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Hi ,

I thought I would take a look at your profile - hmmmmm, no profile on AOL?

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With all due respect, one of the things I have gained besides the comraderie,

is the motivation to read, research and become more knowlegeable. Because of

this, I recently found

some scientific evidence regarding flax seed oil that has helped to reduce

the eyelid retraction, and swelling after one year and no answers from any

doctor including those at the Mayo clinic, which I contacted directly.

I would not have had the emotional support that this group gives especially

during the early stages of this disease, when no one in my family could

really relate to what I was going through. I have learned a great deal from

many people who post and who have been down the road and because they have

shared some of their negative experiences, I did not have to go down that

same road. I was forewarned.

I enjoy this group although it may be months between the times that I have

something to contribute. So, my experience is that I am glad that

started this group, whether or not we have a cure.

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Hello,

Remember things are only impossible until they are possible!

biomcs@... wrote:

I have been reading this message board since it's inception. had come on the hypo and hyper boards claiming he had a cure for hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism. It is very obvious to me that he has a cure for neither. Now he tells everyone to experiment with his supplements. Good Health practices are not experimenting with substances which may or may not help or harm you. Wake up group, is no closer to solving this riddle than he was a year ago. In fact, he is continually changing his supplement list as well as adding a disclaimer. is obviously not cured. After reading all these posts it is pretty clear to me that the man has plenty of health issues. If one person stops and wonders about why they are spending so much on supplements when there is no need to. What have any of you actually accomplished through this board?

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Pilgrim:

I can relate to your medical sauga. I am wondering though if you can tell me

what the symptoms of diverticulitis are? Also, is there a correlation between

diverticulitis and hyper thyroid?

Thank you :>)

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Hello !

My former herb lady had a habit of saying: Different strokes for different

folks. In other words, what seems to work for one person may not work for

another. And if you haven't tried it, don't knock it.

I KNOW herbs and supplements work because I use them in my daily life and have

for over 20 years. I would likely be dead now if I hadn't found them when I

did. Before I found an alternative way to health, I had been seriously ill, was

hospitalized for almost seven weeks, held in the grasp of doctors and their

chemicals for the next seven years. I was hospitalized again several times with

repeat of the original problem, and could expect to be hospitalized at least

three if not four times every year for those seven years with something the

doctors never gave me any clue as to why. When I poured my prescription drugs

down the toilet and changed my life with diet and supplementation, I started to

get well. And I read everything I could get my hands on. I learned the

reoccurring bouts in the hospital was caused by colitis - which in turn was

caused by one

of the drugs I was on. Yet, no one even bothered to tell me or educate me in

how to prevent it. I learned how to prevent it and except when a bout of

diverticulitis hospitalized me about 10 years later - had not been back in the

hospital or darkened the doorway of a doctor's office for those 20 years. That

is, until this thyroid disease caught up with me. And because I was in error

thinking I was hypothyroid [my symptoms fit it better than it did hyperT] I was

'supporting' my thyroid instead of 'suppressing' it. Therefore, much of what

happened was my fault because I had hyperT. I was hospitalized for A-fib.

Those are the only two times I've been hospitalized in the subsequent 20 years

since I first learned about supplementing my diet with herbs and nutrients.

I am a long way from being 'well' at the moment, but would hate to think how

unwell I would be if I didn't do what I do do for my health. I will likely have

this problem for a long time to come and intend to eventually get off these

medications and rely solely on nutrition to keep me well.

Hope that is a 'successful' enough story to encourage you to continue with diet

and supplements in your journey towards better health.

pilgrim

biomcs@... wrote:

> I have been reading this message board since it's inception. had come on

the hypo and hyper boards claiming he had a cure for hypothyroidism and

hyperthyroidism. It is very obvious to me that he has a cure for neither. Now

he tells everyone to experiment with his supplements. Good Health practices are

not experimenting with substances which may or may not help or harm you. Wake

up group, is no closer to solving this riddle than he was a year ago. In

fact, he is continually changing his supplement list as well as adding a

disclaimer. is obviously not cured. After reading all these posts it is

pretty clear to me that the man has plenty of health issues. If one person

stops and wonders about why they are spending so much on supplements when there

is no need to. What have any of you actually accomplished through this board?

