Re: Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?

[Guest guest]

Fortunately for our family, both of my kids hate mcnuggets- now. One day, my n/t 9 y/o daughter got one that had several unidentifiable,different colored "particles" in hers and she said "You know, Mom, these are really gross. If we Have to eat Mc's, I'm getting the strips because they look like real chicken should." YUCK! and Thanks for sharing this!

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Subject: Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 6:29 AM

Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?Food Matters | Chicken NuggetWritten by Charlotte Gerson as featured in Food MattersMcs chicken nuggets are a favourite with children in manyfamilies. Parents buy the ‘chicken nuggets' believing they are indeedmade from just chicken. Mcs even provides flyers titled "A FullServing of Nutrition Facts: Choose the Best Meal for You." However asyou can see from the ingredient list below, there is a lot more thanjust chicken.Chicken, water, salt, modified cornstarch, sodium phosphates, chickenbroth powder (chicken broth, salt, and natural flavoring (chickensource)), seasoning (vegetable oil, extracts of rosemary, mono, di-and triglycerides, lecithin). Battered and breaded with water,enriched bleached wheat flour (niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate,riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat

flour,modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acidpyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate,calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, dried whey, corn starch.Batter set in vegetable shortening. Cooked in partially hydrogenatedvegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/orpartially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canolaoil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). TBHQand citric acid added to help preserve freshness. Dimethylpolysiloxan eadded as an anti-foaming agent.There are 38 ingredients in a McNugget; many of them made from corn.Further down the list there are the mono, diandtriglycerides, and theemulsifiers that keep the fats and the water from separating. Morecorn flour is used to make the batter, and the hydrogenated oil inwhich the nuggets are fried can come from soybeans, canola

orcottonseed, depending on the market price.It gets worse: a number of the ingredients come from petroleumproducts, to keep the items from spoiling or ‘looking strange' aftermonths in the freezer or on the road. If you are truly worried, lookup these ingredients: sodium aluminum phosphate; mono-calciumphosphate, sodium acid pyrophosphate, and calcium lactate. These areused to keep the animal and vegetable fats from turning rancid. Thenthere are "anti foaming" agents like dimethylpolysiloxen e. Accordingto the Handbook of Food Additives, this material is a suspectedcarcinogen and an established mutagen, tumorigenic, and reproductiveeffector. It is also flammable.The most alarming ingredient in Chicken McNuggets is "tertiary butylhydroquinone, " or TBHQ, derived from petroleum. This is sprayeddirectly on the nugget or the inside of the box it comes in to "helppreserve freshness."

Again, according to A Consumer's Dictionary ofFood Additives, TBHQ is a form of butane (lighter fluid) the FDAallows processors to use sparingly in our food. It can comprise nomore than 0.02 percent of the oil in a nugget. Which is probably justas well, considering that ingesting a single gram of TBHQ can cause"nausea, vomiting, ringing in the ears, delirium, a sense ofsuffocation, and collapse." Ingesting five grams can be fatal.Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?Source: the Gerson Healing Newsletter - www.gerson.orgHOME | THE FILM | LEARN MORE | NUTRITION | LIFESTYLE | DETOXIFICATION| BOOKS & DVD | SITE MAP | AFFILIATES | CONTACT USCANCER | HEART DISEASE | DIABETES | DEPRESSION | MENTAL ILLNESS |WEIGHT LOSS | OPTIMUM HEALTHCopyright © 2008 Permacology Productions Pty Ltd All Rights ReservedTerms of Use | Disclaimer | Privacy

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[Guest guest]

My son became addicted to the McNugget shortly after his regression

into autism. We did intensive dietary intervention using Body

Ecology Diet. I thought it so interesting as he healed watching his

stools change from foul diahrea to daily and formed. We saw every

color and horrible odors as he cleansed.

Why I posted with this post is that once we started young coconut

kefir and took him down to 20 foods (mostly vegetables) he had a

chemical/almost paint smell in his stool for weeks. I couldn't

help but wonder if this came from his previous diet or from all the

chemicals in vaccines. Who knows?

I later found out that many, if not all following the protocol we did

had experienced the same thing. It was unreal. Strong odor almost

like walking into a freshly painted room. Not quite the same odor

though. Kind of like a mothball.

