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Remember that the information you're getting is not from the physical

body, but the luminous / energetic body. Further, according to many

old texts and the calibration of Dr. Hawkins, the body should

not be cremated for three days after " death, " because it takes that

long for the silver cord to detach. Perhaps (and I'm not saying this

is so) when your uncle's scores went up, he was relieved to finally be

" home. " When we use the QX, we gotta get into intuitive, holisitc

mode and stretch our minds. How info presents itself to you and your

practice may not be how it presents to me. We all have a different

relationship with the QX and in the final analysis, it's not so much

the QX that we rely on, but our own selves. When you use the word

" fishy " I think of Key l7 in the tarot deck.

Key l7 presents the fisher bird waiting waiting waiting for a

fish...it's the card of meditation. The bird trusts that a fish will

eventually come along if it waits long enough. It's the same thing

with fishing for answers -- instead of moving into mistrust, why not

trust that the answer you seek will come, sometimes in a way you don't

expect. The Qx is going to present us with many questions, many

mysteries. is Rotella, M.Ac., Arnold, Md.

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> I have monitored patients making the transition from life to death.

> There was NO way to tell ( via scores or other data) that these

> patients had, in fact, died. In one case (my uncle), the scores

> actually went up. Seems fishy to me....

> There are several things about this device that disturb me. That

> said, I have also had a plethora of astonishing positive results as

> well.

> I am also disturbed that patients with severe pathologies

> and/or multiple verified carcinomas show nothing on repetetive

> testings that indicate that those disease states even exist.

> Personally, I have faith in this device, but how does one

> explain such things to others?

> Any positive input would be appreciated. I am not citicizing the

> device, but I would be lying if I said I was comfortable with all

> this...

> F.T. Webb

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In response to your statement that you are disturbed that patients with severe pathologies or verified carcinoma show nothing on repetetive testings, when I was trained on the QX I was told the device picked up subtle energetic changes in the body and that conditions that existed for awhile had become a part of the terrain and may not be picked up as 'foreign'. I thought it made sense and I am sure others in the group have possibly better explanations.

Rick

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On purely cellular, electrical and quantum mechanical levels, which is what

the QXCI/SCIO measures, the body does not halt all activity when we would

otherwise consider the person dead. Many of the person's cells of the body

live on for days, particularly those that do not have a direct blood supply

such as in the joints. All of the bacteria, viruses and parasites that

piggyback on our bodies are still alive and in fact many will thrive when

the immune system shuts down permanently from the death of their host. DNA

can be analyzed and identified from a body centuries after death, because

the DNA still retains its vibrational qualities as long as its molecules

exist even if the body has been embalmed. It would be interesting to see

what readings the QXCI/SCIO would have on the DNA of people who have been

long dead.

Kelley

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> I have monitored patients making the transition from life to death.

> There was NO way to tell ( via scores or other data) that these

> patients had, in fact, died. In one case (my uncle), the scores

> actually went up.

> F.T. Webb

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I have had amazing issues come up as they were leaving this life. Most

often the wording " life force diminished " , and yes the energy may be higher

after (it actually should be) since there is no body, illness, etc. to

dampen the energy fields. They are now what I often think of as raw energy

right after passing. It is actually one of the reasons I believe we should

not use the machine on those who pass, since we do not know what we may be

taping into, or how this will affect this raw energy. Something to think

about.

Yours in health,

Kathy

life and death

I have monitored patients making the transition from life to death.

There was NO way to tell ( via scores or other data) that these

patients had, in fact, died. In one case (my uncle), the scores

actually went up. Seems fishy to me....

There are several things about this device that disturb me. That

said, I have also had a plethora of astonishing positive results as

well.

I am also disturbed that patients with severe pathologies

and/or multiple verified carcinomas show nothing on repetetive

testings that indicate that those disease states even exist.

Personally, I have faith in this device, but how does one

explain such things to others?

Any positive input would be appreciated. I am not citicizing the

device, but I would be lying if I said I was comfortable with all

this...

F.T. Webb

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And it is said that it takes three days for the silver cord to

disconnect from the physical -- thus the funeral ritual of the three

days hanging around in the funeral home for much of the world. AKR

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> > I have monitored patients making the transition from life to death.

