Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hi all, Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. It's concerning. How about ozone? Thanks, A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Abutilon, That's 16 cases of necrotizing fasciitis this year, not currently. There have been some recent deaths, though. I have repeatedly tried to get them to try ozone but they are a stupid lot. I have even had naturopaths call up the hospital and offer to treat the patients with ozone, but without response. Good Lord, a bottle of hydrogen peroxide from the drug store would stop this crap. And that information has been in the newspapers before. The local Health Action group has contacted me to try and get something happening on this and on meningitis. I will do my best, but I am not hopeful. Educated ignoramuses... We had a nurse from a hospital taking treatments for fibromyalgia, and she got better after being on disability for three years, and is back at work for a year. She is now in the burn ward, and has been buying jars of Nature's Gift and selling them to her coworkers. They have been surreptitiously putting it on burns when the doctors are not looking, but the cat has gotten out of the bag, because there have been too many reversals in cases that looked like they were heading for skin grafts. So now there is going to be a big meeting on the ward, and the doctors want to know what has been going on. I am providing her with the scientific abstracts from the ozone conferences, but I fear that they will not be taken seriously because they are mostly from Cuba, which has the largest ozone research program in the world. Time will tell... Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ----------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Flesh eating disease Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:35:47 -0800 Hi all, Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. It's concerning. How about ozone? Thanks, A. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Jars of Natures Gift??Is this OOO Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 colloidal silver & hydrogen peroxide...I would also alternate applications of aloe vera gel every other day. Do you know whether it's a bacterial or viral infection? l) w/peace wes bennett wesbenn@... <A HREF= " http://www.knowledgeisthecure.com/ " >www.knowledgeisthecure.com</A> > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that > bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. > It's concerning. How about ozone? > > Thanks, > > A. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Abutilon, Aside from ozone & peroxide, I would think pouring cane sugar into an open infection, if nothing welse were available, would at least deal with the external infection. While I have never heard of it being used on the bacterial fascitis going around, it is supposed to kill any open, external infection. And, I'd try Willard water too, in a pinch. It has a small amount of peroxide, which might account for why it prevents infection in large 3rd degree burns. And, it leaves a sort of protective film over the infected site, keeping out further external infection. jim Abutilon wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that > bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. > It's concerning. How about ozone? > > Thanks, > > A. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Hi Abutilon; <<Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. It's concerning. How about ozone?>> I agree. Because I've read similar therapies, like for the diabetic foot, my first choice would be intra-arterial ozone, then intravenous, then IV peroxide, then transdermal ozone. Or even in combination, why not? This should produce a very high success rate. ciao Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Sylvia, Yes, Nature's Gift is ozonated olive oil. Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH From: tangotina@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: Flesh eating disease Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:36:14 -0500 (EST) Jars of Natures Gift??Is this OOO Sylvia _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 How does sugar kill infection? I have never heard this before. Do you know what the mechanism is? Thanks, Donna -----Original Message----- Abutilon, Aside from ozone & peroxide, I would think pouring cane sugar into an open infection, if nothing welse were available, would at least deal with the external infection. While I have never heard of it being used on the bacterial fascitis going around, it is supposed to kill any open, external infection. And, I'd try Willard water too, in a pinch. It has a small amount of peroxide, which might account for why it prevents infection in large 3rd degree burns. And, it leaves a sort of protective film over the infected site, keeping out further external infection. jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Donna, The only explanation I got years ago was, " Nothing can live in sugar. " Think about it. You can leave it sitting out indefinitely, but if it doesn't get wet, nothing nasty ever grows in it. jim Donna wrote: > > How does sugar kill infection? I have never heard this before. Do you know what the mechanism is? > > Thanks, > Donna -- " Roccy Raccoon is a stalker! " -- J. Clay Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 When I had flu I would always feel better after having something with sugar. I guess this explains it, perhaps sugar hastens an infection to run its course. Subject: Re: Flesh eating disease Donna, The only explanation I got years ago was, " Nothing can live in sugar. " Think about it. You can leave it sitting out indefinitely, but if it doesn't get wet, nothing nasty ever grows in it. jim Donna wrote: > > How does sugar kill infection? I have never heard this before. Do you know what the mechanism is? > > Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Jim: Are you sure you're not confusing it with honey? I have never heard this about sugar before. Indeed, everything I've ever read about it indicates that all kinds of bacteria and yeast thrive on it. Honey, on the other hand has a well established reputation as an antifungal, anti-microbial, etc. This is why honey is used to help heal scrapes, wounds, etc. Vivian -------- > > > > How does sugar kill infection? I have never heard this before. Do you know what the mechanism is? > > > > Thanks, > > Donna > -- > > " Roccy Raccoon is a stalker! " -- J. Clay Lambert > > jlambert@p... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Saul What is Natures Gift? Waddle In a message dated 01/15/2002 12:28:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, spressman@... writes: > We had a nurse from a hospital taking treatments for > fibromyalgia, and she got better after being on > disability for three years, and is back at work for a > year. She is now in the burn ward, and has been buying > jars of Nature's Gift and selling them to her coworkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 D-Mannose helps bladder infections by keeping the bacteria from sticking to the wall of the bladder. Xylitol helps with sinus infections/allergies and cavities in the same manner. Would table sugar help because of the same principle? I have seen where 4 teaspoons of sugar in orange juice is supposed to help nausea. Does anyone know why? jp When I had flu I would always feel better after having something with sugar. I guess this explains it, perhaps sugar hastens an infection to run its course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 Hi ! --- Price wrote: > ...I have seen where 4 teaspoons of sugar in orange juice is > supposed to help nausea. Does anyone know why? > jp I believe that when the body's blood sugar level is low, a person can get nauseous. Giving a person sugar in OJ speeds glucose into their system raising their blood sugar levels and easing the nausea. This only works if the nausea is not caused by flu or some other bacterial attack. One final point: Just because sugar is what bacteria and yeast feed on does not mean that they will thrive in pure white sugar. Simple sugars and complex sugars are completely different. Tom Nesler __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 Dear Dr. Saul, Thanks for this precious information. I suppose you mean putting H2O2 directly on the infected flesh would do it? Usually is it 35%, the one that we buy at the store? It's hard to believe that so simple a cure exists for this horrible disease. So simple and affordable! I'm glad to know. However, it's terrible to think that it would be so simple to cure and so affordable, and people die of it! Always upsetting to hear that people suffer and even die because those that we suppose 'know' refuse to listen, or try, even a simple cure! It is why I began searching to learn for mysefl some years ago. On the news, they said there were 9 new cases since last September on the big island. You mention that you tried to get them to try ozone. Would you say it would be necessary to use both H2O2 and ozone? By the way, I sincerely wish they'll be able to continue using OOO in the burn ward. A. on 1/15/02 12:26 AM, Saul Pressman at spressman@... wrote: Dear Abutilon, That's 16 cases of necrotizing fasciitis this year, not currently. There have been some recent deaths, though. I have repeatedly tried to get them to try ozone but they are a stupid lot. I have even had naturopaths call up the hospital and offer to treat the patients with ozone, but without response. Good Lord, a bottle of hydrogen peroxide from the drug store would stop this crap. And that information has been in the newspapers before. The local Health Action group has contacted me to try and get something happening on this and on meningitis. I will do my best, but I am not hopeful. Educated ignoramuses... We had a nurse from a hospital taking treatments for fibromyalgia, and she got better after being on disability for three years, and is back at work for a year. She is now in the burn ward, and has been buying jars of Nature's Gift and selling them to her coworkers. They have been surreptitiously putting it on burns when the doctors are not looking, but the cat has gotten out of the bag, because there have been too many reversals in cases that looked like they were heading for skin grafts. So now there is going to be a big meeting on the ward, and the doctors want to know what has been going on. I am providing her with the scientific abstracts from the ozone conferences, but I fear that they will not be taken seriously because they are mostly from Cuba, which has the largest ozone research program in the world. Time will tell... Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ----------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 Dear A., 3% H2O2 is all that is necessary. 35% is too powerful, except maybe in an extreme case, like gangrene, where it stops it cold, but hurts a lot. Remember when Bouchard of the Bloc Quebecois lost his leg to flesh-eating disease a few years back? The week after, I cut out an article from the paper that said that a lady in Montreal at a hospital 6 blocks away from Bouchard's had had the same disease, and it was halted by the application of hydrogen peroxide! I guess it's just Russian roulette out there. Just think of the possibilities of a few hundred dollars of hydrogen peroxide in a hospital setting: - misters putting a small amount of H2O2 into the air, so that all surfaces are sterilized, instead of being a breeding ground - water humidifiers with a tiny amount of H2O2 in them so that no pneumonia could set in on any patient - surgical wounds bathed in a spray of H2O2 before bandaging, and daily after that, healing rapidly without infection, and with minimal scarring. - all viral and bacterial infections halted in their tracks with no worry ever about their mutating a developing a resistance. - costs for expensive drugs plummeting to rock bottom levels When you look at a list like that, you realize that NOT using H2O2 is CRIMINAL. