RE: Re: OT: ABC'S AUTISM OUTRAGE

[Guest guest]

I

think it’s possibly a good sign that they’re scared. We’ll

win in the end – they know that – it’s just a case of how

long they can hold out. Sara

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Re: OT: ABC'S AUTISM OUTRAGE

pharma co's and medical establishment and tight fisted governments

are afraid of " life imitating art " here.

we all know movies are often the portent of what is to come in

reality. look at how they have been revving us up for the past 20

yeas with star wars and disaster films.

i personally wouldnt get too excited about this show, as no doubt

another one will be made where a court room drama is involved and the

idea of vaccines contributing to autism is infinitely quashed.

dont trust em

>

> Each day I get a google email of all the press releases related to

autism -

> this topic, by far, has dominated the media regarding autism for

the last week

> or so. The issue of whether or not this episode would air, etc...

>

> I can't believe that Big Pharma can influence the AAP to put

pressure on one

> of the biggest broadcasting networks...this is just insane. It

makes me sick.

>

> _Click here: ABC'S AUTISM OUTRAGE_

>

(http://www.nypost.com/seven/01312008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/abcs_

autism_outrage_406277.htm)

>

> ABC'S AUTISM OUTRAGE

> By JEFF STIER

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> January 31, 2008 -- UNDER pressure from the American Academy of

> Pediatricians, ABC tonight will include an extraordinary

disclaimer on the first episode

> of its new series " Eli Stone " - reminding viewers that

everything

in the

> lawyer drama, which depicts real-life issues, is just fiction.

> Why the unusual disclaimer?

> Because the show perpetuates an insidious myth - namely, that

childhood

> vaccines are a cause of autism.

> At issue in the episode is whether the thimerosal preservative

formerly used

> in vaccines causes autism. A jury in the show concludes the

opposite of what

> just about everyone in the real world should now know: that the

supposed

> vaccine-autism link is based on discredited studies and wacky

activist

> assertions.

> On the face of it, ABC's disclaimer that the show is fiction seems

> unnecessary. Who'd really think a prime-time drama is a

documentary?

> Problem is, popular media and celebrities hold great sway over

public

> opinion. A new report released by my organization, the American

Council on Science

> and Health, notes that celebrities are making all sorts of

mistaken

> assertions about public-health matters.

> Whether it's Sheryl Crow making a flap about the " danger " of

heated

plastic

> or Tom Cruise railing against the notion of mental illness, our

scientists

> concluded the stars were wrong - but the public is listening to its

idols.

> It's clear that celebrities, both as outspoken public figures and

on TV

> shows, have a funny way of getting us to believe them - despite

their absolute

> lack of expertise. Indeed, their actual expertise, like the

expertise of the

> " Eli Stone " producers, lies in getting us to believe their

fiction.

> So it took an almost unprecedented move to get ABC to remind

viewers that

> " Eli Stone " is just fiction.

> The pediatricians' association had actually called on ABC and its

> child-friendly parent, the Walt Disney Co., to cancel the episode.

Of course, no group

> has any legal power to censor what we see on TV. But the call for

ABC to

> voluntarily cancel the show encouraged the network to take some

much-needed

> responsibility.

> How outrageous is the episode? Consider how rare it is that a large

group of

> physicians actually has the courage to take a stand like this - to

risk

> coming off as censors. When else has such a large, mainstream

group been able to

> reach a consensus and speak out against unscientific nonsense this

way?

> We should applaud the pediatricians' move and encourage other

serious

> science-oriented groups to take similar approaches in combating

junk science.

> Oh, and about " Eli Stone, " a crusading lawyer who has

" visions "

about how he

> can improve the world: Let's keep a cautious eye on that show,

while it

> lasts.

> Jeff Stier is an associate director of the American Council on

Science and H

> ealth (HealthFactsAndFears.com, ACSH.org).

>

[Guest guest]

Or rather what they can do to maneuver out of the

liability (can you say granting immunity, passing laws

limiting or preventing damage awards) before we can

prove it and win.

--- Sass and Rem wrote:

> I think it's possibly a good sign that they're

> scared. We'll win in the

> end - they know that - it's just a case of how long

> they can hold out.

