RE: Re: Darv >> 2 Ellen

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Ellen

Oh no, I think you mistook what I said. That is that it's totally up to

the person as to whether or not they should get a flu shot and it should

never be required. My point is just that whether you get the shot or not

will have little impact on other areas of your health. The best studies

have shown the vaccine (when created properly) to be beneficial in

preventing the types of flu is it designed to prevent. It has saved

lives. Whether you choose to get the shot for yourself is your decision.

We should be aware that it is available if we choose to get it. I've

never seen anything that indicates that normally healthy adults should get

the vaccine because there simply is not enough to vaccinate everyone. It

is my opinion and my opinion only that anyone taking immune suppression

medications such as are prescribed to Still's patients should confer with

their doctor to see if the vaccine would be beneficial given their lowered

immune system.

There is always some risk. Especially in that the vaccine can be fatal if

prepared improperly. Vaccines have their own issues. I saw a fairly

convincing article that showed beyond a reasonable doubt to me that it was

doctors racing to create a vaccine for I think it was Polio that

inadvertently started the AIDS epidemic by using primates to create vaccines

faster. As with any medical technology, when you mess with stuff you do

not fully understand you can get bitten by it.

My personal opinion is that the flu vaccine in the US is safe and effective.

Yes some will have reactions but they are usually mild. Those that do have

reactions are probably the same that would suffer the most if they did get

the virus.

Like you I would drop all this technology to go live in the country and a

slower pace of life. But, I am a computer technician and there just are

not that many jobs for us out there in the mountains or farmlands.

In short, I agree with all your points.

Cheers,

Darv

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From: Stillsdisease [mailto:Stillsdisease ]

On Behalf Of Zovtic

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:24 AM

To: Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Darv

Darv:

You have valid points, of course and entitled to your opinion, just

as I'm entitled to mine. You are also correct about the use of

chemicals in our environment and ourselves, our homes, the air and

everything else we come in contact with.

If it weren't for my husband (city boy) I'd have gone back to farming

years ago! Farming to my husband is a bunch of plants in pots on the

porch. That's exactly what I have too but more like a jungle on my

patio which includes three huge Aloe Vera plants. And yes, I use them

on a regular basis.

I'm not a naturalist or a back to nature kind of person but I'm also

not materialistic, and, in fact would actually prefer a quieter

existance in the country. Even that is poisoned, I'm sure.

Our strains of the flu are not the same as they once were or our

bodies developed enough anti-bodies to fight it off better. The food

we take in, some of it local most of it foreign (and expensive) helps

to feed the natural fight. I'm not even talking about organic

(another discussion for another time).

The point I'm trying to make is that the shot is NOT for everyone

though it's being pushed that way. You do as you need to in order to

fight the best you can, I will fend off the flu in my own manner as

best I can. Not to say one is better than the other - it's just

which works for us.

Does that makes more sense and less abrasive? By the way Darv,

thanks, it's been awhile since anyone has debated with me. It feels

good. I grew up in that kind of environment; loud, almost forceful

debates about some of the most ridiculous things. I miss that.

Take care and be well.

Ellen