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Hi Heidi,

The situation with your grandmother is just awful. Of course she would be

taking large amounts of painkillers if she's not being treated for her RA.

She's in pain! What a shame that the doctors aren't more compassionate, and

don't have more common sense. I guess none of them have lived with a

chronic pain condition.

I hope things work out for her and she can get the treatment she needs.

Hugs,

Carol

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to vent a little about how daft doctors can be! I am so mad!

My Grandmother (who is 65 years old) had a bad fall recently (she was

knocked over by an employee pushing a loading trolley in a supermarket), she

has spent the last 3 weeks in hospital and had to have a full hip

replacement. She lives with my aunt in South Africa, so is far from me -

different countries!. Anyway the doctors told my aunt that she is addicted

to painkillers and her kidneys were in bad shape because of it. So they

have told her to keep all med's away from my Gran and not to give her

anything stronger than Panadol if ever she complains of pain. Their " wise "

opinion is that " she's only complaining to satisfy her addiction and that

she is fine " . Thing is my Gran has RA and when I asked her yesterday after

hearing this what kind of treatment she was on for it, the answer was

NOTHING!!! No bloody wonder she's addicted to painkillers! She's been to

public hospital doctors for years as they don't have enough money for

private care (public hospitals are free of charge in South Africa but the

care is not nearly as good as private clinics) and they have never treated

her RA. Jeez these doctors drive me nuts. I am going to speak to my aunt

and convince her to get her to a Rheumatologist as soon as possible even if

I have to pay for it myself. Its ridiculous, she's had RA for years, it

just never occurred to me that she wasn't being treated for it, she must be

in a state. Sorry, I just had to share that with you all.

Hugs,

Heidi

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Hi Heidi,

I'm so sorry to hear about your gran. I think it is abhorrent to keep pain

meds away from someone who needs it. Hope she recovers soon and hope you are

having a pain free day.

Love and Hugs,

Stacey in PA

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Heidi,

This is really awful. Your poor grandmother. They are going to torture

her!

I hope you can convince your aunt that doctor is nuts! Print out some

articles and

send them to her if you have to. To not treat it and now to take away her

pain meds

is inhumane. Grandma is in my prayers.

Hugs,

a

> Hi everyone,

> Just wanted to vent a little about how daft doctors can be! I am so mad!

> My Grandmother (who is 65 years old) had a bad fall recently (she was

> knocked over by an employee pushing a loading trolley in a supermarket), she

> has spent the last 3 weeks in hospital and had to have a full hip

> replacement. She lives with my aunt in South Africa, so is far from me -

> different countries!. Anyway the doctors told my aunt that she is addicted

> to painkillers and her kidneys were in bad shape because of it. So they

> have told her to keep all med's away from my Gran and not to give her

> anything stronger than Panadol if ever she complains of pain. Their " wise "

> opinion is that " she's only complaining to satisfy her addiction and that

> she is fine " . Thing is my Gran has RA and when I asked her yesterday after

> hearing this what kind of treatment she was on for it, the answer was

> NOTHING!!! No bloody wonder she's addicted to painkillers! She's been to

> public hospital doctors for years as they don't have enough money for

> private care (public hospitals are free of charge in South Africa but the

> care is not nearly as good as private clinics) and they have never treated

> her RA. Jeez these doctors drive me nuts. I am going to speak to my aunt

> and convince her to get her to a Rheumatologist as soon as possible even if

> I have to pay for it myself. Its ridiculous, she's had RA for years, it

> just never occurred to me that she wasn't being treated for it, she must be

> in a state. Sorry, I just had to share that with you all.

> Hugs,

> Heidi

>

>

>

>

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> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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>

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Heidi,

What a terrible story!

Are you grandmother's kidneys okay? Who has been giving her the

painkillers? Weren't tests being run to check her out!! This is so awful!!

How soon can you get her to a rheumatologist?? Gosh, I'm as mad as you are!!

Let us know what happens.

Suzanne

> Hi everyone,

> Just wanted to vent a little about how daft doctors can be! I am so mad!

> My Grandmother (who is 65 years old) had a bad fall recently (she was

> knocked over by an employee pushing a loading trolley in a supermarket),

she

> has spent the last 3 weeks in hospital and had to have a full hip

> replacement. She lives with my aunt in South Africa, so is far from me -

> different countries!. Anyway the doctors told my aunt that she is

addicted

> to painkillers and her kidneys were in bad shape because of it. So they

> have told her to keep all med's away from my Gran and not to give her

> anything stronger than Panadol if ever she complains of pain. Their

" wise "

> opinion is that " she's only complaining to satisfy her addiction and that

> she is fine " . Thing is my Gran has RA and when I asked her yesterday

after

> hearing this what kind of treatment she was on for it, the answer was

> NOTHING!!! No bloody wonder she's addicted to painkillers! She's been to

> public hospital doctors for years as they don't have enough money for

> private care (public hospitals are free of charge in South Africa but the

> care is not nearly as good as private clinics) and they have never treated

> her RA. Jeez these doctors drive me nuts. I am going to speak to my aunt

> and convince her to get her to a Rheumatologist as soon as possible even

if

> I have to pay for it myself. Its ridiculous, she's had RA for years, it

> just never occurred to me that she wasn't being treated for it, she must

be

> in a state. Sorry, I just had to share that with you all.

> Hugs,

> Heidi

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

>

>

>

>

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> Hi everybody. It's a beautiful Wednesday night here in NY and I haven't been

outside in 3 days due to keeping makeup off of my face (Neal you should be

proud). Well, in the last 7 days since I learned about the bismuth oxychloride

contained in the makeup I was using, I have been doing exhaustive research on

the chemical and I'm feeling just a tad bit sorry for myself and all the other

women out there who have mild acne and put makeup on because the hype says it's

good for acne?!??? Now I'm at the point where my sister who feels terrible for

me has suggested accutane.I know way better and will not!! I've explained that

I'm thru putting chemicals on any part of my body...I've been sticking to the

diet more than ever in hopes that it will help me recover from this poisoning

quicker. I've only been on it 6 weeks and with supplements 4, the cystic acne

has existed for me for 1 year(that was when I started the makeup poison) with

mild acne on and off for years-gosh I can't wait til it's just that again. All

the information I've been reading warns against the bismuth and the fact that it

can cause mild to severe cystic acne. I guess it's a sign of our world, put

chemicals on your face then run to the dermatologist and put chemicals inside to

temporarily(if that) make it go away. I'm just feeling sad that I didn't realize

about this sooner and I'm an optimistic person so this won't last long. Do you

know, not once did my derma-who I haven't seen in 2 months and plan not to go

back to-ever asked me about the makeup I use!! Meanwhile, the bismuth blues are

all over the internet. Luv, Phyllis

Hi Phyllis

I am proud of you for your observation. I agree that we have got a misguided

view of how we should look and as a father of 2 beautiful daughters I make sure

they know that beauty DOES come from the inside and what you eat affects your

beauty. I had bad acne when I was younger and made the mistake, (or learning

experience) of seeking a doctor's assistance. He cleared the acne and now Im

paying for it. If you are like me you will see changes in your skin. I am losing

creases and lines in my skin. My hair is getting darker, (I have a little grey

hair) and i'm losing puffiness in my face and neck. I scratched my nose the

other day and was surprised that it was smaller. My nostrils are smaller and I

have less nose hair.

Good job and stay the course and you will be rewarded.

Neal

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