McNuggets are sadly feeding dysbiosis and continuing to poison the

body with toxins from the gut bugs. However even gfcf nuggets can

do the same thing in a sick gut. It's vital to get back to whole

foods. Many doing gfcf try to replicate the standard american diet

with old favorites. Not a good idea if you want the child to

heal. A gfcf brownie or chicken nugget will not recover a child

from fungal infections, congested liver,dysbiosis, viral infections,

and gut damage. If you try a gfcf diet and see no result you may

want to take the next step removing corn, soy, processed, sugar,

maybe grains as in SCD.

>

>

> Subject: Do you really want to give your

kids Chicken McNuggets?

> To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 6:29 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?

>

> Food Matters | Chicken Nugget

>

> Written by Charlotte Gerson as featured in Food Matters

>

> Mcs chicken nuggets are a favourite with children in many

> families. Parents buy the ‘chicken nuggets' believing they are

indeed

> made from just chicken. Mcs even provides flyers titled " A

Full

> Serving of Nutrition Facts: Choose the Best Meal for You. " However

as

> you can see from the ingredient list below, there is a lot more than

> just chicken.

>

> Chicken, water, salt, modified cornstarch, sodium phosphates,

chicken

> broth powder (chicken broth, salt, and natural flavoring (chicken

> source)), seasoning (vegetable oil, extracts of rosemary, mono, di-

> and triglycerides, lecithin). Battered and breaded with water,

> enriched bleached wheat flour (niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate,

> riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour,

> modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid

> pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate,

> calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, dried whey, corn starch.

> Batter set in vegetable shortening. Cooked in partially hydrogenated

> vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil

and/or

> partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola

> oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil).

TBHQ

> and citric acid added to help preserve freshness.

Dimethylpolysiloxan e

> added as an anti-foaming agent.

>

> There are 38 ingredients in a McNugget; many of them made from corn.

> Further down the list there are the mono, diandtriglycerides, and

the

> emulsifiers that keep the fats and the water from separating. More

> corn flour is used to make the batter, and the hydrogenated oil in

> which the nuggets are fried can come from soybeans, canola or

> cottonseed, depending on the market price.

>

> It gets worse: a number of the ingredients come from petroleum

> products, to keep the items from spoiling or ‘looking strange'

after

> months in the freezer or on the road. If you are truly worried, look

> up these ingredients: sodium aluminum phosphate; mono-calcium

> phosphate, sodium acid pyrophosphate, and calcium lactate. These are

> used to keep the animal and vegetable fats from turning rancid. Then

> there are " anti foaming " agents like dimethylpolysiloxen e.

According

> to the Handbook of Food Additives, this material is a suspected

> carcinogen and an established mutagen, tumorigenic, and reproductive

> effector. It is also flammable.

>

> The most alarming ingredient in Chicken McNuggets is " tertiary butyl

> hydroquinone, " or TBHQ, derived from petroleum. This is sprayed

> directly on the nugget or the inside of the box it comes in to " help

> preserve freshness. " Again, according to A Consumer's Dictionary of

> Food Additives, TBHQ is a form of butane (lighter fluid) the FDA

> allows processors to use sparingly in our food. It can comprise no

> more than 0.02 percent of the oil in a nugget. Which is probably

just

> as well, considering that ingesting a single gram of TBHQ can cause

> " nausea, vomiting, ringing in the ears, delirium, a sense of

> suffocation, and collapse. " Ingesting five grams can be fatal.

>

> Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?

>

> Source: the Gerson Healing Newsletter - www.gerson.org

>

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> | BOOKS & DVD | SITE MAP | AFFILIATES | CONTACT US

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[Guest guest]

My son was also addicted but what did I know when my son was a

youngster. None of this stuff was mentioned back then in the 80's and

throughout the years or was I ready to get educated.

We now stay away from Mc's. Doc's do not study this in medical

schools.

We actually had a wonderful Thanksgiving with the extra meals I cooked

for my son, he loved it!!! Pat on the back for this challenge given as

my family tasted it and they actually preferred it too.

This morning my son came up to me, said " mom " , gave me a kiss, to me

this is all worth the challenges.

Can imagine bombarded with all the toxic in my son's system & ours,

currently being detoxified which is another chapter. All worth it though.

Learning with the flow nowadays and scary to see what we are eating

and drinking or should I say what FDA has approved.

Very true on your last sentence on your post.

Alot of them are GMO and thensome.

