Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I copied this off another site and wanted to see what you guys made of it if your not on the other site... ....New here, had surgery at 11, grown up now and research finally payin Posted by: " Alison " planet2334@... planet2334 Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:41 am (PST) Hi, my name's Alison, I live in New York State, I was the first in my school to be detected with scoliosis when the screenings at the schools started by state law back in 1978. The nurses gathered 'round and whispered to each other, I learned later that I had a 78 degree curve at 11 years old, my parents were told without surgery I would be in a wheelchair by the age of 14, and research I did in my 20's showed that only 10 years earlier people with my level of severity to my curve had not been living much past the age of 35. I'm 40 now, I have a great 19 year old daughter who fortunately did not have scoliosis to my degree of severity; and tho I was grateful to get past that 35 age, for the last 13-14 years I have been in worsening pain all over, first in joints and then in all muscles, some difficulty breathing, 10-15 specialists (including my surgeon in NYU Medical Center, 20 years after the surgery) saying they didn't know what was wrong; also some hormone level problems and the results of that, including weight loss being impossible. I've been researching everything I can for the last 7 years in extremely complex scientific research formats and in two languages. I come from a Yale family, my aunt runs a biogenetics lab and is on the Genome Board (and is a REALLY super-nice person) and I also have a good new (to me) older doctor who moved in to the area who is also a clergywoman in my religion (Eckankar) so I've had some people on my side, but I was still asking questions that were hearing the words " I don't know " from even them. It's been a looooooooong process of learning one biochemical process and it's affected by this other one and the path has been a really long and winding one. Last week I found that collagen supplementation in the liquid (complete) form had been the answer. Scoliosis has collagen problems associated with it, and once I and my daughter (who has very mild scoliosis, found after 14yo) started taking spoonfuls of Amino-Sculpt, soooo many problems are disappearing I'm really in shock. The all-over, every-time I move pain is gone most all the way, that muscle pain is diminished a LOT, the joint pain's still there a little bit but heck I've only been taking it for a week and the pain's been there for years. It also suppresses hormones progesterone (which was directly responsible for weight gain when my doctor put me on it for low levels but found I have a high reactivity of it, the hard way) and also estradiol. My pain level during my period is MUCH less now (it was horrible all of my teenage years, including when it started when I still had my cast on after surgery, my parents felt so bad for me). Weight loss should be possible now, I'm seeing some progress but have also been sick so I won't know all the results for a while yet. There is also another HUGE thing that did help me in the past, which the collagen is now completely fixing, which is cranio-sacral adjustments (info: www.upledger. com ) I had a family friend turn out to be a practitioner of a VERY light touch on the head to align the bones of the skull very slightly so they have a profound impact on the rest of the whole cranio-sacral system, a fluid that surrounds the brain and spinal cord, and would fix my hip pain and its limited mobility, and also help my double vision (I'd had surgery for that when I was 5yo) as well as straighten teeth, it's all physically connected, there's no magic to it, completely physically scientific. The problem was the adjustments wouldn't last for more than a few weeks. Now, with the collagen, the skull bone plates in my head went from needing adjustment (spaces in some places, overlapped ridges in other places, you can feel it just by touching the head) to totally adjusted, even my teeth straightened after I took the first dose (dentists tried to offer my daughter braces for TMJ cuz her teeth weren't meeting, I touched her on the head to adjust her and they straightened, the dentist had tried to tell me that " chiropractic " adjustments couldn't work, I corrected him that I had said " cranio- sacral " and explained it to him, looked him straight in the eye and kept talking like a scientist like I've had to do with a few doctors who were emotionally- based... IMHO any dentist should be required to study it). Also my daughter's knee problem's gone after years, she's a happy person able to go up and down hills without pain. (I wonder why the orthopedist group wouldn't start with collagen and not with physical therapy, which she declined) Mainly she's happy to the point of