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has been having VitD3 for about 2yrs now, maybe more, but only recently swapped to Mandi's brand.

Not noticed any cognitive changes at all, but huge physical gains, started growing again, so gaining some height, teeth came in after about 8weeks starting.

We haven't gone to the much higher doses though, so maybe with gradual increasing we could see some cognitive gains.

Sleep completely unchanged.

Vicky

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I've been giving Edith 3,000 IU of Vitamin D daily for about three

weeks. She's on good form. Cognitively surprising at times appearing to

be more with-it than I expect. Not Wow but good. Might be the D3, might

not. No changes in her sleep that I can observe or would definitely pin

down to D3

Sally

MaddiganV@... wrote:

>

> has been having VitD3 for about 2yrs now, maybe more, but only

> recently swapped to Mandi's brand.

> Not noticed any cognitive changes at all, but huge physical gains,

> started growing again, so gaining some height, teeth came in after

> about 8weeks starting.

> We haven't gone to the much higher doses though, so maybe with gradual

> increasing we could see some cognitive gains.

> Sleep completely unchanged.

> Vicky

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We're doing D3. Main change seems to be he keeps taking off his nappyand weeing over the furniture

>>>My friends daughter has done that with antiviral supps and she is Very very HF. And it was real stinky wee too - is Tom's extra smelly?

Mandi x

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i DID WHEN WE FIRST STARTED HIGHER DOSES BUT THAT WAS AGES AGO WHEN WE STARTED YASKO, HE HAS BEEN STAYING UP LATER BUT ITS HOLIDAYS AND ROUTINE ALL MESSED UP BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN AWAY. HE IS SLEEPING LATER ALSO SO IN FACT SLEEPING THE SAME AMOUNT

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Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are the

only ones so far doing VitD3.

Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns of

your kids?

Vitamin D3 Question

Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are the

only ones so far doing VitD3.

Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns of

your kids?

Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per night after

only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to 1000iu's per day.

Miles

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We're doing D3. Main change seems to be he keeps taking off his nappy

and weeing over the furniture. however, no other negative signs so

we'll keep on with it. He's a bit of a nightmare currently but not

that can be blamed on the D3!!

>

>

> Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are the

> only ones so far doing VitD3.

>

> Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns of

> your kids?

>

> Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per night after

> only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to 1000iu's per

day.

>

> Miles

>

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I am taking 2000 three times a day.

>>I am planning to take me up to 10,000ius per day, Sam I am stcking with 6,000ius he looks like he's detoxing and had some viral like spots on his back x 2 which are fading a bit now.

Prior to going higher he was already on 2,400iu's winter months and 1,400ius in the summer.

he tanned for the first time this summer :)

Mandi x

PS I stay out of the sun big time and have done for about 15 years

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What

sort of high dose are people aiming at with Vit D3?

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2008 15:28

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Vitamin D3 Question

I've been giving Edith 3,000 IU of Vitamin D daily for

about three

weeks. She's on good form. Cognitively surprising at times appearing to

be more with-it than I expect. Not Wow but good. Might be the D3, might

not. No changes in her sleep that I can observe or would definitely pin

down to D3

Sally

MaddiganVaol wrote:

>

> has been having VitD3 for about 2yrs now, maybe more, but only

> recently swapped to Mandi's brand.

> Not noticed any cognitive changes at all, but huge physical gains,

> started growing again, so gaining some height, teeth came in after

> about 8weeks starting.

> We haven't gone to the much higher doses though, so maybe with gradual

> increasing we could see some cognitive gains.

> Sleep completely unchanged.

> Vicky

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I am taking 2000 three times a day.

RE: Vitamin D3 Question

What sort of high dose are people aiming at with Vit D3?