Right now on CNNHD is a segment going on

Special Investigations Unit

America's Killer Diet

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/siu/shows/fed.up/

Irma

>

> My son became addicted to the McNugget shortly after his regression

> into autism. We did intensive dietary intervention using Body

> Ecology Diet. I thought it so interesting as he healed watching his

> stools change from foul diahrea to daily and formed. We saw every

> color and horrible odors as he cleansed.

>

> Why I posted with this post is that once we started young coconut

> kefir and took him down to 20 foods (mostly vegetables) he had a

> chemical/almost paint smell in his stool for weeks. I couldn't

> help but wonder if this came from his previous diet or from all the

> chemicals in vaccines. Who knows?

>

> I later found out that many, if not all following the protocol we did

> had experienced the same thing. It was unreal. Strong odor almost

> like walking into a freshly painted room. Not quite the same odor

> though. Kind of like a mothball.

>

> McNuggets are sadly feeding dysbiosis and continuing to poison the

> body with toxins from the gut bugs. However even gfcf nuggets can

> do the same thing in a sick gut. It's vital to get back to whole

> foods. Many doing gfcf try to replicate the standard american diet

> with old favorites. Not a good idea if you want the child to

> heal. A gfcf brownie or chicken nugget will not recover a child

> from fungal infections, congested liver,dysbiosis, viral infections,

> and gut damage. If you try a gfcf diet and see no result you may

> want to take the next step removing corn, soy, processed, sugar,

> maybe grains as in SCD.

>

[Guest guest]

Irma,

this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and now

he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's hard

to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them off of

those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

> >

> > My son became addicted to the McNugget shortly after his

regression

> > into autism. We did intensive dietary intervention using Body

> > Ecology Diet. I thought it so interesting as he healed watching

his

> > stools change from foul diahrea to daily and formed. We saw

every

> > color and horrible odors as he cleansed.

> >

> > Why I posted with this post is that once we started young coconut

> > kefir and took him down to 20 foods (mostly vegetables) he had a

> > chemical/almost paint smell in his stool for weeks. I couldn't

> > help but wonder if this came from his previous diet or from all

the

> > chemicals in vaccines. Who knows?

> >

> > I later found out that many, if not all following the protocol we

did

> > had experienced the same thing. It was unreal. Strong odor

almost

> > like walking into a freshly painted room. Not quite the same

odor

> > though. Kind of like a mothball.

> >

> > McNuggets are sadly feeding dysbiosis and continuing to poison

the

> > body with toxins from the gut bugs. However even gfcf nuggets

can

> > do the same thing in a sick gut. It's vital to get back to

whole

> > foods. Many doing gfcf try to replicate the standard american

diet

> > with old favorites. Not a good idea if you want the child to

> > heal. A gfcf brownie or chicken nugget will not recover a child

> > from fungal infections, congested liver,dysbiosis, viral

infections,

> > and gut damage. If you try a gfcf diet and see no result you may

> > want to take the next step removing corn, soy, processed, sugar,

> > maybe grains as in SCD.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Irma,

>

> this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and now

> he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's hard

> to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them off

of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

Hope no one minds on what I have to share here on the listserve,

figure someone could also benefit on some trial when undergoing this

journey experimenting for when finding alternatives.

Ok, depending on your child, are you experiencing Gluten-Free or

Casein-Free?

If none, hopefully you could run across someone that will open a

Chick-Filet. Save for reference should anyone open one up out there or

when out here out and about sister cities. Here is why? The Waffle

potato are Gluten-Free versus McD's.

Just a hint for those looking for good chicken nuggets. If you have a

Chic Filet. You can ask for nuggets without breading and ask for them

to be put through the char grill machine, not in th fryer. Now this

would not be good for those with true allergies where breathing

difficulties could occur because Chic Fil A does have flours in their

kitchen so cross contamination could occur, gets some of the

spices, just none of the wheat associated with breaded nuggets.

Also, you could ask for nugget trays to be done this way and then

freeze the nuggets. Nope unfortunately not making profit of this.

This tip was shared my way from several online friends on this journey.

If Gluten Free:

(suggestion limit or avoid soy flour and cornstarch)

High-Protein Gluten-Free Flour Blend

1¼ cups bean flour (of choice), chickpea flour or soy flour

1 cup arrowroot starch, cornstarch or potato starch

1 cup tapioca starch/flour

1 cup white or brown rice flour

Combine flours together. Refrigerate and store in tightly covered

container until used.

http://www.livingwithout.com/erecipes/gingersnaps_lwo_11.26.08.html

Whenever you have an opportunity to, there are some wonderful recipes

here on this site or subscribe to Living Without Magazine.

