Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Oh, our messages are crossing paths Sally. Will you be in Guildford? I'd really like to talk to you about making sourdough. I've been postponing doing it for ages now. I do wonder thought why the gluten would damage the guts of some bu not others. Is there a bacteria that might protect us? Just as the example I gave for the Culturelle, which seems somehow to protect many people from having issues with milk (although I'm not sure what part of the milk gives the issues--it may not be the protein part). Thanks for all the sourdough/celiac/gluten references :-) Antia > > Here you are -- any old sourdough will do the trick, VSL not required > though probably good stuff anyway. Celiac disease isn't a deficiency of > bacteria -- the gluten damages the gut. > Sally > > > > There are a batch of results on pub med about the effect of sourdough > fermentation on gluten. The results are that sourdough bread is > sufficiently gluten-free to be eaten by celiacs. It's quite easy. > > I have been making sourdough bread for Edith and she really likes it. > She's also in good form at the moment. I can substitute it for bread > everywhere in her diet. If anyone on a gluten-free diet wants to try it, > the pub med results support the idea that fermentation substitutes for > gluten-free, in effect making wheat and other cereals gluten-free. > > Sourdough is the old way of making bread. A hundred years ago, possibly > 50 years ago, all bread would have been sourdough > xxSally > > Entrez PubMed Results > > Item 1 of 1 > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. Epub 2007 May > 18.Click here to read > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi? PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus- def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup? view=long & pmid=17513580> > > Substance (MeSH Keyword) > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword% 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > > LinkOut > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Ema il.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus> > > > Highly efficient gluten degradation by lactobacilli and fungal > proteases during food processing: new perspectives for celiac > disease. > > *Rizzello CG* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%20CG%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *De Angelis M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Angelis%20M%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Di Cagno R* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Di%20Cagno%20R%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Camarca A* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Camarca%20A%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Silano M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Silano%20M%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Losito I* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20I%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *De Vincenzi M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vincenzi%20M%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *De Bari MD* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari%20MD%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Palmisano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano%20F%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Maurano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%20F%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Gianfrani C* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >, > *Gobbetti M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez? Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor% 5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus >. > > Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Celiac disease isn't a deficiency of bacteria but could be a downstream consequence of it, don't you think?? In extreme form, of course, whereas simple 'gluten intolerance' is what we see in autism. Makes me wonder if (at least) one of the reasons many of our kids do not tolerate gluten is simply down to them lacking the good bacteria that ferment it and make it digestible... the peptides then go on to damage the gut and possibly enter the blood, acting as opioids... My son has had a few gluten infractions recently and seemed to tolerate it well, no skin reactions or behaviours... this wouldn't have been the case a year or so ago, the least he would have come up with was liquid bms... makes me wonder if his gut has improved enough to be able to tolerate/ferment some gluten. Natasa > > Here you are -- any old sourdough will do the trick, VSL not required > though probably good stuff anyway. Celiac disease isn't a deficiency of > bacteria -- the gluten damages the gut. > Sally > > > > There are a batch of results on pub med about the effect of sourdough > fermentation on gluten. The results are that sourdough bread is > sufficiently gluten-free to be eaten by celiacs. It's quite easy. > > I have been making sourdough bread for Edith and she really likes it. > She's also in good form at the moment. I can substitute it for bread > everywhere in her diet. If anyone on a gluten-free diet wants to try it, > the pub med results support the idea that fermentation substitutes for > gluten-free, in effect making wheat and other cereals gluten-free. > > Sourdough is the old way of making bread. A hundred years ago, possibly > 50 years ago, all bread would have been sourdough > xxSally > > Entrez PubMed Results > > Item 1 of 1 > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. Epub 2007 May > 18.Click here to read > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=Abst\ ractPlus-def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlooku\ p?view=long & pmid=17513580> > > Substance (MeSH Keyword) > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & C\ md=Link & LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%2\ 8MeSH%20Keyword%29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.Email\ Report.