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Amy:

I'm sorry I haven't written until now but I wanted to welcome you as

well. If you have to be here I'm glad you found us. This is a great

group of people. We're friends, confidants, supportive, basically a

family. We have our spats, our debates, our disagreements but we're

still supportive of one another.

Now if you'll excuse me, Rubin, my son, has broken his arm while

skateboarding. He's in a splint but he's in a bit of pain so I need

to go out and get ibuprofen for him. All I have in the house are the

ones I use and those are prescription.

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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Amy...welcome! I think I missed your original message. I try to read them all,

but once I get behind, I've learned to just " wipe the slate clean and start

over. " That's my first piece of advice--that it's okay to do that if you need

to. Everyone here understands. My second piece is the one I remember most when

we joined just a couple months ago, someone wrote to me and said to remember

that the stories you hear on the group are usually the worst. There are people

who have been able to go into remission and are so busy living their lives that

you don't hear from them a lot. Remember that, hope is always a good thing. On

the flip side, there is so much to learn and this is a great place to ask

questions. The people here have become a part of our family in such a short

time. So, welcome to the family Amy!

Ellen...I'm so sorry to hear about Rubin. We will pray for a speedy recovery so

he can get back out there!

Jody

BTW Amy...my husband Mark is the one with Stills. He was perfectly healthy this

past Aug 10, then Aug 11th woke up and everything went downhill from there. He

spent a month in the hospital and was dx during that time. He just went back to

work part-time last week.

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Amy:

I'm sorry I haven't written until now but I wanted to welcome you as

well. If you have to be here I'm glad you found us. This is a great

group of people. We're friends, confidants, supportive, basically a

family. We have our spats, our debates, our disagreements but we're

still supportive of one another.

Now if you'll excuse me, Rubin, my son, has broken his arm while

skateboarding. He's in a splint but he's in a bit of pain so I need

to go out and get ibuprofen for him. All I have in the house are the

ones I use and those are prescription.

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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  • 10 months later...

Hello, everyone. We are new to this group although not new to Yahoo groups in

general. Been members/owners of lists for long before Yahoo took it over. :-)

Anyone else from Arkansas here? We have had cows most of our lives and then got

goats, too, in 1980 so we've been using/drinking raw goat and cow milk for many

decades. Our grandkids are growing up on it now. We make cheese and butter with

our milk, too. And the BEST homemade ice cream. :-) We originally came from a

family ranch in NW Oklahoma, but have been homesteading since we moved to

Arkansas in 1980. For almost 20 years we *were* breeding/showing reg. dairy

goats until the scrapie program monster raised it's ugly head in the late 1990's

(we saw the writing on the wall with that thing), and we sent almost every doe

we had out of the country in export sales - without their papers. Now with the

threat of the NAIS upon us, we are glad we did that when we did. We only have a

handful of goats left for

brush control and milk for our family. No more registering, no more showing, no

more buying expensive goats from other breeders, etc.

Any-hoo, we are doing what we can to hold on to the goats we have left - helped

to form the Arkansas Animal Producer's Assoc. to fight to stop mandatory NAIS in

our state. We have a bill we hope to get passed in January called the Freedom to

Farm Act that will put the whoa on NAIS (and any other animal id type thing they

might come up with in the future) in Arkansas - hopefully getting that passed

into law will allow us to keep our goats and cows that we have left. If we

cannot get the NAIS stopped in our state (and our nation), we will very

regretfully have to get rid of the rest of our goats and cows as we will not

register our property as premises with the NAIS. It would be very strange not

having all the raw milk we want/need, but we can't risk our property since we

have three families that live on it.

We have people asking to get raw milk from us all the time and we *do* have a

state law that says we can sell 100 gallons a month from the home without being

labled " commercial " and coming under their laws (we've had that law about 20

years now and no one getting sick from raw milk that I know about). That amounts

to about 3 gallons a day - can't make much money selling just 3 gallons a day

but it is good that people at least can get the raw milk like that if they can

find someone that still has the goats/cows to milk. Harder to find the cow milk

as most of them are being milked in commercial cow dairies, not in backyards so

much anymore. And the little family cow dairies are systematically being driven

out of business so they are disappearing in our state like crazy.