> Sara

>

> Re: OT: ABC'S

> AUTISM OUTRAGE

>

> pharma co's and medical establishment and tight

> fisted governments

> are afraid of " life imitating art " here.

>

> we all know movies are often the portent of what is

> to come in

> reality. look at how they have been revving us up

> for the past 20

> yeas with star wars and disaster films.

>

> i personally wouldnt get too excited about this

> show, as no doubt

> another one will be made where a court room drama is

> involved and the

> idea of vaccines contributing to autism is

> infinitely quashed.

>

> dont trust em

> >

> > Each day I get a google email of all the press

> releases related to

> autism -

> > this topic, by far, has dominated the media

> regarding autism for

> the last week

> > or so. The issue of whether or not this episode

> would air, etc...

> >

> > I can't believe that Big Pharma can influence the

> AAP to put

> pressure on one

> > of the biggest broadcasting networks...this is

> just insane. It

> makes me sick.

> >

> > _Click here: ABC'S AUTISM OUTRAGE_

> >

> (http://www.nypost.

>

<http://www.nypost.com/seven/01312008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/abcs_>

> com/seven/01312008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/abcs_

> autism_outrage_406277.htm)

> >

> > ABC'S AUTISM OUTRAGE

> > By JEFF STIER

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> > January 31, 2008 -- UNDER pressure from the

> American Academy of

> > Pediatricians, ABC tonight will include an

> extraordinary

> disclaimer on the first episode

> > of its new series " Eli Stone " - reminding viewers

> that everything

> in the

> > lawyer drama, which depicts real-life issues, is

> just fiction.

> > Why the unusual disclaimer?

> > Because the show perpetuates an insidious myth -

> namely, that

> childhood

> > vaccines are a cause of autism.

> > At issue in the episode is whether the thimerosal

> preservative

> formerly used

> > in vaccines causes autism. A jury in the show

> concludes the

> opposite of what

> > just about everyone in the real world should now

> know: that the

> supposed

> > vaccine-autism link is based on discredited

> studies and wacky

> activist

> > assertions.

> > On the face of it, ABC's disclaimer that the show

> is fiction seems

> > unnecessary. Who'd really think a prime-time drama

> is a

> documentary?

> > Problem is, popular media and celebrities hold

> great sway over

> public

> > opinion. A new report released by my organization,

> the American

> Council on Science

> > and Health, notes that celebrities are making all

> sorts of

> mistaken

> > assertions about public-health matters.

> > Whether it's Sheryl Crow making a flap about the

> " danger " of heated

> plastic

> > or Tom Cruise railing against the notion of mental

> illness, our

> scientists

> > concluded the stars were wrong - but the public is

> listening to its

> idols.

> > It's clear that celebrities, both as outspoken

> public figures and

> on TV

> > shows, have a funny way of getting us to believe

> them - despite

> their absolute

> > lack of expertise. Indeed, their actual expertise,

> like the

> expertise of the

> > " Eli Stone " producers, lies in getting us to

> believe their

> fiction.

> > So it took an almost unprecedented move to get ABC

> to remind

> viewers that

> > " Eli Stone " is just fiction.

> > The pediatricians' association had actually called

> on ABC and its

> > child-friendly parent, the Walt Disney Co., to

> cancel the episode.

> Of course, no group

> > has any legal power to censor what we see on TV.

> But the call for

> ABC to

> > voluntarily cancel the show encouraged the network

> to take some

> much-needed

> > responsibility.

> > How outrageous is the episode? Consider how rare

> it is that a large

> group of

> > physicians actually has the courage to take a

> stand like this - to

> risk

> > coming off as censors. When else has such a large,

> mainstream

> group been able to

> > reach a consensus and speak out against

> unscientific nonsense this

> way?

> > We should applaud the pediatricians' move and

> encourage other

> serious

> > science-oriented groups to take similar approaches

> in combating

> junk science.

> > Oh, and about " Eli Stone, " a crusading lawyer who

> has " visions "

> about how he

> > can improve the world: Let's keep a cautious eye

> on that show,

> while it

> > lasts.

> > Jeff Stier is an associate director of the

> American Council on

> Science and H

> > ealth (HealthFactsAndFears.com, ACSH.org).

> >

>

>

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