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I've been giving Edith 3,000 IU of Vitamin D daily for about three weeks. She's on good form. Cognitively surprising at times appearing to be more with-it than I expect. Not Wow but good. Might be the D3, might not. No changes in her sleep that I can observe or would definitely pin down to D3SallyMaddiganVaol wrote:>> has been having VitD3 for about 2yrs now, maybe more, but only > recently swapped to Mandi's brand.> Not noticed any cognitive changes at all, but huge physical gains, > started growing again, so gaining some height, teeth came in after > about 8weeks starting. > We haven't gone to the much higher doses though, so maybe with gradual > increasing we could see some cognitive gains.> Sleep completely unchanged.> Vicky>> > ---------------------------------------------------------->> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: 04/01/2008 12:05>

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Yeah, really interesting. I’ve always told

people I have the skin of a ginger person (lots of gingers in my family

including Tom) and I stay out of the sun too. The trouble is I over zealously kept

Tom out of the sun when he was little and lagged him in chemical suntan cream

before people like the ones on this list enlightened me. Tom’s only 5,

where do I find out the top level of Vit D I should

be aiming at for him? there’s no hurry I’ve

just upped him to 1,500 and he’s having a reaction again, bless him –

although I can see further improvements too. NEGS = poor sleep AGAIN, accidents

(poo and wee), v. obsessive. POS’s = improved

language, spoke about the past for the first time yesterday. When I asked if

the cut on his head was hurting he said ‘yes, fell down’ which I find

mind blowing. He keeps saying ‘together’ type things like ‘mummy

and Tom making letters?’ (his fave obsessive activity which he definitely prefers to do

ALONE normally) and also ‘mummy and Tom love ’ (my niece)

SARA

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In a

message dated 09/01/2008 10:39:25 GMT Standard Time, moppett1btinternet

writes:

I am

taking 2000 three times a day.

>>I

am planning to take me up to 10,000ius per day, Sam I am stcking with 6,000ius

he looks like he's detoxing and had some viral like spots on his back x 2 which

are fading a bit now.

Prior

to going higher he was already on 2,400iu's winter months and 1,400ius in the

summer.

he

tanned for the first time this summer :)

Mandi x

PS I

stay out of the sun big time and have done for about 15 years

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Question about Vit D3 - can I check which brand/form you are all using?

>>I have used a whole bunch, Twinlabs Allergy A (10,000ius) & D (400ius) and LEF 1,000ius D3 caps to build up, Yasko 1,000ius tabs (easy to cut and crush) for me but now we have reached higher doses I am using the stuff recommends which is Liqui-D3 by Rx Vitamins.

Rx Vitamins usually only supply medics but helped me obtain it for MM so her patients can access it. At 2,000iu's per drop its probably not the best stuff to start with but if and when you get to higher dosing it makes things very easy and cost efficient - there are 900 doses of 2,000ius in a bottle with a long sell by date, potentially 2.5 years supply in a bottle!. If you take it straight it tastes like Olive Oil, if you mix it in food or drink there is really no taste at all.

I used to keep the LEF one at MM but they changed formula to include Soy and Corn, that being a no no for so many and a chance people might purchase without noticing and kids regressing so I stopped keeping it.

Mandi x

PS I stayed with the Tommeys recently and Jon had been using a 10,000iu tab for , I forget the brand but I'll ask Jon for those that plan to go mega dosing, they were in a tub and I thought Lamberts but haven't been able to find them on line so I probably remembered wrong.

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I stopped the D3 this week due to no sleep, a week of being kept

awake until 3 or 4 am then Sunday awake ALL night with no sleep at

all. He was very happy though !!!! I did escalate the dose to 6,000

within days rather than weeks, but thought his behaviour would be worse

on low dosing (he was on epam for leg cramps for a few years and

low doses had him bouncing off the ceiling- chelation got rid of the

cramps fortunately). I really want to try the D3 longer term but need

some sleep especially as preparing for Tribunal at present !! The D3

was the only change. I must say it was great to have him so happy but

not shrieking with happiness all night.

Celia

>

>

> Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are the

> only ones so far doing VitD3.

>

> Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns of

> your kids?

>

> Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per night after

> only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to 1000iu's per

day.

>

> Miles

>

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Hi Mandi,

Thanks for the information. Will keep the liqui-D3 in mind for the

high dosing as at the moment son is getting 500iu in the Kirkman CLO and

like you say a drop of 2000iu would be a big jump. Appreciate it if

you get to find other alternatives.

emily xx

>

>

> In a message dated 10/01/2008 11:07:54 GMT Standard Time,

> emilyscorer@... writes:

>

> Question about Vit D3 - can I check which brand/form you are all

using?

