Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Wow, Dina, that is really powerful. My nephew also deals with Scrupe that manifests itself in scary, blasphemous thougts, and won't take meds. I'm going to tell my sister to get the book for him. Unlike Chris's , my nephew has realized and sometimes convinced himself the thoughts are his OCD, but he still struggles. He often struggles with the thought that he somehow, accidentally, sold his soul to the devil, and will go to hell because of it. It must be exhausting to either battle or tolerate thoughts like that all of the time. Our poor kids. My sister tried to get him in to see the therapist our son is seeing, but they won't take him because we are related. That's a tough one, because there are so few here, who really know how to treat OCD. Anyway, thanks for sharing, Dina. BJ > > Hi Chris. Have you read the book " Brain Lock " by Schwartz? > I'm currently reading it and am finding it really useful as the 4 > steps are already things my daughter does when having and " OCD > moment. " Anyway, I was reading pg. 98 last night and thought of you: > > " Although Carla is devoutly religious, in her darkest moments she had > questioned whether there was an Almighty power capable of forgiving > her for having these awful thoughts. Now, she understands, " God loves > me. " She has Revalued her life (step 4). No longer wallowing in her > guilt and anger, she is " fired up, " determined to do something mre > meaningful than just working to pay her bills. She says, " I want my > life to make a difference. I want to help others. Having OCD has > pushed me to work a little harder. " > > And it goes on later, > > " God can certainly tell the difference between what is in your heart > and is real and what is just a false message coming from you brain. > It is important never to forget that point. Cognitive-biobehavioral > self-treatment presents a real opportunity to actively reaffirm your > faith in God's ability to know who you really are. It is only when you > allow yourself to take the blasphemous OCD thoughts at face value--and > to mistrust your deepest inner feelings about God's capacity to tell > what's real and what's not--that you develop a sense of self-loathing. > Like all battles worth winning, in the end it's a test of faith. You > must continually remind yourself, " This is not a blasphemous thought. > This is an OCD symptom. I don't believe it, and it is not a > reflection of what I feel in my heart. " > > Just thought I'd share that with you. It might be worth a read > through for you. > > Dina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Thank you Dina. I had come read it. (Of course he had no comment, sigh) I told him to keep it in mind, think about it. I haven't read the book, but did get it from the library and look through it but gave it to (last year I guess) and told him to read it. Now I know he didn't read the entire thing either, said he read about what he found on scrupulosity. I think with - and note " think " as I have to observe, listen, guess a lot - that he sometimes feels that what he is thinking is really " what's in his heart " and he hates that. He's angry too after all this time, so may sort of " mean it " when he has some thought, I'm guessing. SIGH! Like a viscious circle! He'll agree OCD makes his thoughts worse, continuous, but doesn't see all the thoughts as " OCD " or caused by OCD. Again, that's what I think he feels from the little discussion we've had at times. > > Hi Chris. Have you read the book " Brain Lock " by Schwartz? > I'm currently reading it and am finding it really useful as the 4 > steps are already things my daughter does when having and " OCD > moment. " Anyway, I was reading pg. 98 last night and thought of you: > > " Although Carla is devoutly religious, in her darkest moments she Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Thank you Dina. I had come read it. (Of course he had no comment, sigh) I told him to keep it in mind, think about it. I haven't read the book, but did get it from the library and look through it but gave it to (last year I guess) and told him to read it. Now I know he didn't read the entire thing either, said he read about what he found on scrupulosity. I think with - and note " think " as I have to observe, listen, guess a lot - that he sometimes feels that what he is thinking is really " what's in his heart " and he hates that. He's angry too after all this time, so may sort of " mean it " when he has some thought, I'm guessing. SIGH! Like a viscious circle! He'll agree OCD makes his thoughts worse, continuous, but doesn't see all the thoughts as " OCD " or caused by OCD. Again, that's what I think he feels from the little discussion we've had at times. > > Hi Chris. Have you read the book " Brain Lock " by Schwartz? > I'm currently reading it and am finding it really useful as the 4 > steps are already things my daughter does when having and " OCD > moment. " Anyway, I was reading pg. 98 last night and thought of you: > > " Although Carla is devoutly religious, in her darkest moments she Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 That actually makes sense. It's like he doesn't have the " insight " yet that it's really OCD. The doubting disease! Sigh. Anyway, that excerpt was from the last step in the book, so obviously there are other things to do to work up to that insight. Dina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 That actually makes sense. It's like he doesn't have the " insight " yet that it's really OCD. The doubting disease! Sigh. Anyway, that excerpt was from the last step in the book, so obviously there are other things to do to work up to that insight. Dina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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