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- Ours said that & we did the same as Steph :)

Peta - As far as I know, none of us live in Chelsea and Westminster

thats why it has to go through the PCT.

Write them a letter about your sons pain and that you cant stand it

any more, or call your GP, start crying etc & make sure you do your

dam best to get the app. Put the pressure on.

Lara x

> > >

> > > Hi all I have received a letter for my first appointment with Dr

> > Fell,

> > > but am a bit worried that the letter says " You have an

> appointment

> > to

> > > see a member of the Paediatric Gastroenterology team lead by Dr J

> > Fell "

> > > and that I wont get to see the man himself. This presumably is

> > > standard wording, has anybody referred to him actually seen

> someone

> > > else, just wondering if I should be phoning them insisting we see

> > the

> > > man himself, dont want to be a nuisance before I even get there

> > > x

> > > PS The appt is for 14th Dec, so he must have got through his

> waiting

> > > list quickly

> > >

> >

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She's ok but probably doesn't like me now plus she talks to my old

paed ( who is evil). She says lots of kids have bowel problems and

that's the way it is.

She's not interested in diet, his improvements, basically she just

follows the party line.

Thanks i will tell her that info.

Peta x-

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Mum231ASD@... wrote:

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>

> In a message dated 22/11/2007 17:43:34 GMT Standard Time,

> peta3366@... writes:

>

> I have just had an emotional phone call with my paed about

referral

> to DR Fell. She wants to refer me locally and I said they would

just

> say that Charlie is fine rather than investigating. She said she

> would try but had to go to her business manager and the PCT. I

live

> in East Sussex and the PCT has never said yes to anything yet.

> She asked if I could give any info about Dr Fell as to why he

would

> be the best person to see Charlie. Any ideas?

>

>

> >>Because he ignores the fact the child has autism and

investigates

> appropriately based on what he sees in the child.

>

> This is way different from GI's who see autism first and feel

bowel issues

> are too 'political' to deal with.

>

> Dr Fell will NOT discuss autism with you, its not what he is

interested in,

> just bowels, in essence he treats the child not the diagnosis -

and he's

> probably the only one in the country so no other GI will do

>

> Is this paed a nice lady?

>

> Mandi x

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Has he put your son on pentasa Steph? sorry if you have already

posted this - I'm in a bit of a muddle. And if so how is he doing?

Peta---

In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " stephaniesirr "

wrote:

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> Yes Mandi is right, he's not that interested in autism, he's just

> seeing a lot of it in his waiting room, becoming an expert by proxy.

> But he does pretty much acknowledge autistic enterocolitis, which is

> now going to be a broader term to cover the whole area of course. I

> wish they'd hurry up

>

> Steph x

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi all I have received a letter for my first

appointment with

> > > Dr

> > > > > > Fell,

> > > > > > > but am a bit worried that the letter says " You have an

> > > > > appointment

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > see a member of the Paediatric Gastroenterology team

lead by

> > > Dr J

> > > > > > Fell "

> > > > > > > and that I wont get to see the man himself. This

presumably

> > > is

> > > > > > > standard wording, has anybody referred to him actually

seen

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > else, just wondering if I should be phoning them

insisting we

> > > see

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > man himself, dont want to be a nuisance before I even

get

> > > there

> > > > > > > x

> > > > > > > PS The appt is for 14th Dec, so he must have got

through his

> > > > > waiting

> > > > > > > list quickly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I think Dr Heusckel could refer you. Ask him for a second opinion and

when he asks where say ............C & W?

Sally

Mum231ASD@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 22/11/2007 17:43:34 GMT Standard Time,

> peta3366yahoo (DOT) co.uk writes:

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> The thing is my last paed referred me to Dr Heusckel at the Royal

> Free and i don't think the PCT were involved so why is this

> different? Do you think that maybe Dr heusckel could refer me?

