Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 i work full-time. i mow the yard every weekend. i do the grocery shopping twice a month. cook complete meals each night. pack a lunch for school. do the laundry. go to therapy on sat mornings, therapy thurs evenings. go to school to observe a few times a year. dust. vacuum. research. wash the dishes. shop for school clothes. doctor appts. not to mention the ard meetings, recent mediation. not to mention play & work with my son. all by my little own self. not complaining - just laying out a partial list. i know that if my laundry, yard, food prep, house cleaning, at least 1/2 dr & therapy appts, etc. were handled by someone else, i would have tons of free time. you're talking about someone who has a broad range of support. she has a husband & a teenage daughter, capable of pitching in. she will have access to some of the best therapists and doctors simply because of her position. and good for her - no envy here. the baby and the entire family are very fortunate. if she thinks that she has the ability to be a good leader, to clean up messes, then let her give it a shot (oooh, no pun intended). she'll either succeed or fail like all the others before her. we're not looking to hire her to be a mom. we're looking to hire her to be vp. she accepted the job. who cares if her husband quits his job? who cares if she doesn't carpool? it's within her family to decide how they handle the details of family. Subject: Wonder about To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:59 PM I have spent years and years of intensive work with my children, both pretty severe at one point. How can a person with five children and a baby with Downs take care and advocate for her children and be gone all the time? Would she be able to take a roll in the PTA or take turns carpooling her kids like many parents do? And when they get sick? When the Downs baby needs special therapy could she be there? Yes, it looks good that she has a disabled child by choice and the NRA likes her for her gun image and the fishermen like her because she likes to fish....but when you look more intensively at her...how would she adequately be a Mom....would her husband quit his job? Or would she have a fulltime babysitter? Just thinking. Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 > Yes, it looks good that she has a disabled child by choice and the NRA likes her for her gun image and the fishermen like her because she likes to fish....but when you look more intensively at her...how would she adequately be a Mom....would her husband quit his job? Or would she have a fulltime babysitter? I work full-time, with two special needs people in our family (my husband and one of the kids), and I've thought about this too. I had to significantly step down in my career in order to care for my family. All the people I know that don't step down in their careers pay to have other people care for their families--tutors, nannies, housekeepers, therapists, private school, etc. If I could afford it along with our family's therapies/medical expenses, I would probably be doing some of that myself. But, I also think other people have more energy and have better organizational skills than me, so perhaps can manage more. After all, she got where she's at somehow. So, I don't know--it's interesting though. Even if she doesn't end up being as involved in the day to day care of her kids at this point though--she's still going to have their needs on her mind. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Hats off to you !!! I completely understand where you are coming from. I was a single mom with 2 kids on the spectrum and a typical child, all under the age of 4, all in diapers! I had no choice but to work full time. I had a great support system with my family living very close by. I had a great schedule and was able to juggle home, work, family, therapies, etc. Every family is very different and every job is different as well. Although Pallin has a position of high authority doesn't mean that she is chained to a desk. Her job is way different than the typical 8 - 5 job. Because she has the type of position she does, she probably had more flexibility in her schedule; perhaps some days where she didn't have to be " in the office " . And perhaps lots of days where she worked extra to " make up " . I have to agree, we aren't looking for her to be a mom, we want her to be a VP. I want a strong leader. Just because she isn't in a carpool or part of the PTA doesn't mean that she isn't involved in her child's life. Just my 2 cents! > > > Subject: Wonder about > To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy > Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:59 PM > > > > > > > I have spent years and years of intensive work with my children, both pretty severe at one point. How can a person with five children and a baby with Downs take care and advocate for her children and be gone all the time? Would she be able to take a roll in the PTA or take turns carpooling her kids like many parents do? And when they get sick? When the Downs baby needs special therapy could she be there? > > Yes, it looks good that she has a disabled child by choice and the NRA likes her for her gun image and the fishermen like her because she likes to fish....but when you look more intensively at her...how would she adequately be a Mom....would her husband quit his job? Or would she have a fulltime babysitter? > > Just thinking. Martha > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Not everyone is able to be a " PTA " type parent. As a former childcare teacher, I can tell you some of my biggest supporters with classroom parties, supplies, etc. were from the parents who could NOT be there. They filled in gaps on the sign up lists for parties (even the morning of would hand me money or send it with their child to cover missing items) They gave *me* thank you gift cards " for no reason " to let me know I