Re: dumped children, sort of off topic

November 9, 2008

Nuha

This is one of the questions a lot of people ask when it comes to disabled kids

and the one that follows closely behind is why me.

I believe this is one of the things that only God knows the plan for. These

children may end up in the most suitable home for them because they are up for

adoption. I know of many wonderful adoptive parents who cried to God for years

for a child and now they have 3 4 and 5 kids. God may not of given them children

in the traditional way but everyone of the parents who I know that have adopted

special needs kids have given them the love and understanding that they needed.

The therapies and doctors follow but the main thing they needed is love. I am a

foster mum to a 4 yr old with Classic Autism she is my girl in every sense of

the word. I love her as much as any child I gave birth too. She is the one I

joined this list for. I am her mummy and my husband her daddy. I see her for the

blessing she is.

I always tell people if they have it in their heart and means to adopt or foster

kids then to do it. One hug may just make a difference in a life time of hurts.

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To: Autism_in_Girls

Sent: Sunday, 9 November, 2008 3:59:13 PM

Subject: dumped children, sort of off topic

my daughter prays every night for a brother or a sister, she 's 5 but ever since

she learned to communicate, a brother or sister is all she wants and now they

are on the Christmas list too

so i decided to look on line for adoption and foster kids up for adoption. i am

sad to tell you that there are several autism children out there without a

steady care or home. many lives in homes and centers and have other issues and

medical needs

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One day i will understand why God allows such misery on children... many were

MR, and a good bunch were families of 4-5 children in each family and wants an

adoptive family for all of them so they are not split...

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how can parents do this?? and why is God allowing it to happen?? can anyone tell

me

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November 9, 2008

nuha God does not allow it and it saddens him greatly it is of the

selfish greed and sin and other things of human life. that is of why

we are to be of our brothers keeper to be of ones who step in and

take care of those who cannot.

my work here is of my share of being of my brothers keeper in my own

unique way of contributing to life. each is of asked to do their part

no matter how big or how small.

some are of asked as you feel in you heart to adopt, some are asked

to foster care, some are asked to work in places that releives some

of the human suffereing such as those who go to poor countires and

helps the kids. some advocate strongly and some do as me here who

just shares what they are of able to.

I to have of some strong caring christian people as supporting people

in the life of me now in this life. I to know I to have of 7 of them

in my areas that either mentor, advocate, care in a nurturing way, to

me but they provide what they can and are of able to do for me in

this life and so that is of taking care of each other is of to work.

it is of much like a computer game i to like to play with it is of

called zeus and in that you are of to build a city and yet all of the

things yo do builds off the needs of the people as a whole to survive

so if I to not pay attention to the little details the city will

crumble and people will move out to a place that is of better, but

anyways this game has helped me when i to drive in my own

neighborhood now I to see of all the houses and how that I to now

have awareness they are of all people who need to work, and or obtain

a way to support thier families and then they also need of food

sources, and other things to survive and this is of why the

businesses and if the health and water and things of this are of not

taken care of they will get of sick or be of unhealthy. but this game

helped me see my world more outside of self and get a better

understand of how human life all needs to work together to make it

work.

sondra

November 9, 2008

" One hug may just make a difference in a life time of hurts " .

this is of so true and even to have just one in the life who is of

to care and or nurture and teach with love and patience can mean much

to a person. I to many not get the physical need of a hug but

understand the terms of it , but for me can sense strongly when some

one cares much so about me.

sondra

November 9, 2008

i don't know why but i'm in the process of adoption too. no babies available.

but that's okay. my dolphin wants a brother and sister too fro the longest time.

i miscarried two already and i'm forty so don't think there's much of an option.

we are on a waiting list. i can't do foster care because i can't love a kid only

to have it returned or taken from me. i happened to a friend after 5 years the

child was returned. she had no rights over the child whatsoever. and neither did

the child was taken kicking and screaming. i can't go through that whcih is why

adoption is it. but yes the catalogue of dumped children is saddening. but then

if the family could not care for it or was at risk of abusing the child beter in

some form of organized safety. i know the orphanages we help sponser in

haiti?are well loved and happy and are like a great big family. here i don't

know but a child at risk of being abused or even in some cases killed like katie

mccarron. it's best they be dumped for others to receive. another boy who helped

write a book with his dad is autistic and adopted. best adopted than suffering.

not that it always happenes. but many infertile couples are adopting now. there

have been way too many cases of parents killing their children. in that case at

least a chance somewhere else is better than being abused or killed by their own

parents

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dumped children, sort of off topic

my daughter prays every night for a brother or a sister, she 's 5 but ever since

she learned to communicate, a brother or sister is all she wants and now they

are on the Christmas list too

so i decided to look on line for adoption and foster kids up for adoption. i am

sad to tell you that there are several autism children out there without a

steady care or home. many lives in homes and centers and have other issues and

medical needs

?

