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- 5 , is not doing well at school at the moment, we live in Kent and they are dredful at statementing, we are going through the process though. I have also employed a private S/T who is FAB! so sugesstions needed please, forget what education can provide! (not a lot) what can I train myself to do that will help? thought about Teeach but no nothing about it, ABA? decided no one else is going to help him without a fight so I will do it myself. Any advice / sugestions wellcome.

>>>You could try and get on the Son Rise training I think its in Feb and Caudwell help fund a lot of families and would be great basis to build on

Mandi

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RDI

– I will help you there, Lara if you give me a ring. 01752 265085 –

I think you’re going to the meeting in May anyway, aren’t you?

Anita

just mentioned floor play being free. VB – you can buy training DVDs or I

can lend them – they’re a bit hard to use without seeing it all

actually happen but I could help you with that too. . Lara, what is

like? How verbal is he? What’s his eye contact like? Does he have

friends? If not, does he like other children and watch them? what’s

his behaviour like? What’s he like academically? SARA

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Help! not bio med

- 5 , is not doing well at school at the moment, we live in

Kent and they are dredful at statementing, we are going through the

process though. I have also employed a private S/T who is FAB! so

sugesstions needed please, forget what education can provide! (not a

lot) what can I train myself to do that will help? thought about

Teeach but no nothing about it, ABA? decided no one else is going to

help him without a fight so I will do it myself. Any advice /

sugestions wellcome.

Thank you

Lara

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Lara if has sensory issues then HANDLE would be good to learn

too, we see a fantastic therapist based in Brighton I can

give you his details if you want them. He is doing an introductory

weekend later this month, in London, again I can post details if you or

anyone else would like them

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Hi Sara

I am so deliberating about RDI too, and I know u r such a lovely u have offered to speak with me before so I hope its all right if I ring u.... Whats a good time?

Luv Caroline

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Is the school causing damage do you think? ie are the teachers shouting

at him or the kids bullying him -- can he handle the noise? Is he

learning anything academically? Is he learning bad behaviour? Edith

learned to cry all the time for instance

Sally

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> - 5 , is not doing well at school at the moment, we live in

> Kent and they are dredful at statementing, we are going through the

> process though. I have also employed a private S/T who is FAB! so

> sugesstions needed please, forget what education can provide! (not a

> lot) what can I train myself to do that will help? thought about

> Teeach but no nothing about it, ABA? decided no one else is going to

> help him without a fight so I will do it myself. Any advice /

> sugestions wellcome.

>

> Thank you

>

> Lara

>

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same position here. my boy is almost five and the nursery thought he

was tolerating the school room with 27 other kids just because he

didnt have a melt down every other minute. (he kept those for

hometime)

he learned nothing, except how to avoid being directed.

we now have him at home and are going to use sonrise.

bought the books on RDI and it makes sense, but no way we can afford

the course/consultants.

you can do all of this at home for your child. it is ALL common

sense, just a matter of knowing what the developmental stages are and

how to incorporate for your own child.

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> > - 5 , is not doing well at school at the moment, we live in

> > Kent and they are dredful at statementing, we are going through

the

> > process though. I have also employed a private S/T who is FAB! so

> > sugesstions needed please, forget what education can provide!

(not a

> > lot) what can I train myself to do that will help? thought about

> > Teeach but no nothing about it, ABA? decided no one else is going

to

> > help him without a fight so I will do it myself. Any advice /

> > sugestions wellcome.

> >

> > Thank you

> >

> > Lara

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Discrete trial work is very easy to learn and very effective. Growing

Minds use it a lot and it's quick and relatively easy to learn.

Verbal behaviour in general is far easier than strict ABA, although

ABA is now more flexible than it was. YOu can get a free phone

consult with Growing Minds - look at their web site. It's also very

effective at showing you what they already know, which is reassuring.

Steph x

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> - 5 , is not doing well at school at the moment, we live in

> Kent and they are dredful at statementing, we are going through the

> process though. I have also employed a private S/T who is FAB! so

> sugesstions needed please, forget what education can provide! (not a

> lot) what can I train myself to do that will help? thought about

> Teeach but no nothing about it, ABA? decided no one else is going to

> help him without a fight so I will do it myself. Any advice /

> sugestions wellcome.

