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hannah already knows what she is getting, as she picks it out...a couple of

dolls, and polly pocket set...she is 14, but still loves this kind of thing, so

why fight it.

Cheryl S [chez]

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2008 21:39:05 -0500Subject: The holidays are upon us...

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my missy wants of rock band for the play station 2 and wants of dance

dance revolutions. At target they have of these small hard pastic

animals that are of collectors and such and forget of the cost but you

buy them individually well in that same line they have of warrior

fairies my missy wants of them too and she want the finger sort of

skate boarding toys. and she wants of some jewelry and DVDs.

My aimee wants of gift cards to book stores and hong kong buffet gift

cards which is of one of her favorite places to eat. she loves of the

vampire romances and so is much into the want of to see of the new

movie twilight as she read of hte series. I to be of not planning to

take of her but will give her a night out to do and see of it with her

husband.

for me I to want of movie passes, gift cards things and I to been of

collecting the kitchen tea fairies from the gift and card shops that

some malls have. they are of little figurines with the little girl

fairy with pigtails and is always doing something around food. I to

call them my little delaneys.I to also wanted of gift cards from the

mcdonalds and places of this. I to asked of the husband for a few

kitchen things for me but mostly i to want of my stimmy like play

things. I to love of Elephants and zebras and giraffs from world

markets of kirklands places. I to love of games like blockus wher eone

hasd to use of their logical thinking to solve and can play with people

and or by self with the game and I to love of the jigsaw puzzels that

are of called what do you see? and or the ones with larger pieces at

times when my eyes are of not doing well.

the husband is of getting me one things I to know of and that is of a

thing that has three slow cookers all into one grid things so you can

slow cook three things at the same time and not use of the stove to do

it. I to get upset because he ususally ask of me a list and then never

gets of the things i to list as wants for self but he does get me thing

he wants me to have even if it is not somethings i to wanted but some

tell me this is of a man things. But the slow cooker things does sound

like somehting could use so okay with that this year.

sondra

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Cheryl you are of a good mom to respect that and validate her wants and

joys in this life. not allmoms will validate this in us. Even me as

adult take of some of my dollhouse people and some of my african safari

toys with me in my back pack they bring me comfort and is of things

that still brings me pleasure to be playing with them . mostly like to

just set them into a pattern and or carry them near me. I to use to

hide them for years for fear of the people to around me to yell at me

or take them away from me so hid of them but not I to not be of to hide

of them if to want of them or need of them I to be of get them and it

does help me cope and transition and do things that cant do without the

security of them near me at times.

Thank you for sharing of this as it shows while you are of concerned

you love you daughter and validate her developmental ages and play/

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My daughter with autism wants a couple of different dollhouses and

some crayola products. My two typical girls both want American Girl

dolls & Nintendo DS. Don't know if they'll get both, unlikely unless

we find some used ones.

Debi

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She still takes 2 barbie dolls to church, and she probably will always...i dont

care what others think, over that now. she takes a kiddies book to read also,

thats what she loves. her shows on tv, are kiddies shows, she relates to them

best, so why stop her from watching what she loves, at least her mind isn't

getting all that other junk that teens get.

Cheryl S [chez]

To: Autism_in_Girls@...: hfa2@...: Mon, 24 Nov

2008 03:19:06 +0000Subject: Re: The holidays are upon us...

Cheryl you are of a good mom to respect that and validate her wants and joys in

this life. not allmoms will validate this in us. Even me as adult take of some

of my dollhouse people and some of my african safari toys with me in my back

pack they bring me comfort and is of things that still brings me pleasure to be

playing with them . mostly like to just set them into a pattern and or carry

them near me. I to use to hide them for years for fear of the people to around

me to yell at me or take them away from me so hid of them but not I to not be of

to hide of them if to want of them or need of them I to be of get them and it

does help me cope and transition and do things that cant do without the security

of them near me at times. Thank you for sharing of this as it shows while you

are of concerned you love you daughter and validate her developmental ages and

play/sondra

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Allie acts as if she's packing EVERY single time we leave. It doesn't

bother me if she wants to take a toy or two, but it's annoying because

at her age other kids wanna play with them and if she's gone through

all the trouble to take 'em with her, they are her comfort. I know

it's an opportunity to share, but gee, I wanna beg the other kids to

let the kid have her toys!! Also, she ends up leaving them in the van

half the time & then a huge junk pile accumulates. I need to get

better at making her take them out & putting them back in the proper

place.