The Magazine for People with Allergies and Food Sensitivities

http://www.livingwithout.com/recipes.html

This recipe is from an Autism One Conference I had attended from a

wonderful chef, now remember recipe could be tweaked around the

individual's diet.

This is from Special Eats, simple, Delicious Solutions for

Gluten-Free & Dairy Free by Sueson Louise Vess

http://www.specialeats.com/

Old-Fashioned Fried Chicken recipe which I use for chicken strips/Nugget.

This came out on the Living Without Magazine

http://www.livingwithout.com/recipes/old_fashioned_fried_chicken.html

Irma

[Guest guest]

How to get them off nuggets. It's not about better parenting. I

wish it were that simple for all of us.

Of course you as the parent will have to change habits and decide

what food comes into the house and your child's body. This will be

step one.

But for the real challenge.....why are they such addicts? It's not

you.

It's GUT DAMAGE. They have had insult on the immune system and have

essentially gut bugs growing. Dysbiosis, fungal infections

etc..... So in addition to starving the bad bugs by not feeding them

their food source of nuggets, we will also want to add healing foods

that deliver healthy gut flora to the gut.

We used body ecology diet. One healing food is young coconut

kefir. It's a probiotic beverage. The best probiotic around is

VSL #3. However I personally wouldn't waste money on a probiotic

when you are feeding a child foods that feed the dysbiosis. It

really needs to be tackled on both ends. Starve the bugs and load

the body with healthy bacteria.

Best to you, it's a challenge but worth it. What will this do for

every child of course one can't assume. However 7 is quite young and

habits can still be established. I never think it's too late.

> > >

> > > My son became addicted to the McNugget shortly after his

> regression

> > > into autism. We did intensive dietary intervention using

Body

> > > Ecology Diet. I thought it so interesting as he healed

watching

> his

> > > stools change from foul diahrea to daily and formed. We saw

> every

> > > color and horrible odors as he cleansed.

> > >

> > > Why I posted with this post is that once we started young

coconut

> > > kefir and took him down to 20 foods (mostly vegetables) he had

a

> > > chemical/almost paint smell in his stool for weeks. I

couldn't

> > > help but wonder if this came from his previous diet or from all

> the

> > > chemicals in vaccines. Who knows?

> > >

> > > I later found out that many, if not all following the protocol

we

> did

> > > had experienced the same thing. It was unreal. Strong odor

> almost

> > > like walking into a freshly painted room. Not quite the same

> odor

> > > though. Kind of like a mothball.

> > >

> > > McNuggets are sadly feeding dysbiosis and continuing to poison

> the

> > > body with toxins from the gut bugs. However even gfcf nuggets

> can

> > > do the same thing in a sick gut. It's vital to get back to

> whole

> > > foods. Many doing gfcf try to replicate the standard american

> diet

> > > with old favorites. Not a good idea if you want the child to

> > > heal. A gfcf brownie or chicken nugget will not recover a

child

> > > from fungal infections, congested liver,dysbiosis, viral

> infections,

> > > and gut damage. If you try a gfcf diet and see no result you

may

> > > want to take the next step removing corn, soy, processed,

sugar,

> > > maybe grains as in SCD.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry alittle behind.... Some how all my messages got erased or something... Any

how what's wrong with nuggets... Is it all nuggets?

--- Original Message ---

Sent:Mon 12/1/08 8:41 am

To:Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Subj: Re: Do you really want to give your kids Chicken

McNuggets?

> this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and now

> he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's hard

> to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them off

of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible

culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my son's

case.

Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's, especially

because I had to actually avoid any play areas.

This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play

tunnels and ball pits.

So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken McNuggets

just staying away.

I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me preventing

from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas.

Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what McD's

had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities

(sensory integration dysfunction), slowly begin just cooking grill

chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate them

and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the next

intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my weakness

making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older age while

attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school staff of

team during these school years when we all had learn about autism

(topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food.

There is a wonderful book out which probably would of helped me out

when once upon a time my son " WAS " a picky eater.

Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and Eating

Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple Grandin

(Foreword by).

I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to confront any

challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a lot. This

is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter.

Irma

[Guest guest]

> this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and now

> he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's hard

> to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them off

of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible

culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my son's

case.

Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's, especially

because I had to actually avoid any play areas.