>

> >>probably because they (the DHA/PCT) have a block contract with the

> Royal Free. C & W probably means cost per case contract and in that case

> they look at the referral differently

>

> Mandi x

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Hi

All,

Can

anyone tell me how Dr Fell helps exactly? Does he do endoscopies? What kind of

drugs/supps he prescribes?

Would we

be better seeing Wakefield’s

friend in instead of Dr Fell?

My

little one started complaining about painful stomach so I am considering all

options.

Thanks in

advance.

Remis

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In terms of recognising the gastro problems specific to autism, might

be quicker with Arthur Krigsman or Federico Balzola. However, Dr Fell

is a good doctor and will prescribe similar treatment if he thinks

it's necessary - endoscopies etc. THe NHS does not seem to prescribe

granular Pentasa so if your child can't swallow tabs, you would get

Salofalk but it's the same generic drug. I like Dr Fell but should

add the caveat that he is now secondarily examining the slides that

Federico created. THe gastro in Nottingham said " no need for

treatment " , Dr Fell said " I'd like to see them because Tom presents

externally with digestive problems " and now we're in limbo waiting for

the result. This is a scope done in JULY!!! Meanwhile we saw

at Bradstreets clinic on Monday, and left with a prescription

for every thing Federico had recommended which was then filled at

Walgreens for the princely sum of £12!!! (OK, Bradstreet is in

Florida, but we were there anyway for Growing Minds)

So, I'll let you know how we get on but Dr Fell seems a sound and

informed person who has little interest in autism per se but clearly

knows that many autistic people are affected by a generic inflammation

that permeates the whole digestive tract.

Steph x

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can anyone tell me how Dr Fell helps exactly? Does he do endoscopies?

> What kind of drugs/supps he prescribes?

> Would we be better seeing Wakefield's friend in instead of Dr Fell?

>

> My little one started complaining about painful stomach so I am

> considering all options.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Remis

>

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Steph,

As per below….

Meanwhile we saw

at Bradstreets clinic

on Monday, and left with a prescription

for every thing Federico had recommended which was

then filled at

Walgreens for the princely sum of £12!!!

Do you think it helped? Did it

subside? Is it more under control now with less flare ups? I feel that if we

could get that under control with Tom all the chelation

business will be much quicker and more efficient.

Thanks

Remis

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From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 05

December 2007

19:24

To:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject:

Re: Dr Fell

In terms of recognising the gastro problems specific to autism, might

be quicker with Arthur Krigsman or Federico Balzola. However, Dr Fell

is a good doctor and will prescribe similar treatment if he thinks

it's necessary - endoscopies etc. THe NHS does not seem to prescribe

granular Pentasa so if your child can't swallow tabs, you would get

Salofalk but it's the same generic drug. I like Dr Fell but should

add the caveat that he is now secondarily examining the slides that

Federico created. THe gastro in Nottingham said " no need for

treatment " , Dr Fell said " I'd like to see them because Tom presents

externally with digestive problems " and now we're in limbo waiting for

the result. This is a scope done in JULY!!! (OK, Bradstreet is in

Florida, but we were there anyway for

Growing Minds)

So, I'll let you know how we get on but Dr Fell seems a sound and

informed person who has little interest in autism per

se but clearly

knows that many autistic people are affected by a

generic inflammation

that permeates the whole digestive tract.

Steph x

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can anyone tell me how Dr Fell helps exactly? Does he do endoscopies?

> What kind of drugs/supps he prescribes?

> Would we be better seeing Wakefield's friend in instead of Dr Fell?

>

> My little one started complaining about painful stomach so I am

> considering all options.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Remis

>

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Will post more later, but he has prescribed us medication for reflux

and bowel inflammation, thanks for all your posts, I am clearing his

bowels this w / end so have not been giving him medication for bowel

inflammation, but will start again and will also start on the relux

meds as well, we too were advised to start with reflux meds first then

introduce bowel inflamation, we need a bowel yahoo group.