Here lately I've been working on her backpack where what ever she

wants to take has to fit into her backpack. It worked out well in DC

last summer, that kid had a backpack of art supplies all over that

town. Rarely did she take 'em out but at one point on the subway Dinah

got really whiny that she was thirsty. Allie grinned & opened up her

backpack & handed Dinah a juice she had stored away. We made a big

joke about Allie having the magical backpack like Dora has. I have a

feeling when the time comes for Allie to carry feminine supplies it

will be a backpack purse instead of a one shoulder purse.

Debi

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Scarlet wind, how old is she? if she is of low verbal maybe some rich

in language based toys that help of her like my daughter who is of very

verbal but struggles to use words in right context and or speel of them

we got of her a talking dictionary one year that not only can she try

to spell of the words it also has language based games on it. Little V

tech has much much products that are of language enriched for kids so

this might be of a beginnner toy that helps her use a key boarding

device later if she is of still not able to use verbal words later to a

higher level because she needs some sort of outlet to have

communication for needs and wants.

sondra

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cheryl you have a very well balanced view with her and that is of what

i to admire of you as a mom person for her and you daughter sounds much

like of me. I to be fo able to watch some documentary sorts of shows

but prefer of kids based shows much disney sorts of movies and really

am of anxious to see of the new madagasgar movie. It is of a part of me

and is of just reflective of who I to be in this life and so now I to

just accept this is okay and that is shouldnot make me feel bad in this

life for it. I to not have of the problem it is of that others feel

uncomfortable and or unsure when they see of adults not acting like

adults and so that is of thier issues not of mine.

I to also cannot dress like grown up womans or such as cant find

anythings that brings me texture comfort with those sorts of clothings.

I to need of my soft sorts of clothing and so wear of sweats and such

and or jeans and often a mens cotton T shirt sort of clothings because

can tolerate of the texture of them not because i to have of gender

issues. some to assume it ot be of a gender issues.

sondra

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Do they have companys that cater to sensory (autistic) issues? I would love

to know

> cheryl you have a very well balanced view with her and that is of what

> i to admire of you as a mom person for her and you daughter sounds much

> like of me. I to be fo able to watch some documentary sorts of shows

> but prefer of kids based shows much disney sorts of movies and really

> am of anxious to see of the new madagasgar movie. It is of a part of me

> and is of just reflective of who I to be in this life and so now I to

> just accept this is okay and that is shouldnot make me feel bad in this

> life for it. I to not have of the problem it is of that others feel

> uncomfortable and or unsure when they see of adults not acting like

> adults and so that is of thier issues not of mine.

>

> I to also cannot dress like grown up womans or such as cant find

> anythings that brings me texture comfort with those sorts of clothings.

> I to need of my soft sorts of clothing and so wear of sweats and such

> and or jeans and often a mens cotton T shirt sort of clothings because

> can tolerate of the texture of them not because i to have of gender

> issues. some to assume it ot be of a gender issues.

> sondra

>

>

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debi I to use a back pack purse too because cant do the regular sort of

purse I to always leave of it or lose it so this works better for me to

bring of my things and to have of personal needs in it too such as

femine things and medicines and moeny for drinks and things. but mostly

work books and toys are of in there. once when was of looking for

something the one respite we had maked me feel bad for what I to had in

that bag and shared is that you bag and why would you carry such things

in it? I to had no clue to it being really socially innapropriate for

womans to have of such things but it was of my personal things and

couldnot explain of my whys of it to her, but for me it is of a self

adapted transitional piece for me. the world outside of my room is of

mass chaos so if I to have of some strong comfort things with me it

hels much so.

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(5 w/ASD) doesn't really 'get' Christmas yet... She doesn't get the

idea of seeing toys or items that she wants and asking for them. Many of her

shows on tv have no commercials till the end and since she watches Dora or

Diego 99.9% of the time we have to have them on the DVR as they don't air

when she is home. And then being on the DVR we can stop it at the end when

the commercials start.

But she does see commercials duing other shows or when watching TV with me

etc. and she doesn't ever so any indication that she may want something that

is shown.

So we really have to think of what we think she'll want/like/play with....

which is hard cause even though she is really into watching Dora and Diego,

she has yet to really want to play with any of their dolls or other types of

toys we've gotten her in the past.

I'm picking up a used Smart Cycle w/Dora game today from someone, and may

get the Diego game to go with it as well, and I've already got a Diego

fleece blanket for her bed, but otherwise I haven't a clue what to get for

her.