tears that her mom's going to finally be OK. Maybe this will help someone out there to know. After years of work, I figured I'd better put it out there, in case someone else is struggling. Probably the last piece of the puzzle will be to connect the cause of scoliosis (proven to be a parasite in many other animals) to something that degrades collagen. We may be seeing the problem more and more since sugar is a substance that does deteriorate collagen. I thought I hated Jello from being force-fed it in the hospital, but I can make it my best friend if it'll help keep my collagen in line. It's probably the only way sugar should be ingested for anyone with scoliosis. So, some of us scientifically stubborn Aquarian kids grow up from being in traction at NYU Medical Center to teaching their own doctors what they hadn't known after years of work Mostly I'm glad I'm finally out of pain, and feel rather unemployed now I'll need to find a new hobby besides researching day & night Maybe stamp collecting.. ... -Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hmmm, I am not sure what to make of that. I would need some scientific data to back up all that she claims. I'm not totally buying the parasite theory either as I know new research is showing that there is a genetic link to scoli. What are other people responding to this? Is this on the NSF board? Noelle (12-2-01) Ian (8-15-04) What do you make of this info I copied this off another site and wanted to see what you guys made of it if your not on the other site... ...New here, had surgery at 11, grown up now and research finally payin Posted by: " Alison " planet2334@... planet2334 Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:41 am (PST) Hi, my name's Alison, I live in New York State, I was the first in my school to be detected with scoliosis when the screenings at the schools started by state law back in 1978. The nurses gathered 'round and whispered to each other, I learned later that I had a 78 degree curve at 11 years old, my parents were told without surgery I would be in a wheelchair by the age of 14, and research I did in my 20's showed that only 10 years earlier people with my level of severity to my curve had not been living much past the age of 35. I'm 40 now, I have a great 19 year old daughter who fortunately did not have scoliosis to my degree of severity; and tho I was grateful to get past that 35 age, for the last 13-14 years I have been in worsening pain all over, first in joints and then in all muscles, some difficulty breathing, 10-15 specialists (including my surgeon in NYU Medical Center, 20 years after the surgery) saying they didn't know what was wrong; also some hormone level problems and the results of that, including weight loss being impossible. I've been researching everything I can for the last 7 years in extremely complex scientific research formats and in two languages. I come from a Yale family, my aunt runs a biogenetics lab and is on the Genome Board (and is a REALLY super-nice person) and I also have a good new (to me) older doctor who moved in to the area who is also a clergywoman in my religion (Eckankar) so I've had some people on my side, but I was still asking questions that were hearing the words " I don't know " from even them. It's been a looooooooong process of learning one biochemical process and it's affected by this other one and the path has been a really long and winding one. Last week I found that collagen supplementation in the liquid (complete) form had been the answer. Scoliosis has collagen problems associated with it, and once I and my daughter (who has very mild scoliosis, found after 14yo) started taking spoonfuls of Amino-Sculpt, soooo many problems are disappearing I'm really in shock. The all-over, every-time I move pain is gone most all the way, that muscle pain is diminished a LOT, the joint pain's still there a little bit but heck I've only been taking it for a week and the pain's been there for years. It also suppresses hormones progesterone (which was directly responsible for weight gain when my doctor put me on it for low levels but found I have a high reactivity of it, the hard way) and also estradiol. My pain level during my period is MUCH less now (it was horrible all of my teenage years, including when it started when I still had my cast on after surgery, my parents felt so bad for me). Weight loss should be possible now, I'm seeing some progress but have also been sick so I won't know all the results for a while yet. There is also another HUGE thing that did help me in the past, which the collagen is now completely fixing, which is cranio-sacral adjustments (info: www.upledger. com ) I had a family friend turn out to be a practitioner of a VERY light touch on the head to align the bones of the skull very slightly so they have a profound impact on the rest of the whole cranio-sacral system, a fluid that