Re: to get a new batch started?

June 21, 2012

Rezz ...

Might I suggest instead of slamming and criticising others you give

concrete examples of what to use instead. New members won't remember

our previous conversations about all of this.

So a post along the lines of ... " I personally prefer to stay away

from all " man-created sugars " and instead use " bananas, raisins, etc "

and in these quanities and in this way and it works well for me " ...

would be better received, maybe even sparking interest in others in

trying your methods.

BUT at the end of the day people get to decide for THEMSELVES what

they will use. Shaming people for using sugar isn't a great way to

get your point across.

In my opionion,

Jaxi

> any source sugar granules do not exist in natural environments*

>

> kombucha is not merely a tea, you brew it with " tea " /infusions

> there is no such thing as kombucha tea: -it is an elixir & whole

> body tonic(varying according to how one brews her/his styles?)

>

> why is this listserv so absolutely religiously stubborn about the

> usage of drug-form sugars(from any source derived) in feeding

> scoby? bottom line: you feed the culture any drug form sugars,

> then you will not produce an authentic active living kombucha.

>

> what parts of unnatural & nonexistent-in-nature do we continue

> on in denial, apathy, lies, distortion or brutish self-delusionality

>

> human beings never " one-up " mother nature, ever, ever: accept

> the reality why not? it's the sugar that is specifically in question

June 21, 2012

Meanwhile you are typing all this using the Internet which dosn't exist

in " Nature " ....

Meanwhile .. The tea you are talking about doesn't exist in nature either; you

have to coerce the tea leaves to ferment and bag them and then steep them ...

You will not find a river of brewed tea near a tea plantation b the way, the

plantation itself a man construct .. but assuming they would grow together in a

space you need to take the leave and steep it .. You may choose to steep it in

cold water .. it may take a while to get some tea... from any non-processed leaf

... Fire under it and you would have processed it ....

Now for the SCOBY .. How do yo get it to form? .. if not with some un-natural

way to extract the sugar from any sugar producing natural substance? You will

have to (at least) mechanically press the fruit to extract its sweetness to be

of any use or to do it while your natural life span is in front of you ...

Now Kombucha is an interesting way ot get some (un)natural stuff and turn it to

a food that is pretty full of enzymes of vitamins and needed acids and that is

not counting the probiotics so many of us need to keep our constantly assaulted

organism in good health If i helps in a wholistic way it has served a very

natural purpose by helping the body heals . Don't you think? It helps and it

heals and it is good tasting ...

Do we need to go back to ... Just gather and grow our own food ... We can but I

can assure you that typing could well be not in accordance to this philosophy of

all natural all the time ... maybe quill pen and Papyrus .. definitely not the

Internet as most of it is powered by fosil (unfortunately the process of turning

the fossill fuel into energy is killing our planet) carbon or Atom ....So you

will have to find a way to go talk to all of us or get our addresses and send us

some well hand written manuscripts (We will forgive you for forgetting how the

Postal trucks pollutes the air or the postal system using electricity, which is

not the kind produced by photovoltaic means ... then again making the cells

themselves pollute the planet quite a bit but I am digressing .. Â Â Â )Â is

in opposition to the sacred natural Life

Â I can understand trying to be as close as possible to unprocessed but ....

pushing things to the etreme leads to extremist , thus dangerous and

unsustainable positions .. Moderation in everything .. Everything in moderation

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To: " original_kombucha " <original_kombucha >

Cc: " yunnokoslo@... "

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:50 PM

Subject: to get a new batch started?

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any source sugar granules do not exist in natural environments*

kombucha is not merely a tea, you brew it with " tea " /infusions

there is no such thing as kombucha tea: -it is an elixir & whole

body tonic(varying according to how one brews her/his styles?)

why is this listserv so absolutely religiously stubborn about the

usage of drug-form sugars(from any source derived) in feeding

scoby? bottom line: you feed the culture any drug form sugars,

then you will not produce an authentic active living kombucha.

what parts of unnatural & nonexistent-in-nature do we continue

on in denial, apathy, lies, distortion or brutish self-delusionality

human beings never " one-up " mother nature, ever, ever: accept

the reality why not? it's the sugar that is specifically in question

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To: original_kombucha

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:55 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Trying to get a new batch started after over a year

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Even easier.

Store bought GTs KT - original.

Pour it in a larger mouthed container - example - a wide mouth quart

jar - cover with coffee filter and just wait. It will form a lovely

scoby in a relatively brief period of time. This was how I made my

first one.

Later I got one from someone who started hers before GTs moved to

their " enlightened " version. If you can get the original where you

are go for that. The enlightened works some have suggested the

culture is not as strong as the orignal was.

Avoid any of the non-refridgerated versions - I am trying to think of

an example - but anyway - I have seen them in bottles in the

soda/bottled fizzy water area of the store. I would almost promise

you those have been pasturized. You want the raw type in the

refidgerator case.

Jaxi

> Hi, I live in Houston TX, hot hot hot also...

> I got a bottle of GTS KT and made some tea/sugar and put 1/2 bottle (8oz) of

> the KT in the tea 8oz in a 1 qt jar 16oz total and after 2 weeks had a nice

> scoby, 1/16 " then used it to graduate to more tea and a bigger container

> and now I have scobydoo's coming out of the wazoo....

>

> Use the GTS original.....

>

>>

>> Hello,

>> I moved from CT to Phoenix, AZ a year ago, and this is the first batch

>> that I have attempted in this new climate/environment. I could not move

>> my SCOBY, so I tried to get a new one going using a bottle of store-bought

>> Kombucha, it molded. It can get quite warm outside here, although we keep

>> the house between 78 and 84 degrees during the summer. Should I just

>> scrap the idea of trying to grow my own SCOBY, and look for a local

>> source? Or has anyone here had any luck growing one from store bought

>> KT?

>>

>> Thanks for your advice.

>>

>> craving KT in AZ,

>> Suzette

>>

>

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>

June 21, 2012

Thanks for that, Frantz. I enjoyed reading that IMO very good response to

Rezz the Intense! Yes: Everything in moderation is a healthy way to go both

physically and mentally.

Blessings and good gloog-gloogs ;-)

Margret:-)

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