> > There was NO way to tell ( via scores or other data) that these

> > patients had, in fact, died. In one case (my uncle), the scores

> > actually went up.

> > F.T. Webb

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Don't you also think that your intention in using the QX has a lot to

do with it? If a person is used to seeing people across to the other

side, the QX might be a great tool. We can be button pushers or we

can be ministers. It's up to each of us. What is our clear intention

for those who are in transition? is

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> I have had amazing issues come up as they were leaving this life. Most

> often the wording " life force diminished " , and yes the energy may be

higher

> after (it actually should be) since there is no body, illness, etc. to

> dampen the energy fields. They are now what I often think of as raw

energy

> right after passing. It is actually one of the reasons I believe we

should

> not use the machine on those who pass, since we do not know what we

may be

> taping into, or how this will affect this raw energy. Something to

think

> about.

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> Yours in health,

> Kathy

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> I have monitored patients making the transition from life to death.

> There was NO way to tell ( via scores or other data) that these

> patients had, in fact, died. In one case (my uncle), the scores

> actually went up. Seems fishy to me....

> There are several things about this device that disturb me. That

> said, I have also had a plethora of astonishing positive results as

> well.

> I am also disturbed that patients with severe pathologies

> and/or multiple verified carcinomas show nothing on repetetive

> testings that indicate that those disease states even exist.

> Personally, I have faith in this device, but how does one

> explain such things to others?

> Any positive input would be appreciated. I am not citicizing the

> device, but I would be lying if I said I was comfortable with all

> this...

> F.T. Webb

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Tom: in checking old emails fround yours just now, saved from when I was exploring QXCI. I am in natural healing from breast cancer (12 yrs remission) During my "sicky" days, I had conversation with MD in Boston who does AMAS blood work. IN the conversation, he told me that sometimes the numbers of the AntiMalignum Antibodies that they measure for cancer cells, show the patient in healing sometime in the 2 wks before they expire. He explained, they get a "high" of energy and appear to be "making it," but it is only that, the high before they leave. Maybe this is what you saw in case below?

Reiki Master Marge Lyles, LMT, FL

Tom <doctorwebb@...> wrote:

I have monitored patients making the transition from life to death. There was NO way to tell ( via scores or other data) that these patients had, in fact, died. In one case (my uncle), the scores actually went up. Seems fishy to me....There are several things about this device that disturb me. That said, I have also had a plethora of astonishing positive results as well.I am also disturbed that patients with severe pathologies and/or multiple verified carcinomas show nothing on repetetive testings that indicate that those disease states even exist.Personally, I have faith in this device, but how does one explain such things to others?Any positive input would be appreciated. I am not citicizing the device, but I would be lying if I said I was comfortable with all this...F.T.

WebbMargaret Lee "Marge" Lyles (305-888-3921 ~~ Cell: 305-588-3785) Reiki and You: Awakening the Healer Within

(An Ecumenical Guide to Energy Healing)

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What is life? Very simple yet complex compared to death. The "essence" of the self/I has always been and always will be. The human body and this existance is a visit at a motel along the journey. The main focus of many is that we make this body and our thoughts very very real and think from this existance. For example...When people are speaking of a God or higher places, they always look up, and to think of words like satan, evil, and eternal torment, they always point down. This is almost funny. This is the limitations of the mind in the bodily experience. In truth, there is no up or down. If we point down, in China, we would be pointing up lol. Ancient texts were written by humans, with the mind and knowledge of that timeframe. Fear was a wonderful tool back then. Pointing up is acknowledging the heavens (going from ancient thoughts used), and pointing down would, at least to me, represent the center of the earth; volcanic lave, flames, heat, etc. Crude,

but a very concincing hell back then. In the here and now human body, even those with no religous firm foundations know just by nature or extinct that there is more to this picture than what can be seen. They also know that there are prices to be paid for negetive actions and words. There is no excaping this. It is a universal law and they sense this. We have been given this life and this body, and it is to be praised, yet many are depressed... " I am too fat, too skinny,I have no money, etc. Where is the appreciation?. I pray someday they find it. My thoughts on the "after this life" would be that since we have eternal existance, in one way or another... and remember, I am thinking with a 21st century mind- still primitive in the spectrum of it all, It seems like a no-brainer that we should be of virtue, compassion, caring and love, and with this lifestyle and attitude, the next steps on our ladder will be joy,

