Re: How do you convince doctors to prescribe?

[Guest guest]

Hi........

This is going to sound strange, but if you have all your diagnosis

that you think you are going to get, and meds are iffy....

Have you heard of energy healing? I'm a pranic healer. Ancient

Chinese secret kind of thing.. but not so secret anymore. If you

want to learn more, you can actually take a class and learn how to do

it yourself if you live near a pranic healing clinic. We are still

trying to figure my son out. As soon as we get a full diagnosis, I'm

going to be working on him. Until then, I just do my best to keep

his energy clean. www.yourhandscanhealyou.com if you are interested

in learning more. I basically pulled myself out of an early

menopause to have my daughter. It does work.

>

> We are seeing the only " friendly " doctor in the Toronto area and

he's

> just ordered a new set of testing so we can get a clearer picture.

He

> prescribed 5-days of vancomycin a few months ago and my son had

> formed stools within 3 days. However, with only 5 days treatment

the

> improvement quickly went away. The Dr. didn't want to prescribe a

> longer period because he thinks the bugs will adjust and become

> tolerant of it. We've tried natural programs for the past year and

> just can't break through.

>

> I have a heavy duty gut kid that still, after all our natural

> treatments, presses on objects to relieve the pain in his gut.

We've

> ruled out yeast (Great Plains testing) but when he presses his

> stomach he still gets beet red ears and his face gets very hot. He

> poops 3-5 times/day and they aren't very formed. Lots of undigested

> food and large amount. He eats like a pig (GF/CF/low sugar) but

still

> only weighs 28 lbs at 4 1/2 yrs old.

>

> We've were scoped by a Gastro in January and have mild inflammation

> in the bowel. The gastro put him on 4 months of sulfasalazine to

help

> heal the inflammation. He's just come off that because I told her

> we're just treating the symptom, not the underlying cause. I

broached

> the topic of anti-infection therapy with anti-viral & fungal at

once

> but she's nervous. She prescribed Flagyl only but I haven't filled

> the prescription because I'm afraid that without the fungal

> prescription I'll be setting him up for failure. She says there are

> many studies that show great improvement with just Flagyl in IBS

> sufferers. She didn't want to read Stan's anti-infection document

so

> I took the prescription and left.

>

> When all the test results come in I'll meet with the friendly Dr.

> again and want to do a 5 month trial on Valtrex and an anti-fungal.

> My question is, how have others convinced their doctors to

prescribe?

>

[Guest guest]

You can do cranial sacral using pranic healing very easily.

I've done it to my son in the past before we got on the metabolic

trail. It did make a difference.

Also........ there is a book called SuperBrainy Yoga which is part of

the pranic healing series of books, and there is an exercise, very

easy to do, that will clear up those chakras that cranial sacral

clears up. There have been several studies done using SuperBrain

Yoga with ASD kids.

> > >

> > > We are seeing the only " friendly " doctor in the Toronto area

and

> > he's

> > > just ordered a new set of testing so we can get a clearer

> picture.

> > He

> > > prescribed 5-days of vancomycin a few months ago and my son had

> > > formed stools within 3 days. However, with only 5 days

treatment

> > the

> > > improvement quickly went away. The Dr. didn't want to prescribe

a

> > > longer period because he thinks the bugs will adjust and become

> > > tolerant of it. We've tried natural programs for the past year

> and

> > > just can't break through.

> > >

> > > I have a heavy duty gut kid that still, after all our natural

> > > treatments, presses on objects to relieve the pain in his gut.

> > We've

> > > ruled out yeast (Great Plains testing) but when he presses his

> > > stomach he still gets beet red ears and his face gets very hot.

> He

> > > poops 3-5 times/day and they aren't very formed. Lots of

> undigested

> > > food and large amount. He eats like a pig (GF/CF/low sugar) but

> > still

> > > only weighs 28 lbs at 4 1/2 yrs old.

