Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 I urge caution when interpreting the 1995 article on hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT )used to treat a scleroderma/lupus overlap patient which was put up on the web site below, Kathi: http://www.hbot4u.com/lupus1.html Although one of the authors listed is undoubtedly one of my personal favorites in the rheumatology world, Dr. J. Wallace (author of " The Lupus Book, " " All About Fibromyalgia, " " All About Osteoarthritis, " and lead editor of the world-famous " Dubois' Lupus Erythematosus " for physicians, not to mention many other published works), the article, which was originally published in the journal " Lupus, " as displayed at the above-mentioned site is quite poorly transcribed. I don't have access to the journal. I wish I did because I would like to view the original work. In addition, a paper from 1995 used in support of an alternative therapy in 2002 is getting relatively old, especially when it deals with a case study (one patient). If there were more recent, compelling case studies or research on greater numbers of patients on this specific topic, I'm sure they would be listed at that and the other similar sites selling hyperbaric services I came upon which also reference the very same article. In the conclusion of the paper, the authors themselves state, " Very little is known about the influence of hyperbaric oxygen on the immune system. " I could find no reference to hyperbaric oxygen therapy as a recommended general treatment of lupus in either of the lupus books of Wallace's. I came up empty-handed at the Lupus Foundation as well. Most importantly, in the article, the authors did NOT conclude that HBOT is a cure or even a general treatment for people with a scleroderma/lupus overlap. They stated that the patient's cognitive dysfunction appeared to improve resulting from hyperbaric oxygen therapy and that, perhaps, further investigation of HBOT as it applies to rheumatic disease, particularly as it pertains to SLE and cognitive deficits, was warranted. Also, consider again that it was one case and a special set of circumstances at that: an airline flight attendant with saline and then silicone breast implants and a user of L-tryptophan for sleep. This is not to say that hyperbaric oxygen therapy is without merit for certain medical conditions and other legitimate, effective uses will not be discovered. It has been used for many, many years to successfully treat divers with " the bends, " wound patients, and those suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning, to name a few. More treatments will emerge, I'm sure; however, I don't see this article as proof that it is worthwhile in lupus or scleroderma. An interesting case? Yes. Food for thought or impetus to investigate further? Yes. Cognitive dysfunction is a very serious problem for some lupus patients and it would be marvelous if HBOT could offer improvement. As the QuackWatch site suggested though, checking with the Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society (UHMS) is probably the best place to start if you wish to investigate the safe, approved application of such therapy or, at the very least, if you wish to experiment on yourself, find out if the provider of such a service has training: http://www.uhms.org/ A good write-up about HBOT therapy from eMedicine.com: http://www.emedicine.com/plastic/topic526.htm The use of HBOT to treat Raynaud's, especially as it applies to Raynaud's-induced ulcers that won't heal is intriguing and sounds plausible to me. I also read elsewhere that certain digestive problems in systemic sclerosis may possibly improve after HBOT. That seems believable as well. Unfortunately, there is very little data out there on these and other applications related to rheumatic diseases. And HBOT is very expensive. Please don't misunderstand me. I am not opposed to alternative or complementary therapies as long as there is some strong evidence that they work for the disease in question and pose no large risk to the patient either medically, emotionally, or financially. Both conventional medicine and unconventional medicine have their place in the treatment of rheumatic disease. It upsets me greatly when either or both camps take advantage, primarily for money, of patients quite desperate to regain their health. Sadly, both sides do. Be careful out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 --: Thank you for your thought it was something I wanted to look at and investigate...my best friend is an editor and had come across some research on hypbaric therapy and asked if I had ever heard of it in connection with autoimmune disease....I never jump at anything until I look long and hard and usually try to actually have a one on one with people that have under gone the treatment...it is like anything you read...beieve half of what you hear and a fourth of what you read...I do find this concept very interesting though especially the ischemic connection......it makes sense to me...once again Dear ...thank you.......Kathi in OK - In @y..., " " <Matsumura_Clan@m...