This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play

tunnels and ball pits.

So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken McNuggets

just staying away.

I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me preventing

from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas.

Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what McD's

had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities

(sensory integration dysfunction), slowly begin just cooking grill

chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate them

and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the next

intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my weakness

making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older age while

attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school staff of

team during these school years when we all had learn about autism

(topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food.

There is a wonderful book out which probably would of helped me out

when once upon a time my son " WAS " a picky eater.

Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and Eating

Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple Grandin

(Foreword by).

I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to confront any

challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a lot. This

is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter.

Irma

[Guest guest]

my son's dad was the type that would have to eat 3 square meals a day

and well guess what? my son is that way too..if he doesnt get his

meals, he 'freaks out'. Im at my wits end with the eating situation

at school. I ask them if he's eaten and they give the 'he ate'..then

i ask them 'what?'...they say: 'yogurt'...now, a kid like mine doesnt

just need yogurt for the 51/2 hrs he's at school, hence,

the 'tantrums'. i have tried to find an alternative but it only

lasts for a little while.

The public, the teachers tend to judge you because they say your not

doing a good job weening your child off of the stuff but it is

difficult w our children.

>

> > this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and

now

> > he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's

hard

> > to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them off

> of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

>

>

> It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible

> culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my

son's

> case.

> Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's, especially

> because I had to actually avoid any play areas.

> This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play

> tunnels and ball pits.

> So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken

McNuggets

> just staying away.

> I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me preventing

> from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas.

> Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what McD's

> had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities

> (sensory integration dysfunction), slowly begin just cooking grill

> chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate them

> and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the next

> intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my

weakness

> making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older age

while

> attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school staff

of

> team during these school years when we all had learn about autism

> (topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food.

>

> There is a wonderful book out which probably would of helped me out

> when once upon a time my son " WAS " a picky eater.

>

> Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and

Eating

> Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple Grandin

> (Foreword by).

>

> I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to confront

any

> challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a lot.

This

> is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter.

>

> Irma

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sorry alittle behind.... Some how all my messages got erased or

something... Any how what's wrong with nuggets... Is it all nuggets?

Here is a site similar to the first post.

Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?

http://beaveggie.blogspot.com/2008/11/do-you-really-want-to-give-your-kids.html

What's Really in a Mc's Chicken McNugget?

http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/What-s-Really-in-a-Mc-s-Chicken-McN\

ugget--8489.aspx

Ok, do not really want to rain on anyone's parade when sharing these

types of posting but since my son has open the doors for our family

when learning & dealing with any challenges thrown our way and to read

or experience what we go through.

I tend to never stop learning as our Dear Lord gives me the strength

needed to take me to figure out solutions to help my son of course it

really hits when finding some of the hidden culprits.

This is what we are taught/told,

" We see all kinds of ads, and your pediatrician confirms, that milk is

an important nutrient that kids need to grow up and build a strong and

healthy body. The well advertised " milk mustache " ad claims that " Milk

Does a Body Good. "

Example like on the milk.

This is on:

How Many Pus Cells Are In Your Milk?

http://www.foodmatters.tv/pus-cells-in-your-milk.html

Actual lab results shown in my son's case has been such overwhelming

when my son ends up eating one of the many culprits and glad finally

we are able to address it.

Buckwheat, wheat gluten, Gliadin, Yeast,Brewers, Casein, Yogurt, Whey,

Beef, Milk, Egg whites, just to mention. So what fun working around it

and also learning about the toxics injected into our food items to

name where I never would of imagine until told that his toxics are not

flushing out and what a scare to observe when my son suffers from

ongoing underlying medical issues. Unable to tell us as he is

nonverbal and none of the conventional medical professionals who

worked with him could detect anything but yet witnessed how sick he

was getting so this is why I am on this journey that I have transition

wearing this hat. Is it over? No, it is just the beginning because it

is empowering many on the Legislature board too as I am running across

with treatments, supplements, dietary intervention (bio-med

intervention) that my son benefits from and this is just the piece of

the pie as this does become another chapter.

Wishing everyone well on your journey and take it one day at a time,

do not get too overwhelmed until one is ready to seek this mission.

Irma

[Guest guest]

The public is awful harsh on parents thinking we just won't take the

time to ween them off these foods.

We have to establish a new gut terrain for the child to accept new

foods. It's a process, but possible step by step. A person coming

off of heroin isn't a brat and neither is a child self medicating

with casein.