> > >

> > > We've were scoped by a Gastro in January and have mild

> inflammation

> > > in the bowel. The gastro put him on 4 months of sulfasalazine

to

> > help

> > > heal the inflammation. He's just come off that because I told

her

> > > we're just treating the symptom, not the underlying cause. I

> > broached

> > > the topic of anti-infection therapy with anti-viral & fungal at

> > once

> > > but she's nervous. She prescribed Flagyl only but I haven't

> filled

> > > the prescription because I'm afraid that without the fungal

> > > prescription I'll be setting him up for failure. She says there

> are

> > > many studies that show great improvement with just Flagyl in

IBS

> > > sufferers. She didn't want to read Stan's anti-infection

document

> > so

> > > I took the prescription and left.

> > >

> > > When all the test results come in I'll meet with the friendly

Dr.

> > > again and want to do a 5 month trial on Valtrex and an anti-

> fungal.

> > > My question is, how have others convinced their doctors to

> > prescribe?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Did he have labs to back up the vanco? If not, perhaps that's the

route to get some stool testing to prove he has a problem.

honestly, if you are considering a vancomycin route, and I wouldn't

blame you after what you saw, I would want a doc who is gonna know

what he/she's doing. Vancomycin *can* cause kidney problems, and big

ones, so if a protocol this aggressive would help your son then it

might be worth it to find a doc who can keep a close eye and make sure

you get the right protocol and test the kidneys while doing it to

ensure no problems are developing. I don't know what doses start

causing problems and/or if the protocol you would need would be far

below that threshold, just wanna toss it out there FYI.

I have heard of Dr. Bradstreet, who is in Arizona & FL, doing a very

similar protocol with vancomycin, antifungals and probiotics, but the

only time I've heard of (and I'm by no means an expert) is with

culture-confirmed clostridium difficile in the gut. Any chance your

doc might be willing to contact him for assistance? These docs can be

really helpful to those who reach out, though I don't know how

Bradstreet may/may not respond, I don't know the man at all.

HTH,

Debi

[Guest guest]

From what I have heard from doctors: The Western Blot is usually considered the best test. Some have used the C6 peptide test with good results. Most will not test positive unless they have killed the lyme for a month or two or three. If it has been less than a couple of months since taking Amoxicillin or zithromax, then this may help bring about a positive test. Igenex is considered the best lab, but you can try another lab first, and then use Igenex if they other lab comes back negative. I say this because Igenex does not accept insurance, so you have to bill them yourself, and reimbursement will vary, and might not be much.

Heidi N

Same thing happened for us. Our DAN dr. recommended metranidazole(flagyl) for 10 day, then when I retured some positive updates he recommend to continue it30 days more,I think same, my son also has a bacterial problem but it's notclostrodia, already tested negative.Before , we noticed that amoxicillin and zithromax also reduced autismeffects, but we were aware of antibiotics since long time . I will talk this subject with dr. at next at appointment in 3 weeksbut , I'm really curious, which lab is best for lyme tests? MugeLooking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

Yes, we do have stool testing, but I've just sent off a new sample to

Doctors Data for a full analysis. The past 2 tests have shown

improvement in inflammation and secretory IgA since 2005 but it's

still not gone. The bacterial culture showed imbalance in Bacillus

spp and dysbiotic with Klebsiella pneumonia. I'm hoping to get the

new results within 2 weeks. Yeast pops up every once in a while and I

tackle it with diet but it's not a big issue.

You make a good point about having my Dr. contact Dr. Bradstreet. If

he's using Vancomycin in his program it may give my Dr. more

confidence that this is a route that is feasible. I'm wondering if

Flagyl will have the same result as Vancomycin - because the Gastro

Dr. gave my son a prescription for that last week. I haven't started

him on it though because she didn't prescribe the anti-fungal. Do you

think I should start on Flagyl and do some natural anti-fungal until

the tests come back?

>

> Did he have labs to back up the vanco? If not, perhaps that's the

> route to get some stool testing to prove he has a problem.

>

> honestly, if you are considering a vancomycin route, and I wouldn't

> blame you after what you saw, I would want a doc who is gonna know

> what he/she's doing. Vancomycin *can* cause kidney problems, and big

> ones, so if a protocol this aggressive would help your son then it

> might be worth it to find a doc who can keep a close eye and make

sure

> you get the right protocol and test the kidneys while doing it to

> ensure no problems are developing. I don't know what doses start

> causing problems and/or if the protocol you would need would be far

> below that threshold, just wanna toss it out there FYI.