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: Flesh eating disease Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:02:52 -0800 Dear Dr. Saul, Thanks for this precious information. I suppose you mean putting H2O2 directly on the infected flesh would do it? Usually is it 35%, the one that we buy at the store? It's hard to believe that so simple a cure exists for this horrible disease. So simple and affordable! I'm glad to know. However, it's terrible to think that it would be so simple to cure and so affordable, and people die of it! Always upsetting to hear that people suffer and even die because those that we suppose 'know' refuse to listen, or try, even a simple cure! It is why I began searching to learn for mysefl some years ago. On the news, they said there were 9 new cases since last September on the big island. You mention that you tried to get them to try ozone. Would you say it would be necessary to use both H2O2 and ozone? By the way, I sincerely wish they'll be able to continue using OOO in the burn ward. A. on 1/15/02 12:26 AM, Saul Pressman at spressman@... wrote: Dear Abutilon, That's 16 cases of necrotizing fasciitis this year, not currently. There have been some recent deaths, though. I have repeatedly tried to get them to try ozone but they are a stupid lot. I have even had naturopaths call up the hospital and offer to treat the patients with ozone, but without response. Good Lord, a bottle of hydrogen peroxide from the drug store would stop this crap. And that information has been in the newspapers before. The local Health Action group has contacted me to try and get something happening on this and on meningitis. I will do my best, but I am not hopeful. Educated ignoramuses... We had a nurse from a hospital taking treatments for fibromyalgia, and she got better after being on disability for three years, and is back at work for a year. She is now in the burn ward, and has been buying jars of Nature's Gift and selling them to her coworkers. They have been surreptitiously putting it on burns when the doctors are not looking, but the cat has gotten out of the bag, because there have been too many reversals in cases that looked like they were heading for skin grafts. So now there is going to be a big meeting on the ward, and the doctors want to know what has been going on. I am providing her with the scientific abstracts from the ozone conferences, but I fear that they will not be taken seriously because they are mostly from Cuba, which has the largest ozone research program in the world. Time will tell... Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ----------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Thanks Duncan, Jim, Seems there could be more than one possible alternative to help curing this disease. Reassuring. A. on 1/15/02 10:18 AM, Duncan Crow at duncancrow@... wrote: Hi Abutilon; <<Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. It's concerning. How about ozone?>> I agree. Because I've read similar therapies, like for the diabetic foot, my first choice would be intra-arterial ozone, then intravenous, then IV peroxide, then transdermal ozone. Or even in combination, why not? This should produce a very high success rate. ciao Duncan Abutilon, Aside from ozone & peroxide, I would think pouring cane sugar into an open infection, if nothing welse were available, would at least deal with the external infection. While I have never heard of it being used on the bacterial fascitis going around, it is supposed to kill any open, external infection. And, I'd try Willard water too, in a pinch. It has a small amount of peroxide, which might account for why it prevents infection in large 3rd Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Hyperbaric oxygen is the key to Flesh eating disease, It is the enzymes that are out of control, they must be put underpressure at a deep depth in order to stop the cycle We have treated with success, it requires debriment of the area, Hyperbaric Oxygen and an MD. Do not self medicate this disorder! www.hbot4u.com Re: Flesh eating disease Thanks Duncan, Jim, Seems there could be more than one possible alternative to help curing this disease. Reassuring. A. on 1/15/02 10:18 AM, Duncan Crow at duncancrow@... wrote: Hi Abutilon; <<Does anyone know what can stop 'flesh eating disease' and/or kill that bacteria that eats flesh? I hear there are 16 cases in , Canada. It's concerning. How about ozone?>> I agree. Because I've read similar therapies, like for the diabetic foot, my first choice would be intra-arterial ozone, then intravenous, then IV peroxide, then transdermal ozone. Or even in combination, why not? This should produce a very high success rate. ciao Duncan Abutilon, Aside from ozone & peroxide, I would think pouring cane sugar into an open infection, if nothing welse were available, would at least deal with the external infection. While I have never heard of it being used on the bacterial fascitis going around, it is supposed to kill any open, external infection. And, I'd try Willard water too, in a pinch. It has a small amount of peroxide, which might account for why it prevents infection in large 3rd Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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