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > > LinkOut > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & Term\ ToSearch=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus> > > > Highly efficient gluten degradation by lactobacilli and fungal > proteases during food processing: new perspectives for celiac > disease. > > *Rizzello CG* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22R\ izzello%20CG%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto\ r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *De Angelis M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22D\ e%20Angelis%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Di Cagno R* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22D\ i%20Cagno%20R%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelect\ or.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Camarca A* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22C\ amarca%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.\ Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Silano M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22S\ ilano%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.P\ ubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Losito I* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22L\ osito%20I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.P\ ubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *De Vincenzi M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22D\ e%20Vincenzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSel\ ector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *De Bari MD* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22D\ e%20Bari%20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelect\ or.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Palmisano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22P\ almisano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto\ r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Maurano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M\ aurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.\ Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Gianfrani C* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G\ ianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto\ r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, > *Gobbetti M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G\ obbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector\ ..Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>. > > Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Sara, sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you. I've been thinking how to go about this. I think the best thing is to make the starter and then have a recipe to make it into bread. Making the starter takes a long time but very little effort. You need a bag of stoneground wholemeal rye flour. I suggest using rye because the gluten is a different type from wheat gluten, it doesn't stretch and catch the air so you don't need to knead it and degrading it (as the sourdough does) doesn't stop it rising. It doesn't rise much but pentosans in the flour catch the air made by the yeast and raise the loaf. So, the starter. Take 25g of flour and 50g of warm water. Mix and leave in a warm place. I leave mine on top of the boiler so its warm but not hot and I put a dry, clean cloth over it to keep out flies and keep in a bit of damp. You add rye flour and water in the same proportions for four days. By the fifth day, it should be bubbly and lo, yeast has found it. It really is that simple. The only possible complication is that you might like to leave the water in the daylight for 24 hours or so before you use it to allow the chlorine to dissipate. Chlorinated water is supposed to put bugs off and we want to encourage them. I suggest that you do that bit and when (to your surprise) lots of wild yeasts are throwing a party in your floury water, we will consider what to do next. xx sally Sass and Rem wrote: > > Sally, have you got a recipe please? Sara > > > > * sourdough bread deactivates gluten > > > > Here you are -- any old sourdough will do the trick, VSL not required > though probably good stuff anyway. Celiac disease isn't a deficiency of > bacteria -- the gluten damages the gut. > Sally > > There are a batch of results on pub med about the effect of sourdough > fermentation on gluten. The results are that sourdough bread is > sufficiently gluten-free to be eaten by celiacs. It's quite easy. > > I have been making sourdough bread for Edith and she really likes it. > She's also in good form at the moment. I can substitute it for bread > everywhere in her diet. If anyone on a gluten-free diet wants to try it, > the pub med results support the idea that fermentation substitutes for > gluten-free, in effect making wheat and other cereals gluten-free. > > Sourdough is the old way of making bread. A hundred years ago, possibly > 50 years ago, all bread would have been sourdough > xxSally > > Entrez PubMed Results > > Item 1 of 1 > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. Epub 2007 May > 18.Click here to read > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580 > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580>> > > > Substance (MeSH Keyword) > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>, > > > LinkOut > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus>> > > Highly efficient gluten degradation by lactobacilli and fungal > proteases during food processing: new perspectives for celiac > disease. > > *Rizzello CG* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%\ 20CG%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%\ 20CG%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>>, > *De Angelis M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Ange\ lis%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Ange\ lis%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus>>, > *Di Cagno R* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Di%20Cagn\ o%20R%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Di%20Cagn\ o%20R%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus>>, > *Camarca A* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Camarca%2\ 0A%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Camarca%2\ 0A%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus>>, > *Silano M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Silano%20\ M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Silano%20\ M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus>>, > *Losito I* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20\ I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20\ I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus>>, > *De Vincenzi M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus>>, > *De Bari MD* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus>>, > *Palmisano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>>, > *Maurano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus>>, > *Gianfrani C* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani\ %20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani\ %20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>>, > *Gobbetti M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%\ 20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstra\ ctPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%\ 20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstra\ ctPlus>>. > > Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Sorry for butting in on Sara's question, but thanks so much for explaining this in such detail Sally. You mentioned using kefir before. Would someone just throw some kefir into the mix? Or would that change the procedure entirely? Also, this is a stupid question I'm sure, but do you measure the flour and water on a scale? And if you do, where do you buy the right kind of scale? In Canada all recipes are given in cups. Gratefully, Anita > > Hi Sara, sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you. I've been thinking > how to go about this. I think the best thing is to make the starter and > then have a recipe to make it into bread. Making the starter takes a > long time but very little effort. You need a bag of stoneground > wholemeal rye flour. I suggest using rye because the gluten is a > different type from wheat gluten, it doesn't stretch and catch the air > so you don't need to knead it and degrading it (as the sourdough does) > doesn't stop it rising. It doesn't rise much but pentosans in the flour > catch the air made by the yeast and raise the loaf. > > So, the starter. Take 25g of flour and 50g of warm water. Mix and leave > in a warm place. I leave mine on top of the boiler so its warm but not > hot and I put a dry, clean cloth over it to keep out flies and keep in a > bit of damp. You add rye flour and water in the same proportions for > four days. By the fifth day, it should be bubbly and lo, yeast has found > it. It really is that simple. The only possible complication is that you > might like to leave the water in the daylight for 24 hours or so before > you use it to allow the chlorine to dissipate. Chlorinated water is > supposed to put bugs off and we want to encourage them. I suggest that > you do that bit and when (to your surprise) lots of wild yeasts are > throwing a party in your floury water, we will consider what to do next. > > xx sally > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Anita I can't answer your question about the kefir but yes we would measure the flour on kitchen scales, and water or other liquids in a measuring jug. Most supermarkets sell these things, also shops like marks & spencer and woolworths Hope this helps x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Anita, I would buy a scale. I've got a US cookery book that nearly drives me round the bend because it measures in volume and I'm trying to measure by weight. For water in metric weight and volume are the same but for everything else they are different. Otherwise just use the proportions I guess -- one measure of flour to two of water but the amounts that I am suggesting are quite small. Also the flour is heavier so a volume of flour will weigh more than the same volume of water. I would honestly buy a scale to use European recipes. Yes, you could use kefir to start it off or to make sure it starts. The good thing is that you keep using the starter (or variations of it) so a) you don't have to go through this process again and whatever you use at the beginning will adapt to your kitchen and the available domestic yeast. I try not to use kefir so that Edith is getting a variation in her microbe in take but whatever you use, over time, the bugs will change to suit your kitchen xx Sally Anita wrote: > > Sorry for butting in on Sara's question, but thanks so much for > explaining this in such detail Sally. You mentioned using kefir > before. Would someone just throw some kefir into the mix? Or would > that change the procedure entirely? > > Also, this is a stupid question I'm sure, but do you measure the > flour and water on a scale? And if you do, where do you buy the > right kind of scale? In Canada all recipes are given in cups. > > Gratefully, > Anita > > > > > > Hi Sara, sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you. I've been > thinking > > how to go about this. I think the best thing is to make the starter > and > > then have a recipe to make it into bread. Making the starter takes > a > > long time but very little effort. You need a bag of stoneground > > wholemeal rye flour. I suggest using rye because the gluten is a > > different type from wheat gluten, it doesn't stretch and catch the > air > > so you don't need to knead it and degrading it (as the sourdough > does) > > doesn't stop it rising. It doesn't rise much but pentosans in the > flour > > catch the air made by the yeast and raise the loaf. > > > > So, the starter. Take 25g of flour and 50g of warm water. Mix and > leave > > in a warm place. I leave mine on top of the boiler so its warm but > not > > hot and I put a dry, clean cloth over it to keep out flies and keep > in a > > bit of damp. You add rye flour and water in the same proportions > for > > four days. By the fifth day, it should be bubbly and lo, yeast has > found > > it. It really is that simple. The only possible complication is > that you > > might like to leave the water in the daylight for 24 hours or so > before > > you use it to allow the chlorine to dissipate. Chlorinated water is > > supposed to put bugs off and we want to encourage them. I suggest > that > > you do that bit and when (to your surprise) lots of wild yeasts are > > throwing a party in your floury water, we will consider what to do > next. > > > > xx sally > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 14/01/2008 17:39 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Thanks Sally, I really appreciate this. Sleep is bad here so it actually looks like a very complicated laboratory experiment at the moment but I’ll definitely do it when I’ve had some sleep. SARA -----Original Message----- From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe [mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of Eva family Sent: 15 January 2008 19:11 To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Subject: Re: sourdough bread deactivates gluten Hi Sara, sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you. I've been thinking how to go about this. I think the best thing is to make the starter and then have a recipe to make it into bread. Making the starter takes a long time but very little effort. You need a bag of stoneground wholemeal rye flour. I suggest using rye because the gluten is a different type from wheat gluten, it doesn't stretch and catch the air so you don't need to knead it and degrading it (as the sourdough does) doesn't stop it rising. It doesn't rise much but pentosans in the flour catch the air made by the yeast and raise the loaf. So, the starter. Take 25g of flour and 50g of warm water. Mix and leave in a warm place. I leave mine on top of the boiler so its warm but not hot and I put a dry, clean cloth over it to keep out flies and keep in a bit of damp. You add rye flour and water in the same proportions for four days. By the fifth day, it should be bubbly and lo, yeast has found it. It really is that simple. The only possible complication is that you might like to leave the water in the daylight for 24 hours or so before you use it to allow the chlorine to dissipate. Chlorinated water is supposed to put bugs off and we want to encourage them. I suggest that you do that bit and when (to your surprise) lots of wild yeasts are throwing a party in your floury water, we will consider what to do next. xx sally Sass and Rem wrote: > > Sally, have you got a recipe please? Sara > > > > * sourdough bread deactivates gluten > > > > Here you are -- any old sourdough will do the trick, VSL not required > though probably good stuff anyway. Celiac disease isn't a deficiency of > bacteria -- the gluten damages the gut. > Sally > > There are a batch of results on pub med about the effect of sourdough > fermentation on gluten. The results are that sourdough bread is > sufficiently gluten-free to be eaten by celiacs. It's quite easy. > > I have been making sourdough bread for Edith and she really likes it. > She's also in good form at the moment. I can substitute it for bread > everywhere in her diet. If anyone on a gluten-free diet wants to try it, > the pub med results support the idea that fermentation substitutes for > gluten-free, in effect making wheat and other cereals gluten-free. > > Sourdough is the old way of making bread. A hundred years ago, possibly > 50 years ago, all bread would have been sourdough > xxSally > > Entrez PubMed Results > > Item 1 of 1 > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. 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itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>, > > > LinkOut > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>> > > Highly efficient gluten degradation by lactobacilli and fungal > proteases during food processing: new perspectives for celiac > disease. > > *Rizzello CG* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%20CG%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%20CG%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>, > *De Angelis M* > > 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*Maurano F* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>, > *Gianfrani C* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>, > *Gobbetti M* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>. > > Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 It's really easy and the mixture doesn't jump about or talk xx sally Sass and Rem wrote: > > Thanks Sally, I really appreciate this. Sleep is bad here so it > actually looks like a very complicated laboratory experiment at the > moment but I’ll definitely do it when I’ve had some sleep. SARA > > * sourdough bread deactivates gluten > > > > > > > > Here you are -- any old sourdough will do the trick, VSL not required > > though probably good stuff anyway. Celiac disease isn't a deficiency of > > bacteria -- the gluten damages the gut. > > Sally > > > > There are a batch of results on pub med about the effect of sourdough > > fermentation on gluten. The results are that sourdough bread is > > sufficiently gluten-free to be eaten by celiacs. It's quite easy. > > > > I have been making sourdough bread for Edith and she really likes it. > > She's also in good form at the moment. I can substitute it for bread > > everywhere in her diet. If anyone on a gluten-free diet wants to try it, > > the pub med results support the idea that fermentation substitutes for > > gluten-free, in effect making wheat and other cereals gluten-free. > > > > Sourdough is the old way of making bread. A hundred years ago, possibly > > 50 years ago, all bread would have been sourdough > > xxSally > > > > Entrez PubMed Results > > > > Item 1 of 1 > > > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. 