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Hello !

My saga?? Well, that's the first time it's been called that!!!!! lol

Symptoms of diverticulitis are quite similar to those of colitis. Distended,

tender gut, terrible pain [although I've learned some don't have pain! Really!]

and not quite as much pain as diverticulitis. Not as much nausea. Bowels are

not in spasm, as with colitis. Fever, maybe, if it's gone on long enough.

Basically, the symptoms are similar to those of appendicitis. It is usually

caused by raw foods, nuts, small seeds - at least for me. While I can eat these

things, I know better than to eat too much over a period of a couple or three

days. About the only way for me to recover, if I am in a full bout, is to bed

rest with lots of fluids and no solid foods.

I DO NOT recommend THIS to forestall a bout, though. This is what *I* do. If I

feel an episode coming on, and if I get it early enough, just simply going to

bed

and practicing relaxation techniques will do it - OR I take a large glass of red

fortified [cheap] wine and head to bed if it already has a toe hold. Only bad

thing with wine. It really isn't pleasant when it comes up! lol Now, I tell

you all of that with a caveat: I DO NOT drink.

If I had known these facts many years ago, I could have saved myself a lot of

pain, suffering, hospital stays and $$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!

pilgrim

wick@... wrote:

> Pilgrim:

>

> I can relate to your medical sauga. I am wondering though if you can tell me

> what the symptoms of diverticulitis are? Also, is there a correlation between

> diverticulitis and hyper thyroid?

>

> Thank you :>)

>

>

>

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I totally agree with Lee's previous post.

The benefits in this group --- of support, knowledge, insight, discovery and

much, much more --- have been INDISPENSIBLE to my recovery and current

" healthy " state.

Lighten up!!!!!!!!

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Hi,

Anyone wanting to know either 's or Gail's views on this company, please

backchannel. Now, let's stop this discussion; it turned into overkill long ago!

Your friendly dictator,

Chrisite

Schweitzer wrote:

> From: Schweitzer <schweit2@...>

>

> I think it has alreaedy been well-established that Gail Kansky and the

> National CFIDS Forum are against Ampligen, so let's just assume that

> anything I say, Gail will have a negative response to. Okay?

>

> Now, I am prejudiced. Ampligen has changed my life for the good, and I

> believe that this is such a hellish disease, that if it helps ANYBODY,

> we ought to be open to making it available for as many of us as

> possible, and let the PATIENTS CHOOSE.

>

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In a message dated 5/25/03 11:08:46 PM, butchcs1@... writes:

> Hey, is it just me or does like to get things heated up

> before National Convention? I do remember that when my wife, who was

> president when was on board bucked heads with her as well as

> other people. And NO before you ask, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE BOARD

> ROOM, OR BEEN ON THE BOARD but I read a lot on the list and even heard

> phone conversation that you've had with my wife to the point on when I

> have to somewhat put you in your place.

>

Butch, you really amaze me, the incident just happended two weeks ago!

You as an Afro American should be the last one to be upset by my situation.

If you were running for office and signs were posted in your neighborhood

that said " Lynch the N---- " I would support your efforts to defend your rights

and so would the local NAACP.

Let's face it Butch, you can't sanitize this issue based on your personal

feelings towards me.

We would all support you too.

As for your other charges, they aren't worth a response.

Democracy however is a painful process and people who don't fight for their

beliefs or debate in board rooms have other countries they can live in. One of

them we just flattened.

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I think all of you (you know who you are) need to take about a week

long break from the listserve and go out and get some fresh air!!!

Go on a vacation!!!! R-E-L-A-X

The only thing I have seen accomplished from the

whole m-thing was people bashing tony and tony bashing people!

WELL that was productive! WHAT did that

accomplish????????