One day i will understand why God allows such misery on children... many were

MR, and a good bunch were families of 4-5 children in each family and wants an

adoptive family for all of them so they are not split...

?

how can parents do this?? and why is God allowing it to happen?? can anyone tell

me

?

November 9, 2008

My husband and I were watching tv last night and saw a commercial for

the Heart Gallery (http://www.sacheartgallery.org/), and they were

saying how hard it is to find homes for sibling groups or older kids

or kids with special needs. My husband said, " Well, we're definitely

going to do that some day. " We've talked about it on and off before,

but he has gone back and forth in the past. Now he's sure he wants to,

which makes me happy. Not for a few years, unfortunately, but sadly, I

know there will always be kids who need us. And my 5 year old told us

this morning that we need to have at least 6 kids (we have 3 right

now). So he'd be thrilled! He has been asking for more siblings his

whole life. And I think when our kids are older, we will be better

equipped to take in a child with autism than most foster families. And

I already have the Regional Center on speed dial, lol.

Amnesty

>

> my daughter prays every night for a brother or a sister, she 's 5

but ever since she learned to communicate, a brother or sister is all

she wants and now they are on the Christmas list too

> so i decided to look on line for adoption and foster kids up for

adoption. i am sad to tell you that there are several autism children

out there without a steady care or home. many lives in homes and

centers and have other issues and medical needs

>

> One day i will understand why God allows such misery on children...

many were MR, and a good bunch were families of 4-5 children in each

family and wants an adoptive family for all of them so they are not

split...

>

> how can parents do this?? and why is God allowing it to happen?? can

anyone tell me

>

November 9, 2008

I to often thinked of adopting of kids from africa... but the fear of

the language barrier and health as well as my own autism feel unalbe to

really do what my heart would like to do.

it is of just much work and dedications to raise a child with much

health and language barriers when you also have much language barriers

and health issues so for self can only give of them my tears when I to

see of the shows of them and then I to pray for them.

just like right now I to seen of a place where they had of a school

crumble I to lack how yet but the visual of the one mother screaming in

painful shock over the possible loss of her child , impacts of me

greatly. I to feel her tears stronger than my own. the whole thinking

of 80 children trapped or crushed under the weight of their school

building is of hard for me to think on. they then to sayed the head

school master was in custody so he must be to have caused of it.

sondra

November 9, 2008

I don't know how it happens either. A family I coach for, though, is officially

on my " totally rockin' " list. They have 5 kids, and half of them are adopted

special needs kids, who were abandoned or removed from parental custody when

very young.

And while it sucks to know that people abandon their kids, at the same time it

fills me with a bit of hope to know that there are people who adopt kids with

special needs and love them as their own.

Kassiane

>

> Subject: Re: dumped children, sort of off topic

> To: Autism_in_Girls

> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:14 PM

> My husband and I were watching tv last night and saw a

> commercial for

> the Heart Gallery (http://www.sacheartgallery.org/), and

> they were

> saying how hard it is to find homes for sibling groups or

> older kids

> or kids with special needs. My husband said, " Well,

> we're definitely

> going to do that some day. " We've talked about it

> on and off before,

> but he has gone back and forth in the past. Now he's

> sure he wants to,

> which makes me happy. Not for a few years, unfortunately,

> but sadly, I

> know there will always be kids who need us. And my 5 year

> old told us

> this morning that we need to have at least 6 kids (we have

> 3 right

> now). So he'd be thrilled! He has been asking for more

> siblings his

> whole life. And I think when our kids are older, we will be

> better

> equipped to take in a child with autism than most foster

> families. And

> I already have the Regional Center on speed dial, lol.