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itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20\ I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20\ I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20\ I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus>>>, > > *De Vincenzi M* > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus>>>, > > *De Bari MD* > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus>>>, > > *Palmisano F* > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>>>, > > *Maurano F* > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus>>>, > > *Gianfrani C* > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani\ %20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & 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itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstra\ ctPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%\ 20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstra\ ctPlus>>>. > > > > Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 This is what I wrote to the list If you are going to try it I hope it works xx fingers crossed. Let us know how you get on. Sally There are a batch of results on pub med about the effect of sourdough fermentation on gluten. The results are that sourdough bread is sufficiently gluten-free to be eaten by celiacs. It's quite easy. I have been making sourdough bread for Edith and she really likes it. She's also in good form at the moment. I can substitute it for bread everywhere in her diet. If anyone on a gluten-free diet wants to try it, the pub med results support the idea that fermentation substitutes for gluten-free, in effect making wheat and other cereals gluten-free. Sourdough is the old way of making bread. A hundred years ago, possibly 50 years ago, all bread would have been sourdough xxSally Entrez PubMed Results Item 1 of 1 *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. Epub 2007 May 18.Click here to read <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580> Substance (MeSH Keyword) <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>, LinkOut <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus> Highly efficient gluten degradation by lactobacilli and fungal proteases during food processing: new perspectives for celiac disease. *Rizzello CG* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%\ 20CG%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>, *De Angelis M* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Ange\ lis%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus>, *Di Cagno R* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Di%20Cagn\ o%20R%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus>, *Camarca A* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Camarca%2\ 0A%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus>, *Silano M* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Silano%20\ M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus>, *Losito I* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Losito%20\ I%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstract\ Plus>, *De Vincenzi M* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Vinc\ enzi%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVA\ bstractPlus>, *De Bari MD* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22De%20Bari\ %20MD%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbst\ ractPlus>, *Palmisano F* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Palmisano\ %20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>, *Maurano F* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Maurano%2\ 0F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstrac\ tPlus>, *Gianfrani C* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gianfrani\ %20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstr\ actPlus>, *Gobbetti M* <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Gobbetti%\ 20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAbstra\ ctPlus>. Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University of Bari, Bari, Italy. Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to eliminate gluten toxicity. PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Mm I know what you mean. Edith used to eat sandwiches in moments and still be hungry. Now she has to work at eating -- which is more restful and gives the rest of us a chance to eat too. I'm really glad it's still working. I've been worrying about you and feeling guilty in advance (if you know what I mean) xx Sally Sass and Rem wrote: > > He’s still great! I’m really pleased with the bread. It is such a > pleasure to see him actually really enjoy his food. He has to really > gnaw at it too which I love watching. V. glad I tried it, thank you Sally. > > * sourdough bread deactivates gluten > > > > Sara has been giving Tom sourdough for a few weeks now. Maybe she will > chime in with her findings. Mine are not relevant because Edith has not > gone GF to sourdough. She's gone from bread to sourdough bread. > > xxSally > > Entrez PubMed Results > > Item 1 of 1 > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. Epub 2007 May > 18.Click here to read > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580 > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580 > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/fref.fcgi?PrId=3051 & itool=AbstractPlus\ -def & uid=17513580 & db=pubmed & url=http://aem.asm.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long & pmid\ =17513580>>> > > > Substance (MeSH Keyword) > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pcsubstance & DbFrom=pubmed & Cmd=Link & \ LinkName=pubmed_pcsubstance_mesh & LinkReadableName=Substance%20%28MeSH%20Keyword%\ 29 & IdsFromResult=17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSele\ ctor.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>>, > > > LinkOut > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Cmd=ShowLinkOut & Db=pubmed & TermToSearch\ =17513580 & ordinalpos=1 & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_HVAb\ stractPlus>>> > > Highly efficient gluten degradation by lactobacilli and fungal > proteases during food processing: new perspectives for celiac > disease. > > *Rizzello CG* > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22Rizzello%\ 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Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Well I'm glad you weren't more cautious. Tom definitely had withdrawal symptoms as described by Mr Shattock when we took him off gluten. The funny thing is though, that not all the flour is made into sour dough, is it? there's the starter/ leaven and then the production dough - all fermented or whatever but then there's the final dough which isn't. I wonder why that's ok. Sara x * sourdough bread deactivates gluten > > > > Sara has been giving Tom sourdough for a few weeks now. Maybe she will > chime in with her findings. Mine are not relevant because Edith has not > gone GF to sourdough. She's gone from bread to sourdough bread. > > xxSally > > Entrez PubMed Results > > Item 1 of 1 > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. 