Celia, I just hadn't realised you knew all this, love to you both

Lara

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Hi we had a second app with Dr Fell last Friday and he x-rayed

Charlie and confirmed he has constipation and I think he said " baggy

bowel " ( after a colon transit test).

Anyway he said he isn't that bad and was talking about laxitives but

I said I wanted to get to the route of the problem which has gone on

for 51/2 years. So he is going to do an endoscopy and I really

didn 't have to fight for it - I was amazed. I thanked him for being

the first dr that Charlie has seen on the NHS that has listened to me

and is going to do something.

Peta

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>

> Hi

> Our daughter was scoped (endoscopy and colonoscopy) last week by Dr

Fell. We have found him to be very sympathetic to Sofia's health

issues and very willing to listen and take note of our concerns about

her yeast etc. He did not find anything during the scope or in the

biopsies. He said that when that happens and the child is often

getting loaded, he would usually conclude that it is a problem with

bowel motility or irritable bowel syndrome. He was not very keen on

testing gut permeability as he said it was no reliable test for this.

> I also found that Sofia's behaviour imporved a lot on the days

following the scope. She reacted to the biopsy to develop a very high

fever (apparently that happens sometimes when the bacteria in the gut

is disturbed) and during this time she was more alert and responsive

than she has been since she first regressed into autism. I think the

improvement in behaviour was due to the fasting beforehand and it has

made me seriously consider trying an elimination diet for her as I

think something in the current GFCF diet does not suit her.

> Rabab

>

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> To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe@...: Moroza-@...: Fri, 7 Mar 2008

14:41:00 +0000Subject: RE: Dr Fell

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> We've just come back from Tom's endoscopy. I don't think he does an

intestinal permeability test. He doesn't do the scoping so we didn't

see him yesterday and so I didn't have any discussion about

constipation and yeast. Doctor Fell was careful to tell us that there

was no link between autism and gut disorders. He seems nervous that

so many patients with autism from all over the country are coming to

see him. he looks at their gastro problems and ignores the autism and

investigates/ treats accordingly. I don't think he has any views that

are different from mainstream except that he is helping our kids.

> I was very nervous about Tom having a general anaesthetic and sort

of expected a really bad reaction but Tom seemed to wake up from the

anaesthetic tons better!!!! That was yesterday and today he is the

best he's ever been. What could that be? Pain relief? Oxygen? They

didn't see anything at all down there by the way,

> SARA

>

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> Hi has anyone been to see Dr Fell we are seeing him tomorrow. Does

he do an intestinal permebilty test. Has anyones children been

scoped by Dr Fell? Does he agree that constipation can be caused by

yeast?Would be grateful for any helpthanksdave

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[mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of stephaniesirr

Sent: 09 March 2008 18:31

To:

Autism-Biomedical-Europe

Subject:

Re: Dr Fell

He is treating our Tom but his views on the slides of Tom's gut

differed from those of Federico Balzola. SO he is treating him more

because Tom is in obvious pain than because his medical view is that

the slides are an issue. He thought one slide looks dodgy but only

marginally.

this is why we do need to be very careful to take our kids because

they have gut issues, not because they have autism. It may be

bleedin' obvious that autism and the gut are linked but I would hate

to put him off treating children for fear of becoming the next AW.

OUr view is that Tom has a lowgrade, chronic inflammation probably

throughout his body - but certainly gut throughout and maybe brain.

Nobody in teh current NHS Is going to be queueing up to prove the link

with this kind of wandering, low grade but painful condition, which

seems to stop all gut motility in its tracks. This is why we should

all independently approach our MPs if this is an issue for us. I got

a sympathetic hearing from mine

Huge sigh!

