Re: new, intro and question (or two)

[Guest guest]

Here's a week of BFL vegetarian meals that may give you some ideas:

http://www.skwigg.com/id58.html

Beans have a little protein in them, but they have twice as many carbs. In

order to get enough protein from beans alone, you would have to go far over

on calories and carbs.

So, yes, on BFL even though beans, milk, and yogurt have some protein, they

count as carb portions. Just like peanut butter has some protein, but it has

twice as much fat so it's counted as a healthy fat portion. It takes awhile

to get your brain around it, but if you follow those guidelines, fat will

fly off of you. :-)

You can always use a protein besides whey. I wouldn't go for soy isolate.

Hemp, rice or egg protein are probably a better choices because they won't

whack out your estrogen levels. People who rely too heavily on isolated soy

protein powder tend to expereince PMS-like bloating, breast tenderness,

weight gain, and moodiness. No fun! That's only the concentrated soy protein

powder though. Whole soy foods are usually fine. Hemp protein powder is

probably fine.

Hope that helps a little. Keep the questions coming. You'll do great!

> Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and particularly

> over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would estimate my

> weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the doctor. I have

> set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am not overly

> caught up with numbers though.

>

> I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for next week and I

> am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a bit of

> wisdom or experience!

>

> First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do eat a small

> amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem I am

> running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list. Yet, at the

> same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " . Beans, soy

> and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional makeup. Will I be

> safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as a 1/2

> protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it difficult to

> plan with out beans as a protein source.

>

> Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex shakes and

> bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow protein. I am

> considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy milk and

> blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my fancy). As

> for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own. Any

> recommendations would be much appreciated.

>

> AM

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the post, !

I'm just starting BfL. I've got one good UB workout and 20 minutes of

screaming cardio under my belt, but I'm not there on the food yet. I just

can't think about so much meat. Plus, I need to visit the grocery store.

That always helps!

Your pictures are very inspiring!

I'm 43 y/o, 145 pounds, 5'4 " . I recently (like Jan. 2) quit drinking

alcohol and diet soda. That ought to help matters.

>

> Here's a week of BFL vegetarian meals that may give you some ideas:

> http://www.skwigg.com/id58.html

>

> Beans have a little protein in them, but they have twice as many carbs. In

> order to get enough protein from beans alone, you would have to go far

> over

> on calories and carbs.

>

> So, yes, on BFL even though beans, milk, and yogurt have some protein,

> they

> count as carb portions. Just like peanut butter has some protein, but it

> has

> twice as much fat so it's counted as a healthy fat portion. It takes

> awhile

> to get your brain around it, but if you follow those guidelines, fat will

> fly off of you. :-)

>

> You can always use a protein besides whey. I wouldn't go for soy isolate.

> Hemp, rice or egg protein are probably a better choices because they won't

> whack out your estrogen levels. People who rely too heavily on isolated

> soy

> protein powder tend to expereince PMS-like bloating, breast tenderness,

> weight gain, and moodiness. No fun! That's only the concentrated soy

> protein

> powder though. Whole soy foods are usually fine. Hemp protein powder is

> probably fine.

>

> Hope that helps a little. Keep the questions coming. You'll do great!

>

>

>

> On Feb 9, 2008 9:20 AM, Ann-Marie Seiler

<amseiler@...<amseiler%40earthlink.net>>

> wrote:

>

> > Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and particularly

> > over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would estimate my

> > weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the doctor. I have

> > set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am not overly

> > caught up with numbers though.

> >

> > I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for next week and I

> > am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a bit of

> > wisdom or experience!

> >

> > First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do eat a small

> > amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem I am

> > running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list. Yet, at the

> > same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " . Beans, soy

> > and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional makeup. Will I be

> > safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as a 1/2

> > protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it difficult to

> > plan with out beans as a protein source.

> >

> > Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex shakes and

> > bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow protein. I am

> > considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy milk and

> > blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my fancy). As

> > for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own. Any

> > recommendations would be much appreciated.