I don't care if the people running things are male or female, achon

or not, what I care is that this bickering ends!!!!!!!!!!!! I

think I and others want to see posts about progress, not who did

what to who or said what to who. If its personal between 2 people

then do it in private.

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You have a good idea...neutral corners woudl be appropriate at thsi point.

Bashing is the result of at least one strong willed person refusing to let go

(in this case probably more). There is a lot of room for diversity and

disagreement in politics and there are cases where the two will never come

together,

no matter how good the intentions or ideal that would be. LET GO and move on

and quit acting like the politicians we purport to abhore.

Apryl

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It never ceases to amaze me that if you are not the one being discriminated

against or being called names it's someone's else's problem.

Also it amazes me when I see people looking, staring or laughing at me and

they are being looked at also because they may be overly heavy etc. I guess it

true $#@% rolls down hill.

Irwin

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In a message dated 5/27/03 9:54:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

littlemagicman@... writes:

> It never ceases to amaze me that if you are not the one being discriminated

> against or being called names it's someone's else's problem.

>

> Also it amazes me when I see people looking, staring or laughing at me and

> they are being looked at also because they may be overly heavy etc. I guess

> it

> true $#@% rolls down hill.

> Irwin

>

>

>

> I have to come to the defense of others who get made fun of. I don't think

> its right.

Like I said before I have learned to say (when I feel like it) I sign

autographs between such and such a time. I have walked with my head up high,

smile

and make eye to eye contact and shake my Venezuelan booty at them.

What amazes me is when one is out and this child (who I believe was

interested in why I was short) kept asking the adult with him " Why I was short? "

The

woman didn't say anything which to me after asking more than once she should

have said something. Maybe I should have said to her " Inquiring minds want to

know why, " but didn't. lol

Helen

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>I guess it true $#@% rolls down hill.

>Irwin

Remember this one too:

$#@% rolls down hill, but farts travel up.

So either way, everyone-tall and small, gets it.

luv, grady

PS-I couldn't resist responding to this post:P.

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> It never ceases to amaze me that if you are not the one being

discriminated

> against or being called names it's someone's else's problem.

Okay ... I have written this e-mail five times in the past few days, and

always canceled it because I didn't want to jupm into the fray. I'm going to

send it this time.

I like the way Bill Bradford put it a few days ago ...

BEGINNING OF QUOTED POST:

> If this sign was posted on Matt's Farm or Bills Apartment Door what would

> they do?

Probably stick up for myself, and not whine, bitch and moan when every

single LP on the planet doesn't 100%, without thought, support every single

thing I do or say.

END OF QUOTED POST

Everyone is screaming, " ENOUGH! " You know what I've had enough of?

I've had enough of blanket statements being made along the lines of " join my

political cause du jour, and if you don't, I will jump up and down and

scream about how you must not care about the rights of the disabled, the

rights of LPs, or anything else. "

I've had enough of the hypocrisy. You all are screaming about the word

" midget " now ... where were you when my girlfriend's son was sent an

animation that plays " kick the can with the midget in it " for laughs. Oh,

that's right, you were telling me to get a thick skin and a sense of humor.

Oddly enough, some of you are the same ones screaming now. Oddly enough,

some of you are the ones who want to dance around a bonfire fueled by

certain t-shirts we know.

Matt pointed out something interesting. We are wasting infinite amounts of

time screaming about a dirty trick played in the waning hours before an

election that has already taken place, and we are so caught up in that, we

are ignoring pending legislation that will affect us for years to come.

Where is the outrage for that? Where is the outrage for the government

official who is forcing a woman to get an abortion? Regardless of your

position on the abortion issue, doesn't it concern anyone that this

precedent has been set?

How many of you who scream for everyone to get involved in your cause will

mumble excuses and walk away when you are presented with an opportunity to

volunteer your time, your gifts, your talents, for the benefit of LPA?

If you want such an opportunity, by the way, my mother is the registration

coordinator for the Boston conference. She is looking for people to

volunteer their time, in 2-hour blocks, at the registration table. E-mail me

if you're interested, and I'll pass the information on to her.