> Amnesty

>

> >

> > my daughter prays every night for a brother or a

> sister, she 's 5

> but ever since she learned to communicate, a brother or

> sister is all

> she wants and now they are on the Christmas list too

> > so i decided to look on line for adoption and foster

> kids up for

> adoption. i am sad to tell you that there are several

> autism children

> out there without a steady care or home. many lives in

> homes and

> centers and have other issues and medical needs

> >

> > One day i will understand why God allows such misery

> on children...

> many were MR, and a good bunch were families of 4-5

> children in each

> family and wants an adoptive family for all of them so they

> are not

> split...

> >

> > how can parents do this?? and why is God allowing it

> to happen?? can

> anyone tell me

> >

November 9, 2008

kassi do you think that you will ever want to be to adopt of kids?

sondra

November 9, 2008

One of the parents I have the most reverence for came to one of the

autism 101 classes I was doing. she was a single foster parent who got

a little guy with autism. That " foster mom " jumped through all sorts

of hoops. She had a job that required some travel but she had to give

it up or she couldn't have him. She was attending every autism group

meeting she could, reading every book, trying the diets, etc to help

this kid. I think that was 2 yrs ago and she still has him. I hope if

she can be his permanent mom some day, God knows she's been more of a

real mom to him than anyone else has.

And, I know I'm opening a huge can of worms on this one, it really,

really shows that gay people have a very valuable, very needed, very

critical role that should be welcomed in fostering/adopting kids.

Debi

November 9, 2008

I think I would like to adopt kids. I love children, and there are SO many who

need a loving home.

>

> Subject: Re: dumped children, sort of off topic

> To: Autism_in_Girls

> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 3:47 PM

> kassi do you think that you will ever want to be to adopt of

> kids?

>

> sondra

November 9, 2008

> > And, I know I'm opening a huge can of

worms on this

> one, it really,

> really shows that gay people have a very valuable, very

> needed, very

> critical role that should be welcomed in fostering/adopting

> kids.

>

> Debi

I agree with this wholeheartedly. A loving family matters FAR more to a child

than a standard " mommy and daddy " family.

The woman in your autism 101 class sounds like a real winner.

November 9, 2008

>>

> I agree with this wholeheartedly. A loving family matters FAR more

> to a child than a standard " mommy and daddy " family.

Totally....and related to this, what a bunch of closed-minded bigots

we have here in CA voting yes on Prop 8. It's unconstitutional,

though, so will be overturned, but still.... I'm so embarrassed for

our state.

November 9, 2008

cathy can you clarify of the thinking of overturned and issues of 8?

sondra

November 9, 2008

Proposition 8 was the gay marriage ban proposition on the CA ballot

which will add an amendment to the CA State Constitution. It

eliminates the rights of same-sex couples to marry, essentially

overturning a CA Supreme Court decision stating that it is a

fundamental right. However, a state constitution cannot have a law

that conflicts with the US Constitution, and the 14th Amendment

guarantees everyone equal protection under the law. Therefore, Prop

8 is unconstitutional and will be overturned.

November 9, 2008

cathy stil not sure of what you are of sharing but been hearing some of

this on the TV and still not getting of it yet. can you share how it

conflicts with the constitutions? trying to gain insight to this.

sondra

November 9, 2008

> cathy stil not sure of what you are of sharing but been hearing

> some of

> this on the TV and still not getting of it yet. can you share how it

> conflicts with the constitutions? trying to gain insight to this.

> sondra

>

If this denial of same-sex couples to marry is amended to the CA

State Constitution, it is in direct conflict with the 14th Amendment

to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees U.S. citizens equal rights

and protection under the law. State Constitutions cannot violate the

U.S. Constitution. In other words, EVERYONE who is of legal age

should have the right to marry, and should not be discriminated

against based, in this case, solely on sexual orientation.

November 9, 2008

so the over turn means that is of now not a law to be of allowed to get

of marriage if you are of the same sex? but this is of illegal.

sondra

November 9, 2008

> so the over turn means that is of now not a law to be of allowed to

> get

> of marriage if you are of the same sex? but this is of illegal.

> sondra

Up until election day, same-sex marriage had been legal in CA. Prop

8 made it illegal again, but it is unconstitutional, so will be

overturned on appeal, making same-sex marriage in CA legal once again.

November 9, 2008

I dont think the gender of your sexual partner has anything to do with your

ability to love and nurture. When your a child in need of love who cares who

else them arms cradle.

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To: Autism_in_Girls

Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2008 8:02:25 AM

Subject: Re: dumped children, sort of off topic