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In a message dated 6/26/2008 12:48:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

stills_stinks@... writes:

did you always feel down or sad before stills?

now the same but after stills

what did you do before that helped?

what do you do now?

who can or do you feel you can realy tell how your feeling if any one?

did you talk to any one about it before stills?

do you feel any of us need to look out for it be it stills alone or the

meds?

do you feel it is worse with meds ?

better with meds?

just some thought I have had and questions and well may be others also have

them and seeing it may help .Knowing what others feel , have done , how they

deal may help or give Ideas to try . hey I am looking as so dam tied of

crying and feeling I have nothing or that all my value as a person is gone .

now

deep inside i know this is t=not true but i get that feeling at times how

about you?

Dear Marty and all,

My dad was a manic-depressive and I learned those mood swings young,

although I believe they were learned responses and not real manic-depression.

I've

seen therapists pre-stills - when I went thru my divorce, when Al and I were

dating and considered breaking up, when my Mother passed away. I've had bouts

of depression when breaking up with boyfriends younger that eventually went

away, especially when someone new came along! But those depression times were

very different than the bouts I get today. Pre-stills, there was always a

teeny-tiny mustard seed size bit of hope for a better future. My depression with

stills is different because it's not going to get better and that along with

getting older lends itself to bleaker futures. I still manage to get out of

those blues, but it's this loop and anti-depressants that help. I can no

longer do it myself.

I guess those earlier bouts pre-stills got me ready to recognize depression

and talk about it and seek help immediately. But the talking about it is the

most important part, so please talk to us and talk to us and talk to us some

more until you get it all out of your system. We're here for you, you've been

here for me and together we don't have to have this happen again. Please

please please.

Love Carole from Hollywood FL

**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for

fuel-efficient used cars.

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Hi Terry, I'm ok, reading other ppls woes with Stills, I think I'm

pretty darn good! I am taking 25mg a week of MTX also. Your drs

explanation explains why my rheumy told me that I am not to drink

alcohol AT ALL! The liver. Maybe I should give up the drugs and take up

alcohol & chocolate & see how that goes!! Funnily enough, I have

commented to my mum & brother on occasions that I wake up & feel like I

have a massive hangover-but I missed the big night out-not fair!Must be

the MTX. Hope you are well. Libby :-)

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> Hi Libby

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> How are you feeling? I wanted to comment on the MTX " blues " by saying

> my Consultant has told me that my weekly dose (25mg) is the same as a

> years worth of alcohol in one go, so is it any wonder we feel awful.

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Marty

hey bro...i too like to play and cut-up....i also like to work hard...stillS has

cut deeply into both....i did not fight depression before still's.....now...not

as bad as the first six months....oh man that was pure hell.....of course now am

on an anti-depressant....but still yet i too cry at almost the drop of a

hat....heh heh but i'm a bit psycho too....the best treatment for me is too keep

my mind busy.....oh yeah, if i allow idle time i get stuck in that endlessmaze

of a brain and it can literally drive me nuts...even moreso than now...and,

like you, i suffer the irrational feelings of worthlessness.....

but, brother, we are children of the King...and He loves us so....and He has a

purpose for us and is building a testimony in us....you and D are such

special folks to me and you guys are a blessing to me....

God bless you allover bro....

Larry

was talking and what do ya all think

hi all

  and I were talking last night about depression and stills. some thing

she has noticed in all of us is one take away all meds and we still have a big

set of action in our lives that set us up for depression . that being

chronically ill a, lose of life as we have been taught to believe in , lose of

work or play time ( I refuse to grow up so it cut into my play time) things we

enjoyed doing ect. now the lose of one let alone all could bring it one and now

add in meds like roids , and yes anit depressants ,MTX and o so so many more

ingredients in our cocktails  and we are set up fully to fight a mind of

depression . what i was wondering how many fought it before still? I mean bad I

know i did not o sure i would get down and such but never ever did not wanting

to live ( as an adult not under the age of 25)  or let alone thought of way to

do some thing about it in a bad way. now from stills forward it is a fight

almost every day be it getting up

but the worst is when I have time to sit and think . now if i get engrossed

into some thing that fills my time I seam to be okay but slack time that's a

killer for me and with stills there is always to much of that .I know today I am

going to ask about it because for me it is getting bad were i cry a lot even for

old mushy me. it dose not take much . now doing any thing is not a thought of

mine at all and has not been for years when that happened I do believe it was

from my meds and not being on most of them no thought but the deep sadness the

crying and being upset most of the time almost angry at the world is not good .

things like that so

did you fight depression before stills?

 did you always feel down or sad before stills?

 now the same but after stills

 what did you do before that helped?

what do you do now?

 who can or do you feel you can realy tell how your feeling if any one?

 did you talk to any one about it before stills?

 do you feel any of us need to look out for it be it stills alone or the meds?

 do you feel it is worse with meds ?

 better with meds?

 just some thought I have had and questions and well may be others also have

them and seeing it may help .Knowing what others feel , have done , how they

deal may help or give Ideas to try . hey I am looking as so dam tied of crying

and feeling I have nothing or that all my value as a person is gone . now deep

inside i know this is t=not true but i get that feeling at times how about you?

 

the  rednecks

Marty & G.

the redneck's my space http://www.myspace.com/martyg58

 

 Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.

 

In the old days a man who saved money was a miser; nowadays he's a wonder. 

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