surrounds the brain and spinal cord, and would fix my hip pain and its limited mobility, and also help my double vision (I'd had surgery for that when I was 5yo) as well as straighten teeth, it's all physically connected, there's no magic to it, completely physically scientific. The problem was the adjustments wouldn't last for more than a few weeks. Now, with the collagen, the skull bone plates in my head went from needing adjustment (spaces in some places, overlapped ridges in other places, you can feel it just by touching the head) to totally adjusted, even my teeth straightened after I took the first dose (dentists tried to offer my daughter braces for TMJ cuz her teeth weren't meeting, I touched her on the head to adjust her and they straightened, the dentist had tried to tell me that " chiropractic " adjustments couldn't work, I corrected him that I had said " cranio- sacral " and explained it to him, looked him straight in the eye and kept talking like a scientist like I've had to do with a few doctors who were emotionally- based... IMHO any dentist should be required to study it). Also my daughter's knee problem's gone after years, she's a happy person able to go up and down hills without pain. (I wonder why the orthopedist group wouldn't start with collagen and not with physical therapy, which she declined) Mainly she's happy to the point of tears that her mom's going to finally be OK. Maybe this will help someone out there to know. After years of work, I figured I'd better put it out there, in case someone else is struggling. Probably the last piece of the puzzle will be to connect the cause of scoliosis (proven to be a parasite in many other animals) to something that degrades collagen. We may be seeing the problem more and more since sugar is a substance that does deteriorate collagen. I thought I hated Jello from being force-fed it in the hospital, but I can make it my best friend if it'll help keep my collagen in line. It's probably the only way sugar should be ingested for anyone with scoliosis. So, some of us scientifically stubborn Aquarian kids grow up from being in traction at NYU Medical Center to teaching their own doctors what they hadn't known after years of work Mostly I'm glad I'm finally out of pain, and feel rather unemployed now I'll need to find a new hobby besides researching day & night Maybe stamp collecting.. ... -Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'd have to read the data, too. I also believe infantile scoliosis is a whole other breed, if you will - and there are still so many variations just amongst those who have infantile (congenital versus idiopathic, for one). It's great that they've found something is working for them. My primary care doc recommended a homeopathic remedy for it and we just never tried it. I don't put a TON of weight in things like that for major system issues like this. (However, homeopathics have worked for us in teething and skin problems.) Total sidetrack. Sorry. Interesting, though. Just seems " off " to me, kwim? S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 It was on the infantile -juvi board I have not read the responces yet but I will keep you posted... -- - In infantile_scoliosis , " Claflin " wrote: > > Hmmm, I am not sure what to make of that. I would need some scientific data to back up all that she claims. I'm not totally buying the parasite theory either as I know new research is showing that there is a genetic link to scoli. What are other people responding to this? Is this on the NSF board? > > > Noelle (12-2-01) > Ian (8-15-04) > What do you make of this info > > > I copied this off another site and wanted to see what you guys made > of it if your not on the other site... > > ...New here, had surgery at 11, grown up now and research finally > payin > Posted by: " Alison " planet2334@... planet2334 > Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:41 am (PST) > Hi, my name's Alison, I live in New York State, I was the first in my > school to be detected with scoliosis when the screenings at the > schools started by state law back in 1978. The nurses gathered 'round > and whispered to each other, I learned later that I had a 78 degree > curve at 11 years old, my parents were told without surgery I would > be in a wheelchair by the age of 14, and research I did in my 20's > showed that only 10 years earlier people with my level of severity to > my curve had not been living much past the age of 35. > > I'm 40 now, I have a great 19 year old daughter who fortunately did > not have scoliosis to my degree of severity; and tho I was grateful > to get past that 35 age, for the last 13-14 years I have been in > worsening pain all over, first in joints and then in all muscles, > some difficulty breathing, 10-15 specialists (including my surgeon in > NYU Medical Center, 20 years after the surgery) saying they didn't > know what was