I'm thinking that maybe some small word/picture cards so that maybe she can

communicate with everyone a bit better, but I'm not sure if I should just

make them by finding pictures on the net and printing them and then

laminating them or if I should try to find some to buy online.... has anyone

purchased these before and know what the going price is, or have

suggestions?

I had thought about an AquaDoodle, but I've heard such bad reviews of them

that I don't think it'll be a good product to get for her.

We already have a TON of the things she likes to do and buying more of that

stuff (play doh, mr. potato head, puzzles) seems like such a waste cause we

literally have huge bins full of the stuff!

I'm pretty much done for my older NT daughter... she of course wants

everything in the world she sees. We just need to get stocking stuffers for

her now and probably a few clothing items. She wants a pull over hoodie...

even though we only have a few weeks of cold weather all year! LOL

Theresa

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> What are some things you'll be getting for your kids this holiday

> season? What is your daughter requesting?

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Absolutely! even Ebay has sensory toys! For more heavy duty stuff try www.

integrationcatalog.com.

> cheryl you have a very well balanced view with her and that is of what

> i to admire of you as a mom person for her and you daughter sounds much

> like of me. I to be fo able to watch some documentary sorts of shows

> but prefer of kids based shows much disney sorts of movies and really

> am of anxious to see of the new madagasgar movie. It is of a part of me

> and is of just reflective of who I to be in this life and so now I to

> just accept this is okay and that is shouldnot make me feel bad in this

> life for it. I to not have of the problem it is of that others feel

> uncomfortable and or unsure when they see of adults not acting like

> adults and so that is of thier issues not of mine.

>

> I to also cannot dress like grown up womans or such as cant find

> anythings that brings me texture comfort with those sorts of clothings.

> I to need of my soft sorts of clothing and so wear of sweats and such

> and or jeans and often a mens cotton T shirt sort of clothings because

> can tolerate of the texture of them not because i to have of gender

> issues. some to assume it ot be of a gender issues.

> sondra

>

>

>

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I think Allie was about 5-6 before she started getting it, and

probably would not have then were it not for Dora's video about a

present for Santa. She also started getting interested in other

Christmas-based themes in videos & her school always went out on it. I

think she was 6 or so before she would sit on Santa's lap.

I'll tell you a piece of technology I LOVE LOVE LOVE is the Leapster

L-Max. It's a kid video game with stylet. Leap Frog really got my

loyalty with that one. They are so durable it's not funny. A dear

friend's child with autism regularly pitches hers across the room & it

still works. They have game cartridges that have letters, math, etc.

The letters on the loose one they have a part where they can write the

letter with the stylet. Now it is annoying because it expects near

perfect tracing, but it has coloring and other things. I think it

helped Allie begin to get comfortable with writing.

HTH,

Debi

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What about clothing? For our children with textile issues? Are there places

out there we can

find cloths for them?

> Absolutely! even Ebay has sensory toys! For more heavy duty stuff try

> www. integrationcatalog.com.

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> > cheryl you have a very well balanced view with her and that is of what

> > i to admire of you as a mom person for her and you daughter sounds much

> > like of me. I to be fo able to watch some documentary sorts of shows

> > but prefer of kids based shows much disney sorts of movies and really

> > am of anxious to see of the new madagasgar movie. It is of a part of me

> > and is of just reflective of who I to be in this life and so now I to

> > just accept this is okay and that is shouldnot make me feel bad in this

> > life for it. I to not have of the problem it is of that others feel

> > uncomfortable and or unsure when they see of adults not acting like

> > adults and so that is of thier issues not of mine.

> >

> > I to also cannot dress like grown up womans or such as cant find

> > anythings that brings me texture comfort with those sorts of clothings.

> > I to need of my soft sorts of clothing and so wear of sweats and such

> > and or jeans and often a mens cotton T shirt sort of clothings because

> > can tolerate of the texture of them not because i to have of gender

> > issues. some to assume it ot be of a gender issues.

> > sondra

> >

> >

> >

>

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> Dare to dream, dare to fly, dare to be the ever chosen one to touch the

> sky.

>

> keeping family healthy the natural way

> with young living essential oils and natural supplements! !

>

> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ lilpixierose

> a great new group for EOs.

>

>

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Hi Cheryl,

I don't see anything wrong with Hannah still enjoying dolls. I've never been

one to try to push girls to grow up too soon, so I like her choices. My Peri is

JUST now starting to play with dolls, and she is 6 yrs. old. I hope she starts

to play with them in more appropriate ways soon. Right now she doesn't have

much creativity with them, so she swings them around and uses echolalia for any

speech the doll or she may have.

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The electric keyboard is a GREAT idea. My daughter got one of those last

Christmas and she STILL loves it!

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Hi Debi,

My daughter Peri likes her Leapster, too. She has about 7 cartridges for it and

it is truly durable. It was so easy for her to learn. I bought it for her for

her 6th birthday (this year) and I started her out with pre-school games. When

she mastered those, I went to the next grade up and so forth. I am hoping to

get her something more complex, like the next step up handheld electronic game,

but I haven't figured out which one would best suit her.

Karmen

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I think Allie was about 5-6 before she started getting it, and

probably would not have then were it not for Dora's video about a

present for Santa. She also started getting interested in other

Christmas-based themes in videos & her school always went out on it. I

think she was 6 or so before she would sit on Santa's lap.

I'll tell you a piece of technology I LOVE LOVE LOVE is the Leapster

L-Max. It's a kid video game with stylet. Leap Frog really got my

loyalty with that one. They are so durable it's not funny. A dear

friend's child with autism regularly pitches hers across the room & it

still works. They have game cartridges that have letters, math, etc.

The letters on the loose one they have a part where they can write the

letter with the stylet. Now it is annoying because it expects near

perfect tracing, but it has coloring and other things. I think it

helped Allie begin to get comfortable with writing.

HTH,

Debi

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I think they have some newer gaming systems, don't know if they are

more advanced or not. I also forgot to mention I accidently slammed

the stylet in the van door, crushing it. I called the Leap Frog

company and asked how much a replacement would cost. They said $5 but

not to worry & in 3 days I had a new one on my door at no cost. They

seem to be a very cool company.

Debi

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> Hi Debi,

>

> My daughter Peri likes her Leapster, too. She has about 7

cartridges for it and it is truly durable. It was so easy for her to

learn. I bought it for her for her 6th birthday (this year) and I

started her out with pre-school games. When she mastered those, I

went to the next grade up and so forth. I am hoping to get her

something more complex, like the next step up handheld electronic

game, but I haven't figured out which one would best suit her.

>

> Karmen

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> Scarlet wind, how old is she? if she is of low verbal maybe some rich

> in language based toys that help of her like my daughter who is of very

> verbal but struggles to use words in right context and or speel of them

> we got of her a talking dictionary one year that not only can she try

> to spell of the words it also has language based games on it. Little V

> tech has much much products that are of language enriched for kids so

> this might be of a beginnner toy that helps her use a key boarding

> device later if she is of still not able to use verbal words later to a

> higher level because she needs some sort of outlet to have

> communication for needs and wants.

> sondra

>

Thank you for your help about christmas toys to help her communicate.

I am going to look into Leap Frog's line of learning toys. I hadn't

given them much thought until your post and Debi's post about the

durability of the toys. The toys need to be very durable for my

. She is kind of rough on things. speaking of being rough on

things, has some rather destructive tendencies.

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> Scarlet wind, how old is she? if she is of low verbal maybe some rich

> in language based toys that help of her like my daughter who is of very

> verbal but struggles to use words in right context and or speel of them

> we got of her a talking dictionary one year that not only can she try

> to spell of the words it also has language based games on it. Little V

> tech has much much products that are of language enriched for kids so

> this might be of a beginnner toy that helps her use a key boarding

> device later if she is of still not able to use verbal words later to a

> higher level because she needs some sort of outlet to have

> communication for needs and wants.

> sondra

> i need help to try and understand why she tears up her matresses and

couch cushions and pulls the stuffing out . It is hard to cope with

this behavior and we are a low income family so it is hard to afford

new matresses too. please help w/any insight you might have.