was appreciated. We emailed important things about the children as well as the cute and funny. These were not " rich " or " powerful " parents--just the nature of their job made taking off during school hours to participate very difficult. Palin got rid of the " fluff " staff when she became governor--and told her kids they were the same as they were before she became governor and were not going to be treated differently. She could have easily " pawned " her children off on the staff to do the " more important " things, but she didn't If women can vote and go to war in combat roles and have and raise a family, they can serve as VP and do the same. Yes, there will be times she cannot do things, but her title will enable her to tweak quite a few schedules. Bonnie, mom to 3.75 yrs, Autism, Albinism > Hats off to you !!! > > I completely understand where you are coming from. I was a single mom > with 2 kids on the spectrum and a typical child, all under the age of > 4, all in diapers! > > I had no choice but to work full time. I had a great support system > with my family living very close by. I had a great schedule and was > able to juggle home, work, family, therapies, etc. > > Every family is very different and every job is different as well. > Although Pallin has a position of high authority doesn't mean that she > is chained to a desk. Her job is way different than the typical 8 - 5 > job. Because she has the type of position she does, she probably had > more flexibility in her schedule; perhaps some days where she didn't > have to be " in the office " . And perhaps lots of days where she worked > extra to " make up " . > > I have to agree, we aren't looking for her to be a mom, we want her to > be a VP. I want a strong leader. Just because she isn't in a carpool > or part of the PTA doesn't mean that she isn't involved in her child's > life. > > Just my 2 cents! > > > > > > > > Subject: Wonder about > > To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy <Texas-Autism-Advocacy%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 10:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have spent years and years of intensive work with my children, > both pretty severe at one point. How can a person with five children > and a baby with Downs take care and advocate for her children and be > gone all the time? Would she be able to take a roll in the PTA or take > turns carpooling her kids like many parents do? And when they get > sick? When the Downs baby needs special therapy could she be there? > > > > Yes, it looks good that she has a disabled child by choice and the > NRA likes her for her gun image and the fishermen like her because she > likes to fish....but when you look more intensively at her...how would > she adequately be a Mom....would her husband quit his job? Or would > she have a fulltime babysitter? > > > > Just thinking. Martha > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 I would have to agree with Martha. . ..about how much time or what kind of mothering someone in that kind of position is actually able to provide. Who knows, maybe there is a father or grandparents or nanny who is willing to be the main “hands on” parent, and does all of that “being there” that is so important to raising emotionally healthy kids. . . . .but personally, I think it’s impossible for someone to be governor of a state and be a true hands on parent—someone else has to be doing it. It doesn’t mean that she doesn’t care about them. . . . . .Yes governor isn’t a 9-5 job—it’s a whole lot more. . . .weekends, nights, etc. But perhaps she’s got her “village” in place to support her kids. I think about this a lot. . . .because I feel like so little REAL value is given to moms/dads who make the hard choice to be involved parents over having a high powered career. Single parents need so much more credit and support than they are getting. It’s so ironic that during the years that our kids need our time and energy the most, those are the same years we are supposed to be putting in time to build “the career”. It just doesn’t make sense. . . ..it’s kind of like how in the US we say we value children when if you really look at things, everything having to do with focusing on young children. . .day care centers, preschools, pediatricians, elementary teachers. . . . .all make less money in their fields than do others who have adults as their focus YET the research tells us that these early years are so critical to build a stable foundation. S. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have to agree, we aren't looking for her to be a mom, we want her to be a VP. I want a strong leader. Just because she isn't in a carpool or part of the PTA doesn't mean that she isn't involved in her child's life. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Yes, it looks good that she has a disabled child by choice and the NRA likes her for her gun image and the fishermen like her because she likes to fish....but when you look more intensively at her...how would she adequately be a Mom....would her husband quit his job? Or would she have a fulltime babysitter? > > Just thinking. Martha Just my 2 cents! " Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. " Dwight D. Eisenhower No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1645 - Release Date: 9/1/2008 7:19 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 If she were not running for the VP spot but instead applying for a high power position in business in which she would be working 60 or more hours per week, would it be appropriate for her potential employer to question whether or not she is a good mother? I think most of us would say NO!!! " Every blessing You pour out, I'll turn back to praise. When the darkness closes in Lord, still I will chose to say, 'Blessed be the Name of the Lord. Blessed be Your Name!' " Matt Redman, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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