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In this work, we used a new mixture of > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 I know what you mean. I'm making one now. I had the 150g starter so I added 250g of new flour to make production sourdough and let that sour/ferment for 24 hours. I took out 150g the new starter and added 450g new flour to the remainder. I kneaded that for 10 mins and left it to rise for 8 hours (from 10am till just now) and then I formed it into a loaf shape and dropped it in a tin for another couple of hours. At 8pm I hope to bake it. So 250g has fermented for 24 hours and 450g for probably 10. The sourdough starter was so sour that it was hard to taste it without pulling a face, that soured the bigger lump of dough -- and then one hopes, that bigger lump soured a whole loaf. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as it were. That's why I'm glad Tom is doing fine. Sally Sass and Rem wrote: > > Well I'm glad you weren't more cautious. Tom definitely had withdrawal > symptoms as described by Mr Shattock when we took him off gluten. The > funny thing is though, that not all the flour is made into sour dough, > is it? there's the starter/ leaven and then the production dough - all > fermented or whatever but then there's the final dough which isn't. I > wonder why that's ok. Sara x > > * sourdough bread deactivates > gluten > > > > > > > > Sara has been giving Tom sourdough for a few weeks now. Maybe she will > > chime in with her findings. Mine are not relevant because Edith has > not > > gone GF to sourdough. She's gone from bread to sourdough bread. > > > > xxSally > > > > Entrez PubMed Results > > > > Item 1 of 1 > > > > *1: *Appl Environ Microbiol. 2007 Jul;73(14):4499-507. 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<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22P> > almisano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto > r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>>, > > *Maurano F* > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M> > aurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector. > Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M> > aurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector. > Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus> > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M> > aurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector. > Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22M> > aurano%20F%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector. > Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>>, > > *Gianfrani C* > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > ianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto > r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > ianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto > r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus> > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > ianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto > r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > ianfrani%20C%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelecto > r.Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>>, > > *Gobbetti M* > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > obbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector > .Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > obbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector > .Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus> > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > obbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector > .Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed & Cmd=Search & Term=%22G> > obbetti%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D & itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector > .Pubmed_HVAbstractPlus>>>. > > > > Department of Plant Protection and Applied Microbiology, University > > of Bari, Bari, Italy. > > > > Presently, the only effective treatment for celiac disease is a > > life-long gluten-free diet. In this work, we used a new mixture of > > selected sourdough lactobacilli and fungal proteases to eliminate > > the toxicity of wheat flour during long-time fermentation. > > Immunological (R5 antibody-based sandwich and competitive > > enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay [ELISA] and R5 antibody-based > > Western blot), two-dimensional electrophoresis, and mass > > spectrometry (matrix-assisted laser desorption ionization-time of > > flight, strong-cation-exchange-liquid chromatography/capillary > > liquid chromatography-electrospray ionization-quadrupole-time of > > flight [sCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF], and high-pressure liquid > > chromatography-electrospray ionization-ion trap mass spectrometry) > > analyses were used to determine the gluten concentration. Assays > > based on the proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells > > (PBMCs) and gamma interferon production by PBMCs and intestinal > > T-cell lines (iTCLs) from 12 celiac disease patients were used to > > determine the protein toxicity of the pepsin-trypsin digests from > > fermented wheat dough (sourdough). As determined by R5-based > > sandwich and competitive ELISAs, the residual concentration of > > gluten in sourdough was 12 ppm. Albumins, globulins, and gliadins > > were completely hydrolyzed, while ca. 20% of glutenins persisted. > > Low-molecular-weight epitopes were not detectable by > > SCX-LC/CapLC-ESI-Q-TOF mass spectrometry and R5-based Western blot > > analyses. The kinetics of the hydrolysis of the 33-mer by > > lactobacilli were highly efficient. All proteins extracted from > > sourdough activated PBMCs and induced gamma interferon production at > > levels comparable to the negative control. None of the iTCLs > > demonstrated immunoreactivity towards pepsin-trypsin digests. Bread > > making was standardized to show the suitability of the detoxified > > wheat flour. Food processing by selected sourdough lactobacilli and > > fungal proteases may be considered an efficient approach to > > eliminate gluten toxicity. > > > > PMID: 17513580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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