> >

> > AM

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann-Marie,

I was vegetarian until I started all this ly, I found it very

difficult to get the protein I needed without eating meat. I was a

vegetarian for around 25 years. Over the past year I had eaten a meal

or two of meat -- mostly in social situations where there were few

alternates. I started BFL January 1. I have high cholesterol (for

which I take 5 mg of a med/day), so there's a bit of a challenge

there. (I'll be interested to see if that changes after a few months

on BFL).

I use a whey protein, which I get at GNC. Most mornings, I put it in

my soy milk. They also have soy protein. The other sources of protein

I rely on are tofu (eggless tofu salad, yum!), edamame, chicken,

turkey, eggs, and fish. I still refuse to eat a hamburger Also, the

" Body for Life for Women " book is a little different -- it lists NF

yogurt as a protein (because it is high in protein, and as a women,

the calcium is important, so they allow the yogurt as protein -- a

little different than the original BFL).

I still have to " work " at getting protein some days (especially since

my husband does the cooking during the week days -- and some days I'm

looking at a meal of pork chops, potatoes and stuffing), but I just do

the best I can (in this example, grab a salad

So far, my results have been good. I'm down about 6 lbs and have lost

1 - 1.5 inches in my waist, hips, torso, and boobs (unintended as a

34B

Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and particularly

> over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would estimate my

> weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the doctor. I have

> set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am not overly

> caught up with numbers though.

>

> I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for next week and I

> am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a bit of

> wisdom or experience!

>

> First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do eat a small

> amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem I am

> running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list. Yet, at the

> same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " . Beans, soy

> and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional makeup. Will I be

> safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as a 1/2

> protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it difficult to

> plan with out beans as a protein source.

>

> Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex shakes and

> bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow protein. I am

> considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy milk and

> blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my fancy). As

> for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own. Any

> recommendations would be much appreciated.

>

> AM

>

>

[Guest guest]

IIWY I'd increase my fish and egg, using egg whites, if need be, and

possibly hard boiled eggs as a mini-meal instead of the shakes. A lot

of soy milk has extra sugars, which you don't need. Also, there seems

to be some evidence that soy can interfere with the endocrine system,

especially the thyroid. So your TSH goes up, which makes it that much

more difficult to lose weight. I'd suggest you google that for more

info-- some of the data is controversial, but the trend is suggestive.

In any case, I personally would steer clear of sweet or " sweetish "

mini-meals. Breaking the sugar habit, which seems to plague most

women, is a key to keeping weight under control, IMO. And your teeth

don't need any extra sugars, that's for sure. So I'd encourage you to

focus more on non-starchy veggies, rather than fruits or grains, for

at least 3 of your meals. And just totally drop all sodas, alcohol,

candy, etc. for the time being. I'm not saying you should low-carb per

se, just eliminate the stuff that will slow you down and add water

weight. This should help make exercise easier, as well.

Finally, if you've been overweight for some years, and haven't had a

checkup, now is a good time to do so. Getting a baseline reading of

insulin, TSH, triglycerides, HDL/LDL cholesterol ratios, and so on

will help you to see where your system is now, and where you need to

improve. High triglycerides, in particular, are usually easy to fix

with diet and exercise. I also like the C-reactive protein test, for

inflammation-- bringing my CRP down has definitely helped me feel much

better day to day. Anyway, good luck and HTH!

[Guest guest]

Congratulations, Diane, your transformation is awesome.

I like to go back in the archives to see the first post people put in.

You've come a long way!!!!!

Your commitment has paid off big time.

Hugs,

M.

> >

> > > Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and particularly

> > > over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would

estimate my

> > > weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the doctor. I

have

> > > set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am not

overly

> > > caught up with numbers though.

> > >

> > > I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for next

week and I

> > > am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a bit of

> > > wisdom or experience!

> > >

> > > First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do eat a small

> > > amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem I am

> > > running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list. Yet,

at the

> > > same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " . Beans, soy

> > > and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional makeup.

Will I be

> > > safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as a 1/2

> > > protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it

difficult to

> > > plan with out beans as a protein source.

