Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 If people can give me feedback on exactly what you are looking for, I'd be happy to initiate contact with The Option Institute to see if they can come down. I guess there are two types of things they could do 1) Just bring someone down to answer questions about the program itself without actually learning techniques but just broad basics about the program. 2) Actually perform a Start-Up Program workshop for those interested in learning the techniques. This is the more expensive of the two. When Jeff went up to Option for a week long Start-Up Program, I believe it was $1000-$1500 for 40 hours that week (but it also included room and board because they have lodging on site). That was in 1997. At least this is how it used to be. Raun Kaufman now runs the program (he is the child with autism who fully recovered and went on to Brown University). So many things might have changed since we were in contact with them. I used to have a videotape called "I Want My Son Back." The BBC had followed this one family on their journey from England, not knowing what would happen or what changes would happen to the child, etc. It was the videotape that sealed the deal for me. I'll check their website to see if it is available. If it is, I would be happy to lend it to the NHC-ASA to show at one of their meetings. It is about 2 hours. Hilda I would like to offer our meeting location to host such a workshop! Call NHC-ASA at or e-mail us at NorthwestHoustonChaperASA@... M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org "There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must." Subject: Re: Re: Speech Threapy- very longTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:53 AM  I would be interested in attending such a workshop. Count me in. Re: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Re: Speech Threapy- very long I would put money into an effort to bring someone from Son-Rise/Option Institute down here to have a start-up workshop in enough people were interested. I don't know if that is feasible, but I think a combination approach really helps many children. I know it helped tremendously. Hilda In a message dated 10/16/2008 7:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chatmom@kadenastrat egies.com writes: > > I would suggest that you contact CARD. Dr. Grenpeesheh, to myknowledge, is> one of the only people who has developed a curriculum for Theory ofMind and> executive functioning in the behavior community. What distinguishesthat> program is that they include Test of Problem Solving and other pragmatic> assessments as a part of their standard assessments. . . .somethingno other> behavior program that I am aware of in Texas does. Thanks, . Do you know if they take insurance or are affordable?I guess I'm kinda getting side-tracked. What I really was wonderingwas if anybody had tried manipulating Son-Rise orFloortime--themselv es, not paying someone else to do it--for older,higher functioning kids and knew of any good online sources or books.For the most part, I can't afford things like the above (they rarelytake insurance) and we don't get any services from the schools, sothat leaves it up to me. Which I guess is normal since everythingpretty much comes down to money.It sounds like a good program though--so thanks for posting it.Ruth They are negotiating with insurance providers as we speak. . . . .but whether your plan would cover it and how is a WHOLE other question. I do know when I priced the consulting bit. . .it wasn’t too expensive. That’s why I suggested inviting their person to come to you and gather up some local families and speech pathologists etc. who would be interested in this info and split the cost with them. You may even be able to get a local autism support group to host a meeting on this because it’s a topic in demand for more than just a few people I think. I do know that when I went to the Son-Rise website (don’t all you ABA people gasp in horror), I saw that Ron Kaufman mentioned adapting Son-Rise techniques for HFA kids. . . . .so I’m sure they are doing it. S. "Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. "Dwight D. 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Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I would like to offer our meeting location to host such a workshop! Call NHC-ASA at or e-mail us at NorthwestHoustonChaperASA@... M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org "There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must." Subject: Re: Re: Speech Threapy- very longTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:53 AM  I would be interested in attending such a workshop. Count me in. Re: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Re: Speech Threapy- very long I would put money into an effort to bring someone from Son-Rise/Option Institute down here to have a start-up workshop in enough people were interested. I don't know if that is feasible, but I think a combination approach really helps many children. I know it helped tremendously. Hilda In a message dated 10/16/2008 7:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chatmom@kadenastrat egies.com writes: > > I would suggest that you contact CARD. Dr. Grenpeesheh, to myknowledge, is> one of the only people who has developed a curriculum for Theory ofMind and> executive functioning in the behavior community. What distinguishesthat> program is that they include Test of Problem Solving and other pragmatic> assessments as a part of their standard assessments. . . .somethingno other> behavior program that I am aware of in Texas does. Thanks, . Do you know if they take insurance or are affordable?I guess I'm kinda getting side-tracked. What I really was wonderingwas if anybody had tried manipulating Son-Rise orFloortime--themselv es, not paying someone else to do it--for older,higher functioning kids and knew of any good online sources or books.For the most part, I can't afford things like the above (they rarelytake insurance) and we don't get any services from the schools, sothat leaves it up to me. Which I guess is normal since everythingpretty much comes down to money.It sounds like a good program though--so thanks for posting it.Ruth They are negotiating with insurance providers as we speak. . . . .but whether your plan would cover it and how is a WHOLE other question. I do know when I priced the consulting bit. . .it wasn’t too expensive. That’s why I suggested inviting their person to come to you and gather up some local families and speech pathologists etc. who would be interested in this info and split the cost with them. You may even be able to get a local autism support group to host a