wrong; also some hormone level problems and the results > of that, including weight loss being impossible. > > I've been researching everything I can for the last 7 years in > extremely complex scientific research formats and in two languages. I > come from a Yale family, my aunt runs a biogenetics lab and is on the > Genome Board (and is a REALLY super-nice person) and I also have a > good new (to me) older doctor who moved in to the area who is also a > clergywoman in my religion (Eckankar) so I've had some people on my > side, but I was still asking questions that were hearing the words " I > don't know " from even them. > > It's been a looooooooong process of learning one biochemical process > and it's affected by this other one and the path has been a really > long and winding one. > > Last week I found that collagen supplementation in the liquid > (complete) form had been the answer. > > Scoliosis has collagen problems associated with it, and once I and my > daughter (who has very mild scoliosis, found after 14yo) started > taking spoonfuls of Amino-Sculpt, soooo many problems are > disappearing I'm really in shock. The all-over, every-time I move > pain is gone most all the way, that muscle pain is diminished a LOT, > the joint pain's still there a little bit but heck I've only been > taking it for a week and the pain's been there for years. > > It also suppresses hormones progesterone (which was directly > responsible for weight gain when my doctor put me on it for low > levels but found I have a high reactivity of it, the hard way) and > also estradiol. My pain level during my period is MUCH less now (it > was horrible all of my teenage years, including when it started when > I still had my cast on after surgery, my parents felt so bad for me). > Weight loss should be possible now, I'm seeing some progress but have > also been sick so I won't know all the results for a while yet. > > There is also another HUGE thing that did help me in the past, which > the collagen is now completely fixing, which is cranio-sacral > adjustments (info: www.upledger. com ) I had a family friend turn out > to be a practitioner of a VERY light touch on the head to align the > bones of the skull very slightly so they have a profound impact on > the rest of the whole cranio-sacral system, a fluid that surrounds > the brain and spinal cord, and would fix my hip pain and its limited > mobility, and also help my double vision (I'd had surgery for that > when I was 5yo) as well as straighten teeth, it's all physically > connected, there's no magic to it, completely physically scientific. > The problem was the adjustments wouldn't last for more than a few > weeks. > > Now, with the collagen, the skull bone plates in my head went from > needing adjustment (spaces in some places, overlapped ridges in other > places, you can feel it just by touching the head) to totally > adjusted, even my teeth straightened after I took the first dose > (dentists tried to offer my daughter braces for TMJ cuz her teeth > weren't meeting, I touched her on the head to adjust her and they > straightened, the dentist had tried to tell me that " chiropractic " > adjustments couldn't work, I corrected him that I had said " cranio- > sacral " and explained it to him, looked him straight in the eye and > kept talking like a scientist like I've had to do with a few doctors > who were emotionally- based... IMHO any dentist should be required to > study it). Also my daughter's knee problem's gone after years, she's > a happy person able to go up and down hills without pain. (I wonder > why the orthopedist group wouldn't start with collagen and not with > physical therapy, which she declined) Mainly she's happy to the point > of tears that her mom's going to finally be OK. > > Maybe this will help someone out there to know. After years of work, > I figured I'd better put it out there, in case someone else is > struggling. Probably the last piece of the puzzle will be to connect > the cause of scoliosis (proven to be a parasite in many other > animals) to something that degrades collagen. We may be seeing the > problem more and more since sugar is a substance that does > deteriorate collagen. I thought I hated Jello from being force- fed it > in the hospital, but I can make it my best friend if it'll help keep > my collagen in line. It's probably the only way sugar should be > ingested for anyone with scoliosis. > > So, some of us scientifically stubborn Aquarian kids grow up from > being in traction at NYU Medical Center to teaching their own doctors > what they hadn't known after years of work Mostly I'm glad I'm > finally out of pain, and feel rather unemployed now I'll need to > find a new hobby besides researching day & night > > Maybe stamp collecting.. ... > > > -Alison > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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