> > >

> > > Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex shakes and

> > > bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow protein. I am

> > > considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy milk and

> > > blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my

fancy). As

> > > for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own. Any

> > > recommendations would be much appreciated.

> > >

> > > AM

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Congratulations, Diane, your transformation is awesome.

I like to go back in the archives to see the first post people put in.

You've come a long way!!!!!

Your commitment has paid off big time.

Hugs,

M.

> >

> > > Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and particularly

> > > over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would

estimate my

> > > weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the doctor. I

have

> > > set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am not

overly

> > > caught up with numbers though.

> > >

> > > I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for next

week and I

> > > am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a bit of

> > > wisdom or experience!

> > >

> > > First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do eat a small

> > > amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem I am

> > > running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list. Yet,

at the

> > > same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " . Beans, soy

> > > and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional makeup.

Will I be

> > > safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as a 1/2

> > > protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it

difficult to

> > > plan with out beans as a protein source.

> > >

> > > Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex shakes and

> > > bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow protein. I am

> > > considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy milk and

> > > blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my

fancy). As

> > > for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own. Any

> > > recommendations would be much appreciated.

> > >

> > > AM

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh wow! How funny to read that! I sort of stumbled into BfL a little bit

at a time and now I'm in it full swing! And much healthier and happier!

> Congratulations, Diane, your transformation is awesome.

> I like to go back in the archives to see the first post people put in.

> You've come a long way!!!!!

> Your commitment has paid off big time.

>

> Hugs,

> M.

>

>

> > >

> > > > Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and particularly

> > > > over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would

> estimate my

> > > > weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the doctor. I

> have

> > > > set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am not

> overly

> > > > caught up with numbers though.

> > > >

> > > > I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for next

> week and I

> > > > am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a bit of

> > > > wisdom or experience!

> > > >

> > > > First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do eat a small

> > > > amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem I am

> > > > running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list. Yet,

> at the

> > > > same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " . Beans, soy

> > > > and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional makeup.

> Will I be

> > > > safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as a 1/2

> > > > protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it

> difficult to

> > > > plan with out beans as a protein source.

> > > >

> > > > Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex shakes and

> > > > bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow protein. I am

> > > > considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy milk and

> > > > blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my

> fancy). As

> > > > for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own. Any

> > > > recommendations would be much appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Diane,

I just wanted to say, I was able to view your pics at Tracker, and

you look absolutely wonderful! I am sure you're very proud of

yourself, you worked hard. Keep it up!

Karyn

> > > >

> > > > > Hello everyone. I am starting BFL tomorrow. I am 34 and

particularly

> > > > > over weight. If I had to guess (I don't do scales!) I would

> > estimate my

> > > > > weight around 240 based on the last time I went to the

doctor. I

> > have

> > > > > set a goal of reaching 165 by my birthday in December. I am

not

> > overly

> > > > > caught up with numbers though.

> > > > >

> > > > > I sat down last night and tried to plan out my meals for

next

> > week and I

> > > > > am having some difficulties and hoping ya'll can dole out a

bit of

> > > > > wisdom or experience!

> > > > >

> > > > > First, I am a quasi vegetarian. I say quasi because I do

eat a small

> > > > > amount of fish and a small amount of game meat. The problem

I am

> > > > > running into is the fact that beans are on the " carb " list.

Yet,

> > at the

> > > > > same time " soy foods " are listed as " vegetarian protein " .

Beans, soy

> > > > > and legumes are all very similar in their nutritional

makeup.

> > Will I be

> > > > > safe using beans or lentils as a protein (or maybe using as

a 1/2

> > > > > protein - 1/2 carb) once or twice a week? I am finding it

> > difficult to

> > > > > plan with out beans as a protein source.

> > > > >

> > > > > Second, can anyone recommend a substitute for the myoplex

shakes and

> > > > > bars? They are all whey based and I am allergic to cow

protein. I am

> > > > > considering making my own with hemp protein powder, soy

milk and

> > > > > blueberries (or some other fruit or veggie that strikes my

> > fancy). As

> > > > > for the bars I am on the hunt for a recipe to make my own.

Any

> > > > > recommendations would be much appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >