RE: Eyes

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Has an ophthalmologist looked at his cornea with a slit-lamp to check for

foreign bodies and injury? These are some articles on the exam and about

corneal injury:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003880.htm

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001017.htm

If he has only complained of this to the surgeon who performed the shoulder

surgery, or to an internist who might be doing some general follow-up care,

they would not be competent to evaluate injury to his eye.

Carol

At 06:25 PM 02/13/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>A friend of mine had surgery on his shoulder last week that lasted five

>hours and during the operation, I don't know the reason why, they taped his

>eyelids shut. Well, one of his eyes wasn't closed when they taped it and so

>for five hours his eye was taped open. Now he going crazy! He can't see

>out of that eye, it's in pain and it's got all kinds of junk stuck on it and

>it feels rough when he blinks his eyes. He thinks he will never see right

>with it again. Right now, he's pretty blind in one eye. Any suggestions.

>I have Dr. Shultzes Eyebright Tincture I could give him. Shouldn't he try

>to clean/flush his eyeball somehow. Would the loss of eyesight be from his

>eye becoming dehydrated from being held open for so long? How could he

>rehydrate his eyeball? Thanks for all your ideas. Rose

>

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> I have Dr. Shultzes Eyebright Tincture I could give him. Shouldn't he

try

> to clean/flush his eyeball somehow. Would the loss of eyesight be

from his

> eye becoming dehydrated from being held open for so long? How could

he

> rehydrate his eyeball? Thanks for all your ideas. Rose

Rose,

If it were my eyes in this condition the first thing I would do is spray

very frequently with Willard Water. I would alternate this with a

solution of MSM----I haven't yet tried diluting MSM IN the Willard

Water---that is a future experiment. I would also take MSM internally

for awhile. If someone has never taken this, then a starting dose would

be 1/4 tsp in water, twice a day, adding another 1/4 tsp every few days.

As I mentioned here before I use MSM dissolved in colloidal silver as an

eye/nose spray for a fungal infection. If your friend's eye is infected

this could be a good solution for him.

However, if this protocol or any other " homemade " one did not show

results in a few days, I would hie me off to an eye doctor!

Another thought---age old remedy for irritated eyes is rose water.

Drugstores used to stock this, don't know if it's still available there.

Having used eyebright tincture in the past, I would be a bit reluctant

to start with that unless very diluted. It might really irritate the

existing condition, even though the ultimate result would probably be

beneficial. Oh heck, I guess I'd put a tiny bit of it in Willard Water

after using the WW straight for the first day or so.

Hope he gets this healed!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Rosemarie,

Sharon & Carol both gave excellent advice. But, if the person with the

problem hasn't yet gone to an opthalmologist, then, for some reason,

they don't feel that is necessary. They may be right -- or wrong! And,

if wrong, they won't like the consequences. So, at minimum, if the

problem has lasted more than a few days, then they must see a

professional!

In the meantime, a dilute Schulze eyebright solution, say 2 drops/oz;

willard water; both; CS water; all of them/any combo. Schulze's

eyebright will get oxygen to microcapillaries (the cayenne), willard

water will help hydrate better than anything else & CS is antiseptic. Do

NOT use any eye solution that " gets the red out " because they cause a

violent contraction of blood vessels which can cause rupture if occular

pressure is high. A saline solution, if nothing else, may give some

relief without irritating, if irrigation helps. A pinch of sea salt to a

glass of water.

These are all ideas from people who don't know enough about the

situation but are giving good general information. BUT, if this person

had an eye taped open for a protracted time, and we obviously don't know

how dangerous that is, shouldn't they have called someone a long time

ago? Really??? When you say they are going crazy, what did their doctor

say to that? Doctors do have their place, their areas of excellence. I

might not listen to their advice, but I would never go without their

opinion!

jim

Rosemarie Geiger wrote:

>

> A friend of mine had surgery on his shoulder last week that lasted five

> hours and during the operation, I don't know the reason why, they taped his

> eyelids shut. Well, one of his eyes wasn't closed when they taped it and so

> for five hours his eye was taped open. Now he going crazy! He can't see

> out of that eye, it's in pain and it's got all kinds of junk stuck on it and

> it feels rough when he blinks his eyes. He thinks he will never see right

> with it again. Right now, he's pretty blind in one eye. Any suggestions.

> I have Dr. Shultzes Eyebright Tincture I could give him. Shouldn't he try

> to clean/flush his eyeball somehow. Would the loss of eyesight be from his

> eye becoming dehydrated from being held open for so long? How could he

> rehydrate his eyeball? Thanks for all your ideas. Rose

>

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[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon

........As I mentioned here before I use MSM dissolved in colloidal silver as an

eye/nose spray for a fungal infection. .....

************

Would MSM dissolved in CS be an appropriate solution in a nebulizer for a 7 year

old who has been exposed to mold and has been experiencing long term coughing?

Would this solution be better than H202 & CS? If so, what ratio should I use?

Thanks,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

It seems like a lot of people recover from eye trauma given time and rest.

A friend of mine got smacked in the eye with a flying bungee cord though and

has lost her sight in it despite several operations. Maybe it could have

been saved with some holistic techniques.

Was there a post on this list about someone who had superior " glycos " than

Mannatech? It would probably take me quite awhile to find the post.

J.

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

BUT, if this person had an eye taped open for a protracted time, and we

obviously don't know

dangerous that is, shouldn't they have called someone a long time

ago? Really??? When you say they are going crazy, what did their doctor

say to that? Doctors do have their place, their areas of excellence. I

might not listen to their advice, but I would never go without their

opinion!

jim

------------

I agree with Jim here. The first thing to do would be to call the Doctor who

did the surgery and ask what the proper proceedure is for something like this.

I assume they tape the eyes so that the eye does not dry out or get filled with

debre from lack of blinking. But over exposure to surgery lights could be an

issue too and could be a serious issue. I would get professional help on this

one.

Donna

[Guest guest]

J

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Kallie

copied & pasted

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RE: Eyes

It seems like a lot of people recover from eye trauma given time and rest.

A friend of mine got smacked in the eye with a flying bungee cord though and

has lost her sight in it despite several operations. Maybe it could have

been saved with some holistic techniques.

Was there a post on this list about someone who had superior " glycos " than

Mannatech? It would probably take me quite awhile to find the post.

J.

[Guest guest]

> ************

> Would MSM dissolved in CS be an appropriate solution in a nebulizer

for a 7 year old who has been exposed to mold and has been experiencing

long term coughing? Would this solution be better than H202 & CS? If

so, what ratio should I use?

Deanna,

Probably no question about it's being " appropriate " , but whether it's

" best " I don't know.

For myself, if I had the same situation, I would choose the MSM without

question because of it's effects on " cellular respiration " . I have never

used a nebulizer so I'm really not sure how it would work in this

protocol.

I would also 'intuit' that MSM might be more beneficial in this case

than H2O2 simply because it should be a little lower in pH than the

peroxide. I'm inclined in this direction simply because so many

respiratory problems are worsened when the environment of the lungs

becomes too alkaline, asthma being the best example.

Oh, brainstorm taking place! Just remembered the site where I first

picked up this MSM/CS info:

http://www.colloidalsilversolutions.com/

He has a section on nebulizing on this site, suggest you browse around

it.

Good luck with this!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

My friend did go to an eye doctor before I was even able to talk to him

again and tell him everyones suggestions. They gave him drops for his eye.

He wouldn't use them because he said they burned so bad when he tried them

the first time and didn't seem to help. I sent him to the health food store

after some Willard Water and Colloidal Silver. He's been using both, as

suggested and is doing much better now and says his vision is getting better

and he's much more comfortable than the other day. Thank you all for your

help. At least he is one who is willing to listen and try something

different. I gave him ozonated olive oil for his hemroids last year and

made a believer out of him. That's why he called me in the first place with

the eye thing. Thanks again. Rose

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>To: <oxyplus >

>Subject: Re: Eyes

>Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:55:47 -0800

>

>----- Original Message -----

> BUT, if this person had an eye taped open for a protracted time, and we

>obviously don't know

> dangerous that is, shouldn't they have called someone a long time

>ago? Really??? When you say they are going crazy, what did their doctor

>say to that? Doctors do have their place, their areas of excellence. I

>might not listen to their advice, but I would never go without their

>opinion!

>

>jim

>------------

>

>I agree with Jim here. The first thing to do would be to call the Doctor

>who did the surgery and ask what the proper proceedure is for something

>like this. I assume they tape the eyes so that the eye does not dry out or

>get filled with debre from lack of blinking. But over exposure to surgery

>lights could be an issue too and could be a serious issue. I would get

>professional help on this one.

>

>Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Eyes

A friend of mine had surgery on his shoulder last week that lasted five

hours and during the operation, I don't know the reason why, they taped his

eyelids shut. Well, one of his eyes wasn't closed when they taped it and so

for five hours his eye was taped open. Now he going crazy! He can't see

out of that eye, it's in pain and it's got all kinds of junk stuck on it and

it feels rough when he blinks his eyes. He thinks he will never see right

with it again. Right now, he's pretty blind in one eye. Any suggestions.

I have Dr. Shultzes Eyebright Tincture I could give him. Shouldn't he try

to clean/flush his eyeball somehow. Would the loss of eyesight be from his

eye becoming dehydrated from being held open for so long? How could he

rehydrate his eyeball? Thanks for all your ideas. Rose

_________________________________________________________________

MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:

http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

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