Re: subject switch to vinpocetine

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Thanks for asking it is going VERY well - won't go in to much detail for

fear of jinxing it as very early days. The hyperness lasted for two or

three days only (and not throughout the day, he only had several

'spells' per day). We have not done anything in terms of antifungals

apart from upping probiotic so now not sure it was because of yeast...

and as you say Ginko caused the same thing on Edith straight away - this

points to other things causing hyperness, doesn't it?

On the other hand Luka's tongue is quite white, and he was waking up a

lot on the first night after we started ... so not sure, will see... but

he is doing so well that I'm almost inclined to think " if it IS causing

yeast, sod it, will deal with that later as it is not affecting his

behaviour or cognition now " ...

interestingly enough we saw similar short-term hyperness after starting

TMG recently, which was followed by some massive improvements in speech

and general.

Natasa x

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 14/02/2008 07:41:08 GMT Standard Time,

> > > > bobsallyeva@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm

> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm>

> > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm

> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm>>

> > > >

> > > > /He said: " The fitness, lifestyles, diets and dietary control of

> > > > long-distance runners is likely to be substantially different

from

> > > > those of the general population - and we know from other work

that

> > > > people with low Body Mass Index (BMI) have very different gut

> > > > microflora to high BMI individuals, as this relates both to diet

and

> > > > obesity. /

> > > >

> > > > >>>Yes because the obese people are mineral deficient with a gut

> > full

> > > > of yeast and backed up poop that drives them to keep on eating

sugar

> > > > and carbs and so the vicious cycle goes on - DUH - we've all

watched

> > > > Gillian Mc

> > > >

> > > > Mandi x

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[Guest guest]

there's a description by DeFelice in one of her books about how

she felt when her constant headache went away -- and she says it was so

strange to do things without pain that she had done all her life with

pain, that she did them several times and how this must have looked very

strange to on-lookers, who might well have concluded that things were

going wrong. When people can't talk and explain it is very difficult

sometimes to know if changes are making things better or worse

xx Sally

natasa778 wrote:

>

> Thanks for asking it is going VERY well - won't go in to much detail for

> fear of jinxing it as very early days. The hyperness lasted for two or

> three days only (and not throughout the day, he only had several

> 'spells' per day). We have not done anything in terms of antifungals

> apart from upping probiotic so now not sure it was because of yeast...

> and as you say Ginko caused the same thing on Edith straight away - this

> points to other things causing hyperness, doesn't it?

>

> On the other hand Luka's tongue is quite white, and he was waking up a

> lot on the first night after we started ... so not sure, will see... but

> he is doing so well that I'm almost inclined to think " if it IS causing

> yeast, sod it, will deal with that later as it is not affecting his

> behaviour or cognition now " ...

>

> interestingly enough we saw similar short-term hyperness after starting

> TMG recently, which was followed by some massive improvements in speech

> and general.

>

> Natasa x

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 14/02/2008 07:41:08 GMT Standard Time,

> > > > > bobsallyeva@ writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm>

> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm>>

> > > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm>

> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7243006.stm>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > /He said: " The fitness, lifestyles, diets and dietary control of

> > > > > long-distance runners is likely to be substantially different

> from

> > > > > those of the general population - and we know from other work

> that

> > > > > people with low Body Mass Index (BMI) have very different gut

> > > > > microflora to high BMI individuals, as this relates both to diet

> and

> > > > > obesity. /

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>Yes because the obese people are mineral deficient with a gut

> > > full

> > > > > of yeast and backed up poop that drives them to keep on eating

> sugar

> > > > > and carbs and so the vicious cycle goes on - DUH - we've all

> watched

> > > > > Gillian Mc

> > > > >

> > > > > Mandi x

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date:

> > > 11/02/2008 17:28

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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