> wrote: > I urge caution when interpreting the 1995 article on hyperbaric oxygen > therapy (HBOT )used to treat a scleroderma/lupus overlap patient which > was put up on the web site below, Kathi: > > http://www.hbot4u.com/lupus1.html > > Although one of the authors listed is undoubtedly one of my personal > favorites in the rheumatology world, Dr. J. Wallace (author of > " The Lupus Book, " " All About Fibromyalgia, " " All About Osteoarthritis, " > and lead editor of the world-famous " Dubois' Lupus Erythematosus " for > physicians, not to mention many other published works), the article, > which was originally published in the journal " Lupus, " as displayed at > the above-mentioned site is quite poorly transcribed. I don't have > access to the journal. I wish I did because I would like to view the > original work. > > In addition, a paper from 1995 used in support of an alternative > therapy in 2002 is getting relatively old, especially when it deals with > a case study (one patient). If there were more recent, compelling case > studies or research on greater numbers of patients on this specific > topic, I'm sure they would be listed at that and the other similar sites > selling hyperbaric services I came upon which also reference the very > same article. In the conclusion of the paper, the authors themselves > state, " Very little is known about the influence of hyperbaric oxygen on > the immune system. " > > I could find no reference to hyperbaric oxygen therapy as a recommended > general treatment of lupus in either of the lupus books of Wallace's. I > came up empty-handed at the Lupus Foundation as well. Most importantly, > in the article, the authors did NOT conclude that HBOT is a cure or even > a general treatment for people with a scleroderma/lupus overlap. They > stated that the patient's cognitive dysfunction appeared to improve > resulting from hyperbaric oxygen therapy and that, perhaps, further > investigation of HBOT as it applies to rheumatic disease, particularly > as it pertains to SLE and cognitive deficits, was warranted. > > Also, consider again that it was one case and a special set of > circumstances at that: an airline flight attendant with saline and then > silicone breast implants and a user of L-tryptophan for sleep. > > This is not to say that hyperbaric oxygen therapy is without merit for > certain medical conditions and other legitimate, effective uses will not > be discovered. It has been used for many, many years to successfully > treat divers with " the bends, " wound patients, and those suffering from > carbon monoxide poisoning, to name a few. More treatments will emerge, > I'm sure; however, I don't see this article as proof that it is > worthwhile in lupus or scleroderma. An interesting case? Yes. Food for > thought or impetus to investigate further? Yes. Cognitive dysfunction is > a very serious problem for some lupus patients and it would be marvelous > if HBOT could offer improvement. > > As the QuackWatch site suggested though, checking with the Undersea and > Hyperbaric Medical Society (UHMS) is probably the best place to start if > you wish to investigate the safe, approved application of such therapy > or, at the very least, if you wish to experiment on yourself, find out > if the provider of such a service has training: > > http://www.uhms.org/ > > > A good write-up about HBOT therapy from eMedicine.com: > > http://www.emedicine.com/plastic/topic526.htm > > > The use of HBOT to treat Raynaud's, especially as it applies to > Raynaud's-induced ulcers that won't heal is intriguing and sounds > plausible to me. I also read elsewhere that certain digestive problems > in systemic sclerosis may possibly improve after HBOT. That seems > believable as well. Unfortunately, there is very little data out there > on these and other applications related to rheumatic diseases. And HBOT > is very expensive. > > Please don't misunderstand me. I am not opposed to alternative or > complementary therapies as long as there is some strong evidence that > they work for the disease in question and pose no large risk to the > patient either medically, emotionally, or financially. Both conventional > medicine and unconventional medicine have their place in the treatment > of rheumatic disease. It upsets me greatly when either or both camps > take advantage, primarily for money, of patients quite desperate to > regain their health. Sadly, both sides do. > > Be careful out there! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 Kathi, I¹m glad you are proceeding with great caution. It bothers me the way ONE person responds yet they make it sound like it¹s been well researched on autoimmune diseases. This research is very interesting, but it sounds scary too. Here is some more reading on it: Auto immune disorders and Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy http://www.tell-us-your-story.com/_disc68b/00000016.htm Information about using HBOT for auto-immune diseases: http://www.healing-arts.org/children/hyperbaric.htm#HBOT%20 & %20auto-immune%2 0diseases Modulation of Immune Response http://www.baromedical.com/newsletter/010203.html I hope they do more research on this. It sounds like it could be promising. I would be leary about articles that are written by those making money on this treatment. I¹ll keep looking for more info. a > --: Thank you for your thought it was something I wanted to look > at and investigate...my best friend is an editor and had come across > some research on hypbaric therapy and asked if I had ever heard of it > in connection with autoimmune disease....I never jump at anything > until I look long and hard and usually try to actually have a one on > one with people that have under gone the treatment...it is like > anything you read...beieve half of what you hear and a fourth of what > you read...I do find this concept very interesting though especially > the ischemic connection......it makes sense to me...once again Dear > ...thank you.......Kathi in OK > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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