Dybala

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From: Spiriteacher (@MySpace)

Thanks Jerry!!

Recently I overheard a mother and daughter in their last moments

together at the airport. They had announced the departure.

Standing near the security gate, they hugged and the mother said, " I

love you and I wish you enough " .

The daughter replied, " Mom, our life together has been more than

enough.

Your love is all I ever needed. I wish you enough, too, Mom " .

They kissed and the daughter left. The mother walked over to the

window

where I was seated. Standing there I could see she wanted and needed

to

cry. I tried not to intrude on her privacy but she welcomed me in by

asking, " Did you ever say good-bye to someone knowing it would be

forever? " . Yes, I have, " I replied. " Forgive me for asking,

but why is this a forever good-bye? " .

" I am old and she lives so far away. I have

challenges ahead and the reality is - the next trip back will be

for my funeral, " she said.

" When you were saying good-bye, I heard you say, 'I wish you enough'.

May I ask what that means? " .

She began to smile. " That's a wish that has been handed down from

other

generations. My parents used to say it to everyone " . She paused a

moment

and looked up as if trying to remember it in detail and she smiled

even

more. " When we said , 'I wish you enough', we were wanting the other

person to have a life filled with just enough good things to sustain

them " .

Then turning toward me, she shared the following as if she were

reciting it

from memory.

I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude

bright no matter how gray the day may appear.

I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun even more.

I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive and

everlasting.

I wish you enough pain so that even the smallest of joys in life may

appear bigger.

I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.

I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.

I wish you enough hellos to get you through the final good-bye.

She then began to cry and walked away.

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to

appreciate them, a day to love them but then an entire life to forget

them.

* Only if you wish send this to the people you will never forget. If

you

don't send it to anyone it may mean that you are in such a hurry that

you have forgotten your friends .

TAKE TIME TO LIVE.....

To all my friends and loved ones,

I WISH YOU ENOUGH

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Dear ,

This a story that makes me think of my kin, the Sioux

Indians and I thank you for posting this...It is something I must say

is defiitely needed! Enough, some think, enough, that's it?! Yup,

enough...As you so eloquently shared with us from a friend to Us,

your family, enough IS enough! Namaste!! LUNA

>

> From: Spiriteacher (@MySpace)

> Thanks Jerry!!

>

> Recently I overheard a mother and daughter in their last moments

> together at the airport. They had announced the departure.

> Standing near the security gate, they hugged and the mother

said, " I

> love you and I wish you enough " .

> The daughter replied, " Mom, our life together has been more than

> enough.

> Your love is all I ever needed. I wish you enough, too, Mom " .

>

>

> They kissed and the daughter left. The mother walked over to the

> window

> where I was seated. Standing there I could see she wanted and

needed

> to

> cry. I tried not to intrude on her privacy but she welcomed me in

by

> asking, " Did you ever say good-bye to someone knowing it would be

> forever? " . Yes, I have, " I replied. " Forgive me for asking,

> but why is this a forever good-bye? " .

>

> " I am old and she lives so far away. I have

> challenges ahead and the reality is - the next trip back will be

> for my funeral, " she said.

>

> " When you were saying good-bye, I heard you say, 'I wish you

enough'.

> May I ask what that means? " .

>

> She began to smile. " That's a wish that has been handed down from

> other

> generations. My parents used to say it to everyone " . She paused a

> moment

> and looked up as if trying to remember it in detail and she smiled

> even

> more. " When we said , 'I wish you enough', we were wanting the

other

> person to have a life filled with just enough good things to

sustain

> them " .

>

>

> Then turning toward me, she shared the following as if she were

> reciting it

> from memory.

> I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude

> bright no matter how gray the day may appear.

> I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun even more.

> I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive and

> everlasting.

> I wish you enough pain so that even the smallest of joys in life

may

> appear bigger.

> I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.

> I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.

> I wish you enough hellos to get you through the final good-bye.

