Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Sorry to hear about your brother in law's unfortunate circumstance. I wish him a speedy recovery. I wonder, did any of your brother's ENTs suggest prednisone treatment at any time? Of course, the glucocorticoid, more catabolic than cortisol itself, would reak havok on muscular development. To the extreme of my awareness, scanning some recent 12 years of my memory, my sense of smell has been as it is today. I suppose a " spontaneous return " is out of the question, and a deterioration of taste is unlikely (knock on wood). After some internet searching, I discovered that the following are potential diagnostics: Sinus CT Scan (CAT Scan) Nasal cytology (Collect some cells from the nasal cavity) Rhinomanometry (To measure nasal airflow and pressure) Skin tests for allergies (RAST) Nasal endoscopy (A small tube through the nose to check for disease / polyps) Scratch-and-sniff Skull x-rays Specific quantitative measurements of smell function Sinus transillumination (a light is placed against the face to help determine if the sinuses are filled with fluid.) I do plan on being very demanding, if approached passively, for some form of diagnostic test(s). I'm not yet certain which test would be for me preferable, but I will do some more reading on this. My hope is that the cause of this can be ascertained without any catabolic steroid drug treatment, as suggested at: <http://www.surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/DAVIDSON/Pathway/Anosmia.htm> ..... so as not to interfere with my bodybuilding endeavors. My history with physicians has been such that they tend to get agitated when the patient demonstrates any knowledge of medicine in any way that may question their judgment. It seems these days the patient needs to perform considerable preemptive research just to avoid misguided treatment. Eugene Sanik Brooklyn, NY -------- Rosemary Vernon wrote: > I am not qualified in any manner to even guess as to whether this > surgery had any effect. However, I would urge you to see a good ENT > and not wait around while the HMO passes you back and forth. > > My brother in law has been complaining to doctors for years about no > sense of smell. He had a stuffy nose to go along with it much of > the time. They told him he had either allergies or sinus trouble > and gave him a plethora of various drugs, not to mention the OTC > sprays he used for years. Finally, he demanded something be done > because he had also lost his sense of taste. They finally sent him > to a different ENT who for once did a CAT scan and discovered nasal > polyps which had grown large over time as well as some kind of > calcified deposits. The surgeon was perplexed why this wasn't taken > care of years ago when the polyps were still small, although this > seems not to be an atypical reaction because of HMO foot dragging. > Because of the long delay in what was an easy surgery, whether he > will regain his sense of smell is touch and go. It's now a waiting > game while he heals up. > > If you're not satisfied with what the first ENT tells you, then > insist on a second opinion. * Don't forget to sign all letters with full name and city if you wish them to be published! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Eugene Sanik wrote: <<I wonder, did any of your brother's ENTs suggest prednisone treatment at any time?>> **** My husband answers: My brother had localized cortisone injections into his elbow which were corticostroids for old diving injuries (he was an underwater welder by profession). Treatments like that will have any long term adverse effects although they certainly are a known side effect. He also has had localized use of steroidal nasal sprays and they may have contributed to his loss of his sense of smell. His latest doctor certainly thought so as well as damaging the prostaglandins lining of his nose. During his early 20's (he is now 62), he suffered an accute attack of systemic lupus, one of the collagen diseases, and it got into his central nervous system causing extreme convulsions. He was treated with very high doses of methyl prednisone which were effective. The lupus has never reoccurred. He didn't have any problems with smell or taste at that time. This only started years later and the doctor is quite certain the cause of the loss of smell was eventually due to the medications given for sinus/allergy and resulting polyps (if these meds did, in fact, cause them). Rosemary Vernon, Editor Dolfzine On-Line Fitness, Inc.® A Not-For-Profit Foundation www.dolfzine.com Marina del Rey, CA IronRoses@... http://www.chuckietechie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 Just talked to my brother-in-law who reports that a week after his surgery of having the polyps removed from his nasal passages, both his sense of smell and taste have returned. His only complaint was that the first thing he smelled in about 10 years of nothing was the boater's bathroom near where his boat is docked. However, he was busy thinking of the list of restaurants he wanted to visit. Hopefully these returned senses won't cause him to gain 20 pounds. Thus it pays to pursue a loss of either sense or smell since the solution may be a simple one if the cause can be discovered. Rosemary Vernon, Editor Dolfzine On-Line Fitness, Inc.® A Not-For-Profit Foundation www.dolfzine.com Marina del Rey, CA IronRoses@... http://www.chuckietechie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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