meeting on this because it’s a topic in demand for more than just a few people I think. I do know that when I went to the Son-Rise website (don’t all you ABA people gasp in horror), I saw that Ron Kaufman mentioned adapting Son-Rise techniques for HFA kids. . . . .so I’m sure they are doing it. S. "Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. "Dwight D. Eisenhower No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008 7:38 AM New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008  For me, before signing for a 1 week workshop , I would like to get a presentation and understand the philosophy, technique demonstrations ,..etc..I am assuming something like a one day presentation/demo.similar to the ABA 123s. Thanks, Re: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Re: Speech Threapy- very long I would put money into an effort to bring someone from Son-Rise/Option Institute down here to have a start-up workshop in enough people were interested. I don't know if that is feasible, but I think a combination approach really helps many children. I know it helped tremendously. Hilda In a message dated 10/16/2008 7:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chatmom@kadenastrat egies.com writes: > > I would suggest that you contact CARD. Dr. Grenpeesheh, to myknowledge, is> one of the only people who has developed a curriculum for Theory ofMind and> executive functioning in the behavior community. What distinguishesthat> program is that they include Test of Problem Solving and other pragmatic> assessments as a part of their standard assessments. . . .somethingno other> behavior program that I am aware of in Texas does. Thanks, . Do you know if they take insurance or are affordable?I guess I'm kinda getting side-tracked. What I really was wonderingwas if anybody had tried manipulating Son-Rise orFloortime--themselv es, not paying someone else to do it--for older,higher functioning kids and knew of any good online sources or books.For the most part, I can't afford things like the above (they rarelytake insurance) and we don't get any services from the schools, sothat leaves it up to me. Which I guess is normal since everythingpretty much comes down to money.It sounds like a good program though--so thanks for posting it.Ruth They are negotiating with insurance providers as we speak. . . . .but whether your plan would cover it and how is a WHOLE other question. I do know when I priced the consulting bit. . .it wasn’t too expensive. That’s why I suggested inviting their person to come to you and gather up some local families and speech pathologists etc. who would be interested in this info and split the cost with them. You may even be able to get a local autism support group to host a meeting on this because it’s a topic in demand for more than just a few people I think. I do know that when I went to the Son-Rise website (don’t all you ABA people gasp in horror), I saw that Ron Kaufman mentioned adapting Son-Rise techniques for HFA kids. . . . .so I’m sure they are doing it. S. "Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. "Dwight D. Eisenhower No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008 7:38 AM New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Here is an article that offers insight into the DIR programming http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/magazine/19Autism-t.html?_r=1 & hp & oref=sloginFrom: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of M. GuppySent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:05 AMTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Cc: hildabowen@...Subject: Workshop on Son-Rise program.........I would like to offer our meeting location to host such a workshop! Call NHC-ASA at or e-mail us at NorthwestHoustonChaperASA@... M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org"There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must."Subject: Re: Re: Speech Threapy- very longTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:53 AM I would be interested in attending such a workshop. Count me in. Re: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Re: Speech Threapy- very longI would put money into an effort to bring someone from Son-Rise/Option Institute down here to have a start-up workshop in enough people were interested. I don't know if that is feasible, but I think a combination approach really helps many children. I know it helped tremendously. Hilda In a message dated 10/16/2008 7:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chatmom@kadenastrat egies.com writes: > > I would suggest that you contact CARD. Dr. Grenpeesheh, to myknowledge, is> one of the only people who has developed a curriculum for Theory ofMind and> executive functioning in the behavior community. What distinguishesthat> program is that they include Test of Problem Solving and other pragmatic> assessments as a part of their standard assessments. . . .somethingno other> behavior program that I am aware of in Texas does. Thanks, . Do you know if they take insurance or are affordable?I guess I'm kinda getting side-tracked. What I really was wonderingwas if anybody had tried manipulating Son-Rise orFloortime--themselv es, not paying someone else to do it--for older,higher functioning kids and knew of any good online sources or books.For the most part, I can't afford things like the above (they rarelytake insurance) and we don't get any services from the schools, sothat leaves it up to me. Which I guess is normal since everythingpretty much comes down to money.It sounds like a good program though--so thanks for posting it.RuthThey are negotiating with insurance providers as we speak. . . . .but whether your plan would cover it and how is a WHOLE other question.I do know when I priced the consulting bit. . .it wasn’t too expensive. That’s why I suggested inviting their person to come to you and gather up some local families and speech pathologists etc. who would be interested in this info and split the cost with them. You may even be able to get a local autism support group to host a meeting on this because it’s a topic in demand for more than just a few people I think.I do know that when I went to the Son-Rise website (don’t all you ABA people gasp in horror), I saw that Ron Kaufman mentioned adapting Son-Rise techniques for HFA kids. . . . .so I’m sure they are doing it. S."Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. "Dwight D. EisenhowerNo virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008 7:38 AMNew MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 We are talking to Raun Kaufman about being a Keynote speaker for our October 2009 conference in Tomball. They very much want to be.... That just will depend on costs... We have a policy to not pay speakers - because we as officers of the chapter don't get paid for our time. If a sponsor wants to pay their fee - that is fine -- but our chapter cannot. So - if they want to come and educate -- they are welcome to be part of our conference or we will gladly host an educational workshop for parents -- but we can't pay speaker fee's. We have in the past helped with gas/mileage and travel expenses -- but that is it. Sincerely M. GuppyMy autism journey isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.... Texas Autism Advocacy: www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org "There are some aspects of a person's life that we have no right to compromise. We cannot negotiate the size of an institution. No one should live in one. We cannot debate who should get an inclusive education. Everyone should. We cannot determine who does and who does not get the right to make their own choices and forge their own futures. All must." Subject: Re: Re: Speech Threapy- very longTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:53 AM  I would be interested in attending such a workshop. Count me in. Re: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Re: Speech Threapy- very long I would put money into an effort to bring someone from Son-Rise/Option Institute down here to have a start-up workshop in enough people were interested. I don't know if that is feasible, but I think a combination approach really helps many children. I know it helped tremendously. Hilda In a message dated 10/16/2008 7:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chatmom@kadenastrat egies.com writes: > > I would suggest that you contact CARD. Dr. Grenpeesheh, to myknowledge, is> one of the only people who has developed a curriculum for Theory ofMind and> executive functioning in the behavior community. What distinguishesthat> program is that they include Test of Problem Solving and other pragmatic> assessments as a part of their standard assessments. . . .somethingno other> behavior program that I am aware of in Texas does. Thanks, . Do you know if they take insurance or are affordable?I guess I'm kinda getting side-tracked. What I really was wonderingwas if anybody had tried manipulating Son-Rise orFloortime--themselv es, not paying someone else to do it--for older,higher functioning kids and knew of any good online sources or books.For the most part, I can't afford things like the above (they rarelytake insurance) and we don't get any services from the schools, sothat leaves it up to me. Which I guess is normal since everythingpretty much comes down to money.It sounds like a good program though--so thanks for posting it.Ruth They are negotiating with insurance providers as we speak. . . . .but whether your plan would cover it and how is a WHOLE other question. I do know when I priced the consulting bit. . .it wasn’t too expensive. That’s why I suggested inviting their person to come to you and gather up some local families and speech pathologists etc. who would be interested in this info and split the cost with them. You may even be able to get a local autism support group to host a meeting on this because it’s a topic in demand for more than just a few people I think. I do know that when I went to the Son-Rise website (don’t all you ABA people gasp in horror), I saw that Ron Kaufman mentioned adapting Son-Rise techniques for HFA kids. . . . .so I’m sure they are doing it. S. "Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. "Dwight D. Eisenhower No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008 7:38 AM New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hello All Parents and Professionals, We have tuition assistance cards for any family interesting in going ti Son-Rise Program Autism Treatment Center of America visit www.includingautism.org go to contact page we will send you the card for $200 to help pay for your tuition. Subject: Re: Re: Speech Threapy- very longTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:53 AM  I would be interested in attending such a workshop. Count me in. Re: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Re: Speech Threapy- very long I would put money into an effort to bring someone from Son-Rise/Option Institute down here to have a start-up workshop in enough people were interested. I don't know if that is feasible, but I think a combination approach really helps many children. I know it helped tremendously. Hilda In a message dated 10/16/2008 7:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chatmom@kadenastrat egies.com writes: > > I would suggest that you contact CARD. Dr. Grenpeesheh, to myknowledge, is> one of the only people who has developed a curriculum for Theory ofMind and> executive functioning in the behavior community. What distinguishesthat> program is that they include Test of Problem Solving and other pragmatic> assessments as a part of their standard assessments. . . .somethingno other> behavior program that I am aware of in Texas does. Thanks, . Do you know if they take insurance or are affordable?I guess I'm kinda getting side-tracked. What I really was wonderingwas if anybody had tried manipulating Son-Rise orFloortime--themselv es, not paying someone else to do it--for older,higher functioning kids and knew of any good online sources or books.For the most part, I can't afford things like the above (they rarelytake insurance) and we don't get any services from the schools, sothat leaves it up to me. Which I guess is normal since everythingpretty much comes down to money.It sounds like a good program though--so thanks for posting it.Ruth They are negotiating with insurance providers as we speak. . . . .but whether your plan would cover it and how is a WHOLE other question. I do know when I priced the consulting bit. . .it wasn’t too expensive. That’s why I suggested inviting their person to come to you and gather up some local families and speech pathologists etc. who would be interested in this info and split the cost with them. You may even be able to get a local autism support group to host a meeting on this because it’s a topic in demand for more than just a few people I think. I do know that when I went to the Son-Rise website (don’t all you ABA people gasp in horror), I saw that Ron Kaufman mentioned adapting Son-Rise techniques for HFA kids. . . . .so I’m sure they are doing it. S. "Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. "Dwight D. Eisenhower No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1728 - Release Date: 10/16/2008 7:38 AM New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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