>

> I have heard of Dr. Bradstreet, who is in Arizona & FL, doing a very

> similar protocol with vancomycin, antifungals and probiotics, but

the

> only time I've heard of (and I'm by no means an expert) is with

> culture-confirmed clostridium difficile in the gut. Any chance your

> doc might be willing to contact him for assistance? These docs can

be

> really helpful to those who reach out, though I don't know how

> Bradstreet may/may not respond, I don't know the man at all.

>

> HTH,

> Debi

>

[Guest guest]

It doesn't sound strange to me.......

www.UnitedGlobalNetwork.com has info on the AIM program EM2 energy and

is awesome. request info in particular to autism, and have a cd.

We are doing that as a family. and my daughter has had indian healing,

and the whole family had Dr Pearl's 'The Reconnection' healing.

I Love, Love, Love it. I love exploring nature and healing.

I am personally sick of the drug pushers. I am into much alternatives.

We also use the 'Rife' machine aka micro frequency generator, when I

set it for intestinal issues and have my daughter sit there, she

immediately starts babbling and trying to talk. It is all cool, I am

glad you mentioned energy healing. Thank you! Cheers! ~

" mvpoppins " wrote:

>

> Hi........

> This is going to sound strange, but if you have all your diagnosis

> that you think you are going to get, and meds are iffy....

> Have you heard of energy healing? I'm a pranic healer. Ancient

> Chinese secret kind of thing.. but not so secret anymore. If you

> want to learn more, you can actually take a class and learn how to

do

> it yourself if you live near a pranic healing clinic. We are still

> trying to figure my son out. As soon as we get a full diagnosis,

I'm

> going to be working on him. Until then, I just do my best to keep

> his energy clean. www.yourhandscanhealyou.com if you are

interested

> in learning more. I basically pulled myself out of an early

> menopause to have my daughter. It does work.

>

>

>

> >

> > We are seeing the only " friendly " doctor in the Toronto area and

> he's

> > just ordered a new set of testing so we can get a clearer

picture.

> He

> > prescribed 5-days of vancomycin a few months ago and my son had

> > formed stools within 3 days. However, with only 5 days treatment

> the

> > improvement quickly went away. The Dr. didn't want to prescribe a

> > longer period because he thinks the bugs will adjust and become

> > tolerant of it. We've tried natural programs for the past year

and

> > just can't break through.

> >

> > I have a heavy duty gut kid that still, after all our natural

> > treatments, presses on objects to relieve the pain in his gut.

> We've

> > ruled out yeast (Great Plains testing) but when he presses his

> > stomach he still gets beet red ears and his face gets very hot.

He

> > poops 3-5 times/day and they aren't very formed. Lots of

undigested

> > food and large amount. He eats like a pig (GF/CF/low sugar) but

> still

> > only weighs 28 lbs at 4 1/2 yrs old.

> >

> > We've were scoped by a Gastro in January and have mild

inflammation

> > in the bowel. The gastro put him on 4 months of sulfasalazine to

> help

> > heal the inflammation. He's just come off that because I told her

> > we're just treating the symptom, not the underlying cause. I

> broached

> > the topic of anti-infection therapy with anti-viral & fungal at

> once

> > but she's nervous. She prescribed Flagyl only but I haven't

filled

> > the prescription because I'm afraid that without the fungal

> > prescription I'll be setting him up for failure. She says there

are

> > many studies that show great improvement with just Flagyl in IBS

> > sufferers. She didn't want to read Stan's anti-infection document

> so

> > I took the prescription and left.

> >

> > When all the test results come in I'll meet with the friendly Dr.

> > again and want to do a 5 month trial on Valtrex and an anti-

fungal.

> > My question is, how have others convinced their doctors to

> prescribe?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter was on Flagyl for clostrodium. We did not know she had until we got her testing back. After being on it for 2 of the 4 weeks she began saying words and responding more to us. It made a huge difference in her. She is still improving with the help of a month of diflucan and now nystatin for maintenance. She is 3 years old and can read words with no pictures and is a whiz at the computer now.

Hope this helps

April