bliss, awe, and even more appreciation. Who will dare say that angels, guardians, and other assorted higher beings beyond here are not watching over us and guiding us? And to think, we also can become this if we sincerely try. There are beliefs that state that there are two truths, ie. the relative and infinate truth; form is emptiness and emptiness is form, yet I ponder this- to fade into total emptiness would put one beyond the reach of helping others who are lost and suffering. Personally, I would call this selfishness. If this state can be attained, I aspire to never get there. Never. As for the death perspective, I will use a statement; "if I were to kill someone, I would be taking their body but taking my life". That sums it up easily. We think we have sufferings and countless frustrations now...trust this; it can and would get much worse. Look around yourself, we see everyday, others who look like they are

already in Heaven and others who are pretty firmly already experiencing their self-created hells. We make our choice and the proof is all around us. "Hate has never yet expelled hate. Only love can expell hate. This is the law, ancient and inexaustable" -the Buddha. Compassion To All, Randy

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Brother Randy,

I always enjoy reading your words of grand wisdom...Thank you

for your compassion and inspiration....The quote you posted at the

end from the Buddha is my most favorite, for it is simple and so Very

true! May you have a wonderful day and as always you made me laugh

too! If we point down, we are pointing at China...hehe Very true!!

Thank you again!! Namaste, LUNA

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> What is life?

> Very simple yet complex compared to death. The " essence " of the

self/I has always been and always will be. The human body and this

existance is a visit at a motel along the journey. The main focus of

many is that we make this body and our thoughts very very real and

think from this existance. For example...When people are speaking of

a God or higher places, they always look up, and to think of words

like satan, evil, and eternal torment, they always point down. This

is almost funny. This is the limitations of the mind in the bodily

experience. In truth, there is no up or down. If we point down, in

China, we would be pointing up lol. Ancient texts were written by

humans, with the mind and knowledge of that timeframe. Fear was a

wonderful tool back then. Pointing up is acknowledging the heavens

(going from ancient thoughts used), and pointing down would, at least

to me, represent the center of the earth; volcanic lave, flames,

heat, etc. Crude, but a very concincing hell

> back then.

> In the here and now human body, even those with no religous firm

foundations know just by nature or extinct that there is more to this

picture than what can be seen. They also know that there are prices

to be paid for negetive actions and words. There is no excaping this.

It is a universal law and they sense this.

> We have been given this life and this body, and it is to be

praised, yet many are depressed... " I am too fat, too skinny,I have

no money, etc. Where is the appreciation?. I pray someday they find

it.

> My thoughts on the " after this life " would be that since we have

eternal existance, in one way or another... and remember, I am

thinking with a 21st century mind- still primitive in the spectrum of

it all, It seems like a no-brainer that we should be of virtue,

compassion, caring and love, and with this lifestyle and attitude,

the next steps on our ladder will be joy, bliss, awe, and even more

appreciation. Who will dare say that angels, guardians, and other

assorted higher beings beyond here are not watching over us and

guiding us? And to think, we also can become this if we sincerely try.

> There are beliefs that state that there are two truths, ie. the

relative and infinate truth; form is emptiness and emptiness is form,

yet I ponder this- to fade into total emptiness would put one beyond

the reach of helping others who are lost and suffering. Personally, I

would call this selfishness. If this state can be attained, I aspire

to never get there. Never.

> As for the death perspective, I will use a statement; " if I were

to kill someone, I would be taking their body but taking my life " .

That sums it up easily. We think we have sufferings and countless

frustrations now...trust this; it can and would get much worse.

> Look around yourself, we see everyday, others who look like they

are already in Heaven and others who are pretty firmly already

experiencing their self-created hells. We make our choice and the

proof is all around us.

>

> " Hate has never yet expelled hate. Only love can expell hate.

This is the law, ancient and inexaustable " -the Buddha.

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> Compassion To

All,

> Randy

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today!

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