>

>

>

> >>I have used a whole bunch, Twinlabs Allergy A (10,000ius) & D

(400ius) and

> LEF 1,000ius D3 caps to build up, Yasko 1,000ius tabs (easy to cut and

> crush) for me but now we have reached higher doses I am using the

stuff Jean

> recommends which is Liqui-D3 by Rx Vitamins.

>

> Rx Vitamins usually only supply medics but helped me obtain it

for MM

> so her patients can access it. At 2,000iu's per drop its probably not

the best

> stuff to start with but if and when you get to higher dosing it makes

things

> very easy and cost efficient - there are 900 doses of 2,000ius in a

bottle

> with a long sell by date, potentially 2.5 years supply in a bottle!.

If you

> take it straight it tastes like Olive Oil, if you mix it in food or

drink there

> is really no taste at all.

>

> I used to keep the LEF one at MM but they changed formula to include

Soy and

> Corn, that being a no no for so many and a chance people might

purchase

> without noticing and kids regressing so I stopped keeping it.

>

> Mandi x

> PS I stayed with the Tommeys recently and Jon had been using a

10,000iu tab

> for , I forget the brand but I'll ask Jon for those that plan to

go mega

> dosing, they were in a tub and I thought Lamberts but haven't been

able to

> find them on line so I probably remembered wrong.

>

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> >

> >

> > Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are the

> > only ones so far doing VitD3.

> >

> > Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns of

> > your kids?

> >

> > Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per night after

> > only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to 1000iu's per

> day.

> >

> > Miles

> >

>

Hi Celia.

I would like to say that I am pleased that someone else had a sleep

problem whilst on VitD3, but that wouldn't be very helpful or

productive. I just wish I knew why it was happening. Anyone have any

ideas?

Miles

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dont know why kids are not sleeping but in the summer

when there is loads of vit d about people go to bed later dont they

and arent tired.

but in the winter less vitamin D, people are generally more tired

earlier and go to bed earlier cos its dark

Copied this off the internet

" Vitamin D levels are inversely related to those of melatonin,

another mood-regulating hormone. Melatonin helps modulate your

circadian rhythms, with darkness triggering melatonin secretion by

the pineal gland within your brain, bringing you down gently at night

for sleep. Insomnia, mood swings and food cravings are influenced by

melatonin. Sunlight shuts melatonin production off, while triggering

release of vitamin D - that's why doctors recommend getting outdoors

as a remedy for jet lag. "

Not sure what to make of that apart from keeping your kids in a

really dark room no lamps on etc..to encourage melatonin production.

Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are

the

> > > only ones so far doing VitD3.

> > >

> > > Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns

of

> > > your kids?

> > >

> > > Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per

night after

> > > only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to

1000iu's per

> > day.

> > >

> > > Miles

> > >

> >

> Hi Celia.

>

> I would like to say that I am pleased that someone else had a sleep

> problem whilst on VitD3, but that wouldn't be very helpful or

> productive. I just wish I knew why it was happening. Anyone have any

> ideas?

>

> Miles

>

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Doesn’t work if they’re running up and down the room manically at 100 mph repeating things even more manically or jumping on the bed you’re lying on, or crying inconsolably about nothing in particular or headbutting you constantly. My son didn’t used to have sleep problems so I don’t think it’s about parenting.

SARA (who got 3 hours sleep last night)

>>Sam has been the same and the melatonin has not worked on a few nights either. I have stopped for a break for a week because its driving me mad. We were at 6,400ius for 10 days. The extra 2,000ius is what made the difference with sleep, he was used to the previous dose.

I upped his Pycnogenol to 100mgs x 3 today and he is much calmer

Mandi x

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I tend

to lie in the dark next to my son on his bed and sing nursery rhymes in a very

boring, droning voice.

Works every time form him but also for me

too!

Sal x

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Sent: 11 January 2008 13:22

To:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject:

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

dont know why kids

are not sleeping but in the summer

when there is loads of vit d about people go to bed later dont they

and arent tired.

but in the winter less vitamin D, people are generally more tired

earlier and go to bed earlier cos its dark

Copied this off the internet

" Vitamin D levels are inversely related to those of melatonin,

another mood-regulating hormone. Melatonin helps modulate your

circadian rhythms, with darkness triggering melatonin secretion by

the pineal gland within your brain, bringing you down gently at night

for sleep. Insomnia, mood swings and food cravings are influenced by

melatonin. Sunlight shuts melatonin production off, while triggering

release of vitamin D - that's why doctors recommend getting outdoors

as a remedy for jet lag. "

Not sure what to make of that apart from keeping your kids in a

really dark room no lamps on etc..to encourage melatonin production.

Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are

the

> > > only ones so far doing VitD3.

> > >

> > > Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns

of

> > > your kids?

> > >

> > > Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per

night after

> > > only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to

1000iu's per

> > day.

> > >

> > > Miles

> > >

> >

> Hi Celia.

>

> I would like to say that I am pleased that someone else had a sleep

> problem whilst on VitD3, but that wouldn't be very helpful or

> productive. I just wish I knew why it was happening. Anyone have any

> ideas?

>

> Miles

>

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Just heard that it happened to 2 other kids with ASD last night too here in Plymouth and it was a full moon, apparently. I really don’t think Tom has parasites as he’s been tested often enough. What else could reacting to the full moon mean? Or for what other reason could they all have been up? (all the in the SW)

>>I'm convinced the high dose D3 is doing summat for virus, and viral die off is nasty and mixed up with yeast. I looked on line and it says full moon is 22nd of this month???

Mandi x

PS sam still has those spot/patches one on each shoulder blade..........

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was wide awake in the early hours and we are in the North West! We aren't giving D3 either. Isn't the moon linked with parasites?

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Mandi,

Just heard that it happened to 2 other kids with ASD last night too here in Plymouth and it was a full moon, apparently. I really don’t think Tom has parasites as he’s been tested often enough. What else could reacting to the full moon mean? Or for what other reason could they all have been up? (all the in the SW)

Sara

-----Original Message-----From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe [mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Mum231ASDaolSent: 12 January 2008 15:15To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Subject: Re: Re: Vitamin D3 Question

In a message dated 12/01/2008 14:03:32 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-Tiscali (DOT) co.uk writes:

Doesn’t work if they’re running up and down the room manically at 100 mph repeating things even more manically or jumping on the bed you’re lying on, or crying inconsolably about nothing in particular or headbutting you constantly. My son didn’t used to have sleep problems so I don’t think it’s about parenting.

SARA (who got 3 hours sleep last night)

>>Sam has been the same and the melatonin has not worked on a few nights either. I have stopped for a break for a week because its driving me mad. We were at 6,400ius for 10 days. The extra 2,000ius is what made the difference with sleep, he was used to the previous dose.

I upped his Pycnogenol to 100mgs x 3 today and he is much calmer

Mandi x

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Sara

Sorry didn’t mean to imply it was a

parenting issue! Sleep deprivation is a real killer, I sympathise.

Sal x

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Sent: 12 February 2008 14:03

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Re: Vitamin D3 Question

Doesn’t

work if they’re running up and down the room manically at 100 mph

repeating things even more manically or jumping on the bed you’re lying

on, or crying inconsolably about nothing in particular or headbutting

you constantly. My son didn’t used to have sleep problems so I

don’t think it’s about parenting.

SARA

(who got 3 hours sleep last night)

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From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

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Sent: 12 January 2008 13:50

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject: RE:

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

I tend

to lie in the dark next to my son on his bed and sing nursery rhymes in a very

boring, droning voice.

Works

every time form him but also for me too!

Sal x

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From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Joanne Burke

Sent: 11 January 2008 13:22

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject:

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

dont know why kids are not sleeping but in the summer

when there is loads of vit d about people go to bed later dont they

and arent tired.

but in the winter less vitamin D, people are generally more tired

earlier and go to bed earlier cos its dark

Copied this off the internet

" Vitamin D levels are inversely related to those of melatonin,

another mood-regulating hormone. Melatonin helps modulate your

circadian rhythms, with darkness triggering melatonin secretion by

the pineal gland within your brain, bringing you down gently at night

for sleep. Insomnia, mood swings and food cravings are influenced by

melatonin. Sunlight shuts melatonin production off, while triggering

release of vitamin D - that's why doctors recommend getting outdoors

as a remedy for jet lag. "

Not sure what to make of that apart from keeping your kids in a

really dark room no lamps on etc..to encourage melatonin production.

Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are

the

> > > only ones so far doing VitD3.

> > >

> > > Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns

of

> > > your kids?

> > >

> > > Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per

night after

> > > only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to

1000iu's per

> > day.

> > >

> > > Miles

> > >

> >

> Hi Celia.

>

> I would like to say that I am pleased that someone else had a sleep

> problem whilst on VitD3, but that wouldn't be very helpful or

> productive. I just wish I knew why it was happening. Anyone have any

> ideas?

>

> Miles

>

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Doesn’t

work if they’re running up and down the room manically at 100 mph repeating

things even more manically or jumping on the bed you’re lying on, or

crying inconsolably about nothing in particular or headbutting

you constantly. My son didn’t used to have sleep problems so I don’t

think it’s about parenting.

SARA

(who got 3 hours sleep last night)

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From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Sally

Sent: 12 January

2008 13:50

To:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject: RE:

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

I tend to lie in the dark next to my son

on his bed and sing nursery rhymes in a very boring, droning voice.

Works every time form him but also for me

too!

Sal x

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

dont know why kids are not sleeping but in the summer

when there is loads of vit d about people go to bed later dont they

and arent tired.

but in the winter less vitamin D, people are generally more tired

earlier and go to bed earlier cos its dark

Copied this off the internet

" Vitamin D levels are inversely related to those of melatonin,

another mood-regulating hormone. Melatonin helps modulate your

circadian rhythms, with darkness triggering melatonin secretion by

the pineal gland within your brain, bringing you down gently at night

for sleep. Insomnia, mood swings and food cravings are influenced by

melatonin. Sunlight shuts melatonin production off, while triggering

release of vitamin D - that's why doctors recommend getting outdoors

as a remedy for jet lag. "

Not sure what to make of that apart from keeping your kids in a

really dark room no lamps on etc..to encourage melatonin production.

Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are

the

> > > only ones so far doing VitD3.

> > >

> > > Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns

of

> > > your kids?

> > >

> > > Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per

night after

> > > only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to

1000iu's per

> > day.

> > >

> > > Miles

> > >

> >

> Hi Celia.

>

> I would like to say that I am pleased that someone else had a sleep

> problem whilst on VitD3, but that wouldn't be very helpful or

> productive. I just wish I knew why it was happening. Anyone have any

> ideas?

>

> Miles

>

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Thanks, I was suffering from sleep deprivation yesterday. Fortunately Tom

catches up after a terrible night like that and we had a good one last night. Sorry

if I sounded cross, I wasn’t – just tired. Sara

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[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Sally

Sent: 13 January 2008 16:29

To:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject: RE:

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

Sara

Sorry didn’t mean to imply it was a

parenting issue! Sleep deprivation is a real killer, I sympathise.

Sal x

Re: Vitamin D3 Question

dont know why kids are not sleeping but in the summer

when there is loads of vit d about people go to bed later dont they

and arent tired.

but in the winter less vitamin D, people are generally more tired

earlier and go to bed earlier cos its dark

Copied this off the internet

" Vitamin D levels are inversely related to those of melatonin,

another mood-regulating hormone. Melatonin helps modulate your

circadian rhythms, with darkness triggering melatonin secretion by

the pineal gland within your brain, bringing you down gently at night

for sleep. Insomnia, mood swings and food cravings are influenced by

melatonin. Sunlight shuts melatonin production off, while triggering

release of vitamin D - that's why doctors recommend getting outdoors

as a remedy for jet lag. "

Not sure what to make of that apart from keeping your kids in a

really dark room no lamps on etc..to encourage melatonin production.

Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > Looking at the posts, it looks like Mandi and brownsauce66 are

the

> > > only ones so far doing VitD3.

> > >

> > > Are either of you two noticing any change in the sleep patterns

of

> > > your kids?

> > >

> > > Our Ralph went from sleeping about 8 hours to 4 hours per

night after

> > > only a few days of Vit D3 and we didn't quite get up to

1000iu's per

> > day.

> > >

> > > Miles

> > >

> >

> Hi Celia.

>

> I would like to say that I am pleased that someone else had a sleep

> problem whilst on VitD3, but that wouldn't be very helpful or

> productive. I just wish I knew why it was happening. Anyone have any

> ideas?

>

> Miles

>

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