Many understand the challenge you face, you are not alone.

> >

> > > this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and

> now

> > > he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's

> hard

> > > to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them

off

> > of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

> >

> >

> > It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible

> > culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my

> son's

> > case.

> > Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's,

especially

> > because I had to actually avoid any play areas.

> > This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play

> > tunnels and ball pits.

> > So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken

> McNuggets

> > just staying away.

> > I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me

preventing

> > from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas.

> > Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what

McD's

> > had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities

> > (sensory integration dysfunction), slowly begin just cooking grill

> > chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate

them

> > and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the next

> > intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my

> weakness

> > making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older age

> while

> > attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school

staff

> of

> > team during these school years when we all had learn about autism

> > (topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food.

> >

> > There is a wonderful book out which probably would of helped me

out

> > when once upon a time my son " WAS " a picky eater.

> >

> > Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and

> Eating

> > Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple Grandin

> > (Foreword by).

> >

> > I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to

confront

> any

> > challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a lot.

> This

> > is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter.

> >

> > Irma

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You know with several of the schools that my son attended and he was

beginning to show excessive absences it was all due to the food

allergies/intolerance he suffered from. I am very grateful during the

latter part of his middle school years, I was not the " Crazy mom " .

They got to witness so much, high school years were so & so, they were

more on their mode just thinking of preparation of employment, another

chapter.

Once entering the vocational transition Program. Oh boy, another

battle dealing with them, were told so much yet they tried working

with me but their stigma was like a one size fits alls program.

I would tell them that I have come a long way with my son that if he

were to be admitted into ER once again due to the lack of following

the IEP of one of the goals of jotting down a simple format on the

communication notes my way, that they were going to have to pay for

his medical expenses. This was not in a threatening manner as I had

all my documents to prove to them on why I seek this mission and

working around their programs. Especially when told that my son was

sent to the school nurse, had to lie down, lethargic, aggressive

behavior, especially ongoing fever, etc.

Having some proof/documents of what you do at home & of course

documents from any medical team working with your child could also help.

I know easy said than done but I had to THINK as an attorney and THINK

like a detective, always staying on top of whatever needed. I had to

THINK like when a person suffers from Diabetes or peanut allergies, no

way was anyone going to judge me or get my son ill, if so had to THINK

in their mind frame similar as a psychologist.

I have made numerous friends among the school district my son attended

so they knew I was pretty proactive, not that you're not and I did try

to work around my son's issues the best possible way as I to was

learning on this journey and only dealing with my son's issues while

they had to deal with more than one student. I was going to make sure

to accommodate the best possible way I could.

I would jot down all my son's favorite interest, favorite food items.

Were you asking just for lunch or snacks?

Let's say like the yogurt, if you do not want the teacher or staff to

give him the yogurt, what other food/snack items would he like?

If you find something make sure you do not give it at home, this is

only allowed at school and rotate it with something else.

It is having a bag of tricks/snacks, applesauce, since my son's room

had a refrigerator, his favorite casein-free ice cream, GF/CF personal

pizza slices, GF/CF cookies, GF/CF cupcake, GF/CF cake/pie slice,

GF/CF chips, Rice cake with Almond butter or with Pita chips with

Hummus Organic, drinks, etc.

If your child is not into the GF/CF diet, then yogurt, choc. pudding,

apple sauce, chips, taco with flour or corn tortilla, quesadilla,

apples, pears, tamale, peanut butter and jelly, pizza slice, etc.

Macho appetite, eh? Ok, culture here which sounds similar like can eat

anything with rice and beans and some carnita.

This is more like some of my nephews and nieces who do not want

anything to do with school meals. My sisters end up sending their

breakfast and lunch to school but Auntie here makes sure they are

given some type of a multi-vitamin/supplements since some of them

suffer from ADHD, ADD, Fetal-alcohol syndrome, & bipolar, etc.

It's whatever works as long as it does not interrupt with their

education.

We do what whatever works for our individuals as each one of them are

different. Good luck.

Irma

>

> my son's dad was the type that would have to eat 3 square meals a day

> and well guess what? my son is that way too..if he doesnt get his

> meals, he 'freaks out'. Im at my wits end with the eating situation

> at school. I ask them if he's eaten and they give the 'he ate'..then

> i ask them 'what?'...they say: 'yogurt'...now, a kid like mine doesnt

> just need yogurt for the 51/2 hrs he's at school, hence,

> the 'tantrums'. i have tried to find an alternative but it only

> lasts for a little while.

