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Make sure Massage isn’t done by LMT on the same day that you see them. If you’re using 97140, it can’t be done on same area you adjust (makes no sense, but....) Also make sure you’re not going over the 4 modality limit

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From: Larry L. Oliver, DC

Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:22 PM

To: oregondcs

Subject: WC Reimbursement

The insurance dept tells me that they are getting denials from WC for massage and manual therapy. Is anyone else having this problem and what is the solution?

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

fax

www.heresco.com

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So, is this likely to be true for other private insurance companies such as Providence, BCBS, ODS, etc. who have the same policy of "massage is only covered if performed by DC"? Would they be obligated to pay if indeed our LMTs were licensed as CAs? Seems like a wacky loophole to me. If that's what it takes, I guess I'm interested in jumping through that hoop. Jamey Dyson, DC

For SAIF insureds, massage must be provided by a CA or DC. LMT is not an authorized massage provider for SAIF.Also LMT's are not authorized to deliver modalities such as ultrasound or laser,but a CA is. I just have all LMT's cross licensed as CA's with OBCE and make sure your chart notes show massage was delivered by a licensed CA.. Other carriers may be more flexible, but if you satisfy the big boy in the business, you should be OK with the rest. R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818----- WC ReimbursementDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:22:01 -0700

The insurance dept tells me that they are getting denials from WC for massage and manual therapy. Is anyone else having this problem and what is the solution? Larry L. Oliver, DC408 NW 7thCorvallis, ORfax www.heresco.com dro@... The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information which is confidential under applicable law and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify Heresco Chiropractic & Associates, 408 NW 7th St, Corvallis, OR 97330, and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution.

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I had a conversation with the SAIF claim supervisor who clearly stated that an LMT is not an authorized provider in WC, but a CA is . When I clearly showed that massage was delivered by a CA, my SAIF billing problems went away R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818----- WC ReimbursementDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:22:01 -0700

The insurance dept tells me that they are getting denials from WC for massage and manual therapy. Is anyone else having this problem and what is the solution?

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

fax

www.heresco.com

dro@...

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This isn’t true.

An LMT may perform massage under the work comp claim, but the LMT MUST provide those services in your office. We have had no problems thus far with reimbursement.

ph Medlin D.C.

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Subject: Re: WC Reimbursement

I had a conversation with the SAIF claim supervisor who clearly stated that an LMT is not an authorized provider in WC, but a CA is . When I clearly showed that massage was delivered by a CA, my SAIF billing problems went away R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818----- WC ReimbursementDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:22:01 -0700

The insurance dept tells me that they are getting denials from WC for massage and manual therapy. Is anyone else having this problem and what is the solution?

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

fax

www.heresco.com

dro@...

The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information which is confidential under applicable law and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify Heresco Chiropractic & Associates, 408 NW 7th St, Corvallis, OR 97330, and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution.

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Again Joe you must have some special charm,cause I have personal one on one experience with SAIF on this .My LMT's are employees and my billing is thru the clinic. All I can tell you is what has happened in my office. Any body else had this conversation with SAIF? R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818----- WC ReimbursementDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:22:01 -0700

The insurance dept tells me that they are getting denials from WC for massage and manual therapy. Is anyone else having this problem and what is the solution?

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

fax

www.heresco.com

dro@...

The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information which is confidential under applicable law and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify Heresco Chiropractic & Associates, 408 NW 7th St, Corvallis, OR 97330, and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution.

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