We have one that is fairly close to us (three miles away, but we all him

" neighbor " ). He's so close to going out of business, it's scarey. And he just

had to have knee replacements in both knees so he's got three lady relatives

doing his milking for him until he can get back on his feet again. He said if

just one batch of milk gets rejected for some reason, he'll be out of the dairy

business. If he could just sell his raw milk to local people who are constantly

asking for it, he'd be able to stay in business and even make a nice profit. But

he's not allowed to do that - he gets told what he will and will not get for his

milk (last I heard it was about $12 for a hundredweight) *and* he gets to pay

for the milk truck to come pick up his milk. He says that when his dad was

running the dairy back in the 50's and 60's and 70's, he was selling raw milk to

anyone who wanted it - no one got sick and the father made a good living,

raising all his kids on that

small dairy. The son has raised his kids on that dairy, too, but the wife had

to go get a job to keep the bills paid. Now even that isn't enough. It's so sad

to see someone you've known for decades not being able to just do what he's good

at doing and being able to live at it all just because some know-it-all in an

office somewhere says he can't sell his raw milk to people anymore. He and his

family have been drinking their own raw milk for generations and never got sick

from it. Seems safe enough to me. :-) Same for us - we've been using raw milk

literally for generations.

My father-in-law bought a Holstein cow at the local sale barn - she was being

culled due to advanced age. He would go out to the pasture, plop down a pan of

feed and she would stand there eating while he milked her. No stanchion, etc.

Just out in the open. She gave so much milk, we had a hard time doing things

with it - making ice cream, feeding pigs, etc. She was about 20 years old when

my father-in-law finally sold her at that same sale barn and he got more for her

than what he'd paid for her ten years earlier! Now THAT was a good family milk

cow. LOL!

Anita in Arkansas

http://arkansasanimalproducers.8k.com

http://libertymtnranch.faithweb.com

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Hi Olivia-

I have adrenal insufficiency from a pituitary condition myself. I'm

on Prednisone daily and also take Cortef during those days when my

adrenals cannot keep up with the physical or mental stress (I was

taking them daily during the holidays!). I hope your daughter's Dr.

has given you something to give her in emergencies, ie. a minor car

crash, surgery (minor surgery almost killed me) or even the stomach

flu can send someone with low adrenal function into crisis and can

potentially be fatal. My pituitary is virtually dead so I also have

thyroid problems (among the long list of other hormone problems). I

am on Synthroid for the thyroid disorder and was also on Armor though

didn't see any difference. Basically it is a constant balancing act

between the hormones. Your daughter should be tested regularly and

hormone medications adjusted as needed. How has she tested on her

thyroid tests? I had a tough time finding a good endo and am actually

on my 6th in 5 yrs. I think the best for your daughter would be an

endo who specializes in pituitary disorders because they understand

the whole picture of how all the hormones work together. I don't know

where you are located, but I have a great pituitary endocrinologist

in Los Angeles who I traveled 5 hrs to see and would see regularly if

he weren't so far (Dr. Friedman). He also prescribes androgens for

females which a lot of Drs. don't feel comfortable doing. You can

also go to www.pituitary.org and search their Dr. listings if he is

too far from you.

Elaine & Sierra (5, Rett Syndrome)

>

> Hi, I'm very glad to be a part of this group, many thanks for

having me!

>

> Our 8 year old daughter wasn't actually diagnosed with autism, but

> with developmental delay (at age 4), although physically, she has

many

> of the same issues (gut problems, mainly). We've been doing

> biomedical intervention for a while now, and have seen a lot of

> progress, primarily in her learning. Recently we decided to take

her

> to see a pediatric endocrinologist as she was showing signs of

> precocious puberty. She's been diagnosed with Congenital Adrenal

> Hyperplasia - which is supposedly a genetic disorder in which the

> adrenals don't produce enough cortisol, leading to some serious

> imbalances in androgens, testosterone,etc.

>

> I wonder if any of you have dealt with this, or something similar.

> I've read up on natural hormones and it seems that giving her

cortisol

> will be a necessity, possibly for life. My concern is that her

> thyroid will need attention as well, and conventional doctors don't

> seem to be as aware of thyroid problems as more " alternative " ones.

> It gets a bit more sticky when dealing with a prepubescent child!

>

> I also have one more question, if you wouldn't mind, and this is

> actually for a friend in South America who has a girl with autism

with

> precocious puberty. Their doctor is recommending decapeptyl. Has

> anyone used this? From what I can see on the web, it has some

serious

> side effects. I wonder if anyone has some input on the subject.

>

> Thank you so much in advance and I hope to get to know you all a bit

> better!

>

> Take care, Olivia

>

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