>

> The public, the teachers tend to judge you because they say your not

> doing a good job weening your child off of the stuff but it is

> difficult w our children.

[Guest guest]

so, why don't you pack your child's lunch everyday?

after i took one look at the school menu 3 + years ago, that's what i decided that i had to do for my son. once you're in the routine, it's easy. get 7 containers, every other night pack two lunches with leftovers from the past couple of nights so the food is rotated. you can toss in a banana or any other fresh fruit, there are some fruit cups that aren't bad. even if you do the gfcf diet, there are crackers & cookies and other snack type items that you can toss in the lunch box in case the actual lunch isn't a big hit.

the teachers/paras have been instructed to warm my son's lunch so he gets a hot meal just like all the other kids. he also gets morning and afternoon snacks. just request it at the next ard as a way to determine whether or not his behavior is effected by food intake.

there really isn't a reason for food to be an issue.

Subject: Re: Do you really want to give your kids Chicken McNuggets?To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 9:21 AM

my son's dad was the type that would have to eat 3 square meals a day and well guess what? my son is that way too..if he doesnt get his meals, he 'freaks out'. Im at my wits end with the eating situation at school. I ask them if he's eaten and they give the 'he ate'..then i ask them 'what?'...they say: 'yogurt'...now, a kid like mine doesnt just need yogurt for the 51/2 hrs he's at school, hence, the 'tantrums'. i have tried to find an alternative but it only lasts for a little while. The public, the teachers tend to judge you because they say your not doing a good job weening your child off of the stuff but it is difficult w our children. > > > this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and now > > he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's hard > > to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them off> of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.> > > It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible> culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my son's> case. > Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's, especially> because I had to actually avoid any play areas. > This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play> tunnels and ball pits. > So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken McNuggets> just staying

away.> I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me preventing> from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas. > Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what McD's> had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities> (sensory integration dysfunction) , slowly begin just cooking grill> chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate them> and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the next> intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my weakness> making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older age while> attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school staff of> team during these school years when we all had learn about autism> (topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food. > > There is a wonderful book out

which probably would of helped me out> when once upon a time my son "WAS" a picky eater. > > Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and Eating> Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple Grandin> (Foreword by).> > I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to confront any> challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a lot. This> is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter. > > Irma>

[Guest guest]

i dont have the $ to do it everyday for him but i have tried. also,

it's an issue when it comes to heating up the food...i swear we're

going to have another ARD soon and i dont even want to attend it

> >

> > > this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old and

> now

> > > he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but it's

> hard

> > > to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get them

off

> > of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

> >

> >

> > It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible

> > culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my

> son's

> > case.

> > Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's,

especially

> > because I had to actually avoid any play areas.

> > This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play

> > tunnels and ball pits.

> > So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken

> McNuggets

> > just staying away.

> > I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me

preventing

> > from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas.

> > Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what

McD's

> > had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities

> > (sensory integration dysfunction) , slowly begin just cooking

grill

> > chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate

them

> > and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the next

> > intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my

> weakness

> > making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older age

> while

> > attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school

staff

> of

> > team during these school years when we all had learn about autism

> > (topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food.

> >

> > There is a wonderful book out which probably would of helped me

out

> > when once upon a time my son " WAS " a picky eater.

> >

> > Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and

> Eating

> > Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple Grandin

> > (Foreword by).

> >

> > I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to

confront

> any

> > challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a lot.

> This

> > is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter.

> >

> > Irma

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I found stainless steel thermos at Target and my children's food

stays warm to hot until lunch.

> > >

> > > > this mcnugget thing has been a battle for me since 3yrs old

and

> > now

> > > > he's 7...i swear i try to get him off of those things but

it's

> > hard

> > > > to...What are some things that you guys have tried to get

them

> off

> > > of those nuggets? Id love some suggestions.

> > >

> > >

> > > It took some work when I had begun learning some of the possible

> > > culprits that were stirring some of the behavioral issues in my

> > son's

> > > case.

> > > Steps were just to try to work around on avoiding McD's,

> especially

> > > because I had to actually avoid any play areas.

> > > This was such a battle just trying to get him out of those play

> > > tunnels and ball pits.

> > > So this helped with the removal of my son eating the chicken

> > McNuggets

> > > just staying away.