>

> Thank you

>

> Lara

>

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Hi Lara,

We've had a lot of success with ABA but it's been very flexible and

we've worked at keeping it fun. There have certainly been elements

of other types of programme involved and I do agree with whoever

said that it's the 1:1 individualised approach that seems to

count... just a couple of thoughts:

- it's easier if you have some kind of reference (preferably a real

person) helping you through the maze of what to teach when, whatever

methods you choose to follow.

- you need whatever approach you take at home to be consistent with

school otherwise it'll be like swimming against the tide.

Sorry no absolute answers but this is just based on our own

experience.

Also - if you're thinking of taking him out of school completely -

be careful & get advice first or the LEA might claim to have no

responsibility whatsoever!

Hope this helps a little,

L.

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Hi Lara,

We've had a lot of success with ABA but it's been very flexible and

we've worked at keeping it fun. There have certainly been elements

of other types of programme involved and I do agree with whoever

said that it's the 1:1 individualised approach that seems to

count... just a couple of thoughts:

- it's easier if you have some kind of reference (preferably a real

person) helping you through the maze of what to teach when, whatever

methods you choose to follow.

- you need whatever approach you take at home to be consistent with

school otherwise it'll be like swimming against the tide.

Sorry no absolute answers but this is just based on our own

experience.

Also - if you're thinking of taking him out of school completely -

be careful & get advice first or the LEA might claim to have no

responsibility whatsoever!

Hope this helps a little,

L.

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Floortime is designed for parents to use at home. ph responds

really well to floortime techniques. the full name of the therapy is

the Developmental, Individual-difference, Relationship-based approach

(DIR), and it was developed by Dr Stanley Greenspan. His website,

icdl.com , sells a 3 part DVD parent training course, for about $70

per DVD - that's a lot less than you pay for ABA, RDI etc.

Caudwell Trust might fund RDI. I'm looking into this at the moment.

People who combine floortime with RDI and say this works really well.

I think the RDI people might be a bit sceptical about this, b/c

floortime involves following the child's lead whereas RDI stresses

having a " mentor-apprentice " relationship where the adult leads.

However, many of the actual techniques overlap, and so far I've found

that the little bit of RDI I know how to do combines easily with DIR

principles. (Anyone else here using both?)

Emma

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> In a message dated 17/01/2008 07:52:47 GMT Standard Time,

> bbrowne123@... writes:

>

> you can do all of this at home for your child. it is ALL common

> sense, just a matter of knowing what the developmental stages are and

> how to incorporate for your own child.

>

>

>

> Exactly. I think it's worthwhile looking at all the methods out

there and

> choosing what you think suits your family and your son (and your

> pocketbook!!!) the best. Most of the literature on early

intervention (and 5 is

> considered early intervention) suggests that ANY 1:1 therapy with a

good number of

> hours a week will benefit a child with autism. I don't think there

is any one

> best way to do it.

>

> Good luck with the statementing, it's such a drain.

>

> Darla

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Sara

Thats really kind of , I will call you over the weekend, havn't booked

the training yet,

Lara x

>

> RDI - I will help you there, Lara if you give me a ring. 01752 265085 -

> I think you're going to the meeting in May anyway, aren't you?

> Anita just mentioned floor play being free. VB - you can buy training

> DVDs or I can lend them - they're a bit hard to use without seeing it

> all actually happen but I could help you with that too. . Lara, what is

> like? How verbal is he? What's his eye contact like? Does he have

> friends? If not, does he like other children and watch them? what's his

> behaviour like? What's he like academically? SARA

>

> Help! not bio med

>

> - 5 , is not doing well at school at the moment, we live in

> Kent and they are dredful at statementing, we are going through the

> process though. I have also employed a private S/T who is FAB! so

> sugesstions needed please, forget what education can provide! (not a

> lot) what can I train myself to do that will help? thought about

> Teeach but no nothing about it, ABA? decided no one else is going to

> help him without a fight so I will do it myself. Any advice /

> sugestions wellcome.

>

> Thank you

>

> Lara

>

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Hi Sara

Have the rellies here for Cammys 5th Birthday party today, shame I've given up the wine cos these things are so stressful (joke!!).... I will give you a ring at the start of the week, lemme know if u too shattered that day, I find it so heart wrenching reading all ur stuff about sleep its just so terrible. People just dont realise what the Autism label involves, no way.

Lotsa Luv

Caroline

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