>

> She then began to cry and walked away.

> They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to

> appreciate them, a day to love them but then an entire life to

forget

> them.

>

>

> * Only if you wish send this to the people you will never forget.

If

> you

> don't send it to anyone it may mean that you are in such a hurry

that

> you have forgotten your friends .

>

> TAKE TIME TO LIVE.....

>

> To all my friends and loved ones,

> I WISH YOU ENOUGH

>

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From: J Moulden <drmoulden@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Please leave Dr. m

Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 9:50 AM

Well, Mercury is a problem, and partially related to causing autiism,

in some. However, it is only one part of the wistches brew that is

neither necessary noe sufficient, in and of itself, in all cases, to

be the prime mover in the process that ultimately results in autism-

spetcrum

You will see for your self in a few days if you wish to look.  **************no,

I will not see in a few days. Stop it. You're a predetaorof the worst kind.****

An interesting question one must ask is " why was autism around before

mecury was put in vaccines? Why ws autism around during the time of

Kanner - the man who first described autism?**Those are not interesting

questions because in fact we have no evidenceof autism being around prior to the

use of vaccines and by the timekanner put a name on it, vaccines were already in

use. **  Why does autims

sometimes occur in people who have not been vaccinated? ***Mother's amalgam

fillings, seafood, coal burning plants,mother's own toxicity.*****  Why does

autism-sprctrum occur in people who show no evidence at all of any

mercury toxicity or need of chelation? ***who are these people you speak

of?**Why do autitic shildren ahve

the same neurological deficits after vaccination as people with

specific learning disabilities and, in some caes, language delays and

sphasia without classic autims features? **clearly no two children are affected

the same and have varying traits of neurological damage. Have you ever actually

seen an autisticchild?*******Why do infnats who die of

sudden infant death show the neurologcial damage deatures that are

the same as autistic children do after vaccination**Hep B vaccine**** and why

has sudden

infant death been reported fo centuries before vaccination was even

commenced?  ***SID was not reported for centuries. Infant mortality rates

ininfants was higher in the past due to unclean conditions, disease, and

unsterile delivery conditions. Also exposure to extreme temperatures,

malnourishment, and improper bedding (slept with parents)***

I am here to learn..just like the rest of you.***great. I'll let you know where

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informative to

learn what people think, where they get their information from, how

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to support or refute our beliefs.

I do not know anything about mercury; I have never studied mercury.

So, I am interested in learning what people know and think about

autism and mercury.

;-)

 ****you did not stumble upon a group of bumbling hicks here, Doctor.You know,

the great thing about the internet is the anonymity. I may be a high school drop

out, or a research analyst. You just don't know. So, before you continueto treat

this group as if we could never comprehend what you know,rest assured this is

not our first day here. We are savvy, educated,driven, and aware of what you

are.******

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>

> > >

>

> > > I'd like to see him banned from our board. If he's now

got his

own

>

> > group, I think he should go. His posts are confusing because of

typos

>

> > and he is argumentaive and taking away from the main usual " flow

as we

>

> > know, go " on this board.

>

> > >

>

> > > Alison F.

>

> > >

>

> > > Anyone that wants to continue with his whatever he is and says

go to

>

> > his group. I think he needs to leave here. Doesn't contribute

anything

>

> > IMO but a lot of stress, which none of us can afford.

>

> > >

>

> > > Goodbye IMO. And with love, for crying outloud. Go in peace but

go.

>

> > We mostly prefer to talk about protocols here and some politics.

>

> > Mostly protocols.

>

> > >

>

> > > And I can't read his posts with all his unprofessional

typos. If

>

> > you're some big dr. surely you can afford a better system for

typing

>

> > your emails. Just go be fruitful and multiply elsewhere.

Pllleaase.

>

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I would like to read what M says. I would also like to read the

dialogue he has with other people as some things have been brought up

which I would not have thought of. His theory has given me lots to

speculate on and new direction in my own research.

You can push the delete button if you do not want to read the posts.