> > > I still was not aware of what I know now, it was just me

> preventing

> > > from getting stress dealing with the battle of the play areas.

> > > Finally found some alternative play activities similar to what

> McD's

> > > had at home as I was learning about Sensory & Motor activities

> > > (sensory integration dysfunction) , slowly begin just cooking

> grill

> > > chicken into strips, he did not have a choice so slowly he ate

> them

> > > and enjoyed them along with veggies on the side which was the

next

> > > intro. I did have to be strong and not give in as this was my

> > weakness

> > > making sure to feed a problem eater and this was at an older

age

> > while

> > > attending middle school and thank goodness for a nice school

> staff

> > of

> > > team during these school years when we all had learn about

autism

> > > (topics)to where he will eat a huge variety of food.

> > >

> > > There is a wonderful book out which probably would of helped me

> out

> > > when once upon a time my son " WAS " a picky eater.

> > >

> > > Just Take a Bite: Easy, Effective Answers to Food Aversions and

> > Eating

> > > Challenges by Lori Ernsperger, Tania Stegen-Hanson, Temple

Grandin

> > > (Foreword by).

> > >

> > > I just had to make sure to put my foot down when ready to

> confront

> > any

> > > challenges where my son would not win as I use to cave in a

lot.

> > This

> > > is when I had then learn about ABA/VB, another chapter.

> > >

> > > Irma

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I found stainless steel thermos at Target and my children's food

> stays warm to hot until lunch.

>

Thank you for sharing this, nice to know for traveling purpose in our

case.

Irma

[Guest guest]

>

> i dont have the $ to do it everyday for him but i have tried. also,

> it's an issue when it comes to heating up the food...i swear we're

> going to have another ARD soon and i dont even want to attend it

Please do not give up on Faith, you have come along way to where you

are at. There are ways to cook up a storm economically as I have done

this when times are hard.

carne quisada, spaghetti, ground beef with macaroni or shells,

chicken, peanut butter & jelly sandwich, easy baked lasagna, beans,

quisadilla with some chicken or beef, tacos for sure of whatever

mixture, etc.

Snacks could be fruit cups, crackers, cookies, etc.

I still make this for my son who has been enjoying it but now the

ingredients have been modified to GF/CF/Corn-free/egg-free.

Have you tried purchasing with the Angel Food Ministry should you have

some extra funds to stretch here?

The bonus have some extra meats where some of this could be utilized

as a hamburger helper type meals, beans, etc.

Ok, when I head out to Target, will see about purchasing some of those

thermos for your kids lunch and take them out some time this month as

I plan on visiting my family.

Irma

[Guest guest]

Sorry guys meant to send this privately and forgot to change the email

address. Butterfingers.

Irma

[Guest guest]

I know it’s hard to attend ARDs when it just seems like

you’re ignored, not wanted, etc. – we’ve all been

there. Don’t let this stop you though. An ARD is about the

only time you get to give input on your child’s education unless you have

a good relationship with your school so go, bring ideas, and speak up for your

child. Each year usually brings new teachers and you never know when you’ll

get one that is willing to work behind the scenes with you. A few good

teachers is how we made it through some real rough elementary years.

Tonya

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

[mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of chanklita

Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:13 PM

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Subject: Re: Do you really want to give your

kids Chicken McNuggets?

i dont have the $ to do it everyday for him but

i have tried. also,

it's an issue when it comes to heating up the food...i swear we're

going to have another ARD soon and i dont even want to attend it

[Guest guest]

Tonya,

I am mentally not ready for another ARD...im not sure what to do....i

have depression and its causing me to be ill.

>

> I know it's hard to attend ARDs when it just seems like you're

ignored, not

> wanted, etc. - we've all been there. Don't let this stop you

though. An

> ARD is about the only time you get to give input on your child's

education

> unless you have a good relationship with your school so go, bring

ideas, and

> speak up for your child. Each year usually brings new teachers and

you

> never know when you'll get one that is willing to work behind the

scenes

> with you. A few good teachers is how we made it through some real

rough

> elementary years.

>

>

>

> Tonya

>

>

>

> From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of

chanklita

> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:13 PM

> To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> Subject: Re: Do you really want to give

your kids

> Chicken McNuggets?

>

>

>

> i dont have the $ to do it everyday for him but i have tried. also,

> it's an issue when it comes to heating up the food...i swear we're

> going to have another ARD soon and i dont even want to attend it

>