Steph

>

> We've just come back from Tom's endoscopy. I don't think he does an

> intestinal permeability test. He doesn't do the scoping so we didn't see

> him yesterday and so I didn't have any discussion about constipation and

> yeast. Doctor Fell was careful to tell us that there was no link between

> autism and gut disorders. He seems nervous that so many patients with

> autism from all over the country are coming to see him. he looks at

> their gastro problems and ignores the autism and investigates/ treats

> accordingly. I don't think he has any views that are different from

> mainstream except that he is helping our kids.

> I was very nervous about Tom having a general anaesthetic and sort of

> expected a really bad reaction but Tom seemed to wake up from the

> anaesthetic tons better!!!! That was yesterday and today he is the best

> he's ever been. What could that be? Pain relief? Oxygen? They didn't see

> anything at all down there by the way,

> SARA

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> Dr Fell

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> Hi has anyone been to see Dr Fell we are seeing him tomorrow. Does he

> do an intestinal permebilty test. Has anyones children been scoped by

> Dr Fell? Does he agree that constipation can be caused by yeast?

> Would be grateful for any help

> thanks

> dave

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Dave

Go carefull with Dr Fell, he is a good gastro & we need to keep him

treating our childrens bowels. He will not test the gut it is not his

job, he will not advise about yeast it is not his job, he is purely a

gastro. He is not an autism specialist. He will take medical history

& during the consult will look at your child's tummy. It is up to him

what action he wants to take next depending on your child's bowel

history. So forget the autism while you are there, get that bowel

sorted as well as you can.

intestinal permebilty tests can be done with IDWL or the french lab.

Lara

> >

> > We've just come back from Tom's endoscopy. I don't think he does an

> > intestinal permeability test. He doesn't do the scoping so we

didn't see

> > him yesterday and so I didn't have any discussion about

constipation and

> > yeast. Doctor Fell was careful to tell us that there was no link

between

> > autism and gut disorders. He seems nervous that so many patients with

> > autism from all over the country are coming to see him. he looks at

> > their gastro problems and ignores the autism and investigates/ treats

> > accordingly. I don't think he has any views that are different from

> > mainstream except that he is helping our kids.

> > I was very nervous about Tom having a general anaesthetic and sort of

> > expected a really bad reaction but Tom seemed to wake up from the

> > anaesthetic tons better!!!! That was yesterday and today he is the

best

> > he's ever been. What could that be? Pain relief? Oxygen? They

didn't see

> > anything at all down there by the way,

> > SARA

> >

> >

> > Dr Fell

> >

> >

> >

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> > msgId=40845/stime=1204891326/nc1=5191945/nc2=5191951/nc3=4025304>

> > Hi has anyone been to see Dr Fell we are seeing him tomorrow. Does he

> > do an intestinal permebilty test. Has anyones children been scoped by

> > Dr Fell? Does he agree that constipation can be caused by yeast?

> > Would be grateful for any help

> > thanks

> > dave

> >

> > _____

> >

> > She said what? About who? Shameful celebrity quotes

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Hi and Sara

We had the same experiences as both of you. , also had a high proportion of Eosinophils when scoped by NHS Grampian when she was 4. Never treated, and we were never told there was anything wrong. This is now being addressed with mesalazine.....

And Sara, when was scoped in New York she was tonnes better as well afterwarsd astonishingly so!! Let me tell you an example. We had the monitor on for the Capsule Endoscopy and we had to go back to Arthurs for 5pm to remove it. When we left the taxi hit a wall!! Not badly but he had to wait for a new cab. We had used this cab a lot whilst staying on Long Island and for anyone that knows that place, lotsa traffic at rush hour on the Expressway and all the other roads coming out of town. I had s Toast and bacon with me, she hadnt eaten at this stage for 36 hours. We sat in the cab me and her for nearly 3 hours..... She was calm, playing with her toys and having her toast. The taxi driver by this time was about to have a heart attack. It was amazing. We didn't get back to our Hotel til after 8 and had been perfectly well behaved it was so very weird!

This is terrible the lack of treatment our kids get it never fails to shock me.....

Luv Caroline

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