Best,

Maggie O'rourke schrieb:

> I usually don't do this.....but comments are below

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>

> From: J Moulden <drmoulden@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Please leave Dr. m

>

> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 9:50 AM

>

> Well, Mercury is a problem, and partially related to causing autiism,

> in some. However, it is only one part of the wistches brew that is

> neither necessary noe sufficient, in and of itself, in all cases, to

> be the prime mover in the process that ultimately results in autism-

> spetcrum

>

> You will see for your self in a few days if you wish to look.

**************no, I will not see in a few days. Stop it. You're a predetaorof

the worst kind.****

>

> An interesting question one must ask is " why was autism around before

> mecury was put in vaccines? Why ws autism around during the time of

> Kanner - the man who first described autism?**Those are not interesting

questions because in fact we have no evidenceof autism being around prior to the

use of vaccines and by the timekanner put a name on it, vaccines were already in

use. ** Why does autims

> sometimes occur in people who have not been vaccinated? ***Mother's amalgam

fillings, seafood, coal burning plants,mother's own toxicity.***** Why does

> autism-sprctrum occur in people who show no evidence at all of any

> mercury toxicity or need of chelation? ***who are these people you speak

of?**Why do autitic shildren ahve

> the same neurological deficits after vaccination as people with

> specific learning disabilities and, in some caes, language delays and

> sphasia without classic autims features? **clearly no two children are

affected the same and have varying traits of neurological damage. Have you ever

actually seen an autisticchild?*******Why do infnats who die of

> sudden infant death show the neurologcial damage deatures that are

> the same as autistic children do after vaccination**Hep B vaccine**** and why

has sudden

> infant death been reported fo centuries before vaccination was even

> commenced? ***SID was not reported for centuries. Infant mortality rates

ininfants was higher in the past due to unclean conditions, disease, and

unsterile delivery conditions. Also exposure to extreme temperatures,

malnourishment, and improper bedding (slept with parents)***

>

> I am here to learn..just like the rest of you.***great. I'll let you know

where you can send me a donation for the time I just took to educate you.*****

It is informative to

> learn what people think, where they get their information from, how

> they process that information, how we learn from each other, how open

> we are to consider we may be wrong (or right), and what we rely upon

> to support or refute our beliefs.

>

> I do not know anything about mercury; I have never studied mercury.

> So, I am interested in learning what people know and think about

> autism and mercury.

> ;-)

> ****you did not stumble upon a group of bumbling hicks here, Doctor.You know,

the great thing about the internet is the anonymity. I may be a high school drop

out, or a research analyst. You just don't know. So, before you continueto treat

this group as if we could never comprehend what you know,rest assured this is

not our first day here. We are savvy, educated,driven, and aware of what you

are.******

>

> Diagnostic & Treatment/Intervention Protocol ;-)

>

> www.BrainGuardMD.com and www.AMassNetwork.com

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> 1-705-498-6284

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>

>

> If you want us to establish vaccine damage for Sudden Infant death,

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> vaccine adverse reactions, follow the steps below as best you can as

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>

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> 2. We write a full report of how your neurological and vaccine

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> how of vaccine induced neurological and neurodevelopmental disorders.

> If the brain has recovered (or not) over the years we can answer this

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> - The option to sue for vaccine damages is your choice. We can take

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> 3. We next will request that you obtain blood work and a lifestyle

> questionnaire. In the United States, this can be done by HealthCheck

> USA. In Canada (or other Countries), we welcome speaking with the

> family physician or pediatrician that has vaccinated your child. We

> also welcome showing these Doctors how they have harmed your child.

> We also welcome speaking to your vaccinating Doctors Medical

> Malpractice Association insurance provider directly, on your behalf.

> At the very least, we will request that the vaccinating Doctor issue

> a formal letter of apology and admission of responsibility for what

> they have done and request how the information we share in your case

> will change their medical practices.

>

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> treatment ? this is

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> Unless we help fix the health problem?you owe us nothing.

> Payment is by donation (what you can) to our non-profit only AFTER

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> actually FIX the problem.