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for kids who are of distructive and or rough on the toys one can buy

wide thick velcro and velcro them to kid size tables and or desks so

they cannot be removed easily. this way they sort of just stay there

and cant be of carryied around much. but the language enriched toys are

of very good for to help increase language as we often learn faster to

a computer sort of voice than to human voices not sure why but many

with autism do like of that sort of voice concepts. that is why so many

with autism fixate to comuputers because it is of so linear and visual

and such. verbal language is not visual or linear, it is forver

changing and inflections and tones and such change much within the same

person as well as from person to person. if the person woth auitsm is

of a visual person they may need the visual part of languge matched

with voice to learn.

sondra

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> for kids who are of distructive and or rough on the toys one can buy

> wide thick velcro and velcro them to kid size tables and or desks so

> they cannot be removed easily. this way they sort of just stay there

> and cant be of carryied around much. but the language enriched toys are

> of very good for to help increase language as we often learn faster to

> a computer sort of voice than to human voices not sure why but many

> with autism do like of that sort of voice concepts. that is why so many

> with autism fixate to comuputers because it is of so linear and visual

> and such. verbal language is not visual or linear, it is forver

> changing and inflections and tones and such change much within the same

> person as well as from person to person. if the person woth auitsm is

> of a visual person they may need the visual part of languge matched

> with voice to learn.

> sondra

>Thank you for advice the velcro. I never thought of that . Could you

lease give me any advice about how to keep her from destroying her

matresses and other furniture by taking the stuffing out of them? Do

you have any ideas why she may be doing this?

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you may need to buy of the things that zips over the mattress and

then buy of a mattress cover so she cannnot reach the mattress

easily. you can then buy of a fitted sheet that fits the mattress and

then buy of one that is of a size larger than her bed to tuck in this

will provide many layers of things to help keep of her from getting

to it before you catch of her doing of it.

a firm " NO " place a visual poster near her bed saying the rule " my

bed is for sleeping in " .

* here are some samples of rules to put, make sure to keep them to 3

or less of things you feel are infractions to her bed.....

no jumping

no picking

no tearing

so when ever you see of her doing these things make sure you use the

firm NO as she will learn over time this word and tone will give her

a consequence/ but then show her the rules to her bed/

when you see her doing the rules such as if you see of her just

laying there praise her by saying " I like how you are of laying in

you bed nicely " or some things that is of showing you like what she

is of doing but do not point out the fact she is not picking or

tearing as those words to her might trigger her to actually do the

action she just heared out of impulse because it might get stuck

inside of her echoing back you words to her at that moment. and that

echoing in her might lead to the action of picking and tearing.

if she had a good day of being nice to her bed and if she understands

the token things of rewards and can wait for them at the end of the

day allow her to earn a reward, but if she is of not there yet

developmentally then not do the token sorts of things yet/ as the

waiting might not be of associated to her good choices and might be

of seen by her as a fragmented things with no connection at the end

of her day.

sondra

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scarlet wind there are many things but that come to my thinking but

since not observing it not know which one it is of that I to be of

thinking and may be of one not even mentioned but will try:

one: our play does not look like typical play and for her this may be

of a fun play for her because it is of a cause and effect sorts of

things. she may be of at one time found a small hole and plcked it

and thus she found the stuffing and it became a play for her.

Two: It may be of a cause and effect and she is feeding off you

reactions to her behavior that might be of feeding it. sometimes

others do not know they are of actually feeding the behavior by their

rections. because the one reacting to us becomes silly in out visuals

of arms going about , voice tones changing and the mouth and eyes are

of doing so much movements and looking silly to us so we learned each

time we do this we get this silly person doing very funny animated

things and so we think this is of rewarding for us so we are

reinforced to continue the behavior. Because we lack the emotional

states of you and the social impacts and the fact that the damage we

have done for example (the bed)is now permanently damaged or

destroyed.

three: She may be of her communicating something about the bed that

is of not right and this ripping might be of her way to try to

problem solve and fix it? such as if it has an odor she does not like

or has a texture she does not like or if the mattress is older she

may be of feeling the pokes of the springs or the lumps of the

stuffing and she cant tolerate of that.

for the living room see if you can find a child size wooden rocker

for her that is of her chair and just redirect her every time you see

of her tearing at the sofa that this is of a " NO " firmly and guide

her to her chair saying this is you chair. it is for rocking and

watching TV or reading books. she is not forced to sit or stay there

but guided to know which one is of her chair and that is of to

distract her from the sofa. again you can for a time place a fitted

sheet over the sofa cushions so she cant reach the stuffing as

easily. they actually have of full sofa covers some what pricey but

less pricey then replacing the whole sofa.

the youngest son use to break down all the furniture by using them as

trampolines and for years we did not live in a place where we can put

of a large trampoline which was a strong sensory need for him. so

when we finally got of our home that was of a need we got through our

MRDD program and then he stopped using the furniture he loved of hims

trampoline . so I to understand of this frustrations of the lack of

income to replace over and over.

sondra

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