (balsam pear)

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: ERCCoach@...

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To: oxyplus

Subject: swollen leg--plus

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:58:39 EST

Sodium, and coffee. Yes, I have cut back on coffee, however, just noticed

that oatmeal cookies have 8% SODIUM! I stopped them immediately, after

realizing t his. Is there any short-cut way to get this swelling down.

Yes,

I am drinking more water, and am about to go onto my apple cider vinegar and

honey fast again, as last year.

Is there anything else I can do. My foot won't fit into my shoes! I have

been too inactive lately on computor. Will begin walking, and taking asprin

again for clots. Rose, thanks you all...

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In addition to Saul's excellent list, consider taking

CoQ10 to strengthen the heart. I've seen it work

miracles.

jp

Dear Rose,

Skip the aspirin. The reports on its effectiveness in

preventing blood clots and heart attacks were fudged by Bayer.

7000 people a year die from aspirin.

Natural diuretics are :

& #61623; Vitamin C with bioflavinoids;

& #61623; Vitamin B6

& #61623; Niacin

& #61623; Magnesium

& #61623; Silica

& #61623; Watermelon (juiced)

& #61623; Horse chestnut extract

& #61623; Parsley tea

& #61623; Bitter melon (balsam pear)

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

------------------------------------------------

From: ERCCoach@...

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: oxyplus

Subject: swollen leg--plus

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:58:39 EST

Sodium, and coffee. Yes, I have cut back on coffee, however, just noticed

that oatmeal cookies have 8% SODIUM! I stopped them immediately, after

realizing t his. Is there any short-cut way to get this swelling down.

Yes,

I am drinking more water, and am about to go onto my apple cider vinegar and

honey fast again, as last year.

Is there anything else I can do. My foot won't fit into my shoes! I have

been too inactive lately on computor. Will begin walking, and taking asprin

again for clots. Rose, thanks you all...

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My step dad gets swollen feet and ankles and he has found that cleavers extract,

10-20 drops a day, works very well for him. Cleavers is an herb that has

diuretic qualities. He has used Herb Pharms brand.

Hope this helps.

Donna

swollen leg--plus

Sodium, and coffee. Yes, I have cut back on coffee, however, just noticed

that oatmeal cookies have 8% SODIUM! I stopped them immediately, after

realizing t his. Is there any short-cut way to get this swelling down. Yes,

I am drinking more water, and am about to go onto my apple cider vinegar and

honey fast again, as last year.

Is there anything else I can do. My foot won't fit into my shoes! I have

been too inactive lately on computor. Will begin walking, and taking asprin

again for clots. Rose, thanks you all...

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health

care provider.

You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following

address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! -

DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the

message! :

oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups

oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode.

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