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> 6. Our solutions are all natural & individually tailored to the

> bloodwork of the client ? we need to fix the liver so your body can

> fix itself ? from the bone marrow, to the immune system, to the blood

> supply, to the " properties " of the blood, and ultimately

> the " disconnected brain " and other organs.

>

> 7. We have no medicine. We make no claims. We sell no treatments. The

> State should have no say in what you choose to consume or eat anymore

> than it has the right to force you to vaccinate your children and

> your loved ones. Your participation is entirely voluntary.

>

> 8. We use the blood work and the BrainGuardMD neuroimaging to

> prove/chart neurologcial recovery. You verify this with your own

> observations and behavioral checklists we will provide. We will show

> you the results we see (in the BrainGuard imaging and the bloodwork).

>

> 9. After our treatment (2 to 4 months), Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy may

> be useful to maximize the recovery achieved. Rate of improvement is a

> function of age and hepatic health.

>

> 10. We can see patients on a case by case basis (by request).

>

> 11. We can establish that a vaccine rather than " shaken baby syndrome

> has caused harm to infants/children.

>

> 12. We are also interested in helping you and your Doctor eradicate

> all strains of HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) in three days (pap smear

> to pap smear) rather than your forcing young women to take three

> Gardasil vaccinations which have been causing the " M.A.S.S. " ischemic

>

> response " , strokes, and death.

>

> Dr Moulden ... to serve and to help..once again, we even make

> our imaging toosl available for free (on compassionatre grounds) by

> request.

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>>>> I'd like to see him banned from our board. If he's now

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>>> group, I think he should go. His posts are confusing because of

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>>>> Alison F.

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>>>> Anyone that wants to continue with his whatever he is and says

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> go to

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>>> his group. I think he needs to leave here. Doesn't contribute

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> anything

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>>> IMO but a lot of stress, which none of us can afford.

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>>>> Goodbye IMO. And with love, for crying outloud. Go in peace but

>>>>

> go.

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>>> We mostly prefer to talk about protocols here and some politics.

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>>> Mostly protocols.

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>>>> And I can't read his posts with all his unprofessional

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> typos. If

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>>> you're some big dr. surely you can afford a better system for

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> typing

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>>> your emails. Just go be fruitful and multiply elsewhere.

>>>

> Pllleaase.

>

>>>> In peace just go. Too much chaos you're infusing here. Thank

>>>>

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> you in

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>>> advance.

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>>>> Anyone that interested can email you privately. I'd like him

>>>>

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I beleive Andy described it best, 3/4 of kids with autism have metal

poisoning, the other 1/4 have something else.

> >>>

> >>>> I'd like to see him banned from our board. If he's now

> >>>>

> > got his

> > own

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> >>> group, I think he should go. His posts are confusing because of

> >>>

> > typos

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> >>> and he is argumentaive and taking away from the main usual " flow

> >>>

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> >>> know, go " on this board.

> >>>

> >>>> Alison F.

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> >>>> Anyone that wants to continue with his whatever he is and says

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> > go to

> >

> >>> his group. I think he needs to leave here. Doesn't contribute

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> >>> IMO but a lot of stress, which none of us can afford.

> >>>

> >>>> Goodbye IMO. And with love, for crying outloud. Go in peace but

> >>>>

> > go.

> >

> >>> We mostly prefer to talk about protocols here and some politics.

> >>>

> >>> Mostly protocols.

> >>>

> >>>> And I can't read his posts with all his unprofessional

> >>>>

> > typos. If

> >

> >>> you're some big dr. surely you can afford a better system for

> >>>

> > typing

> >

> >>> your emails. Just go be fruitful and multiply elsewhere.

> >>>

> > Pllleaase.

> >

> >>>> In peace just go. Too much chaos you're infusing here. Thank

> >>>>

> >

> > you in

> >

> >>> advance.

> >>>

> >>>> Anyone that interested can email you privately. I'd like him

> >>>>

> >>> moderated off our board.

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